22:58:34 #startmeeting Fedora Ambassadors Latam meeting 2016-08-20 22:58:34 Meeting started Sat Aug 20 22:58:34 2016 UTC. The chair is echevemaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:58:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:58:34 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_ambassadors_latam_meeting_2016-08-20' 22:58:43 #meetingname fedora-latam 22:58:43 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-latam' 22:58:49 #topic Roll Call 22:58:57 .fas echevemaster 22:59:01 echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' 22:59:05 * echevemaster Venezuela, Colomnbia 22:59:06 .fas x3mboy 22:59:06 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 22:59:15 * x3mboy Venezuela - Chile 22:59:30 .fas kovalevsky 22:59:31 kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky 'Kiara Navarro' 22:59:39 * kovalevsky Panamá 22:59:40 .fas xmrbrz 22:59:42 xmrbrz: xmrbrz 'Bruno Roberto Zanuzzo' 22:59:43 * xmrbrz Brazil 22:59:43 .fas chinosoliard 22:59:44 chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' 22:59:49 .fas itamarjp 22:59:50 itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' 22:59:50 ** from Argentina 22:59:52 * itamarjp Brazil 23:00:00 * chinosoliard from Argentina 23:01:46 Hi everyone, today the only ticket we have on the trac is about the swag, last week was deadline however was decided move the deadline for this week 23:01:56 lets start 23:02:19 #topic Swags for Fedora Latam 23:02:41 .fas alexove 23:02:42 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 23:02:54 alexove: we're discussing the swag's ticket 23:02:57 * alexove Peru 23:03:03 o/ 23:03:05 ! 23:03:13 Si lo se 23:03:48 ok, please read the ticket and decide if the amounts are OK or not. 23:03:59 !!!!! 23:04:05 chinosoliard: go ahead 23:04:37 .fas douglax 23:04:38 douglax: aacosta 'Alejandro Acosta' 23:04:53 * douglax México 23:05:14 Sorry, I couldn't edit the wiki, I copy&paste Richzendy and tatica row, and that numbers are "goods" but maybe we can decrease t-shirt quantities 23:05:35 I post a comment at the ticket yesterday 23:05:47 I'm so sorry, I really forgot to edit 23:06:05 anyways, we'll take into account chinosoliard 23:06:06 chinosoliard++ 23:06:06 That change will decrease the ticket amount 23:06:43 * alexove está en la via publica y no podra escribir en inglés y tampoco hacer calculos 23:06:45 there are questions for alexove or bernardo? 23:07:43 ! 23:08:13 .hello 23:08:13 yosef73: (hello ) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 23:08:13 alexove: go ahead 23:08:22 Si pueden ver en el ticket, el costo es alto en los tshirts y los usb 23:08:34 . Fas em3rson 23:08:34 em3rson_: em3rson 'Emerson Santos' 23:08:36 .fas josereyesjdi 23:08:40 yosef73: josereyesjdi 'Jose Reyes' 23:08:47 * em3rson_ Brazil 23:08:49 Para los tshirt no hay remedio el costo es el que es 23:09:03 I understand that part, about the tshirt. 23:09:19 Para los usb hay la alternativa de comprarlos por ebay 23:09:33 The printed usb for me are it's not something essential. 23:09:34 O por internet porque el previo es más barato 23:10:04 What about the import into Peru? 23:10:06 Pero por el peso y costo de la compra puede estar sujeto al pago de impuestos 23:10:11 maybe we can think about USBs after 23:10:46 yeah! 23:10:48 For me everything looks okey except that the amount of money that we're going to spend in usb it's not really need it, from my perspective. 23:10:55 how many is cheaper on Ebay alexove? 23:10:55 * potty salute everyone 23:10:58 So for me +1 23:11:03 for example, in .ar, I'll have problems to "import" USB Sticks 23:11:27 alexove, what it's the card size? 23:11:28 Es decisión del pleno, aprobar el monto actual, reajustar la cantidad de cosas (posponer una semana más) o quitar cosas 23:11:42 I agree with kovalevsky, from me +1, without USB 23:11:54 I agree with kovalevsky too 23:12:05 chinosoliard: react with your vote 23:12:13 ! 23:12:19 potty: go ahead 23:12:25 Do not forget to check financials here... 23:12:25 There is no way where we can decrease the amount, I mean, decreasing the size maybe ? 23:12:31 What is the amount? 23:12:39 +1 without usb (And I'm proposing decrease t-shirt quants for arg, and maybe more stickers, bottons, etc) 23:12:47 And what is the current problem? 23:12:49 potty, the amount regard to? 23:12:53 * mribeirodantas Brazil 23:12:58 .fas mribeirodantas 23:12:59 mribeirodantas: mribeirodantas 'Marcel Ribeiro Dantas' 23:13:01 kovalevsky: USD to spend 23:13:04 the problem is that the usb are to expensive. 23:13:09 Echevemaster: pega el link del ticket 23:13:09 3391 23:13:11 5.97 per unit 23:13:15 it's huge 23:13:23 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/359 23:13:25 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/359 23:13:26 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/359 23:13:36 thank you. Give a minute to review it please. 23:14:29 done. 23:14:40 T-shirt prices are good for me 23:14:40 Ahora, tengan en cuenta de que aun asi el monto es alto como para poder pagarlo nosotros y pedir reembolso 23:14:49 My inputs: 1) remove usb 2) review the total amount of tshirts 23:14:57 Another important thing here. 23:15:02 Necesitaremos el dinero por adelantado 23:15:12 alexove: 23:15:13 EOF 23:15:26 Do your provider is able to receive direct credit-card payment? 23:15:31 potty: is possible? 23:16:02 and do we still use DVDs? I 've hardly seen anyone use it in last year. Are those necessary? 23:16:17 Time before Neville was able to pay directly (of course the ticket was previously approved) the total value of the ticket directly to the provider, avoiding giving reimbursements or in-advance. 23:16:18 Bernardo hizo las cotizaciones y yo solo cuadre las cosas 23:16:27 deadrat, there are still used, so. 23:16:39 Es muy posible que ninguno acepte tarjeta de crédito 23:16:53 deadrat, I've only asked for 10 dvds, that I will use when someone ask for it 23:16:57 everyone: i think we should reduce the quantity of items to the most useful for this FY 23:17:03 atleast in South and Central america deadrat 23:17:13 remember we don't have as much budget as we wanted 23:17:13 ! 23:17:21 go ahead alexove 23:17:24 potty, that's a good point 23:17:35 another thing: if we focus on pay this we will loose neville focus on paying fudcon air tickets 23:17:38 Tengan en cuenta que sin swags para eventos post-FUDCon 23:17:39 we can decrease Printed DVD 23:17:46 haha.. okay folks.. cool then.. I noticed 1500 DVDs on the link you have shared.. I don't even know what exactly is being discussed.. 23:18:05 Eof 23:18:05 deadrat: is swag for all latam. 23:18:06 sorry to just barge in.. :P 23:18:13 np :P 23:18:23 echevemaster .. Thanks. 23:18:35 potty++ 23:18:35 itamarjp: Karma for potty changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:18:46 I think buying fudcon tickets is the priority now 23:18:56 itamarjp, ++ 23:19:01 ok. please, decide if we'll decrease the amounts 23:19:17 or we move this decision for the next week 23:19:23 These are my 2 cents here. You know I support this initiative but we have to consider those 2 factors: 1) total budget required for this 2) availability of neville to pay this (remembering fudcon is near and have to buy tickets) 23:19:24 Ok, for me, I would remove the usb items. 23:19:26 and yes, I agree with Itamar 23:19:30 decrese the amounts 23:19:55 eof 23:19:55 if we would like to buy swags we should ask Ruth or other people to buy tickets 23:19:55 ok, please decide what amounts will be decreased 23:20:15 as I said before, when I send that mail, I just want to produce stickers, bottons, etc... Not t-shirts 23:20:24 Ruth is not the people in charge anymore, if I'm not wrong itamarjp 23:20:27 ! 23:20:33 potty: go ahead 23:20:36 We need to be clear about how the peru guys are going to receive the payment, as well 23:20:44 but that t-shirts are in a very good price... so, the problem here, is the quantity 23:21:41 My suggestions: 1. Have only 1-size of button. 2) Decrease printed-DVD to 750. 3)Remove printed-USB at all 23:21:48 lets define how much money we have available then after that define amount of t-shirts 23:21:53 ok. 23:22:01 EOF 23:22:05 please first buy Fudcon tickets 23:22:08 potty++ 23:22:10 Chinosoliard: los tshirts no los considero un problema porque pueden pasar como prendas tuyas 23:22:13 and after the tickets be bought 23:22:26 ! 23:22:27 see if could be bought the swag 23:22:29 alexove: 23:22:31 go ahea 23:22:38 no hay forma de que justifique 50 remeras iguales, nuevas, como mías!!!! 23:23:02 btw 4) Reduce lanyards to 200 23:23:07 Echevemaster saben cuanto es la línea de crédito de la tarjeta? 23:23:15 chinosoliard ++, el maximo para alfandega es 20. 23:23:19 3000 per month 23:23:25 Se van a gastar casi 10k 23:23:40 Y ya estaba septiembre, no va a alcanzar 23:23:49 limit is per month 23:23:53 por eso echevemaster quería hacerlo rápido 23:24:01 indeed 23:24:10 Por eso, son 10k en dos meses serian 5k por mes 23:24:11 ! 23:24:16 potty: go ahead 23:24:16 I know the limit 23:24:19 well... we need to decrease the ticket amount 23:24:32 Nobody asked me.. But remember, still financials guy for latam (?) 23:24:45 Limit is USD3000 23:25:22 Yo sugiero posponer este tema una semana más, y REVISEN A CONCIENCIA la pagina de wiki 23:25:23 sorry potty, I only asnwer to alexove because he asked 23:25:48 Y tengamos en cuenta que no podemos sobrepasarnos de 3k 23:25:48 it is ok 23:26:07 alexove: if the decision is moved to the next week, we don't have time to produce it 23:26:12 that is it. 23:26:29 En Lima lo hacen rápido 23:26:50 6973 - 3582 = 3391 23:26:53 it's not for Lima, it's by the limit of the credit card 23:26:53 Demoraran máximo 10 días 23:27:05 Amount - USB Sticks = 3391 23:27:28 and the fudcon tickets should be bought 23:27:35 chinosoliard: I would like to reduce it a bit lower by removing unnecessary stuff 23:27:55 potty, obviusly, we can reduce DVDs 23:27:56 Potty: +1 23:28:14 potty: Do you know if all the fudcon tickets will be bought for Neville? 23:28:25 or there are Redhat people in charge? 23:28:41 echevemaster: the idea is that Neville buy all the fudcon tickets 23:28:55 ok there is a problem here. so 23:28:56 So we do not have to depend directly on RH people 23:29:19 only we have two months to buy tickets 23:29:24 the limit is 3000 23:29:26 yes 23:29:32 :-/ 23:29:34 that's another topic my friend, but yes 23:29:36 oh oh 23:29:42 i understand your doubt 23:29:43 in theory we can spend 6000 23:29:53 and not 10000 23:30:03 yes, that is my doubt 23:30:05 * alexove piensa que va ha haber un gran problema aquí, hay que hacer reembolos aquí 23:30:11 if we buy the swag 23:30:18 i got to go 23:30:23 sorry for early leaving friends 23:30:29 any inquiry do not doubt to ping me 23:30:31 there is not money for flights 23:30:45 ok potty go ahead 23:30:49 thanks 23:31:05 ok, I think we have to ask neville if this is possible to do 23:31:16 yes, and quickly 23:31:33 itamarjp, can we decrease some numbers for brazil? 23:31:36 and if not, leave this buy for now 23:31:45 chinosoliard, all of them to zero. 23:31:55 itamarjp, ¬¬ 23:32:07 ok, moved for the next week 23:32:10 Sería cosa de conversar con jzb si puede comprar los tickets de avión como hacia Ruth 23:32:23 we can decrease to 500 dvds, and that will not change too much the total ticket amount 23:32:42 #action Ask to neville about we can buy swag with the current limit of the credit card 23:32:58 anyone has a topic to bring to the meeting? 23:33:05 echevemaster, my suggestion is fudcon tickets first. 23:33:29 itamarjp, +1 23:33:31 itamarjp: I agree with you, I'll only ask to neville if both things are possible to do 23:34:06 Again, anybody has a topic to discuss? 23:34:17 ok. 23:34:19 Por mi parte le escribiré a jzb para ver si de puede hacer algo al respecto 23:34:29 alexove +1 23:34:32 who is jzb ? 23:34:44 El que maneja la plata 23:34:51 Joe 23:35:04 * alexove le preguntó a Ruth ayer 23:36:09 I'd prefer discuss this with neville and then if apply that him discuss with jzb 23:36:18 #topic OpenFloor 23:36:48 De todos modos le ire preguntando para ahorrar tiempo 23:36:56 Tenemos tiempo y números el contra 23:37:01 I don't have any topics. 23:37:04 alexove, +1 23:37:06 May I close the meeting? 23:37:11 echevemaster++ 23:37:13 alexove++ 23:37:16 kovalevsky++ 23:37:16 chinosoliard: Karma for sophiekovalevsky changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:37:18 itamarjp++ 23:37:21 thanks for attend 23:37:30 potty++ 23:37:33 #endmeeting