23:01:06 <athos> #startmeeting Fedora Ambassadors Latam meeting 2016-11-05
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23:01:21 <athos> #meetingname fedora-latam
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23:01:32 <athos> #topic Roll Call
23:01:43 <athos> .hello athos
23:01:44 <zodbot> athos: athos 'S D Barnes' <september@creyrdesign.com>
23:01:49 * athos Brazil
23:02:14 <athos> .hello athoscr
23:02:15 <zodbot> athos: athoscr 'Athos Ribeiro' <athoscribeiro@gmail.com>
23:02:19 <athos> ops :)
23:02:52 <yosef7> .hello josereyesjdi
23:02:53 <zodbot> yosef7: josereyesjdi 'Jose Reyes' <josereyes.jdi@gmail.com>
23:03:12 <itamarjp> .hello  itamarjp
23:03:13 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
23:03:16 * itamarjp Brazil
23:03:18 <aaamourao> .hello aaamourao
23:03:19 <zodbot> aaamourao: aaamourao 'Adriano de Araujo Abreu Mourao' <adrianomourao@protonmail.com>
23:03:26 <fredlima> .hello fredlima
23:03:27 <zodbot> fredlima: fredlima 'Frederico Henrique Gonçalves Lima' <fred@fredericolima.com.br>
23:03:35 * fredlima Brazil
23:03:36 <porfirio> .hello porfiriopaiz
23:03:37 <zodbot> porfirio: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco' <porfiriopaiz@gmail.com>
23:03:54 * porfirio from Managua, Nicaragua
23:03:55 <rosset> .hello filiperosset
23:03:56 <zodbot> rosset: filiperosset 'Filipe Rosset' <rosset.filipe@gmail.com>
23:04:23 <rosset> .fasinfo filiperosset
23:04:24 <zodbot> rosset: User: filiperosset, Name: Filipe Rosset, email: rosset.filipe@gmail.com, Creation: 2008-10-30, IRC Nick: rosset, Timezone: America/Sao_Paulo, Locale: pt_BR, GPG key ID: F47674A0, Status: active
23:04:27 <zodbot> rosset: Approved Groups: packager cla_fedora cla_done ambassadors fedorabugs proventesters cla_fpca provenpackager fedora-br cvsl10n
23:05:46 <potty> .hello potty
23:05:47 <zodbot> potty: potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' <abdel.g.martinez.l@gmail.com>
23:06:13 <athos> #chair potty
23:06:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: athos potty
23:06:24 <potty> !
23:06:34 <athos> go on potty
23:07:04 <potty> I want to propose a topic: LATAM budget status
23:07:22 <athos> that's awesome! :) thanks btw :)
23:07:35 <athos> #topic LATAM budget status
23:08:47 <potty> First things first.
23:09:03 <potty> Remember we have FY17 budget, which is 11950 USD.
23:09:42 <potty> So far we have spent 3360.44 USD.
23:10:03 <potty> The latest ticket I'm considering on this number is #361.
23:10:27 <potty> By simple arithmetics, we have available 8589.56 USD.
23:10:45 <potty> Right now, do anyone got any questions?
23:11:19 <athos> !
23:11:29 <athos> when will FY17 end?
23:12:34 <potty> athos: Q4 is from December 2016 - February 2017
23:12:52 <potty> February 2017 is the deadline
23:13:13 <potty> By that time we should have decided and proposed FY18 budget.
23:13:21 <potty> Any other question?
23:13:24 <athos> !
23:13:29 <potty> go ahead athos
23:13:40 * itamarjp thinks that We need fast reimbursement's to spend more money
23:13:59 <potty> itamarjp: thank you for your feedback
23:14:36 <yulytas> !
23:14:56 <potty> yulytas: go ahead after athos
23:15:03 <athos> I propose we divide the remaining of the budget by the number of countries we have punded by the number of countries in each country and spend it all in swag
23:15:31 <athos> we will probably start having better quality swag in latam instead of bad quality stickers
23:15:40 <yulytas> Hi potty and guys, could you please send the link to propose the budget for 2017 and 2018. I regularly do 2 or 3 event per year
23:15:44 <athos> AND RH won't reduce our budget
23:15:49 <athos> any thoughts?
23:15:51 <itamarjp> last year I told to FPL that we don't need more money, We just need the same amount of money with faster reimbursements
23:15:55 <potty> yulytas: let me response first athos then go to you
23:15:57 <alyaj2a> .fas alyaj2a
23:15:57 <zodbot> alyaj2a: alyaj2a 'Aly Yuliza Machaca Mamani' <alyaj2a@gmail.com>
23:16:07 <yulytas> ok, thanks
23:16:19 <potty> athos: it is a good idea but still have to consider if we have any other events on the remaining of the FY17
23:16:35 <athos> s/punded/considering/
23:17:04 <athos> we are in november potty.... we spent less than 1/3 of our budget
23:17:15 <potty> btw people can still ask for the swag, just make the quotation, open the ticket, get approved, buy and then get reimbursed
23:17:18 <athos> if we can't spend it, then I agree with cutting it
23:17:26 <potty> athos: this is a recurrent problem
23:17:31 <potty> let's make an action on this
23:17:37 <potty> one person from each country
23:17:40 <potty> should create a ticket
23:17:42 <potty> with a quotation
23:17:50 <potty> for swag to be used on their country
23:17:56 <potty> deadline next week
23:17:59 <potty> sounds good, athos ?
23:18:04 <itamarjp> no one will do that because we have to pay in advance and wait a long line to get reimbursed.
23:18:06 <athos> potty++
23:18:19 <athos> I agree potty
23:18:29 <potty> thank you athos
23:18:41 <potty> itamarjp: i'm sorry for this situation but right now is the way it works
23:18:49 <potty> itamarjp: i'm sure there will be changes in the future
23:19:02 <potty> itamarjp: but today it is like that and we have to go along with it
23:19:37 <potty> yulytas: as i understand from your question, you need FY18 link?
23:19:39 <athos> I have one last thing
23:19:42 <athos> to say
23:19:52 <potty> athos: let me finish with yulytas then go with you
23:20:04 <athos> guys: don't be shy on asking for budget to do Fedora related things
23:20:06 <yulytas> yes please, just the link to propose
23:20:07 <athos> please
23:20:13 <yosef7> potty. athos: great idea
23:20:23 <potty> yulytas: right now there is no link. Actually the information related to the budget will be available here: https://budget.fedoraproject.org
23:20:28 <athos> in noth america sometimes they ask for 2000 dollars to make fedora DVDs
23:20:33 <yulytas> ok, thanks
23:20:34 <potty> yulytas: but, we can still have a link on the wiki
23:20:38 <athos> ASK
23:20:50 <potty> yulytas: as usual (example: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Budget:2017)
23:20:51 <athos> if we can't make it, we will let you know
23:20:51 <zodiacfireworks> Hello
23:21:06 <athos> yulytas: wait for your turn please
23:21:10 <potty> yosef7: btw it is not updated
23:21:17 <potty> athos: go ahead
23:21:50 <potty> which was your other question?
23:22:04 <potty> s/yosef7/yulytas
23:22:05 <athos> that's all... we will keep having our budget cut.... and we neet more LATAM related fedora events...
23:22:16 <athos> ppl in brazil barely know fedora
23:22:29 <athos> they know Ubuntu and Debian....
23:22:30 <potty> athos: Yes. As I mentioned before, this is the recurrent problem
23:22:35 <athos> :(
23:22:38 <potty> The way to solve this is with more events.
23:22:44 <potty> Hosting them or participating
23:22:45 <athos> exactly
23:22:47 <potty> I know Brazil
23:22:52 <potty> Is a great place were you people
23:22:57 <potty> always try to participate on events
23:23:03 <potty> but your unique effort is not sufficient
23:23:10 <potty> we have to encourage other countries
23:23:16 <athos> so let's go on and participate more, ask for budget! WE DO HAVE IT!!!!
23:23:18 <potty> for example: here in Panama we are having events
23:23:18 <porfirio> potty> The way to solve this is with more events. <--- This!
23:23:33 <potty> but yosef7 does not create tickets
23:23:36 <athos> porfirio++
23:23:36 <zodbot> athos: Karma for porfiriopaiz changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:23:39 <potty> so things like this
23:23:41 <potty> we have to learn
23:23:44 <potty> and move on
23:23:45 <potty> :)
23:23:47 <athos> yes
23:23:49 <athos> eof
23:23:54 <rosset> !
23:23:55 <potty> we still have a few months before FY17 is over
23:23:58 <sr_kraken_m> .fas srkraken
23:23:59 <zodbot> sr_kraken_m: srkraken 'Efren Antonio Robledo Moreno' <efren.a.rm@gmail.com>
23:24:06 <potty> rosset: go ahead
23:24:25 <rosset> last year I proposed to made more FADs here in Brazil
23:24:27 <rosset> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_-_FAD
23:25:00 <rosset> maybe, for the next year it's a good opportunity to expand our users base here :)
23:25:02 <yulytas> it is a good idea to have a day of FEDORA! I want to do that too here in Lima in universities :)
23:25:03 <rosset> eof
23:25:06 <aaamourao> !
23:25:15 <rosset> yulytas, thats the idea :)
23:25:16 <potty> rosset: thank you
23:25:22 <potty> sounds good
23:25:35 <athos> rosset:
23:25:49 <athos> you can do that for F25 release parties
23:25:53 <athos> please, do that :)
23:26:04 <mayorga> FADs have a separate budget, AFAIK.
23:26:06 <athos> as I said: we have budget and we are NOT using it
23:26:07 <potty> just remember that FAD are approved by the Council
23:26:14 <potty> Not by us
23:26:18 <athos> oh
23:26:25 <athos> so make that non FAD days :)
23:26:35 <potty> as athos mentioned we should focus on participate and organizing events
23:26:46 <potty> things like yulytas is making
23:26:47 <itamarjp> potty, small events
23:26:50 <porfirio> !
23:27:12 <yulytas> thanks potty for recognising it :p
23:27:21 <potty> itamarjp: correct
23:27:36 <rosset> ok, small events instead of call it FAD, sounds good to me.
23:28:00 <rosset> small hackatons, sprints to fix something, etc
23:28:02 <rosset> eof
23:28:09 <potty> rosset: that's correct
23:28:11 <potty> porfirio: go ahead
23:28:22 <potty> sorry porfirio, first is aaamourao
23:28:27 <potty> then is you porfirio
23:28:34 <aaamourao> thx, potty
23:28:39 <potty> welcome
23:28:42 <yosef7> potty: bad practice. sorry.
23:28:48 <yosef7> Hare los ticket. =)
23:28:59 <lorddemon> .fas  lorddemon
23:29:00 <zodbot> lorddemon: lorddemon 'Gonzalo Nina Mamani' <g.nina.m@gmail.com>
23:29:08 * lorddemon Saluda desde Bolivia
23:29:23 <aaamourao> I would recommend to participate to general Open Source related events. It would bring ppl that have never heard about Fedora to contribute to it
23:29:58 <potty> aaamourao: correct. Sometimes we do participate but do not fill tickets. That's a problem too.
23:30:06 <aaamourao> Fedora only events will only reach ppl that already know fedora. it is good after it is known on the region
23:30:07 <yulytas> I will participate at UTP next Friday to install FEDORA
23:30:23 <aaamourao> eof
23:30:33 <yulytas> could you please tell me when is the release F25, I did download and it is still F24
23:30:56 <potty> yulytas: wait
23:30:58 <potty> aaamourao: thank you
23:31:01 <potty> go ahead porfirio
23:31:01 <athos> aaamourao: yes
23:31:05 <yulytas> ok potty
23:31:05 <porfirio> Is it possible to sponsor Fedora Contributors for attending to FUDCons with the Fedora LATAM budget?, This would have been so useful and we could avoided all the flame during FUDCon LATAM organizing.
23:31:13 <athos> aaamourao: let us know about those events, we will be present
23:31:43 <porfirio> I think, should organize FAD's, FAD brings new contributors into real action for the fedora project.
23:31:44 <potty> porfirio: it is always feasible
23:31:54 <athos> porfirio: budget will never be enough for bringing everybody.... :(
23:32:15 <potty> porfirio: FAD are a step, maybe not the first step but after organizing smaller events and involving people into subprojects we can then think of FAD
23:32:16 <aaamourao> athos: there are small ones on UFMG, I will bring the dates on the next meeting
23:32:32 <potty> porfirio: remember FAD are approved by Council and uses another budget different from us.
23:32:37 <athos> the right thing to do is: let's spread the word about fedora! make it's name in latam and have our budget increased instead of cut :)
23:32:46 <fredlima> !
23:32:50 <porfirio> I right, got it. EOF
23:32:57 <potty> thank you porfirio
23:33:04 <potty> do anyone want the word?
23:33:07 <potty> remmeber to !
23:33:10 <potty> fredlima: go ahead
23:33:26 <rosset> yulytas, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule
23:33:35 <yosef7> yulytas: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule
23:34:02 <yulytas> perfect russet and yosef, thanks!
23:34:37 <potty> fredlima: it is your turn
23:34:38 <fredlima> We have to reach places where fedora is not known, like North of Brazil. Almost all ambassadors goes to the rich side of Brazil. The south
23:34:55 <athos> yes
23:34:57 <potty> fredlima: do we have someone in the north part of Brazil?
23:35:04 <athos> no porfirio
23:35:08 <athos> no potty
23:35:10 <athos> :(
23:35:10 <fredlima> We have to stop going only on the same events
23:35:19 <athos> no formal contributors
23:35:24 <itamarjp> athos,  we have some,
23:35:25 <athos> we do have ppl on telegram though
23:35:41 <athos> we can have events there
23:35:49 <aaamourao> fredlime: indeed, I agree
23:35:51 <athos> we just need to stop being shy asking for budget
23:35:55 <fredlima> I'm living on the middle east
23:36:09 <potty> so the action here is to start with some introductory event on those regions, budget will handle it
23:36:15 <athos> remember. this whole year we spent 1/3 of the budget!
23:36:20 <potty> athos, itamarjp: may you do the work?
23:36:28 <fredlima> None Fedora events since I came
23:36:30 <mayorga> !
23:36:36 <athos> yes potty
23:36:46 <fredlima> Eof
23:37:03 <athos> I will also get ppl like fredlima to go on and go to more events!
23:37:05 <athos> :)
23:37:08 <athos> go on mayorga
23:37:10 <athos> :)
23:37:18 <mayorga> I do not think the problem is being shy, but having to pay in advance. It's not always easy to do it!
23:37:34 <athos> mayorga++
23:37:34 <zodbot> athos: Karma for mayorga changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:37:42 <mayorga> So, we have to figure out how to improve the process.
23:37:42 <athos> :( solutions mayorga?
23:37:43 <mayorga> EOF
23:37:55 <porfirio> mayorga++
23:37:55 <zodbot> porfirio: Karma for mayorga changed to 7 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:38:22 <mayorga> I have this idea‌: produce all the swag in one place, and then send it to other LATAM countries.
23:38:31 <potty> mayorga: from my pov it is very difficult to change the process to have in advance payments, we are not the only region facing that
23:38:36 <mayorga> It's even cheaper.
23:38:39 <potty> mayorga: sounds like an old idea we always have
23:38:41 <potty> but never execute
23:38:56 <rosset> what about import/export taxes?
23:39:02 <athos> that will be not possible this year, but we can produce swag for each country by the end of FY... let's do this!
23:39:02 <potty> what would be the difference?
23:39:09 <potty> we have to consider some stuff
23:39:16 <potty> first from which country we will produce swag
23:39:19 <athos> rosset: we can do it in each country
23:39:20 <rosset> sometimes there are problems to send/receive material to/for other countries
23:39:26 <potty> secondly how will you send send
23:39:29 <potty> taxes
23:39:36 <potty> and those stuff
23:39:58 <athos> we can make swag for panama in panama, for brazil in brazil, etc
23:40:04 <athos> but once a yeat
23:40:06 <rosset> how many days to reimburse an approved ticket?
23:40:06 <potty> athos: that is the simplest wat
23:40:07 <athos> year*
23:40:10 <athos> yes!
23:40:22 <rosset> athos, yeah, got it :)
23:40:24 <potty> rosset: it depends on the availability of the card holder, in this case Neville
23:40:26 <mayorga> potty: You have a good point, yes.
23:40:30 <athos> let's say, it will be 10 or 20% more expensive, but it will be easier
23:40:35 <potty> athos: correct
23:40:42 <potty> athos: if we can handle individual requests
23:40:49 <potty> centralizing those later will be easier
23:40:57 <potty> because to choose a central country to produce
23:41:01 <potty> you have to calculate on each country
23:41:05 <potty> to see which is the cheapest
23:41:19 <potty> and to do that effort you should quote on each country
23:41:30 <potty> that is pretty the same as quoting swag for each country
23:41:36 <athos> yes.... potty can you and I talk about budget during this week? we can talk about the remaining budget and bring it to the meeting next week
23:41:38 <tonet666p> .fas tonet666p
23:41:38 <zodbot> tonet666p: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' <tonet666p@gmail.com>
23:41:41 <potty> rosset: should be within the month frame
23:41:44 <athos> we need to move on with the meeting
23:41:47 * tonet666p from Peru
23:41:54 <potty> athos: yes, sure
23:41:58 <potty> athos: let's move on
23:41:59 <athos> guys
23:42:03 <athos> can we move on?
23:42:07 <itamarjp> we already lost the opportunity to make the swags in Peru in a low cost, you're doing it again
23:42:09 <potty> But I think this was a sane exercise
23:42:11 <aaamourao> If people plan the Fedora events or represent fedora in an third part event 3 months before it happens, could fedora project pay in advance instead of ambassadors do it?
23:42:13 <athos> yulytas: you want to talk before we move on?
23:42:28 <itamarjp> talking about swags, and the result will be the same as of Peru.
23:42:29 <athos> no aaamourao :(
23:42:41 <yulytas> thank you athos
23:42:48 <aaamourao> athos: :(
23:42:50 <potty> aaamourao: no
23:42:58 <potty> yulytas: go ahead
23:43:03 <potty> @everyone let's move on
23:43:22 <yulytas> yes, swag is important to promote FEDORA in certain way among students
23:43:23 <athos> let yulytas talk potty, before we move to the next toppic
23:43:36 <yulytas> just that
23:43:54 <athos> ok
23:43:59 <athos> can I move on?
23:44:05 <potty> yes
23:44:10 <athos> anyone else on this topic?
23:44:18 * potty will be afk
23:44:29 <athos> #topic Migration from Trac to Pagure
23:44:31 <mayorga> Yes.
23:44:34 <athos> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/365
23:45:22 <athos> We talked about this last week
23:45:34 <athos> and we decided to talk about it today
23:45:53 <athos> I actually thought we would spend the meeting talking about it
23:46:08 <athos> but we spent it on the other (more important) ticket
23:46:33 <athos> I did prepare for this meeting
23:46:53 <athos> I evaluated Trac and the way we have been using it
23:46:59 <athos> please see http://paste.fedoraproject.org/472097/78389501/
23:47:14 <athos> and I have a really important question here
23:47:40 <athos> are the tags in trac important, or you just don't use them at all?
23:47:52 <athos> as I see, we do not use most of them....
23:48:08 <athos> the only important thing there is the "meeting" keyword....
23:48:34 <athos> and if this is true, we can just migrate to Pagure and not worry about anything
23:49:10 <athos> eof
23:49:12 <athos> thoughts?
23:50:11 <rosset> maybe migrate data from Trac to Pagure to keep all the historic data
23:50:30 <rosset> it's supported, according to https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedorahosted-sunset-2017-02-28/
23:51:04 <athos> yes rosset :)
23:51:17 <athos> please read the last meeting log...
23:51:32 <athos> we are ready for that
23:51:47 <athos> my question is: do we need all the tags we had in Trac?
23:52:28 <tonet666p> i think we never used all tags
23:52:54 <athos> exactly tonet666p
23:53:06 <tonet666p> if you read the tickets, there are some ttags
23:53:16 <tonet666p> not all
23:53:39 <athos> question is: jflory7 is migrating famna trac on sunday
23:53:44 <athos> should we do the same?
23:54:13 <porfirio> If using tags add more readabily and order to handling tickets, we should start using them.
23:54:18 <rosset> yes... we can migrate to Pagure test instance first, if everything is ok, them migrate our production
23:54:35 <rosset> Pagure Test Instance => https://stg.pagure.io/
23:55:04 <athos> thats staging rosset. but I agree with you
23:55:24 <athos> we move all our tickets there and tags
23:55:29 <rosset> yeah, stage, but for test purposes :P
23:55:34 <athos> and in the future we discuss removing some of the tags
23:55:50 <athos> (we do not use all of them at all)
23:55:50 <rosset> Question: I want to test things out, but not migrate yet, how can I do that?
23:55:50 <rosset> Answer: We have a Pagure test instance you are welcome to create projects on and test importing data. Note that from time to time we clear out this instance, so do not use it for any long-term use.
23:56:20 <porfirio> Or documenting how to properly use it and ask to people open tickets to stay close to the guidelines.
23:56:44 <athos> getting back to track
23:57:07 <athos> can potty and I move to LATAM trac to pagure?
23:57:28 <athos> is there anyone against it?
23:57:35 <athos> please vote
23:57:39 <athos> +1 here
23:57:42 <porfirio> +1
23:57:51 <anamativi> +1
23:57:55 <fredlima> +1
23:57:59 <rosset> no, go ahead, but wrote an announcement to keep everyone aware
23:58:00 <rosset> +1
23:58:14 <athos> rosset++
23:58:14 <zodbot> athos: Karma for filiperosset changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:58:16 <yosef7> +1
23:58:20 <aaamourao> +1
23:59:23 <athos> anyone else?
23:59:45 <itamarjp> +1
00:00:06 <athos> #agreed LATAM is migrating from Trac to Pagure with FAmNA. we will talk about tags later.
00:00:15 <fredlima> !
00:00:21 <yulytas> !
00:00:38 <athos> go on fredlima
00:01:03 <fredlima> Can we take a look at ana mativi ticket before we end this meeting?
00:01:06 <fredlima> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/368
00:01:18 <athos> this is the next topic
00:01:22 <athos> go on yulytas
00:01:26 <fredlima> OK tnx
00:01:56 <yulytas> thanks athos, then could you please check my ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/364#comment:2
00:02:48 <athos> ok
00:03:02 <yulytas> thanks
00:04:00 <athos> I cannot access it here, can anyone put it in a few word here?
00:04:21 <athos> yulytas, fredlima
00:04:31 <yulytas> yes athos
00:05:00 <yulytas> The ticket is about to promote FEDORA use and contribution
00:05:01 <fredlima> Ana, can you say?
00:05:15 <yulytas> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuXatUNI
00:05:29 <athos> I know the ticket yulytas
00:05:35 <athos> what is the comment about?
00:05:41 <athos> sorry I cannot open it here
00:05:43 <yulytas> some FEDORA ppl like echevemaster neville, aly and tone will talk about contribution in FEDORA
00:05:50 <athos> yes
00:05:54 <rosset> The "Linux en la UNI" event will be held at Auditorium X of UNI (National University of Engineering) on November Y. The purpose of the event is to promove the use of FEDORA 25 and introduce new potential contributors to the free software renowed worldwide project such as FEDORA, which has impact in more than 166 countries. The audience is focused basically to students but not restricted to others.
00:05:54 <rosset> The agenda is as follows:
00:05:54 <rosset> Kiara from Panama to introduce to the Fedora ARM team (coordinated at FUDCON) Echevemaster from Colombia to start in FEDORA (coordinated at FUDCON) Johan Gaterol from Colombia to contribute with Python (coordinated at FUDCON) Eduardo Mayorga from Nicaragua to start in the documentation team (coordinated at FUDCON) Bernardo y/o Tonet from PERU to start contributions in FEDORA (coordinated at FUDCON)
00:05:58 <rosset> Costs 500 DVD FEDORA with envelop $232 02 Banners of the Event & metal support & case $150 100 A3 posters of the event $40 12 Tshirts for volunteers $48 250 FEDORA stickers 4F & FEDORA in blue $180 Flight Tonet $150 Flight Aly $150
00:06:05 <rosset> total = $950
00:06:13 <athos> oh
00:06:14 <athos> I see
00:06:16 <yulytas> there is a budget to be approved, yes rosset
00:06:22 <athos> you want to vote on it yulytas?
00:06:28 <potty> +1
00:06:31 <yulytas> we are going to have in person Tonet and Aly
00:06:55 <rosset> +1
00:07:21 <itamarjp> this ticket was already voted and approved some weeks ago,
00:07:28 <athos> in my opinion, we should not vote on it tonight. yulytas, you should add the meeting tag on it... please... read ambassadors documentation... BUT I will not let's put it to vote
00:07:35 <rosset> ok, no go to next one please
00:07:36 <athos> #chair rosset
00:07:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: athos potty rosset
00:07:54 <athos> I would postpone it again...
00:08:11 <rosset> why? if there are 2 pending tickets, let's vote tonight
00:08:13 <yulytas> it was approved? thanks Itamar!
00:08:24 <athos> rosset: this is not a pending ticket
00:08:34 <itamarjp> yulytas, what do you need ?
00:08:45 <athos> rosset: she did not add a meeting tag there
00:08:47 <yulytas> to write in the ticket
00:08:58 <yulytas> that it was approved please (if you do not mind)
00:09:00 <itamarjp> someone forgot to add approved on it,
00:09:17 <yulytas> and if it possible to ask for one more speaker here?
00:09:22 <itamarjp> who are responsible to add approved tags on tickets ?
00:09:25 <athos> was it approved already?
00:09:28 <yulytas> Potty maybe you can talk ?
00:09:40 <athos> so what is the point?
00:09:56 <yulytas> because I was asking to people to talk in Spanish about technical contribution in the event
00:10:17 <athos> ok
00:10:18 <athos> so
00:10:22 <yulytas> ok, let me check now if the ticket was approved correctly, so later was not confused please
00:10:24 <athos> yulytas: what do you need?
00:10:39 <yulytas> to register the approval of the ticket in the ticket please
00:10:41 <athos> this ticket was not voted itamarjp
00:10:49 <itamarjp> was voted and approved
00:10:50 <athos> because it was confusing
00:10:57 <itamarjp> and someone missed to add approved tag on it,
00:11:00 <athos> no it was not
00:11:04 <tonet666p> itamarjp, are you sure?
00:11:13 <athos> and if it was, it had my -1
00:11:19 <itamarjp> lets give 15 minutes to look in previous logs
00:11:20 <tonet666p> i think we didnt aproved it
00:11:33 <athos> as I recall, we told yulitas to organie her ideas
00:11:35 <rosset> ok, in the mean time can we vote the anamativi ticket?
00:11:38 <athos> so we could approve it
00:11:41 <yulytas> it was not approved or rejected as I remember
00:11:42 <lorddemon> creo que faltaba el wiki
00:11:43 <anamativi> my ticket is approved
00:11:45 <yulytas> yes please
00:11:51 <rosset> anamativi, oh, great :)
00:11:59 <yulytas> I did the wiki as you can see here http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuXatUNI
00:12:10 <athos> guys, please, we are talking about yulytas ticket
00:12:16 <yulytas> mine is pending as it seems in the log
00:12:22 <athos> we will talk about anamativi ticket later
00:12:39 <athos> neville is not here so in the end it wont even matter :)
00:12:43 <athos> so
00:12:51 <athos> please check yulytas link
00:12:57 <rosset> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuXatUNI
00:12:57 <athos> yulytas: what is the link?
00:13:10 <athos> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuXatUNI
00:13:20 <athos> where is the budget yulytas?
00:13:31 <yulytas> I already sent it pathos, let me send it you again
00:13:37 <yulytas> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuXatUNI
00:13:44 <rosset> yeah, it's fine, agenda, people, budget, all in this link
00:13:48 <athos> ok 950 dollars?
00:13:51 <athos> +1 here
00:13:57 <yulytas> yes please, thank you athos
00:14:26 <athos> rosset:  itamarjp  fredlima  anamativi  mayorga potty
00:14:28 <athos> votes please
00:14:31 <potty> +1
00:14:36 <aaamourao> +1
00:14:39 <yosef7> +1
00:14:43 <anamativi> +1
00:14:43 <rosset> +1
00:14:47 <fredlima> +1
00:14:52 <itamarjp> +1
00:14:54 <mayorga> +1, she did her homework by creating the event wiki page.
00:15:01 <zodiacfireworks> +1
00:15:02 <athos> #agreed on LunixatUNI
00:15:06 <lorddemon> +1
00:15:14 <athos> thanks for the hard work yuli
00:15:18 <athos> yulytas:
00:15:21 <athos> :)
00:15:23 <yulytas> thank you, can I ask for mayorga and potty to talk there that day ?
00:15:30 <sr_kraken_m> +1
00:15:36 <potty> which day it is?
00:15:39 <mayorga> yulytas: Sure!
00:15:46 <yulytas> November 26th
00:15:50 <potty> yes
00:15:59 <yulytas> gracias Mayorga
00:16:04 <athos> #topic FGSL - Ana Mativi ticket
00:16:10 <zodiacfireworks> the future web page for the event is linuxatuni.com
00:16:13 <yulytas> I wil send you later a mail with the invitation
00:16:27 <athos> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/368
00:16:38 <anamativi> Ok this ticket was approved last saturday
00:16:44 <athos> potty: you said neville was going to be here
00:16:54 <athos> we need someone to buy those tickets
00:16:58 <athos> how to proceed
00:17:07 <athos> @everybody: read the ticket
00:17:10 <athos> and the email
00:17:21 <athos> anamativi needs someone to buy her tickets
00:17:40 <rosset> it was approved 7 days ago
00:17:48 <athos> yes rosset
00:17:50 <potty> athos: i will ping Neville
00:17:52 <anamativi> before the vote I talked about the situation, either ways it was approved, the event is in 2 weeks
00:17:56 <athos> this is not approving the ticket
00:18:05 <athos> we want someone to buy the tickets in advance
00:18:10 <rosset> neville is aware... so... he need to buy the tickets right?
00:18:25 <athos> if neville wont buy the tickets, she will not attend
00:18:30 <potty> deadline athos ?
00:18:33 <athos> yes rosset
00:18:41 <athos> deadline is november 17th potty
00:18:47 <potty> let me talk to him asap
00:18:49 <rosset> potty, asap... flight can increase the price in next days...
00:18:51 <athos> but then it will cost 500 dollars
00:18:57 <potty> of course
00:18:57 <athos> :(
00:18:58 <rosset> s/can/will
00:18:58 <rosset> rs
00:18:58 <potty> ok
00:19:18 <athos> we need it asap
00:19:27 <athos> I did not agree with itamarjp before
00:19:47 <athos> but if neville is not able to attend meetings, potty should be the card holder
00:19:49 <anamativi> We didnt talk about this last week, but we'll hold a release party in the event as well! So 2 events in one
00:20:02 <athos> I am saying this for records :)
00:20:05 <itamarjp> athos, we should make an election for new cardholder,
00:20:14 <itamarjp> athos, I disagree nomitating potty as a cardholder,
00:20:24 <potty> itamarjp: cardholder is not something to propose or elected
00:20:27 <potty> it is choose by RH
00:20:31 <potty> one per region
00:20:37 <potty> so is useless to have that "voting"
00:20:38 <potty> we can choose
00:20:44 <potty> treasurer, logistician and storyteller
00:20:45 <itamarjp> I need to tell RH that we need a new one,
00:20:55 <potty> itamarjp: be my host
00:20:57 <athos> guys
00:21:12 <athos> all I am saying is that IF neville is not available
00:21:12 <potty> but afaik the only one that can propose a new cardholder is Neville himself
00:21:16 <potty> no other
00:21:19 <potty> athos: he is
00:21:22 <athos> someone alse should be cardholder
00:21:29 <potty> but do you ping him enough?
00:21:31 <itamarjp> last time I did and I was alone,
00:21:42 <potty> itamarjp: well sorry about that
00:21:44 <potty> let's move on
00:21:47 <potty> on the important things
00:21:52 <athos> potty: I sent an email a few days ago, no answer...
00:22:03 <potty> "Telegram" group?
00:22:18 <athos> IMHO: you (potty) should be card holder
00:22:30 <porfirio> <athos> but if neville is not able to attend meetings, potty should be the card holder <--- athos++
00:22:31 <zodbot> porfirio: Karma for athoscr changed to 6 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
00:22:39 <athos> Telegram is not official fedora communication mean
00:22:45 <itamarjp> who wanna to join me and ask for new cardholder, send me a private message,
00:22:45 <potty> mailing list?
00:22:48 <mayorga> Oh boy. Telegram, seriously?
00:22:57 <athos> potty: yes
00:23:05 <potty> people
00:23:05 <potty> relax
00:23:10 <potty> just let's ping him
00:23:13 <athos> the email I sent you an neville had email list cced potty
00:23:17 <rosset> itamarjp, let's wait, neville shold be a bit more proactive
00:23:23 <athos> yes
00:23:26 <potty> let's not punish people here
00:23:28 <potty> that's unfair
00:23:31 <athos> neville is probably just busy
00:23:32 <athos> :)
00:23:32 <rosset> potty, go ahead please, we need to fix these ticket issues asap :)
00:23:37 <potty> athos: correct
00:23:46 <potty> as all people here, right?
00:23:52 <athos> yes :)
00:23:53 <potty> everyone got their duties, everyone is busy
00:23:57 <potty> so be patient
00:24:03 <potty> be pushy
00:24:07 <potty> ask for your things
00:24:13 <potty> and lets move on
00:24:20 <athos> ok
00:24:28 <athos> question:
00:24:37 <athos> how should we proceed wit anamativi ticket?
00:24:45 <athos> we need those purchased asap
00:24:56 <potty> athos: i will comunicate with neville
00:25:02 <potty> call him if necessary
00:25:05 <potty> how much is the amount?
00:25:10 <athos> anamativi
00:25:12 <athos> ^
00:25:13 <athos> ?
00:25:28 <anamativi> i put 394 for ticketsin the ticket
00:26:41 <potty> ok
00:26:54 <potty> #action potty to ping Neville to buy anamativi ticket asap
00:26:56 <potty> move on
00:27:05 <athos> ok
00:27:08 <fredlima> !
00:27:11 <athos> that would be all
00:27:15 <athos> go on fredlima
00:27:51 <fredlima> Tnx potty, this tickets is for an event of the places I have told
00:28:08 <potty> fredlima: excellent! :)
00:28:12 <fredlima> Eof
00:28:20 <athos> #topic OpenFloor
00:28:35 <athos> does anyone have a topic they want to bring in?
00:28:49 <athos> else I will end this meeting in 2 minutes
00:29:17 <fredlima> potty++
00:29:17 <zodbot> fredlima: Karma for potty changed to 8 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
00:29:22 <athos> and I am sorry this went past 30 minutes, but it was a great meeting :)
00:29:26 <yosef7> A insistir con Neville. el respondera
00:29:28 <yosef7> =)
00:29:42 * mayorga has nothing to add.
00:29:59 <anamativi> yosef7++
00:29:59 <zodbot> anamativi: Karma for josereyesjdi changed to 2 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
00:30:09 <yosef7> anamativi++
00:30:09 <zodbot> yosef7: Karma for mativi changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
00:30:10 <aaamourao> I have nothing to add too
00:30:20 <athos> #endmeeting