19:23:51 <jkurik> #startmeeting f25-final-readiness-meeting
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19:23:53 <jkurik> #meetingtopic F25 Final Readiness Meeting
19:23:54 <jkurik> #topic Roll Call
19:23:56 <jkurik> .hello jkurik
19:24:05 <fale> .hello fale
19:24:06 <puiterwijk> .hello puiterwijk
19:24:16 <jkurik> so I hope we still have people for the readiness meeting here :)
19:24:19 <mboddu> pbrobinson, nirik thanks for the help
19:24:31 <nirik> .hello kevin
19:24:35 <mboddu> .hello mohanboddu
19:24:38 <jkurik> sorry for the delay, the Go/No-Go took a bit longer than expected
19:24:45 <mailga> .hello mailga
19:24:48 <zodbot> jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' <jkurik@redhat.com>
19:24:50 <zodbot> fale: fale 'Fabio Alessandro Locati' <fale@redhat.com>
19:24:54 <zodbot> puiterwijk: puiterwijk 'Patrick "マルタインアンドレアス" Uiterwijk' <puiterwijk@redhat.com>
19:25:00 <zodbot> nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi' <kevin@scrye.com>
19:25:03 <zodbot> mboddu: mohanboddu 'Mohan Boddu' <mboddu@bhujji.com>
19:25:05 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <g.trombini@gmail.com>
19:25:08 <Kohane> .hello Kohane
19:25:10 <potty> .hello potty
19:25:14 <zodbot> Kohane: Sorry, but you don't exist
19:25:17 <zodbot> potty: potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' <abdel.g.martinez.l@gmail.com>
19:25:23 <Kohane> .fas lailah
19:25:25 <zodbot> Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' <BHKohane@gmail.com>
19:25:46 <jkurik> #chair nirik mboddu adamw
19:25:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw jkurik mboddu nirik
19:26:07 <jkurik> #topic Purpose of this meeting
19:26:08 <jkurik> #info Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated.
19:26:10 <jkurik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings
19:26:18 <jkurik> #topic Current status
19:26:34 <robyduck> .hello robyduck
19:26:35 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
19:27:02 <adamw> .hello adamwill
19:27:02 <jkurik> #info Due to a present blocker the status of the F25 Final 1.2 compose is No-Go
19:27:03 <zodbot> adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam@redhat.com>
19:27:04 <jkurik> #info The F25 Final release slips for a week and the new expected GA is 2016-Nov-22
19:27:09 * adamw is either here or in hell, can't tell which
19:27:50 <jkurik> Even the status is No-Go, we are going to check the readiness of all the teams, to make sure we are ready to release once all the blockers are solved.
19:28:02 <jkurik> #topic Design
19:28:40 <jkurik> Mizmo has reported the following readiness status off-line:
19:28:42 <jkurik> #info last-minute refinements to the final wallpaper is in progress. The wallpaper will be delivered as 0day update.
19:28:43 <jkurik> Anyone from the Design team wants to add something or comment?
19:29:55 <jkurik> #topic Infrastructure
19:30:16 <jkurik> nirik: any issues in the Infrastructure we should be aware of ?
19:30:16 <nirik> things should be in good shape
19:30:22 <nirik> we should be all ready to go
19:30:23 <jkurik> ok, thanks
19:30:55 <jkurik> #info things should be in good shape from the Infrastructure POV and the team should be all ready to go
19:31:05 <jkurik> #topic Ambassadors
19:31:23 <jkurik> potty: finally your time :)
19:31:50 <potty> We are in good shape. Ready to go.
19:32:01 <jkurik> great, thanks
19:32:19 <jkurik> #info Ambassadors are in good shape. Ready to go.
19:32:42 <jkurik> #topic FESCo
19:33:01 <jkurik> nirik, sgallagh, dgilmore, jwb, maxamillion, jsmith, paragan, kalev, rathann: anyone of you wants to speak in the name of FESCo ?
19:33:05 <nirik> no blockers from FESCo. Everything should be ready when we are go
19:33:15 <jkurik> excellent
19:33:37 <jkurik> #info no blockers from FESCo. Everything should be ready when we are go
19:33:41 <jkurik> thanks nirik
19:33:48 <nirik> no problem
19:34:00 <jkurik> #topic Fedora Engineering Manager
19:35:00 <jkurik> I have an off-line status from stickster
19:35:01 <jkurik> stickster has surveyed his team and he has no issues or concerns with release readiness, even though we have a no-go, we are basically ready
19:35:15 <jkurik> #info stickster has surveyed his team and he has no issues or concerns with release readiness, even though we have a no-go, we are basically ready
19:35:31 <jkurik> #topic Fedora Project Leader
19:35:53 <jkurik> mattdm: any issue we should be aware of ?
19:37:44 <jkurik> ok, mattdm is probably afk for a while, so I will return back ...
19:37:47 <jkurik> #undo
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19:37:50 <jkurik> #topic Marketing
19:38:06 <jkurik> Jflory7 has reported the following status off-line:
19:38:07 <jkurik> #info Marketing is almost ready for Fedora 25 release. Final screenshots are being collected on the wiki and should be done soon. Final release announcement is drafted, but review is required by Edition WGs.
19:38:09 <jkurik> #help Edition WGs, please review the general release announcement for accuracy ASAP (*before end-of-working-day Friday*)
19:38:10 <jkurik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F25_general_release_announcement
19:38:12 <jkurik> Anyone from the Marketing team wants to add anything ?
19:38:26 <jkurik> mailga: any comment ?
19:38:42 <mailga> jkurik: I didn't checked any update in the release announcement.
19:39:04 <mailga> So what you said is right by my side.
19:39:34 <jkurik> mailga: ok, as we slip there is now more room for the review of the release announcement
19:39:40 <jkurik> thanks
19:39:51 <mailga> jkurik: yw
19:40:01 <jkurik> #topic QA
19:40:25 <jkurik> adamw: is there anything you want to raise for an awareness from the QA pov ?
19:40:34 <adamw> um
19:40:38 <adamw> no. don't think so.
19:40:48 <adamw> anyone else? tflink? kparal?
19:41:02 <adamw> oh
19:41:20 <adamw> there is this thing about gnome-software's behaviour on upgrade from F23 to F25 being undefined, that people should probably discuss
19:42:22 <jkurik> is there any bug or email thread about it ?
19:43:26 <jkurik> adamw: ^^
19:43:31 <adamw> yeah sorry
19:43:34 <adamw> was just finding it and got distracted
19:43:40 <adamw> i am extremely tired and not focusing too well
19:43:48 <adamw> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1393602
19:43:52 <jkurik> ah, sorry
19:43:53 <adamw> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774171
19:44:23 <adamw> i'm gonna start a thread on devel@ probably today about this topic in general, as we need to make some decisions about what our policy *is* so gnome-software can make a choice about what to do
19:46:19 <jkurik> #info QA is going to start a thread on devel@ about upgrade from F23 to F25 due to bug 1393602, to make sure we have an agreement on the policy
19:46:31 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1393602
19:46:38 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774171
19:46:51 <jkurik> adamw: thanks for the info
19:47:04 <jkurik> #topic Release Engineering
19:47:23 <jkurik> dgilmore, mboddu: may I ask one of you for an update, please ?
19:50:04 <jkurik> nirik: can you speak in the name on releng, or should we wait till dgilmore or mboddu are back ?
19:50:27 <nirik> sure... as far as I know everything is ready... just waiting for the next rc request from qa
19:50:37 <jkurik> ok, thanks
19:50:58 <jkurik> #infor Release engineering is ready, just waiting for the next RC request
19:51:04 <jkurik> #topic Websites
19:51:12 <jkurik> robyduck: are you still with us ?
19:51:36 <robyduck> yes I am
19:51:38 <robyduck> websites are still work in progress but we are on time for release date
19:51:48 <robyduck> we would need feedback from Cloud WG for Atomic
19:51:57 <mboddu> jkurik: just came back from lunch, we need the RC request and we will do a new RC compose, but no go for next week release
19:52:17 <robyduck> we are still sorting out the last things of FMW, which is mostly done
19:52:31 <jkurik> #info websites are still work in progress but we are on time for release date
19:52:34 <robyduck> the rest should be smooth - so, we are good to go.
19:52:44 <jkurik> #info the team is awaiting feedback from Cloud WG for Atomic
19:52:45 <dgilmore> jkurik: kinda a silly question we are not ready
19:52:55 <dgilmore> jkurik: but we are on track
19:53:43 <jkurik> #info websites are still sorting out the last things of FMW, which is mostly done
19:53:48 <jkurik> robyduck: thanks
19:54:11 <robyduck> jkurik: YW
19:55:28 <jkurik> mboddu, dgilmore: thanks for your replay
19:55:54 <jkurik> #topic Translations
19:56:10 <jkurik> Pravins has reported off-line:
19:56:11 <jkurik> #info From translation perspective, there is no issue to block the release.
19:56:13 <jkurik> #info However there are two issues the team wants to raise awareness about:
19:56:14 <jkurik> #info Translation group is missing talking points for Fedora 25. Pravins is going to request these from the team via mailing list.
19:56:16 <jkurik> #info Anaconda and Fedora media writer did not gave enough time for trans team to
19:56:17 <jkurik> translate it.
19:56:25 <jkurik> Anyone from the Translation team wants to add something, or comment the current status ?
19:56:35 <puiterwijk> That's still current
19:56:49 <jkurik> puiterwijk: ok, thanks for the confirmation
19:57:19 <jkurik> #topic CommOps
19:57:29 <Kohane> No, I agree with what Praviin said
19:57:48 <Kohane> Sorry, I had to leave for a moment
19:58:41 <jkurik> Kohane: is there anything wrong with the Translation status above ?
19:59:19 <Kohane> Nope. It's perfect. We had no significant issues.
19:59:33 <jkurik> ah, ok, thanks
19:59:43 <jkurik> Jfory7 has reported off-line:
19:59:44 <jkurik> #info CommOps is ready for the coming release of Fedora 25. In addition to working through on-boarding series, our next objectives will line up with the next Election.
19:59:46 <jkurik> #idea Don't forget that the Fedora Community Blog is a great place to share short-and-sweet updates about things happening in your sub-project and share them with the greater Fedora community!
19:59:47 <jkurik> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/writing-community-blog-article/
20:00:01 <jkurik> Anything else from the CommOps team ?
20:01:00 <jkurik> ok, let's check whether we have mattdm back....
20:01:28 <jkurik> mattdm: any issue we should be aware of ?
20:02:35 <jkurik> #topic Fedora Project Leader
20:03:27 <jkurik> #action jkurik to check with mattdm off-line whether there is any issue possibly affecting the release from the FPL pov
20:03:46 <jkurik> #topic Documentation
20:04:02 <randomuser> Hello
20:04:04 <jkurik> randomuser: can you please provide us with readiness status for Documentation ?
20:04:07 <jkurik> Hi
20:04:40 <randomuser> We have some folks working on updates to the install guide that should complete this week, and need to simply bump versions and republish some other works that haven't changed
20:04:55 <randomuser> much gratitude to adamw and nb for pushing out the relnotes RPM
20:05:22 <adamw> it would be really nice if we could get this process-ified reliably For The Future, like that snarky ticket i filed says :)
20:05:28 <Kohane> adamw deserves a cookie :)
20:05:39 * randomuser deserved the snark
20:06:04 <jkurik> #info folks working on updates to the install guide that should complete this week
20:06:19 <randomuser> I agree, docs should do better with following the release schedule in general, expecially with this point
20:06:19 <jkurik> #info bump versions and republish some other works that haven't changed is needed
20:07:53 <jkurik> #info docs should do better with following the release schedule in general
20:07:57 <jkurik> #link https://pagure.io/release-notes/issue/33
20:08:08 <jkurik> thanks randomuser
20:08:10 <jkurik> adamw++
20:08:11 <randomuser> that's all I have
20:08:16 <jkurik> nb++
20:08:16 <zodbot> jkurik: Karma for nb changed to 18 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:08:48 <jkurik> seems like we have a status from all the teams
20:08:55 <jkurik> #topic Open floor
20:08:57 <jkurik> anything else anyone would like to discuss ?
20:10:31 <Kohane> Nothing from my side.
20:10:34 <jkurik> ok, thanks folks for comming
20:10:41 <jkurik> #endmeeting