23:33:28 <alexove> #startmeeting Fedora-Latam Meeting
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23:33:36 <alexove> #topic rollcall
23:33:44 <alexove> .fas alexove
23:33:45 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
23:33:47 <itamarjp_> .fas itamarjp
23:33:48 <zodbot> itamarjp_: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
23:34:42 <sr_kraken_m> .fas srkraken
23:34:42 <zodbot> sr_kraken_m: srkraken 'Efren Antonio Robledo Moreno' <efren.a.rm@gmail.com>
23:34:45 <athos> .fas athoscribeiro
23:34:45 <zodbot> athos: ribeiro 'Athos Ribeiro' <athoscribeiro@gmail.com>
23:34:54 * sr_kraken_m From Mexico
23:35:05 <yoseft_72> .fas josereyes.jdi
23:35:05 <zodbot> yoseft_72: josereyesjdi 'Jose Reyes' <josereyes.jdi@gmail.com>
23:35:11 * alexove Peru
23:35:18 * sr_kraken_m Saludos
23:35:21 * athos Brazil
23:36:11 <alexove> #chair itamarjp_ sr_kraken_m
23:36:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: alexove itamarjp_ sr_kraken_m
23:38:11 <alexove> There are many tickets market as meeting but we don't know which are still active
23:38:50 <athos> Yes, I was waiting for open floor to talk about it
23:38:54 <alexove> there is the agenda
23:39:04 <alexove> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/report/9
23:40:01 <athos> people mark tickets as meeting but do not remove the tag after the meeting
23:40:59 <alexove> Yes, it's true
23:41:06 <itamarjp_> there are few people here, I think we can start talking about what happened with echevemaster and potty hoy
23:42:22 <itamarjp_> alexove or you can update us about Fudcon Peru,
23:42:49 <alexove> #topic FUDCon Puno 2016
23:43:06 <alexove> Guys, the event owner is Tonet Jallo
23:43:14 <alexove> but he isn't here
23:44:21 <alexove> the last thing I could hear is that the university accepts to support
23:44:30 <alexove> to support to fedora
23:44:47 <williamjmorenor> .fas williamjmorenor
23:44:47 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com>
23:45:12 <alexove> About the ticket 349, The local team can't arrange meetings and they have advances with the university, so my prosence in Puno isn't necesary.
23:45:36 <williamjmorenor> cual es la fecha del FUDCon?
23:46:08 <itamarjp_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Puno_2016
23:46:11 <alexove> For that reason I don't trip to that place and closed the ticket
23:46:25 <itamarjp_> Fudcon Puno, Perú :: October 06 - 07 - 08 - 09, 2016
23:46:43 <alexove> So, in any caseI will to call to Tonet for the next meeting
23:46:48 <williamjmorenor> thanks
23:47:58 <alexove> The event has modification in the dates too, but Tonet will report all about this subject in the next week
23:48:30 <bernardoha> .fas bernardoha
23:48:30 <zodbot> bernardoha: bernardoha 'Bernardo C. Hermitaño Atencio' <bernardoha@gmail.com>
23:48:31 <alexove> eof
23:48:53 <alexove> #action alexove will to call to Tonet Jallo for FUDCon report for the next meeting
23:50:16 <alexove> #topic ticket 351
23:50:22 <alexove> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/351
23:50:31 <alexove> please read the ticket
23:50:43 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Weekends:Cusco_2016
23:51:15 <williamjmorenor> cuales son los objetivos del evento?
23:51:52 <alexove> please read the wiki page, there are the goals
23:52:19 <alexove> I have two main goals for the events:
23:52:24 <alexove> 1st: Train people to attend FUDCon with necessary abilities to enroll into fedora project officially.
23:52:31 <alexove> 2nd: Obtain an effective local team to grow fedora in the Cusco city.
23:53:05 <itamarjp_> Global University fica en cusco ?
23:53:53 <alexove> Yes, is a new university were works a friend
23:54:48 <athos> How many ppl do you intend to reach?
23:55:19 <alexove> for now almost 20 people
23:56:03 <williamjmorenor> there will be a report for every date or a global reporte?
23:56:15 <alexove> but I want enroll at least 5 permanent people
23:56:40 <alexove> there will a report for every date
23:56:49 <echevemaster> Hello everyone sorry for not chairing today, I had an emergency
23:57:05 <alexove> #chair echevemaster
23:57:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: alexove echevemaster itamarjp_ sr_kraken_m
23:57:10 <echevemaster> What is the topic?
23:57:13 <itamarjp_> echevemaster, estamos hablando sobre el ticket 351
23:57:17 <williamjmorenor> do not worry echevemaster
23:57:22 <alexove> #chair williamjmorenor
23:57:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: alexove echevemaster itamarjp_ sr_kraken_m williamjmorenor
23:57:37 <alexove> echevemaster: ticket 351
23:57:51 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Weekends:Cusco_2016
23:58:20 <williamjmorenor> i like this event
23:58:20 <itamarjp_> for me it's a very good idea, and about reimbursements it's a very bad idea to wait until Fudcon to get reimbursement.
23:58:43 <williamjmorenor> it is a nice iniciative before fudcon
23:58:44 <Alyaj2a> .fas alyaj2a
23:58:44 <zodbot> Alyaj2a: alyaj2a 'Aly Yuliza Machaca Mamani' <alyaj2a@gmail.com>
23:59:04 * Alyaj2a from Peru
23:59:23 <athos> +1
23:59:24 <williamjmorenor> please ask if more people can help via hangout por similar
23:59:32 <bernardoha> Alexove si puedes detallar algo mas en español
00:00:00 <alexove> the amount for each event is very small and with the taxes will be more expensive for fedora
00:00:41 <echevemaster> Why are you saying await for reimbursements until Fudcon for that event itamar
00:00:41 <echevemaster> ?
00:00:49 <alexove> for that reason I prefer to wait to FUDCon for reimbursement
00:00:49 <williamjmorenor> this is not a big problem
00:01:16 <echevemaster> OK but this is in the budget for Fudcon?
00:01:30 <itamarjp_> echevemaster, because alexove said on ticket that he can wait to be reimbursed.
00:01:43 <echevemaster> How many much is?
00:02:09 <athos> $560
00:02:09 <williamjmorenor> i do not like the idea to wait until FUDCon ti reimburse it
00:02:17 <itamarjp_> $560 for having 8 sessions promoting fedora in Cusco.
00:02:18 <alexove> 70 USD for each date, 560 as total
00:02:57 <echevemaster> OK this was or is considered on the budget?
00:03:16 <itamarjp_> echevemaster, thats my question,
00:03:31 <itamarjp_> we need to figure if we have this $,
00:04:04 <echevemaster> Because if not, will be difficult reimburse to the responsible
00:04:13 <alexove> these training dates are not considered in the FUDCon budget
00:04:35 <echevemaster> At least our cardholder or our treasure are agree
00:04:51 <williamjmorenor> +1
00:05:03 <echevemaster> OK, please ask to potty or Neville
00:05:24 <itamarjp_> echevemaster, I agree, lets postpone this to next week
00:05:45 <williamjmorenor> sound good
00:05:58 <alexove> Ok, no problem, I can wait for the next meeting.
00:06:42 <itamarjp_> alexove, what do you think about asking an university from cusco to sponsor a bus to send some studends from Cusco to Puno for students attend Fudcon.
00:06:44 <bernardoha> alexove +1
00:07:15 <alexove> I will to ask to academic director about that
00:07:34 <alexove> I want to enroll peoplo from different universities
00:08:14 <williamjmorenor> will be great if are the same people who attend FUDCon Cusco
00:08:18 <alexove> at least 1 of each one
00:08:51 <alexove> lets see in the sessions :-)
00:10:00 <alexove> I received two emails from interested guys from two universities and small tech institute
00:10:09 <williamjmorenor> do you the campus ambassasor group?
00:10:45 <__echevemaster> hello, I'm here?
00:10:46 <alexove> sorry I don't understand your question
00:11:19 <williamjmorenor> there is a subproject
00:11:26 <alexove> yes __echevemaster we can red you
00:11:37 <williamjmorenor> called campus ambassador
00:11:42 <alexove> Ahhh ok
00:11:47 <alexove> where is the url
00:11:51 <williamjmorenor> are Fedora representatives
00:12:04 <williamjmorenor> at universities
00:12:10 <itamarjp_> williamjmorenor, decause is the owner of this idea, but it seems that its not working yet,
00:12:13 <itamarjp_> its just an idea
00:12:21 <alexove> I'm not in that campus
00:12:30 <williamjmorenor> i see
00:13:31 <williamjmorenor> i am just looking a way to help people to find theirs way into Fedora
00:13:59 <alexove> In any case, we will to talk about this ticket in the next meeting
00:14:14 <itamarjp_> next topic ?
00:14:49 <alexove> anyone has a ticket?
00:15:23 <echevemaster> i want to bring a topic.
00:15:32 <echevemaster> Call of papers
00:15:32 <alexove> go ahead echevemaster
00:15:33 <williamjmorenor> please go
00:16:01 <echevemaster> #topic Fudcon Call of papers
00:16:23 <echevemaster> We need to define a date to start the call of papers for fudcon
00:16:49 <alexove> !
00:16:59 <echevemaster> First at all, we have to set the Fudcon Puno tag in the fudcon trac
00:17:04 <echevemaster> alexove: go ahead
00:17:34 <echevemaster> I figured out already is set.
00:17:37 <alexove> 1st: Tonet Jallo (tonet666') is the event owner of fudcon
00:17:47 <echevemaster> alexove: in spanish.
00:17:54 <alexove> Ok
00:18:29 <alexove> Tonet Jallo (tonet666p) es el dueño del evento, él es la persona que deberia informarnos sobre FUDCon
00:18:38 <williamjmorenor> se espera que en el FUDCon solo hayan estudiantes?
00:19:05 <echevemaster> alexove: this was talked four weeks ago, I'm not taking any decision
00:19:17 <echevemaster> I know what is the process
00:19:35 <alexove> Lineas arriba indique Tonet no estaba disponible y que le llamaria para la siguiente reunion y que el mismo sea el que defina todo
00:20:14 <echevemaster> And the person that should inform the process is the person that is chairing the meetings. because of that I'm asking. period
00:20:18 <williamjmorenor> pero FUDCon no es evento de una sola persona
00:20:26 <alexove> Lo ultimo que se es que hay modificaciones las fechas del evento y que la universidad habia aceptado apoyar el evento de manera formal (por medio de una Resolución de Decanatura)
00:20:44 <williamjmorenor> eso es genial
00:21:23 <echevemaster> well, we will leave this for the next week. I will talk with with tonet jallo for being in the same line.
00:21:33 <alexove> lo siguiente es que por medio de ese apoyo se logre asegurar un lugar definitivo para el evento, alimentación y alojamineto
00:21:38 <Alyaj2a> La resolucion ya salio
00:21:41 <williamjmorenor> ok
00:21:47 <alexove> echevemaster: +1
00:22:24 <echevemaster> As I said, I have to inform to the insterested people, and is something that already I talked with Tonet Jallo.
00:22:29 <echevemaster> next topic then
00:22:38 <echevemaster> there is another topic?
00:22:46 <alexove> openfloor?
00:22:49 <alexove> o cerramos
00:22:53 <echevemaster> #topic OpenFllor
00:22:57 <echevemaster> #undo
00:22:57 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0x7fb1f6b65c90>
00:23:02 <echevemaster> #topic OpenFloor
00:23:13 <echevemaster> there is something to discuss in OpenFloor
00:23:14 <echevemaster> ?
00:23:19 <athos> !
00:23:30 <Alyaj2a> Help
00:23:38 <williamjmorenor> !
00:23:44 <alexove> !
00:23:56 <itamarjp_> !
00:24:04 <Alyaj2a> En este meeting me pueden ayudar a elegir el logo?
00:24:04 <yoseft_72> !
00:24:05 <echevemaster> go ahead athos
00:24:27 <alexove> alyaj2a: no se puede, debe ser en un meeting the fudcon-planning
00:24:29 <williamjmorenor> creo que athos primero
00:24:38 <Alyaj2a> Tenemos un ticked en fudcon planning
00:24:38 <athos> ok, as discussed in the begining of this meeting, https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/report/9 should hold the agenda for the next meeting, but it does not
00:24:52 <Alyaj2a> Ahh oki no problem
00:24:59 <athos> since people set the meeting tag and after it is discussed in the metting, they do not remove it
00:25:31 <athos> so echevemaster wasn't here today and when alexove started the meeting, he did not know how to proceed at all, since we did not have an agenda
00:25:47 <athos> we could either:
00:26:08 <athos> reset the tags of discussed points after meetings and set the new ones
00:26:38 <athos> or reset all meeting tags after the meeting (a script?) and then set new and old ones to meeting again as necessary
00:26:42 <athos> EOF
00:26:57 <echevemaster> no. athos any person can start the meeting and chair
00:27:08 <itamarjp_> athos, thats not necessary, the meeting of today was ok
00:27:24 <echevemaster> the tags could co exist with the meeting agenda
00:27:29 <alexove> athos: There are some posponed tickets as mine
00:27:32 <echevemaster> so, it is not needed
00:27:34 <williamjmorenor> creo que una vez que el ticket se apruebe
00:27:47 <williamjmorenor> el dueño del ticket
00:27:53 <echevemaster> once approved the ticket a message will be left there
00:27:57 <williamjmorenor> debe quitar el tag
00:28:11 <alexove> deberia haber otro tag con los tickets aprobados hasta que se cierren
00:28:26 <athos> I understand, but then, how do we track the agenda?
00:28:56 <williamjmorenor> las veces que he sido chair cuando se aprueba u. ticket pongo un link al meeting y quito el tag
00:29:23 <itamarjp_> athos, theres a link in fedora track with the agenda
00:29:23 <echevemaster> alexove: there is one
00:29:48 <williamjmorenor> lo ideal seria mandar la agenda por correo previo al meeting
00:30:21 <echevemaster> no.
00:30:24 <athos> itamarjp_: Yes, that's exactly what I am talking about! The items in the link do not reflect the real agenda, do they?
00:30:32 <echevemaster> the agenda could change even the meeting day
00:31:11 <echevemaster> I can send the agenda or the more relevent points if you want. through
00:31:50 <itamarjp_> athos, its because potty , yn1v is not here so theres no way to talk about $ related tickets today
00:32:13 <itamarjp_> athos, the agenda is always available here, https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/report/9
00:32:22 <athos> oh
00:32:25 <athos> ok :)
00:32:48 <williamjmorenor> by the way
00:32:48 <echevemaster> ok, Alyaj2a
00:33:21 <echevemaster> please if you was interested to choose the logo today you should bring us in a topic
00:33:25 <williamjmorenor> we can start the meeting with a recap of the last meeting
00:34:34 <echevemaster> williamjmorenor: I will bring your idea in the next meeting and if everyone is agree, we will implement, the problem is, the meeting only is for one hour
00:34:49 <echevemaster> and everyone always could see the logs
00:35:20 <williamjmorenor> sound good
00:35:46 <alexove> echevemaster: +1
00:35:50 <itamarjp_> one last thing
00:35:55 <williamjmorenor> athos something mire?
00:36:10 <athos> no :)
00:36:27 <itamarjp_> athos, you have the voice, eof when you finish
00:36:28 <williamjmorenor> itamarjp_ ?
00:36:47 <athos> EOF
00:37:08 <itamarjp_> who is the next ?
00:37:23 <echevemaster> Alyaj2a but she is disconected
00:37:35 <williamjmorenor> ?
00:37:45 <bernardoha> bye
00:38:00 <itamarjp_> williamjmorenor, I would like to ask about fedora-latam website.
00:38:28 <williamjmorenor> bueno yo solo quiero preguntar quienes tienen planes para una fiesta de lanzamiento
00:39:12 <williamjmorenor> itamarjp_ la verdad
00:39:20 <williamjmorenor> no he avanzado mucho
00:39:26 <williamjmorenor> con el sitio
00:40:00 <itamarjp_> echevemaster, we need to know if theres some $ for release party's in next meeting
00:40:08 <williamjmorenor> voy a comunicarme con alejandro al respecto
00:40:34 <echevemaster> o itamarjp_
00:40:48 <echevemaster> well,  May I close the meeting?
00:40:50 <itamarjp_> eof
00:40:58 <williamjmorenor> ok
00:41:23 <alexove> !
00:41:42 <williamjmorenor> alexove?
00:41:50 <echevemaster> go ahead
00:41:59 <alexove> Sobre los talleres de fedora weekends, por favor sugieranme temas como para personas que son principiantes con fedora
00:42:21 <alexove> estoy casi seguro que la mayoria de personas quieren participar de fedora pero no saben mucho
00:42:43 <williamjmorenor> administración de software con dnf rpm
00:43:01 <williamjmorenor> iniciar detener sistemas con systemctl
00:43:21 <alexove> mi idea es involucrarlos en tareas o actividades que no requieran conocimientos tecnicos complejos como traducción, diseño grafico y topicos similares para que puedan ser aceptados en los grupos de fedora
00:43:22 <williamjmorenor> tienen que saber algo de ssh
00:43:54 <alexove> gracias William, agregare lo de dnf que se me habia olvidado
00:43:59 <williamjmorenor> dar karma a los updates en bodhi es facil
00:44:12 <williamjmorenor> Fedora tagger es facil
00:44:39 <williamjmorenor> no recuerdo el link pero es muy fácil colaborar asi
00:44:40 <alexove> con el tiempo espero que todas esas personas logren conocimientos tecnicos que les permitan entrar en grupos de elite, pero no creo lograrlo con todos para este FUDCon
00:44:41 <sr_kraken_m> +1 williamjmorenor suena interesante
00:44:59 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Weekends:Cusco_2016
00:45:01 <williamjmorenor> puedes mostrarles como suscribirse a una lista de correos
00:45:04 <yoseft_72> Git y GitHub es un buen tema
00:45:12 <williamjmorenor> como interactuar en irc
00:45:27 <williamjmorenor> como buscar ayuda en ask fedora
00:45:48 <williamjmorenor> git es casi obligatorio
00:45:49 <athos> s/private_stuff/kvm/ would be nice :) but that would be a little technical
00:46:04 <alexove> en la primera sesión se hablara de los medios de comunicacion de fedora como las listas de correo y el irc
00:46:18 <williamjmorenor> reportar un bug en bugzilla
00:46:22 <athos> s/private/proprietary/
00:46:31 <williamjmorenor> es algo muy importante
00:47:43 <alexove> Creo que esos temas importantes y son sencillos y lo pondre en las demas sesiones de entrenamiento
00:48:11 <williamjmorenor> mostrales los badges
00:48:16 <williamjmorenor> :)
00:48:19 <alexove> espero que se logre una buena base de colaboradores como en Nicaragua
00:48:47 <echevemaster> o como en Venezuela, jejeje
00:48:57 <alexove> Exacto
00:49:09 <sr_kraken_m> Suena muy interesante la iniciativa
00:49:12 <R1chy> buenas, disculpen lo tarde
00:49:34 <R1chy> me pondré más tarde al día con la minuta de la reunión
00:49:47 <alexove> para no hacerla larga, escribire un correo electronico a la lista de correos y podamos aportar en esos temas para que tambien lo puedan replicar en otros lugares
00:49:57 <alexove> les agradezco mucho los consejos
00:49:57 <echevemaster> ok.
00:49:58 <williamjmorenor> vamos  tener que hacer un evento así para no quedarnos atrás :)
00:50:00 <alexove> eof
00:50:14 <echevemaster> Anyone else?
00:50:20 <williamjmorenor> solo una cosa
00:50:30 <echevemaster> williamjmorenor: go ahead
00:50:30 <williamjmorenor> en vez de git github
00:50:41 <williamjmorenor> git pagure ;)
00:50:49 <williamjmorenor> eof
00:50:54 <williamjmorenor> :)
00:51:21 <alexove> williamjmorenor: +1
00:51:21 <echevemaster> by the way R1chy is starting to make the wiki page for Fudcon Venezuela 2017, I'm sure that will be an important venue to take into account
00:51:46 <williamjmorenor> a ese si me apunto
00:51:52 <williamjmorenor> +1
00:51:55 <echevemaster> ok, May I close the meeting?
00:52:21 <williamjmorenor> si
00:52:39 <echevemaster> Thanks everyone for attend
00:52:44 <echevemaster> and sorry for being late
00:52:52 <echevemaster> #endmeeting