15:00:18 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora ARM and AArch64 Status Meeting
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15:00:18 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson dgilmore hrw dmarlin yselkowitz jonmasters ahs3
15:00:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: ahs3 dgilmore dmarlin hrw jonmasters pbrobinson pwhalen yselkowitz
15:00:31 <pwhalen> morning folks! whos here today?
15:00:52 <hrw> /o\
15:00:56 <jlinton> Good morning, this is Jeremy from ARM
15:01:23 <pwhalen> welcome jlinton
15:02:40 <pwhalen> just giving it a minute for folks to join
15:02:46 * jonmasters_ in
15:02:48 <jonmasters_> hi jlinton, thanks for coming :)
15:05:13 * pbrobinson is here
15:05:25 <pwhalen> alright, lets get started
15:05:32 <pwhalen> #topic 1) ==== Package Status & Issues  ====
15:05:48 <pwhalen> pbrobinson, hrw how're we looking this week?
15:06:14 <pbrobinson> nothing really of note here, F-24 is for all intents and purpose done, rawhide looks fine, although I've not look closely at build logs since last week
15:06:57 <pwhalen> ive also been focusing my testing on f24, right now rawhide isnt installable, looks like the shim issue there, but didnt look too much
15:07:19 <pbrobinson> I'll have a look to see at that
15:07:25 <pwhalen> #info No current issues with F24 or Rawhide.
15:07:28 <pbrobinson> might just need to tags some bits in
15:07:47 <pwhalen> has anyone noticed anything else?
15:08:31 <pwhalen> ok, moving on then..
15:08:35 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== Kernel Status ====
15:09:24 <pbrobinson> we should have 4.7rc2 in rawhide
15:09:41 <pbrobinson> and a 4.5.6 on in updates-testing
15:09:48 <pwhalen> has anyone had a chance to look at 4.7?
15:10:17 <pbrobinson> I got as far as downloading v7 rpms
15:11:31 <pwhalen> right, ill get that tested this week on both armhfp and aarch64. help appreciated. i havent looked at 4.7 much yet, waiting for the rc's
15:11:57 <pbrobinson> I'll look at and test 4.6.1 this week and and see what else we need to queue to be ready for when that heads to f24
15:12:22 <pbrobinson> I don't expect it to land in updates-testing until F-24 is signed off for go
15:12:47 <pbrobinson> but other than that nothing really of note else
15:12:59 <pwhalen> 4.5 ive not seen any regressions. 4.6 also looked good as well (both arches)
15:13:50 <pwhalen> #info Currently no issues. Please test and report issues to the list of file a BZ.
15:13:54 <jlinton> Have you guys been seeing the dmi_match warn_on?
15:14:17 <pbrobinson> jlinton: yes, there was a thread on the mailing list about it
15:14:57 <pbrobinson> jlinton: might have been the kernel list
15:15:04 <hrw> jlinton: I see it for so long that I automatically skip it while it boots
15:15:06 <jlinton> Was that the one under the generic pci subject?
15:15:27 <pbrobinson> jlinton: just checking
15:15:33 <jlinton> I think its because of the fedora sepcific watchdog-disable-watchdog-on-virtual.. patch.
15:15:46 <pbrobinson> jlinton: yep, you were on it
15:15:48 <jlinton> which is using the SMBIOS tables to early for ARM64
15:16:05 <jonmasters_> not much we can do about that
15:16:24 <jlinton> well we can tweak that patch not to apply to arm64
15:16:27 <jonmasters_> except conditionally not have that patch
15:16:30 <jonmasters_> right
15:16:31 <pbrobinson> yes, so we have to work out either how we can fix that up, or why in fact that patch is needed, it's been there for ages in one form or another
15:17:06 <jlinton> We would have to hoist the smbios/dmi init on arm64 (and ia64 because it behaves the same way)
15:17:07 <pbrobinson> we can't, all patches get applied currently for all arches
15:17:14 <jlinton> earlier in the boot process
15:17:22 <jlinton> which would be a mainline change
15:18:12 <jlinton> but they will want to know why its needed.. which wont be fun to explain
15:19:00 <pbrobinson> I'd be asking more along the lines of whether the Fedora watchdog patch is still needed
15:20:01 <pbrobinson> and seeing if we can work out whether it is or whether we're still just carrying it because it's been there for ages and still applies but who knows whether the problem still exists
15:21:35 <jonmasters_> I would ask dzickus for advice
15:22:10 <pwhalen> ok, does someone want to take this on, we can follow up next week?
15:22:13 <jonmasters_> (RH x86 watchdog guru)
15:22:40 <jlinton> Per the bugzilla, sounds like it should be duplicatable on vmware
15:22:55 <jlinton> I can try spinning up a vmware/f24 without the patch and see what happens
15:23:09 <jonmasters_> :)
15:23:12 <jlinton> although it might take me a week or two because i have a few things I want to get into this merge
15:23:51 <pbrobinson> yes, looking at the patch it primarily applies to vmware and Bochs (which I think is the open legacy bios that ships with qemu/libvirt and friends)
15:24:07 <jonmasters_> speaking of which, we can sync on PCI quirks and stack tomorrow in Austin
15:24:27 <pbrobinson> jlinton: we could ask if we could disable it in f25/rawhide to see if the problem shows up again
15:25:40 <jlinton> jonmasters_: Just let me know when/where
15:25:52 <jonmasters_> jlinton: I'll be at ARM all afternoon :)
15:26:43 <pwhalen> great, thanks jlinton.
15:27:01 <pwhalen> any other kernel news, issues?
15:27:34 <jlinton> I have a phy/polling patch for juno, but the plan is to upstream that too
15:28:01 <pbrobinson> jlinton: is that around the eth issue you mentioned (maybe on that same thread)
15:28:05 <jlinton> yes.
15:28:20 <pbrobinson> has it been sent for review? got a link?
15:28:37 <jlinton> In house, not much movement on it
15:28:44 <jlinton> but I will post it publically RSN.
15:28:51 <jlinton> where it can then be picked up
15:28:57 <jlinton> or hopefully merged
15:29:40 <pbrobinson> cool
15:30:41 <pwhalen> #topic 3) ==== Bootloader Status ====
15:31:18 <pwhalen> not sure there is too much to say here, no known issues with uboot in f24
15:31:40 <pwhalen> uboot-tools-2016.07-0.1.rc1.fc25 is now in rawhide for testing
15:31:41 <pbrobinson> has anyone had a chance to test the new shipping ed2k/tianocore for virt at all?
15:32:11 <hrw> I used it
15:32:40 <pwhalen> hrw, any other issues?
15:32:48 <hrw> and use it everyday under CentOS (took fedora package, few symlinks and done)
15:33:36 <pbrobinson> OK
15:33:40 <hrw> pwhalen: nope - it just works for me
15:34:03 <pwhalen> hrw, great, thanks. i need to switch over
15:34:27 <pwhalen> i think that about it, anything else for bootloaders?
15:34:55 <pwhalen> #topic 4) ==== F24 Final ====
15:35:33 <pbrobinson> not much to say here either, ARM (both ARMv7 and aarch64) are looking pretty good for GA, I'm not aware of any arm specific blockers atm
15:35:47 <pwhalen> #info Go/NoGo June 9th, release scheduled for next week on the 14th.
15:35:53 <pbrobinson> please test everything from the nightlies in the interim (docker/cloud etc)
15:36:00 <pwhalen> #info Current Test Results
15:36:00 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary
15:36:00 <pwhalen> #info Blocker List
15:36:00 <pwhalen> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/24/final/buglist
15:36:20 <pwhalen> no arm specific issues. thankfully.
15:37:54 <pwhalen> anything else for f24?
15:38:21 <pwhalen> #topic 5) == Open Floor ==
15:38:50 <hrw> can someone recommend cheap, supported arm32 board?
15:39:12 <hrw> friend's friend did something on rpi3 and got hit by lack of performance.
15:39:29 <hrw> so came to me with 'what you suggest to use instead' question
15:39:31 <pbrobinson> hrw: depends on what they want to do with it
15:40:25 <hrw> from description I got so far looks like something with more rt requirements
15:40:34 <pbrobinson> anything AllWinner A-20 is well supported with good perf but only dual core, the Orange Pi ones are cheap and should be much better perf but not well supported at the moment, should change soon
15:40:58 <hrw> they consider banana/pi
15:41:37 <hrw> they draw something over vnc or sth like that - have to gather more details
15:42:35 <yselkowitz> how is the wiki doing wrt ARM and AArch64 for F24?
15:43:05 <pwhalen> yselkowitz, i need to fix it up for final, but i think its ok.. something in particular?
15:43:30 <yselkowitz> just checking, last couple releases we had to scramble a bit
15:43:40 <pwhalen> for the wiki?
15:43:46 <yselkowitz> yes
15:44:00 <pwhalen> hrm i dont recall the 'scramble'
15:44:17 <pwhalen> wiki or websites?
15:44:22 <yselkowitz> wiki
15:44:41 <pwhalen> wiki i mostly maintain.. i know there were some changes for the websites
15:44:41 <yselkowitz> I remember, I did some of the scrambling
15:45:01 <yselkowitz> anyway, glad to hear it's mostly there
15:45:35 <pwhalen> by all means, if you see something let me know, or edit away! :)
15:46:40 <pwhalen> ok, last call for today folks..
15:47:08 <hrww> each time we are in end of open floor I have 2 minutes lag
15:47:36 <hrww> #nedmeeting
15:47:48 <pwhalen> heh
15:47:51 <pwhalen> #endmeeting