15:00:12 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora ARM and AArch64 Status Meeting
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15:00:12 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson dgilmore hrw dmarlin yselkowitz jonmasters ahs3 msalter
15:00:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: ahs3 dgilmore dmarlin hrw jonmasters msalter pbrobinson pwhalen yselkowitz
15:00:21 <pwhalen> morning folks, whos here today?
15:00:37 <jlinton> good morning
15:01:13 * pbrobinson is sort of here, mostly at another meeting
15:02:16 <cov> hi
15:03:15 <pwhalen> thanks for coming, lets get started..
15:03:22 <pwhalen> #topic 1) ==== Userspace Status  ====
15:03:42 <pwhalen> anyone seeing any issues they'd like to report?
15:04:20 <cov> got some odd failures the other day
15:04:36 <cov> Failed to start Create Volatile Files and Directories
15:04:49 <cov> also Login Service
15:04:59 <cov> but I rebooted and stuff worked
15:05:55 <pwhalen> ive not seen it myself, but please let us know if it continues.. anyone see something like this?
15:06:33 <pwhalen> our audience might be limited today, but we'll go through the motions
15:06:46 <pwhalen> #info Mono 4.6 bootstrap for AArch64 to be completed this week in Rawhide.
15:07:13 <pwhalen> any other userspace items?
15:07:51 <rric> hi
15:08:15 <pwhalen> good day rric, thanks for joining
15:08:29 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== Kernel Status ====
15:08:39 <pwhalen> #info Latest Rawhide - kernel-4.9.0-0.rc0.git5.2.fc26
15:08:40 <pwhalen> #link http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=808498
15:09:22 <pwhalen> #info Latest F25 - kernel-4.8.1-1.fc25
15:09:22 <pwhalen> #link http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=807813
15:09:22 <pwhalen> #link http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=405129
15:10:23 <pwhalen> #info 4.8.2 should head to F24 next week.
15:10:37 <pwhalen> #info Please test and report any issues to the list or #fedora-arm.
15:10:54 <rric> I sent a fix upstream that fixes the boot issue on my ThunderX:
15:10:57 <rric> http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg535191.html
15:11:01 <pwhalen> excellent
15:11:27 * jonmasters is on
15:11:31 <rric> see also my mail on arm@lists.fedoraproject.org
15:12:07 <pwhalen> #info ThunderX patch submitted upstream - http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg535191.html
15:12:48 <rric> there is not much of an upstream discussion, I guess due to last week's conf and the merge window
15:13:04 <pwhalen> hopefully see some this week
15:13:43 <rric> would it be possible to integrate it into the Fedora kernel anyway, esp. for testing of install images?
15:15:05 <pbrobinson> rric: it's on my list to review
15:15:08 <pwhalen> pbrobinson would need to take a look at it. He's a little tied up right now, but I'll ask him to take a look after the meeting.
15:15:15 <pwhalen> thanks pbrobinson
15:15:23 <rric> great, tnx
15:15:39 <jlinton> I thought Ard had some pretty strong opinions about that patch
15:15:47 * jlinton hasn't looked at it to close
15:16:51 <rric> jlinton, I answered to him and still feel more comfortable with my solution
15:17:09 <rric> I guess arm64 maintainers need to look at it
15:17:26 <rric> the alternatives would touch generic code
15:17:40 <jonmasters> rric: I'm curious why it's marked as nomap but I need to look at the thread
15:18:24 <rric> yes, they changed from reserved to nomap
15:18:52 <rric> this means pfn_valid() has now holes, which triggered the bug_on()
15:19:18 <jonmasters> rric: indeed, ok
15:19:26 <rric> I think we will need valid pfns also for nomap pages
15:19:38 <rric> that's the fix
15:21:23 <pwhalen> #topic 3) ==== Bootloader Status ====
15:21:38 <pwhalen> #info Latest - uboot-tools-2016.11-0.1.rc1.fc26
15:21:53 <pwhalen> #link http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=808089
15:22:24 <hrw-mobile> u-boot... reminds me that I have to solder serial to my 3rd snow chromebook :(
15:23:54 <pwhalen> latest version includes patches for mounting ext4, to be reviewed and pulled into f25 before final.
15:24:22 <pwhalen> #info Please test and report any issues to the list or #fedora-arm.
15:25:16 <pwhalen> #topic 4) ==== F25 Beta ====
15:25:27 <pwhalen> #info Released Today for ARM and AArch64!
15:25:46 <pwhalen> #info Raspberry Pi 2/3 support now included.
15:26:03 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F25/Installation
15:26:04 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
15:26:56 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/AArch64/F25/Installation
15:27:19 <pwhalen> please review and edit as needed
15:29:06 <pwhalen> #topic 5) == Open Floor ==
15:29:33 * rric noticed that rpm builds are limited to 16 cores only (-j 16)
15:29:49 <rric> which is due to rpm macro settings
15:29:50 <hrw-mobile> nice work on r/pi support
15:30:10 <rric> I have a patch for the redhat-rpm-config package
15:30:24 <hrw-mobile> rric: open a bug?
15:30:47 <rric> ok, and attach the patch there?
15:30:54 <cov> I'd suggest adding a PCI column to the hardware support status matrix
15:31:10 <jonmasters> rric: it's been 16 for a long time
15:31:13 * hrw-mobile has to go
15:31:18 <pwhalen> cov, ok will do.
15:31:24 <jlinton> cov: ok i'm doing that..
15:31:30 <jlinton> ok i'm not doing that
15:31:35 <jonmasters> rric: reason always was that some packages years ago had problems if you did a -j<larger than 16>
15:31:35 <rric> jonmasters, yes since RHEL6
15:31:46 <jonmasters> yeah, I tried to bump it one time
15:32:10 <jonmasters> so I recommend you post on devel@ or ping RPM guys via a BZ and get insight on current thinking
15:32:22 <jlinton> cov: Its a wiki right, just update it, I don't think anyone has reverted any of my changes..
15:32:28 <jlinton> yet.
15:32:57 <jonmasters> rric: but it's a good idea to try to change to <number of real cores * 2> or whatever metric
15:32:59 <pwhalen> jlinton, no one will. thanks for adding them
15:33:02 <cov> I can add the column but I have no results to populate it with
15:33:11 <rric> jonmasters, quickfix:
15:33:14 <rric> # grep _smp_ncpus_max ~/.rpmmacros
15:33:14 <rric> %_smp_ncpus_max 0
15:33:19 <jonmasters> yup :)
15:33:39 <jlinton> yah, I think individual people just update the rows when they test, thats what i've been doing with juno
15:33:54 <jonmasters> I've been known to do this - but run it through the Fedora devel folks because you might well find some packages are still not happy with greater than -j16
15:34:03 <rric> but at least for arm64 this should be >16
15:35:06 * rric will open a BZ for this
15:35:55 <pwhalen> thanks rric
15:36:12 <jonmasters> tnx
15:36:42 <jonmasters> rric: make sure you point to this discussion, and note that it should be some calculated value not a hardcoded one - if we're gonna change it, let's do it right :)
15:38:04 <pwhalen> anything else for open floor ?
15:39:18 <pwhalen> #endmeeting