22:58:18 <echevemaster> #startmeeting Fedora Latam Ambassadors meeting 2016-08-06
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22:58:32 <echevemaster> #meetingname fedora-latam
22:58:33 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-latam'
22:58:34 <x3mboy> tatica-m1, \o
22:58:41 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster
22:58:43 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
22:58:44 <x3mboy> Sorry, meeting start
22:58:50 * echevemaster Colombia Venezuela
22:58:53 <tatica-m1> .hello tatica
22:58:54 <zodbot> tatica-m1: tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' <tatadbb@gmail.com>
22:58:59 <tatica-m1> Venezuela
22:59:09 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
22:59:10 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com>
22:59:16 * yn1v Nicaragua
22:59:17 <dalmine_> .fas villadalmine
22:59:19 <zodbot> dalmine_: villadalmine 'Rino Rondan' <villadalmine@gmail.com>
22:59:27 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy
22:59:28 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
22:59:31 * dalmine_ Argentina, chile
22:59:32 * x3mboy Venezuela - Chile
22:59:35 <echevemaster> we will start with the request fundng tickets and then with our brainstorming
22:59:40 <echevemaster> #topic Roll Call
23:00:36 <echevemaster> so, starting with ticket 357
23:00:48 <echevemaster> #topic Order 100x 2GB usb stickers for Fudcon Puno
23:01:00 <echevemaster> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/357
23:01:06 <fredlima> .fas fredlima
23:01:08 <zodbot> fredlima: fredlima 'Frederico Henrique Gonçalves Lima' <fred@fredericolima.com.br>
23:01:13 * fredlima Brazil
23:01:15 <em3rson_> .fas em3rson
23:01:15 <zodbot> em3rson_: em3rson 'Emerson Santos' <em3rson@linuxmail.org>
23:01:17 <itamarjp> .fas itamarjp
23:01:18 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
23:01:20 * itamarjp Brazil
23:01:21 * em3rson_ Brazil
23:01:27 <tatica-m1> Stickers or usb?
23:01:34 * jsmith Paraguay
23:01:36 <itamarjp> usb stickers
23:01:43 <itamarjp> aka pendrives
23:01:48 <anamativi> .fas mativi
23:01:49 <zodbot> anamativi: mativi 'Ana Clara Mativi de Souza' <acmativi@hotmail.com>
23:01:50 <echevemaster> itamarjp: can you explain us why do you want o buy these flash drives for Fudcon?
23:01:51 <tatica-m1> Ok
23:02:17 <x3mboy> s/stickers/sticks
23:02:26 <itamarjp> have them available for people installing fedora,
23:02:41 <echevemaster> why you don't bring the idea to the Puno organizers?
23:03:16 <echevemaster> also there is a opened request on the wiki to ask swag
23:03:23 <itamarjp> the people are talking about buying some stuff/swags
23:03:27 <dalmine_> what about the idea of swag
23:03:40 <itamarjp> but no one filled tickets
23:03:41 <echevemaster> idea here is centralize the efforts in  Puno.
23:03:52 <tatica-m1> Usb's are swag
23:04:02 <yn1v> o/
23:04:07 <echevemaster> because deadline is not over
23:04:09 <echevemaster> itamarjp:
23:04:26 <itamarjp> it will cost $2.5 each
23:04:27 <echevemaster> so, add this to the queue to process ot
23:04:32 <echevemaster> it*
23:04:33 <itamarjp> jsmith do you think you can find cheaper ?
23:04:37 <echevemaster> go ahead yn1v
23:05:06 <jsmith> itamarjp: Probably, but I'll have to check... Fedora may have some already that they can send
23:05:14 <yn1v> I think that if somebody take form outside Peru into the country, it will face import duties
23:05:31 <jsmith> yn1v: Likely, yes
23:05:38 <echevemaster> -1 here from me, the request have to being processed from Peru
23:05:41 <x3mboy> o/
23:05:43 <echevemaster> please vote.
23:05:51 <echevemaster> x3mboy: go ahead
23:06:11 <yn1v> so, I think if possible to centralize swag production in Peru
23:06:17 <kovalevsky> .fas sophiekovalevsky
23:06:18 <zodbot> kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky 'Kiara Navarro' <kiarakovalevsky@gmail.com>
23:06:19 <kovalevsky> Panamá
23:06:27 <x3mboy> 100x for installation purposes its, IMHO, too much. Or the idea is to gift them to people?
23:06:33 <yn1v> or somebody that is willingly to take the burden of custom processing. eof
23:06:37 <echevemaster> yn1v: because of that I made the wiki page.
23:06:57 <itamarjp> x3mboy, give 5 of them for each contributor
23:06:58 <dalmine_> -1, better to discuss in Peru, but if want to have in Peru, let this task to people from puno
23:07:03 <echevemaster> x3mboy: the idea is always to gif the people the usb drives
23:07:10 <yn1v> It will be nice to distribute swag left overs among ambassadors
23:07:26 <x3mboy> Ok, it was a misunderstanding on my side
23:07:45 <echevemaster> ok, two negatives votes
23:07:52 <echevemaster> one more, and move on.
23:08:06 <x3mboy> 0
23:08:06 <srkraken> .fas srkraken
23:08:06 <zodbot> srkraken: srkraken 'Efren Antonio Robledo Moreno' <efren.a.rm@gmail.com>
23:08:09 <tatica-m1> 0 I thing the issue is not the ticket, is just the wrong placing
23:08:09 <itamarjp> dalmine_, dont think they can find cheaper price in peru.
23:08:22 <echevemaster> yes.
23:08:24 <echevemaster> ok.
23:08:24 <x3mboy> Same as tatica-m1 says
23:09:03 <echevemaster> #agreed The request has to be processed in Peru, so, this ticket is not approved
23:09:08 <echevemaster> next topic
23:09:08 * srkraken from Mexico
23:09:24 <dalmine_> just to think about swag from one side, and for other side it is a good idea but i do not know if people from puno agre that
23:09:33 <echevemaster> #topic Material for OSASCO OPEN event.
23:09:44 <echevemaster> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/358
23:10:21 <tatica-m1> +1
23:10:24 <fredlima> +1
23:10:25 <echevemaster> ok this events needs some swag.
23:10:29 <echevemaster> +1 here
23:10:34 <itamarjp> +1
23:10:36 <em3rson_> +1
23:10:39 <dalmine_> +2
23:10:41 <dalmine_> +1
23:10:46 <x3mboy> +1
23:10:47 <itamarjp> this event is a kind of fisl but free and a little bit smaller
23:10:54 <echevemaster> #agreed ticket 358 approved
23:10:57 <echevemaster> next topic
23:11:26 <echevemaster> #topic Brainstorming
23:11:37 <echevemaster> First point
23:11:43 <echevemaster> #info Latam Domains
23:11:52 <x3mboy> o/
23:12:08 <echevemaster> go ahead x3mboy
23:12:34 <x3mboy> Basically i have 3 points to discuss with the domains
23:12:48 <x3mboy> The first one is main domain to use
23:13:00 <echevemaster> #chair x3mboy
23:13:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: echevemaster x3mboy
23:13:25 <x3mboy> I'm going to the proccess to ask for latam.fedoracommunity.org
23:13:57 <x3mboy> So i want to ask vote for choose as main domain  latam.fedoracommunity.org or the one adquire fedora-latam.org
23:14:24 <echevemaster> ok I agree latam.fedoracommunity.org should exists.
23:14:24 <tatica-m1> +1 Latam.fc.org
23:14:29 <echevemaster> but.
23:15:01 <echevemaster> the content from fedora-latam.org could exists in fc.org?
23:15:04 <echevemaster> x3mboy:
23:15:27 <echevemaster> or we can redirect latam.fc.org to fedora-latam
23:15:29 <echevemaster> ?
23:15:32 <fredlima> +1 for latam.fedoracommunity.org
23:15:40 <x3mboy> We can make both ways
23:15:41 <jsmith> echevemaster: The redirect can happen either way...
23:16:05 <x3mboy> But fedora-latam.org is paid by us, and now is paid for 2 years
23:16:06 <echevemaster> thanks jsmith :)
23:16:24 <tatica-m1> We can work on the new site without pressure
23:16:30 <x3mboy> So, we can have the content on fc.org and redirect from fedora-latam.org or viceversa
23:16:36 <echevemaster> ok, if we can host the content of fedora-latam.org in latam.fc.org, my vote is yes.
23:16:39 <echevemaster> +1
23:16:43 <tatica-m1> Since we have time, and have both domains link the same place
23:16:45 <itamarjp> +1
23:16:46 <kovalevsky> +1
23:16:51 <fredlima> +1
23:16:56 <dalmine_> +1
23:16:59 <em3rson_> +1
23:17:09 <srkraken> +1
23:17:26 <echevemaster> #agreed, latam.fedoracommunity.org is being processed by x3mboy to became in our official domain
23:17:27 <x3mboy> +1
23:17:44 <echevemaster> x3mboy: next point of this topic, domains
23:17:52 <deadrat> fedora-latam.org +1 --->  latam.fedoracommunity.org
23:17:56 <x3mboy> The second point is country subdomains
23:18:26 <x3mboy> In some point, some countries has a page in the lost old domain proyectofedora.org
23:18:38 <x3mboy> We are going to maintain this as well?
23:18:54 <x3mboy> Because, for example, .ve and .ni has its own sites
23:19:06 <echevemaster> these regional sites was maintained by their own groups.
23:19:15 <x3mboy> .br and .cl are redirecting thier old sites to fedoraproject.org
23:19:25 <echevemaster> so, we have to investigate if these countries still have its sites.
23:19:56 <echevemaster> but, I feel we have to centralize all latam in our community site
23:19:57 <x3mboy> AFAIK only .ve and .ni
23:20:03 <echevemaster> with content in only a site.
23:20:16 <em3rson__> .fas em3rson
23:20:16 <tatica-m1> Richzendy just told me that he's working on the
23:20:16 <zodbot> em3rson__: em3rson 'Emerson Santos' <em3rson@linuxmail.org>
23:20:22 <tatica-m1> .Ve site
23:20:31 <tatica-m1> Sry, phone enter
23:20:46 <itamarjp> echevemaster, I think we can centralize the content in spanish, not sure about portuguese,
23:20:58 <echevemaster> my idea here is link to the other sites from our latam site, but not include subdomains
23:21:15 <echevemaster> itamarjp: sites is ready to support both languages
23:21:39 <x3mboy> Ok, so task here is to investigate country sites and discuss how they are going to manage their local content against main latam site, right?
23:22:00 <echevemaster> right, at least from my POW
23:22:11 <echevemaster> please WDTK? people
23:22:12 <x3mboy> ok
23:22:17 <echevemaster> WDYT?
23:22:18 <tatica-m1> I think that since there are so many sites this discussion should be on email, so everyone can follow it up
23:22:39 <x3mboy> +1 to discuss it in ML
23:22:55 <dalmine_> +1 ML
23:23:00 <echevemaster> #action tatica will send an email to discuss what countries still have content in its latam site
23:23:02 <R|chy> .fas Richzendy
23:23:03 <zodbot> R|chy: richzendy 'Edwind Richzendy Contreras Soto' <richzendy@gmail.com>
23:23:19 <echevemaster> sorry tatica-m1 was your idea, so send the email :)
23:23:23 <echevemaster> hehehe
23:23:27 <x3mboy> LOL
23:23:28 <tatica-m1> Sure, no problem at all
23:23:45 <echevemaster> next topic of this discussion x3mboy
23:23:46 <tatica-m1> I will send it tomorrow morning since I will leave the cinema at midnight
23:24:00 <echevemaster> no problem my darling
23:24:08 <dalmine_> squad suicide:)
23:24:11 <x3mboy> Well i make 2 points in 1, so i'm readi
23:24:19 <x3mboy> s/readi/ready
23:24:22 <echevemaster> ok x3mboy take your time.
23:24:24 <tatica-m1> dalmine_ aye
23:25:32 <x3mboy> echevemaster, ready, point 2 and 3 were related and the answer of 2, make 3 to be ready. So go on with the meeting
23:25:37 <x3mboy> Thanks for your time
23:25:48 <echevemaster> thanks.
23:25:57 <echevemaster> next topic
23:26:42 <echevemaster> #topic Define a way to control how we can following the new contributors work
23:27:45 <echevemaster> the idea here is add our names in a wiki document, I think most of them exists, for the latam people looking for a mentor
23:28:01 <echevemaster> ambassadors wiki page exists.
23:28:26 <echevemaster> packagers in latam wiki page doesn't exists. but the english page yes
23:28:37 <x3mboy> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassadors_Latin_America_(FAMLATAM)
23:28:38 <tatica-m1> +1 however, we need to encourage people to join a team before be ambassadors
23:29:11 <echevemaster> yes tatica-m1. so the idea is create a localised directory in the site. and in the wiki
23:29:24 <echevemaster> and share with the new contributors in a centralized way.
23:29:50 <echevemaster> why, because usually new people, does not have good english skills
23:29:56 <x3mboy> tatica-m1, i have an issue with your idea
23:30:03 <echevemaster> many of them learn english here
23:30:08 <tatica-m1> What if we do a join me page at our new latam.fc.org?
23:30:29 <tatica-m1> A cutw centralized page with all the info a an inbox to contact us?
23:30:54 <echevemaster> tatica-m1: good idea, but the goal is, Make a wiki page with the condensed content
23:30:57 <tatica-m1> Wiki is awful for new people...
23:31:11 <echevemaster> that is I'm talking about-
23:31:37 <echevemaster> so. We are agree on make this?
23:31:43 <x3mboy> +1
23:31:48 <tatica-m1> +1
23:31:51 <x3mboy> o/
23:31:51 <dalmine_> +1
23:32:02 <echevemaster> I'll send to the list to discuss the content, and people wants contribute with the idea
23:32:06 <echevemaster> x3mboy:
23:32:08 <echevemaster> go ahead
23:32:27 <x3mboy> Join to one team before being an ambassador can be a problem, depending of people
23:32:46 <x3mboy> For now, i'm contributing to the magazine, and with marketing
23:33:02 <echevemaster> x3mboy: Because of that we are bringing the idea here.
23:33:10 <echevemaster> tatica-m1: is part of marketing
23:33:10 <x3mboy> But to join properly to these teams, you need to be an actual ambassador
23:33:17 <echevemaster> I'm sponsor of packagers
23:33:33 <tatica-m1> In our old times we used to help before had any title
23:33:36 <echevemaster> williamjmorenor is part of magazine
23:33:38 <tatica-m1> The titles were rewards
23:33:41 * x3mboy thinking in join like having the fas group approved
23:33:43 <echevemaster> and for translations.
23:33:47 <tatica-m1> We need to bring that back again
23:33:51 <yn1v> I think one problems is that there is no enough information about so many teams doing so many things.
23:33:59 <echevemaster> so, we have mentors into almost all the groups
23:34:08 <tatica-m1> People being rewarded for help, instead getting the price before doing anything
23:34:10 <x3mboy> tatica-m1, i understand this, and i'm agree
23:34:36 <R|chy> Mucha gente es aprobada como embajador/a pero luego desaparece y no contribuyen en más nada, una forma de conseguir fidelidad es que estén en algún otro team
23:34:39 <echevemaster> the problem here, is a lot of people does not know how to proceed on the groups.
23:34:57 <x3mboy> But if when you are working and making opinions, you get the "You are not an ambassador, so shut up" it's not nice
23:35:11 <tatica-m1> A centralized wiki with all team mentors should so the work
23:35:11 <echevemaster> so, we need to create a way to introduce them in the teams in its own language,
23:35:23 <echevemaster> so this could be a good point to start
23:35:32 <x3mboy> echevemaster, +1
23:35:37 <echevemaster> ok, next topic.
23:35:56 <yn1v> we should promote a more collaborator dialogue, rather than ambassador dialogue
23:35:58 <echevemaster> #topic strategy to gain visibility
23:36:33 <echevemaster> 1.- Send profiles of contributors to Fedora magazine
23:36:49 <echevemaster> possible profiles echevemaster, villadalmine, vbasel, potty, wolney
23:37:27 <echevemaster> williamjmorenor I think could take care of that
23:37:30 <x3mboy> tatica-m1 was already one of the how-do-you-fedora, make others possible it isn't hard
23:37:32 <tatica-m1> There is a series of interviews we can follow to gain visibility at the magazine
23:37:33 <echevemaster> so I will discuss with him
23:37:44 <tatica-m1> Yes, exactly
23:38:06 <tatica-m1> I have a terrible delay, lol
23:38:10 <dalmine_> i have an email about to write of how do you fedora about months agoo
23:38:24 <dalmine_> but i want to wrote more technical things
23:38:35 <echevemaster> #action william moreno will be our POC in Fedora magazine to gain visivility with some of our contributors
23:38:49 <echevemaster> FADS
23:38:55 <echevemaster> 2. FADS
23:39:12 <echevemaster> usually we never had FADS in latam
23:39:32 <echevemaster> and this is something we have to take on mind seriously
23:39:49 <echevemaster> so, the idea here is send ideas to host FAD in latin america.
23:40:00 <echevemaster> true FADS, not events
23:40:04 <tatica-m1> Im already working on a couple of diversity, wont mind to do a design one
23:40:39 <itamarjp> echevemaster, I think we can start with virtual fads using hangouts on air,
23:40:44 <echevemaster> one of the best examples was one of the FAD, that potty did few months ago, with the packaging of py3 packages
23:40:56 <x3mboy> design just had one
23:41:00 <x3mboy> but not latam
23:41:13 <echevemaster> yes itamarjp, it's not needed make a FAD travelling to the country where we will held the FAD
23:41:20 <tatica-m1> Yes, i was there
23:41:23 <echevemaster> x3mboy: exactly.
23:41:31 <dalmine_> yes, it is a good idea use hangout
23:41:33 <tatica-m1> I already had a design sprint with Peru
23:41:43 <echevemaster> so, the idea is create a list of FAD that will be held virtually
23:42:01 <tatica-m1> I've done about 7 online meetings the past 15 days
23:42:06 <x3mboy> There is a RH tool to make this vFADs
23:42:07 <echevemaster> through IRC and hangout, and create reports of the made work
23:42:16 <tatica-m1> It's totallt doable
23:42:24 <tatica-m1> Bluejeans
23:42:33 <echevemaster> x3mboy: can you share with us when you can
23:42:34 <x3mboy> Yeah, that one
23:42:41 <echevemaster> so.
23:42:41 <x3mboy> Bluejeans
23:42:57 <tatica-m1> We had the FWD using bluejeans
23:43:11 <tatica-m1> 3 weeks ago, about 20 people each
23:43:11 <echevemaster> #action echevemaster will send to the list a request to create a list of possible VFAD's
23:43:29 <echevemaster> tatica-m1: bluejeans is a package?
23:43:38 <x3mboy> tatica-m1, and the conferences can be recorded to plubish it later?
23:43:44 <itamarjp> something presencial will be ok for neighborhood countries
23:43:45 <tatica-m1> Yup
23:43:50 <itamarjp> like panama + costa rica,
23:43:56 <itamarjp> paraguay + brasil
23:44:00 <itamarjp> argentina + uruguay
23:44:02 <tatica-m1> No more unnecessary travel itamarjp
23:44:16 <tatica-m1> Isn't that what you said?
23:44:38 <itamarjp> tatica-m1, yes for that reason I suggested vfads
23:44:41 <tatica-m1> If the online ones work, then we can go and travel
23:44:49 <echevemaster> #topic  Use Pagure.io to host the Latam code projects
23:44:51 <itamarjp> tatica++
23:44:51 <zodbot> itamarjp: Karma for tatica changed to 5 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:44:51 <tatica-m1> Prove first, then rewarda
23:45:13 <echevemaster> this not need discussion
23:45:33 <echevemaster> Nowadays there is only three code projects in latam
23:45:40 <tatica-m1> So, just make a list and we will suggest fads
23:45:41 <echevemaster> with fedora guys
23:45:44 <tatica-m1> Count me in with 2
23:45:49 <echevemaster> thanks tatica-m1
23:46:07 <tatica-m1> Sry, delay. Didn't saw the topic change
23:46:08 <echevemaster> we will import these projects to pagure.io and keep them also in github
23:46:21 <echevemaster> #action we will import these projects to pagure.io and keep them also in github
23:46:41 <echevemaster> #topic Askbot contribution - In spanish version
23:46:55 <echevemaster> we have the spanish version of Askbot
23:47:17 <tonet666p> .fas tonet666p
23:47:19 <zodbot> tonet666p: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' <tonet666p@gmail.com>
23:47:20 <echevemaster> so I want to encourage you to participate in Askbot, we only have 500 questions
23:47:21 * tonet666p from peru
23:47:24 <tonet666p> hi guys
23:47:37 <echevemaster> and many of them still not answered
23:47:50 <echevemaster> who here have logged into ASkbot?
23:48:07 <tatica-m1> O/
23:48:15 <x3mboy> With askbot do you mean ask.fedoraproject.org/es?
23:48:21 <echevemaster> yes
23:48:22 <tatica-m1> Yup
23:48:30 <x3mboy> So o/
23:48:46 <echevemaster> that is the only official project we have in Fedora
23:48:57 <x3mboy> I was answering a 2 or 3 days ago
23:49:24 <echevemaster> mime, lokomurdok and I we worked on that two years ago, and we achieved this project was released
23:49:33 <x3mboy> And there are a lot of Qs than are old and irrelevant, the site need love
23:49:37 <echevemaster> so, we need to re-releasing
23:50:00 <echevemaster> that is the answer x3mboy site need love
23:50:12 <echevemaster> so, I can't put responsibles here
23:50:20 <echevemaster> but I can encourage you
23:50:37 <x3mboy> I'm in with that
23:50:40 <echevemaster> so, go ahead, and give a bit of love to ask.fpo.
23:50:41 <dalmine_> love like answer some question or other kind of love .)
23:50:51 <x3mboy> But just if we are talking about moderation, and answering
23:50:54 <echevemaster> dalmine_: stop trollng
23:51:06 <tatica-m1> Lol
23:51:13 <dalmine_> i just only asking.. do we need new site?
23:51:14 <echevemaster> x3mboy: if you want moderate I can give your credentials
23:51:17 <dalmine_> or more participation
23:51:32 <echevemaster> and obviously more participation
23:51:32 <x3mboy> Yeah, i have no issues
23:51:41 <echevemaster> the site is.. QA
23:51:42 <x3mboy> But we need to make marketing about the site
23:51:46 <echevemaster> we need answers
23:51:52 <echevemaster> exactly.
23:51:56 <x3mboy> And of course, answers
23:52:00 <echevemaster> so include the site in marketing
23:52:06 <echevemaster> in flyers etc
23:52:12 <dalmine_> answers,desing, markting
23:52:32 <echevemaster> ok. people. I think this is all our brainstorming.
23:52:43 <x3mboy> No, there is one more
23:52:49 <echevemaster> we can't convert telegram into an official channel
23:52:56 <x3mboy> Oh, so there is no more
23:52:58 <echevemaster> what one? x3mboy
23:53:01 <dalmine_> of course we can not
23:53:07 <dalmine_> but a lot of things be there
23:53:12 <dalmine_> and not in official channel
23:53:27 <echevemaster> but we will put rules there.
23:53:30 <R|chy> That's a great idea echevemaster, share the ask spanish site on all our talks and swag
23:54:06 <dalmine_> if tg is not a official channel, do we need rules ?
23:54:12 <tatica-m1> I can help with that. Maybe we should do something for Pune. Will work with the local team on it
23:54:12 <echevemaster> and we need to create rules because the channel was made to help new contributors
23:54:16 <dalmine_> because it is not a fedora channel
23:54:18 <x3mboy> dalmine_, yes we need
23:54:36 <dalmine_> it is a friend channel
23:54:48 <tatica-m1> Some tend to forget that...
23:54:50 <echevemaster> tatica-m1: What do you refer, flyers or rules?
23:54:56 <x3mboy> But conversations are not friendly all the time
23:55:01 <tatica-m1> Flyers... lag.... sorry
23:55:28 <echevemaster> x3mboy: being candor,conversations are not friendly at all last days or last weeks
23:55:38 <dalmine_> ok, but i do not know who we can manage it if tg channel it is nothing official
23:56:05 <tatica-m1> I think that is we set some rules would be ok
23:56:07 <x3mboy> Well things are official or not official, no grey areas
23:56:08 <dalmine_> a lot of distros/communit are using TG
23:56:16 <tatica-m1> Anyone who break those twice gets kicked out
23:56:23 <echevemaster> correct.
23:56:31 <dalmine_> at least 4F
23:56:35 <tatica-m1> First time warning, second out
23:56:36 <echevemaster> and I will take the same rules of Fedora for the channel
23:56:42 <echevemaster> be respectfully
23:56:46 <echevemaster> help to others
23:56:52 <dalmine_> channel is not official but we feel like official..
23:57:01 <echevemaster> exactly
23:57:07 <dalmine_> so maybe try to apply same rules there
23:57:17 <echevemaster> so, we can make jokes, we can be funny
23:57:21 <chinosoliard> .fas chinosoliard
23:57:22 <zodbot> chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' <a.soliard@gmail.com>
23:57:27 * chinosoliard from .ar
23:57:29 <echevemaster> but we can not be unrespectful
23:57:33 <chinosoliard> hi people
23:57:38 <R|chy> Chinosoliard, welcome
23:57:39 <deadrat> I would personally advice against TG group.. I have noticed many communities that started a telegram group, but slowly their activity got shifted to tg from IRC ..
23:57:52 <echevemaster> ok. I will write some rules and share with you.
23:57:59 <tatica-m1> That's our case currently
23:58:01 <echevemaster> and put into the header of our channel
23:58:20 <tatica-m1> However, I spend more time on my phone now, so tg is easier to me
23:58:22 <dalmine_> they are may bots in TG
23:58:29 <dalmine_> maybe fedora can create one personal bot
23:58:37 <dalmine_> like "fedora" bot
23:59:09 <echevemaster> dalmine_: this is not about a bot. is about is someone not follow rules will kicked off
23:59:11 <chinosoliard> I'm sorry, I'm lost
23:59:20 <echevemaster> thats it
23:59:23 <echevemaster> so.
23:59:32 <echevemaster> #topic OpenFloor
23:59:32 <dalmine_> yes, rules... 4F
23:59:44 <deadrat> it is easier, but telegram is not a complete  free software. fedora project was always very reluctant to use prop. services for the project.. if you move, the community may move to tg from IRC without even realising it..
23:59:54 <echevemaster> someone wants bring something to OpenFloot?
00:00:22 <tatica-m1> I would like to raise a first warning on itamar at the tg channel
00:00:22 <x3mboy> So having the statement that TG is not official, anything recorded that can be took as a decision or voting
00:00:34 <echevemaster> deadrat: actually we are not moving to TG, but a lot of people is chatting in ther
00:00:51 <echevemaster> x3mboy: never has been so
00:01:02 <tatica-m1> A friendly call of attention that we really don't like this new attitude
00:01:45 <echevemaster> yes, tatica-m1
00:02:03 <R|chy> You are right, deadrat, but fedora have presence on Facebook for example and is not free, we need be openmind sometimes
00:02:11 <echevemaster> itamarjp: take into account this is the first call of attention.
00:02:23 <chinosoliard> deadrat, Fedora also have a news channel in TG
00:02:37 <echevemaster> so people
00:02:48 <echevemaster> Can I close this meeting?
00:02:49 <x3mboy> o/
00:02:56 <x3mboy> No, just a last call
00:02:56 <echevemaster> go ahead x3mboy
00:03:27 <R|chy> Yes, echevemaster
00:03:35 <echevemaster> x3mboy: define the rules. after them. Put in practice
00:03:38 <echevemaster> not before
00:03:38 <x3mboy> Locally in Chile, i'm working with Larry, Roy, hopefully with dalmine_ next week, to bring Fedora.cl community back
00:03:38 <tatica-m1> Almost no battery!
00:03:39 <R|chy> Thank you so much
00:03:40 <itamarjp> echevemaster, I will use my freedom to say what I would like to say only in my own groups
00:03:48 <itamarjp> so no one will kick me out.
00:03:50 <echevemaster> x3mboy: excellent!
00:04:08 <deadrat> chinosoliard: yes, some people maintain a channel there.. :(  I was afraid that this could happen..
00:04:08 <echevemaster> itamarjp: you can use your freedom
00:04:09 <x3mboy> So, we want to ask, having none of us going to FUDCon
00:04:21 <tatica-m1> Bravo itamarjp... it's more important that than your community folks... just bravo
00:04:25 <echevemaster> but you can not use your freedom to bother.
00:04:44 <dalmine_> do you have a new communit??
00:04:48 <x3mboy> If we can make a kind of local FUDCon, streaming with real FUDCon and having poeple attending to an event at the same time that FUDCon
00:05:16 <x3mboy> dalmine_, no, AFAIK, for now is just bringing dead back to live
00:05:16 <tatica-m1> It depends on puno streaming, right?
00:05:20 <echevemaster> yes
00:05:28 <echevemaster> and never we had stremings
00:05:29 <echevemaster> so.
00:05:34 <chinosoliard> I need to ask for help tomorrow, to complete the flight doc. I've never traveled by plane, and I'm really confused
00:05:40 <tatica-m1> But we can have transcripts...
00:05:46 <echevemaster> ok, I will close the meeting.
00:05:49 <yn1v> streaming a is a lot work, I think that the team has a lot of things to take care.
00:05:50 <tatica-m1> We just had those for flock
00:05:51 <x3mboy> Not all events, but i think i'm going to chanalize this in a email
00:05:57 <dalmine_> yes x3mboy we can talk about it ins antiago :) i want help
00:06:00 <echevemaster> chinosoliard: tomorrow I will help you
00:06:06 <chinosoliard> thanks, echevemaster <3
00:06:13 <echevemaster> 5
00:06:14 <x3mboy> dalmine_, that's the idea ;)
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00:06:18 <x3mboy> echevemaster++
00:06:18 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for echevemaster changed to 7 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
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00:06:24 <echevemaster> #endmeeting