22:59:08 <echevemaster> #startmeeting Ambassadors Latam meeting 22:59:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat May 14 22:59:08 2016 UTC. The chair is echevemaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:59:08 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:59:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'ambassadors_latam_meeting' 22:59:16 <echevemaster> #topic Roll Call 22:59:26 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster 22:59:28 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com> 22:59:34 <itamarjp> .fas itamarjp 22:59:34 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br> 22:59:44 * echevemaster Venezuela, Colombia 22:59:58 * itamarjp Brazil-free-of-dil-má. 23:01:19 <echevemaster> hehehe 23:01:37 <echevemaster> jmlaya: Roll Call 23:02:01 <echevemaster> first use .fas jmlaya 23:02:10 <jmlaya> .fas jmlaya 23:02:11 <zodbot> jmlaya: jmlaya 'Jose Laya' <jmlaya@gmail.com> 23:02:18 <echevemaster> and after that, /me and your country. 23:02:20 <srkraken> .fas srkraken 23:02:21 <zodbot> srkraken: srkraken 'Efren Antonio Robledo Moreno' <efren.a.rm@gmail.com> 23:02:31 <jmlaya> thanks /me Venezuela, Colombia 23:02:32 * srkraken from Mexico 23:02:39 * jmlaya Venezuela, Colombia 23:03:00 <echevemaster> waiting for more people to start 23:03:01 <dalmine> ./fas villadalmine 23:03:11 <dalmine> .fas villadalmine 23:03:12 <zodbot> dalmine: villadalmine 'Rino Rondan' <villadalmine@gmail.com> 23:03:25 <echevemaster> dalmine: it is not a sh command, hehehe 23:03:37 * dalmine Argentina, Chile 23:03:39 <dalmine> jajaaj 23:04:55 * srkraken buenas tardes 23:05:10 <echevemaster> I'm still here? 23:05:48 <athos> hello :) 23:05:53 <athos> .fas ribeiro 23:05:54 <zodbot> athos: everlin 'Everlin Ribeiro' <everlin.ribeiro@hotmail.com> - davydvinicius 'Davyd Vinicius Gonçalves Ribeiro' <davyd.vinicius@r7.com> - sanmendes16 'Sander Mendes' <sandermribeiro@yahoo.com.br> - robsonrsilva 'Robson Ribeiro' <robsont36@gmail.com> - vilmar 'Vilmar Pereira Ribeiro Filho' <vilmar109@gmail.com> - raulhigino 'Raul Higino Ribeiro Silva' <raulhigino@hotmail.com.br> - crpcris1 'Cristian Ribeiro Paines' (6 more messages) 23:06:00 <echevemaster> ok, who wants a chair? 23:07:54 <echevemaster> I saw a topic in the list, anyone remember? 23:08:40 <itamarjp> about new budget ? 23:08:48 <echevemaster> yeah. 23:09:00 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy 23:09:02 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com> 23:10:03 <echevemaster> potty I summon you 23:10:21 <athos> .fas athoscribeiro 23:10:22 <zodbot> athos: ribeiro 'Athos Ribeiro' <athoscribeiro@gmail.com> 23:10:29 <athos> better :) 23:10:46 <echevemaster> athos: are you new on the team? 23:11:12 <echevemaster> #topic Funding request for Chino Soliard (Asoliard) to assist AndSec 23:11:23 <echevemaster> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/348 23:12:10 <echevemaster> I saw on the Telegran Chanell, chino won't be able to join us today 23:12:28 <itamarjp> echevemaster, athos is a packager from Brazil. 23:12:33 <echevemaster> so, please read the ticket and give us your comments. 23:12:45 <echevemaster> welcome aboard athos. 23:12:50 <echevemaster> :thumbsup 23:12:59 <dalmine> athos: :) 23:13:16 <dalmine> i talked with hi 23:13:18 <dalmine> about 5min 23:13:22 <dalmine> internet is not working 23:13:26 <wolnei> .fas wolnei 23:13:27 <zodbot> wolnei: wolnei 'Wolnei Cândido Tomazelli Junior' <e@wolnei.com.br> 23:13:31 <dalmine> or not very well 23:13:42 <echevemaster> yeah, I saw their message dalmine 23:13:56 <dalmine> but please vote it, he need it :/ 23:13:59 <echevemaster> please, read the ticket. 23:14:30 <dalmine> ok i read :) 23:15:48 <echevemaster> after this ticket we'll talk about our budget. 23:16:01 <dalmine> i have another 333 :( 23:16:41 <echevemaster> ok dalmine 23:17:15 <echevemaster> anyone have comments about the ticket? 23:18:25 <echevemaster> USD $149, sounds reasonable. 23:18:32 <echevemaster> from me +1 23:19:22 <dalmine> +1 23:19:26 <srkraken> +1 23:19:27 <echevemaster> dalmine: jmlaya x3mboy athos srkraken ? 23:19:34 <x3mboy> +1 23:19:35 <itamarjp> +1 23:19:41 <wolnei> +1 23:19:48 <athos> +1 23:19:52 <jmlaya> +1 23:20:06 <echevemaster> #agreed ticket 348 23:20:13 <echevemaster> ok next ticket? 23:20:14 <athos> Question, shouldn't he describe what he will be doing in the event? 23:20:58 <itamarjp> another question, who is the guy that are asking for $ and it's not attending this meeting ? 23:21:02 <echevemaster> he described => As you can see on the event's page [0], Fedora Project is a supporting community of the event, and we want to put a stand, and give some flashtalks. (SELinux in Fedora, Security Labs spin, and more if it's possible) 23:21:36 <chinosoliard> hi 23:21:48 <yosef7> .fas josereyesjdi 23:21:51 <zodbot> yosef7: josereyesjdi 'Jose Reyes' <josereyes.jdi@gmail.com> 23:21:55 <chinosoliard> bad conection 23:22:00 <echevemaster> ok chinosoliard go ahead, athos is asking about what you will do at the event 23:22:03 <chinosoliard> .fas chinosoliard 23:22:03 <zodbot> chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' <a.soliard@gmail.com> 23:22:09 <echevemaster> so, explain us, please. 23:22:43 <chinosoliard> right 23:22:47 <echevemaster> I'm seeing your description, but may better that you explain us. 23:23:04 <echevemaster> if you want in Spanish 23:23:13 <chinosoliard> Ok 23:23:30 <chinosoliard> AndSec es una conferencia bastante linda, ésta es la 4ta vez que se realiza 23:23:53 <dalmine> itamarjp: you know him 23:24:17 <echevemaster> no worries dalmine itamarjp sometimes don't remember me (just kidding) 23:24:44 <chinosoliard> hasta hace unos días, rino no sabía si podía asistir, pero el organizador puso a Fedora Project como comunidad colaboradora 23:25:01 <williamjmorenor> .fas williamjmorenor 23:25:02 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com> 23:25:07 <williamjmorenor> Hola 23:25:17 <echevemaster> ok, chinosoliard thanks, already approved. but we wanted a better explanation. 23:25:26 * srkraken Hola williamjmorenor 23:25:40 <chinosoliard> Desgraciadamente no llegué a presentar nada en el CFP, pero tampoco soy un experto en seguridad informática, así que vamos a dar charlas sobre SELinux, Security Labs, y otras cosas si se da. 23:25:57 <echevemaster> williamjmorenor: please contact to jmlaya in private, he wants help you with the new blog 23:26:03 <chinosoliard> Tenemos la posibilidad de poner stand, que suma mucho en un evento de seguridad 23:26:26 <echevemaster> jmlaya: /query chinosoliard 23:26:30 <dalmine> vamos a dar un taller, yo me vengo de chile y me pago todo el costo 23:26:31 <williamjmorenor> Copiado echevemaster 23:26:32 <echevemaster> wrong 23:26:34 <chinosoliard> Creo que SELinux es algo que Fedora impulsa mucho, so, que mejor que insistir por ese lado 23:26:37 <echevemaster> jmlaya: /query williamjmorenor 23:27:00 <dalmine> asi tenemos stand y damos un taller y nos conocen ya que nos vienen buscando para que estemos 23:27:02 <echevemaster> thanks dalmine :) 23:27:04 * chinosoliard está contento porque encontró el lugar justo para que el celular conecte bien 23:27:04 <jmlaya> thanks echevemaster 23:27:12 <echevemaster> dalmine: what's your tickt? 23:27:46 <chinosoliard> echevemaster, estoy viendo si consigo un hotel más cercano, que tiene el mismo precio, aparentemente 23:27:58 <dalmine> 333 23:27:58 <i90rr> hola! 23:28:08 <dalmine> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/333 23:28:13 <echevemaster> ok chinosoliard USD 149, right 23:29:01 <echevemaster> #topic Funding Request for FISL Buenos Aires - Porto Alegre 23:29:10 <echevemaster> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/333 23:29:38 <echevemaster> this one was discussed before, but dalmine is asking a extra sponsoring 23:30:20 <echevemaster> he needs USD 100 extra, because its travel is not by bus anymore. 23:30:51 <echevemaster> so, read the ticket and vote. 23:31:09 <itamarjp> I need an extra too , because I would like to change my flight to first class 23:31:32 <dalmine> yes, finally i used another method 23:31:44 <dalmine> ohh you are awesome come with me! 23:31:57 <dalmine> i have an extra place 23:32:40 <echevemaster> itamar: stop sarcasm, if you disagree, please -1 23:32:49 <x3mboy> +1 23:33:40 <dalmine> yes please do real comment it is to difficutl read sarcasm in aother language 23:33:44 <athos> Well, itamarjp and some other guys received me very well when I looked for some Fedora people asking for help last year during FISL 23:34:25 <itamarjp> -1 tickets for fisl already voted, 23:34:32 <dalmine> i just only to add, if you another people need found cancel all my found in the ticket and give 100% found that you give me to itamarjp 23:34:44 <dalmine> i prefer money to new people like itamarjp 23:35:01 <dalmine> friend of him i said 23:35:09 <dalmine> we need to s ponsor new people 23:35:15 <dalmine> i have sponsored several ti me 23:35:39 <dalmine> please i want to cancel my ticket and give to people that itamarjp have 23:35:58 <echevemaster> ok, if you want cancel your travel, who do you prefer give your own opoortunity? 23:36:12 <williamjmorenor> ??? 23:36:12 <dalmine> no i paid it from myself 23:36:22 <dalmine> fisl17 and adnsec with itamar 23:36:35 <dalmine> fisl17 with you guys 23:36:40 <dalmine> andsec with ch ino 23:36:46 <potty> hola 23:36:51 <dalmine> i prefer use money for new people 23:36:58 <dalmine> thats all. no more to said 23:37:06 <williamjmorenor> Eso es bueno 23:37:08 <potty> hello people sorry for being late 23:37:14 <echevemaster> ok, from me +1 23:37:16 <potty> was sleeping my baby 23:37:29 <echevemaster> potty: thanks for attend bro, next ticket is yours 23:37:34 <williamjmorenor> potty ++ 23:37:40 <echevemaster> please vote the ticket for dalmine 23:37:41 <potty> :) 23:37:55 <williamjmorenor> I am +1 23:37:57 <potty> why is not using bus? 23:38:11 <potty> remember we are short on budget 23:38:26 <dalmine> i do not want anymore 23:38:35 <dalmine> please delete ticket and use it for new peopel from brazil 23:38:39 <williamjmorenor> So I am -1 23:38:48 <williamjmorenor> :) 23:38:48 <potty> sure dalmine ? 23:38:50 <dalmine> im in chile 23:39:03 <potty> that is very generous movement 23:39:05 <dalmine> chile . bs .as colonia - montevideo porto alegre 23:39:10 <potty> -1 then 23:39:18 <dalmine> so i wanted only montevideo porto alegre 23:39:21 <dalmine> but forget all 23:39:27 <dalmine> i was sponsored several time 23:39:35 <dalmine> and i said thanks!! 23:39:42 <chinosoliard> I'm really confused 23:39:46 <dalmine> so it is time to give opportunity to new people 23:39:54 <echevemaster> ok people, one thing, these kinds of issues, causes conflict. 23:40:11 <potty> to make this clear: dalmine is declining his ticket to make new brazilians contributors able to participate 23:40:17 <potty> so this ticket is -1 23:40:19 <dalmine> please use it to sponsor new people thats all 23:40:30 <dalmine> yes potty that is 23:40:34 <x3mboy> Ok, being that said, -1 23:40:38 <dalmine> -1 23:40:52 <echevemaster> ok. got it. 23:40:55 <potty> :) 23:41:06 <yosef7> respect dalmine 23:41:06 <echevemaster> I will be neutral with this one. 23:41:08 <chinosoliard> as I understand, dalmine is not asking for a full airplane travel... 23:41:33 <echevemaster> yes. chinosoliard but if is his decision, go ahead. 23:42:19 <dalmine> guys declined ticket use our budget for other ticket thats all 23:42:24 <echevemaster> these kind of issues causes conflicts, and a many times, this cause that the contributor goes away 23:42:37 <echevemaster> but for now, we will respect his decision 23:42:39 <echevemaster> next toic 23:42:42 <chinosoliard> Personally, I justified the ticket, but well... dalmine decide 23:42:48 <echevemaster> #topic Latam Budget 23:42:55 <potty> thank you echevemaster 23:43:00 <potty> chair me please 23:43:10 <potty> i'm an old man tired of being standed-up 23:43:24 <echevemaster> no please, be standing 23:43:36 <echevemaster> #chair potty 23:43:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: echevemaster potty 23:43:37 <potty> :( ok 23:43:42 <potty> thank you echevemaster 23:43:59 <potty> Council is in the process of approving budget. 23:44:34 <potty> #info LATAM have beena signed with $10950 for the whole FY17 23:44:51 <potty> #info LATAM asked for $23180 for the whole FY17 23:45:27 <chinosoliard> 4kU$S is a big difference 23:45:39 <potty> #info Christoph Wickert is appealing to the Council to approve us $1000 more, making a total of $11950 23:46:00 <itamarjp> potty, do you know how much money we have used last year ? 23:46:06 <potty> The difference is $12,230. 23:46:16 <echevemaster> obviously this is caused for the lack of execution of the complete budget 23:46:28 <potty> #info tatica is appealing to the Council to approve us more budget. 23:46:55 <potty> #info I communicate to the Council that we have a lesson learned here. We underspent what we overasked. 23:47:30 <chinosoliard> Last year, for me, was very difficult, and this one is being too, but I think next month I will get more involved (when I finish building, and get an internet connection) 23:47:30 <athos> So the cut is a good thing, looking at the big picture, no? 23:47:43 <potty> So, to have more budget on next FY, we have to spent what we ask for and organize/participate on more important local events. 23:47:55 <potty> The cut is a natural response for the situation we had. 23:48:00 <potty> The cut was made in general, for all regions 23:48:26 <potty> tatica mentioned that the main problem in LATAM is the reimbursement... It is difficult for many countries. 23:48:58 <potty> #link http://pagure.io/fedora-budget 23:49:09 <potty> #link https://budget.fedoraproject.org 23:50:30 <echevemaster> potty: ? 23:50:33 <echevemaster> EOF? 23:50:36 <potty> not yet 23:50:40 <echevemaster> ok 23:50:41 <potty> The action plan is 23:50:43 <itamarjp> potty, reimbursements are taking alot of time 23:50:55 <potty> itamarjp: give me a minute 23:50:56 <itamarjp> paypal reimbursements are expensive (paypal fees) 23:51:18 * srkraken itamarjp +1 23:51:19 <itamarjp> for latam, I think we should try bitcoins 23:51:29 <potty> 1. Participate on the events we mentioned in the budget. 23:51:37 <potty> 2. Create our reports 23:51:52 <dalmine> itamarjp: bitcoin is dead.. manye coutnries do not use it 23:52:03 <potty> 3. Upload the receipts for the expenses (clear pictures) with the specific detail 23:52:08 <echevemaster> please stop the noise 23:52:11 <itamarjp> dalmine, you said thats dead based on what ? 23:52:28 <itamarjp> dalmine, you don't know about you're talking for. 23:52:28 <potty> 4. Be on time, re-imbursement will be done but please upload things on time 23:52:34 <dalmine> i can not use it in market, taxes normal life 23:52:47 <echevemaster> dalmine: itamarjp please. 23:53:03 <potty> These 4 things are the most important from the contributor point-of-view 23:53:18 <potty> In an administrative (council, famsco) point-of-view 23:53:33 <potty> LATAM should make a campaign (me, lbazan, tatica can make the proposal) 23:53:42 <potty> Of having better reimbursements channels 23:53:58 <potty> 1. Paypal is not as fully wonderful as they think 23:54:07 <potty> 2. Bitcoins are a viable option for some countries 23:54:24 <potty> 3. <Please_insert_other_proposals_here> 23:55:04 <potty> Resuming... Please participate on events you mentioned in budget, be serious with the LATAM Trac, upload receipts, make reports and PLEASE be patient on re-imbursement 23:55:06 <potty> EOF 23:55:20 <williamjmorenor> Info? 23:55:22 <echevemaster> Any commets, guys? 23:55:33 <echevemaster> comments* 23:55:44 <echevemaster> dalmine: itamarjp go ahead now 23:55:51 <dalmine> argentina is not good example oto use paypal or bitcoins 23:55:52 <williamjmorenor> Remenber to send a report of your events 23:55:54 <x3mboy> I think bitcoins is not a better option than paypal 23:56:04 * srkraken yo estoy deacuerdo con la propuesta de potty 23:56:10 <x3mboy> even when paypal maybe is not wonderful 23:56:11 <chinosoliard> potty, there is a big difference between Panamá and Arg, for example... Dolar here change price every day... If reimbursement comes lates, I lose money 23:56:21 <williamjmorenor> Current guidelines say than you send a report to the planet 23:56:21 <dalmine> if i put my money i want to get it back in my pocket not in virtual way 23:56:33 <itamarjp> please ask at least $12.000 usd, this means $1000 usd per month 23:56:34 <dalmine> but i know that argentina it is very difficutl and very special cas 23:56:37 * potty wants to know each country specific situation... To make a better proposal... 23:56:50 <williamjmorenor> Will be my job keep track than people send reports in time 23:57:05 <echevemaster> lack of time on reimbursements is because the lack of reports and upload receipts 23:57:30 <potty> echevemaster: +1 FULLY TRUE 23:57:42 <williamjmorenor> In Nicaragua most of the time Neville can pay in place 23:57:59 <williamjmorenor> echevemaster ++ 23:58:00 <echevemaster> so, we have to improve the way of we do the paperwork. 23:58:03 <potty> In Panama Alejandro is the reimbursement gateway 23:58:36 <dalmine> I do not know chile, but one time i recieved my money back in event ramilton change from paypal and give me money 23:58:36 <echevemaster> when I was in Venezuela, I was reimbursed always in time 23:58:49 <dalmine> maybe someone of other country can do it in the event 23:59:36 <echevemaster> so, please when you do an event, upload your receipts, and I'm sure you will be reimbursed always on time 00:00:11 <x3mboy> The situation about losing money can work backwards too 00:00:24 <echevemaster> and please DO NOT cut the possibility of the people to attend to a event 00:00:27 <x3mboy> So i don't think that should be a problem 00:00:45 <x3mboy> I have a question o/ 00:00:46 <athos> can't a card holder make the reimbursments during the events? 00:00:47 <potty> Some ideas: 1. Cardholder per country (very complex, not feasible but an option) 2. Bitcoins (mediumly complex, not applicable in all countries) 3. Paypal (currently used, not working on many countries) 00:00:57 <echevemaster> x3mboy: go ahead 00:01:28 <echevemaster> potty: an USA account could be solve the problem? 00:01:41 <x3mboy> If i attend an event on my own (without sponsorship), i still can use the fedora team name, brands, logo and everything??? 00:01:42 <potty> echevemaster: please explain your idea 00:01:43 <dalmine> if some country cand use bitcoins or paypal can extract and give money in the event 00:02:27 <xmrbrz> potty, I might have another suggestion 00:02:31 <xmrbrz> https://www.quora.com/How-does-TransferWise-compare-to-PayPal-and-other-money-transfer-services 00:02:32 <echevemaster> example for wired transactions 00:02:51 <potty> xmrbrz: go ahead after echevemaster 00:02:52 <williamjmorenor> Yes xmrbrz 00:02:54 <echevemaster> x3mboy: yes you can 00:03:30 <echevemaster> go ahead xmrbrz I can explain after this 00:04:03 <xmrbrz> ok, I was just searching for another option to transfer money and I found this TransferWise 00:04:15 <xmrbrz> seems better than paypal because of the fees 00:04:27 <xmrbrz> especially, just to consider 00:05:12 <echevemaster> there are a lot of transfer services, but should be one that Redhat be willing to use, 00:05:21 <xmrbrz> not sure if is better or not, personally I never use this service. 00:05:39 <x3mboy> Payoneer cards???? 00:05:41 <echevemaster> for example my question is, if I have an USA account, I can be reimbursed there? 00:05:42 <potty> every idea is welcomed... just throw them 00:05:52 <potty> x3mboy: i just tought of that too 00:06:26 <potty> x3mboy: that is actually having a card holder per country but is not direct related to red hat 00:06:31 <potty> they can just deposit there 00:06:38 <potty> and people per country can use them 00:06:48 <potty> In fact a country could have more than one 00:06:52 <itamarjp> dalmine, https://www.satoshitango.com/home is one of the biggest bitcoins exchanges in the world from argentina and you're saying that bitcoin is dead 00:07:10 <x3mboy> I think maybe some country can have problems, but is a good idea to take into account 00:07:40 <dalmine> yes itamarjp 00:07:46 <potty> For those who don't know about Payoneer... It is a pre-paid Master Card which have the account on the US, but you have the plastic in your country. 00:07:48 <dalmine> i want my money in my hand 00:07:49 <athos> echevemaster: but how would everybody get an account in the US? Also, the person being reimbursed would have to pay for the costs of transfering the money for his/her own contry.... 00:07:55 <dalmine> no doing a lot of trickies things 00:07:57 <dalmine> to get money 00:08:04 <dalmine> my salary is in pesos no bitcoins 00:08:05 <potty> dalmine: true fact but still a good proposal 00:08:16 <dalmine> my taxes is pesos not bitcoins 00:08:34 <itamarjp> dalmine, just ask satoshitango to transfer to your bank account. 00:08:35 <dalmine> so where bitcoins is?? which country use bitoins to use as money? 00:08:38 <potty> Payoneer can make you use it at the ATM, but on the report you have to include the taxes for the withdraw 00:08:50 <dalmine> but itamarjp Argentina is not an example 00:08:57 <dalmine> in other places bitcoins rules 00:09:23 <echevemaster> ok, please make a list of services and send to the list. 00:09:24 <dalmine> and this is the reason why i apply bitcoins because other contry do not have limitation for banks transaction 00:09:27 <echevemaster> agree? 00:09:48 <dalmine> payoneer is good option too 00:10:02 <potty> +1 00:10:10 <x3mboy> +1 00:10:13 <potty> but i'm very positive with the payoneer option 00:10:28 <potty> actually my wife just mentioned that option to me too 00:10:35 <williamjmorenor> A wiki page with info about the best wau can help 00:10:45 <dalmine> someone link payoneer with paypal 00:10:52 <dalmine> if you are from argentina you can no 00:10:54 <echevemaster> potty: only one thing, payoneer card, it takes much time to arrive some countries 00:11:12 <williamjmorenor> If you send the info i can help witj the wiki 00:11:40 <potty> we can try it... I got a Payoneer card 00:11:52 <dalmine> i have one too 00:11:52 <potty> And I may receive the reimbursement there and see if it is feasible 00:12:31 <potty> what do you think 00:12:34 <echevemaster> me too, if someone needs a wired transaction 00:12:39 <echevemaster> sounds good 00:12:42 <itamarjp> dalmine, list of banks supported by satoshitango https://paste.fedoraproject.org/366619/71090146/raw/ 00:13:02 <dalmine> itamarjp: i like bitcoins but in argentina you can not use to live 00:13:05 <potty> so the three proposals are 00:13:10 <potty> 1. Bitcoins 00:13:12 <potty> 2. Payoneer 00:13:25 <potty> 3. Red Hat Credit Card Holder per country (not feasible) 00:13:30 <potty> 4. Paypal 00:13:34 <potty> 5. Other services 00:13:56 <echevemaster> well, seems we have a plan. 00:14:08 <williamjmorenor> Looks good 00:14:11 <echevemaster> give ideas if you have one, and add to the wiki page. 00:14:26 <williamjmorenor> +1 00:14:28 <potty> #action potty to create a wiki page for the new reimbursement proposals 00:14:39 <potty> or... do we have one wiki page? 00:14:43 <dalmine> itamarjp:i never see that an employer pay you bitcoins or recieve in those banks 00:14:49 * srkraken +1 00:14:54 <dalmine> +1 00:15:12 <dalmine> you do not understand the situation of argentina it is very different that said web pages 00:15:12 <potty> Just one more idea about the Payoneer thing 00:15:14 <echevemaster> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Reimbursement 00:15:20 <potty> Thank you echevemaster 00:15:23 <potty> #unndo 00:15:24 <potty> #undo 00:15:24 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x36fff050> 00:15:36 <potty> #action potty to add the proposals on the wiki page 00:15:50 <echevemaster> ok. 00:16:07 <potty> Just one more idea on the Payoneer thing 00:16:35 <echevemaster> to end the meeting: thanks for attend. 00:16:39 <potty> Maybe the countries were is difficult to receive the plastic, you can send it to a country where is easy to receive 00:16:59 <echevemaster> great potty :) 00:17:01 <potty> and on FUDCon, a person from the other country 00:17:08 <potty> can take the card to the person 00:17:20 <potty> so each and every country can have a Payoneer plastic 00:17:39 <echevemaster> please, guys ask for the payoneer plastic 00:17:43 <potty> eof 00:17:57 <echevemaster> I'll close this one. thanks for attend 00:17:59 <echevemaster> 5 00:18:01 <echevemaster> 4 00:18:03 <echevemaster> 3 00:18:05 <echevemaster> 2 00:18:07 <echevemaster> 1 00:18:09 <echevemaster> #endmeeting