15:00:19 #startmeeting Fedora ARM and AArch64 Status Meeting 15:00:19 Meeting started Tue Oct 18 15:00:19 2016 UTC. The chair is pwhalen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:19 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_arm_and_aarch64_status_meeting' 15:00:19 #chair pwhalen pbrobinson dgilmore hrw dmarlin yselkowitz jonmasters ahs3 msalter 15:00:19 Current chairs: ahs3 dgilmore dmarlin hrw jonmasters msalter pbrobinson pwhalen yselkowitz 15:00:29 morning folks, whos here? 15:01:04 * pbrobinson o/ 15:02:04 pwhalen: lets get this done while everyone else isn't here ;-) 15:02:13 heh 15:02:33 #topic 1) ==== Userspace Status ==== 15:03:16 i think we're looking pretty good here, anyone aware of any issues? 15:05:59 so mono 4.6 was boostrapped and done in F-26/rawhide last week 15:06:25 I also fixed up a bunch of the matplotlib leftovers so I think that's all good as well 15:06:50 #info Mono 4.6 was boostrapped in F-26/rawhide last week. 15:07:50 that was the biggest block left over from the merge, there's a few other stragglers but nothing large in terms of pure packages 15:08:03 if anyone wants a couple of small projects let me know 15:08:58 cool, anyone have anything else to mention? 15:09:19 #topic 2) ==== Kernel Status ==== 15:09:31 #info Latest Rawhide - kernel-4.9.0-0.rc1.git0.2.fc26 15:09:31 #link http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=810642 15:09:46 #info Please test and report any issues to the list or #fedora-arm. 15:10:26 4.8.2 is built for Fedora 25 too, please test as that should be the one headed to stable releases shortly 15:11:19 #info Latest F25 kernel - kernel-4.8.2-300.fc25 15:11:30 #link http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=810665 15:13:06 any kernel issues to mention? 15:13:53 none off hand from my PoV but this is normally when testers pop their head up 15:15:01 no issues thus far here. 15:15:17 #topic 3) ==== Bootloader Status ==== 15:16:27 so 2016.11rc2 landed upstream but it's got issues with openssl 1.1, I've reported it upstream 15:16:36 that's about it from my PoV 15:17:07 #info Latest - uboot-tools-2016.11-0.1.rc1.fc26 15:17:13 #link http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=808089 15:17:44 sorry to bring up a kernel question late, but is CPPC enabled? we may want to turn that off due to upstream problems 15:17:56 working well here, also fixes the ext4 /boot partition issue 15:19:48 ahs3: yes, it is, the APM people were testing it, but that was back in 4.7.x I think 15:20:29 ahs3: but I think that was internal firmware or something, any particular kernels it should be turned off on? 15:21:43 pbrobinson: any arm64; upstream has already found 3 bugs in 4.8 15:22:15 ahs3, is this related to 1372408 ? 15:22:56 lemme look 15:24:20 that's one of them; there are some basic arithmetic errors in the calculations, too 15:26:01 anything else for bootloaders? 15:26:11 ahs3: is that purely the ACPI_CPPC_CPUFREQ option, or are there others we should disable too? 15:26:11 So in a nutshell disable aarch64 performance governors for now, try again with future kernel? 15:26:44 yeah, that would be my recommendation 15:26:54 * pbrobinson slaps masta with a wet fish for using the marketing term nutshell 15:27:13 ahs3++ awesome thanks, will push that shortly 15:27:13 pbrobinson: Karma for ahs3 changed to 1 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:27:14 oh man, now I smell fishy 15:27:35 masta: no further comment needed ;-) 15:28:00 #topic 4) ==== F25 Final ==== 15:28:17 #info Testing so far: 15:28:17 #info ARMhfp - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_25_Branched_20161017.n.0_Summary 15:28:17 #info AArch64 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/AArch64/QA/Fedora-25-20161017.0 15:28:50 #info Please test and add results to the wiki. 15:29:05 looks good so far 15:29:29 So for final I'm still planning on getting some form of Pine64 support and disk images working. I'm hoping I should have some cycles late this week to focus on that 15:29:38 #info Fedora 25 Schedule: 15:29:38 #info 2016-11-01 - Final Freeze 15:29:39 #info 2016-11-15 - Final Release 15:30:02 pwhalen, your test matrix is a thing of beauty. Seriously, that is well organized table setup. 15:30:33 Its not F25 related, so much as the linaro 16.9 firmware for juno, seems to have problems booting from USB devices (and likely PXE from the PCIe nic)... 15:30:34 yea, not mine, likely Adam did it 15:31:01 So, that causes problems if anyone else tries to install F25 on it. 15:31:23 jlinton: thanks for the heads up 15:32:26 pbrobinson, does the pine64 have any special needs for the disk image? 15:32:41 masta: what do you mean? 15:33:15 well some boards look for a loader at specific byte offset of the disk, stuff like that 15:33:48 * masta just wondering if pine64 is *special* in some way 15:33:50 masta: yes, it's the standard combo of AllWinner plus aarch64 trusted boot requirements 15:34:18 cool 15:34:19 masta: so it's a little different to standard allwinner but in a standard ARMv8 difference 15:35:15 #topic 5) == Open Floor == 15:35:32 I think thats all we had for this week, anyone have anything for open floor? 15:35:58 who here is getting one of the aarch64 laptops ? 15:36:34 masta: which ones? I've ordered the kickstarter one based on the A64 SoC (same as pine64) 15:36:52 do you mean the announced Chromebooks though? 15:37:34 pbrobinson, oh cool, I don't even know what that is... but I want one now that I'm aware. I was not being clear, I was implying aarch64 chromebook/android laptops 15:38:20 so yeah, chromebooks 15:38:55 masta: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hybrxpc/ultra-slim-laptop-with-android-51-os-and-remix-os 15:39:41 pbrobinson, thank you! 15:40:28 cool, looks like you can expect yours soon pbrobinson.. let us know how it is 15:40:29 ok, well I'm going to see about exploring the fedora aarch64 workstation story. 15:40:35 masta: I would like to have some coordination (I know imcleod is doing a bunch) of getting any changes needed into Fedora for the chromebooks so standard images etc can be used 15:41:10 I know at least the exynos chromebooks can now boot a vanilla Fedora kernel except I need to do a patch around the MMC module 15:41:53 pbrobinson, yes, coordination. 15:42:36 masta: I know also the tegra ones we can write a u-boot for chaining into the "legacy" area so then should be able to boot a normal OS. It needs to be wrapped as a FIT image ec 15:42:37 etc 15:43:17 yeah, I both love and hate the FIT image format 15:44:25 ok, well I just wanted to gauge who is going to be having what aarch64 laptops, I'm goign to get as many as I can afford 15:44:41 so we should be able to produce that as part of the u-boot process for each device so that the end users wouldn't have to mess with generating that bit 15:44:55 pbrobinson, that is a good idea 15:45:15 actually, that is a great idea. 15:45:42 masta: I have lots of bad ones for each good one ;-) 15:45:44 in theory we could generate just one FIT image for all the devices 15:46:18 masta: the idea would be that they can then grab the FIT image and write it to the legacy ROM and then boot direct from a SD card or usb stick 15:47:13 pbrobinson, or chain boot the FIT image 15:47:14 masta: well given we produce one u-boot for each device I'd just do a FIT image per device. I'm not sure how much space on the legacy bit we have and a single image would get large/complex quickly 15:47:33 pbrobinson, true 15:47:46 keep it simple 15:48:15 okay folks, eof 15:48:29 anything else for open floor? 15:49:37 #endmeeting