19:23:51 #startmeeting f25-final-readiness-meeting 19:23:51 Meeting started Thu Nov 10 19:23:51 2016 UTC. The chair is jkurik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:23:51 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:23:51 The meeting name has been set to 'f25-final-readiness-meeting' 19:23:53 #meetingtopic F25 Final Readiness Meeting 19:23:54 #topic Roll Call 19:23:56 .hello jkurik 19:24:05 .hello fale 19:24:06 .hello puiterwijk 19:24:16 so I hope we still have people for the readiness meeting here :) 19:24:19 pbrobinson, nirik thanks for the help 19:24:31 .hello kevin 19:24:35 .hello mohanboddu 19:24:38 sorry for the delay, the Go/No-Go took a bit longer than expected 19:24:45 .hello mailga 19:24:48 jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' 19:24:50 fale: fale 'Fabio Alessandro Locati' 19:24:54 puiterwijk: puiterwijk 'Patrick "マルタインアンドレアス" Uiterwijk' 19:25:00 nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi' 19:25:03 mboddu: mohanboddu 'Mohan Boddu' 19:25:05 mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' 19:25:08 .hello Kohane 19:25:10 .hello potty 19:25:14 Kohane: Sorry, but you don't exist 19:25:17 potty: potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' 19:25:23 .fas lailah 19:25:25 Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' 19:25:46 #chair nirik mboddu adamw 19:25:46 Current chairs: adamw jkurik mboddu nirik 19:26:07 #topic Purpose of this meeting 19:26:08 #info Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated. 19:26:10 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings 19:26:18 #topic Current status 19:26:34 .hello robyduck 19:26:35 robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' 19:27:02 .hello adamwill 19:27:02 #info Due to a present blocker the status of the F25 Final 1.2 compose is No-Go 19:27:03 adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' 19:27:04 #info The F25 Final release slips for a week and the new expected GA is 2016-Nov-22 19:27:09 * adamw is either here or in hell, can't tell which 19:27:50 Even the status is No-Go, we are going to check the readiness of all the teams, to make sure we are ready to release once all the blockers are solved. 19:28:02 #topic Design 19:28:40 Mizmo has reported the following readiness status off-line: 19:28:42 #info last-minute refinements to the final wallpaper is in progress. The wallpaper will be delivered as 0day update. 19:28:43 Anyone from the Design team wants to add something or comment? 19:29:55 #topic Infrastructure 19:30:16 nirik: any issues in the Infrastructure we should be aware of ? 19:30:16 things should be in good shape 19:30:22 we should be all ready to go 19:30:23 ok, thanks 19:30:55 #info things should be in good shape from the Infrastructure POV and the team should be all ready to go 19:31:05 #topic Ambassadors 19:31:23 potty: finally your time :) 19:31:50 We are in good shape. Ready to go. 19:32:01 great, thanks 19:32:19 #info Ambassadors are in good shape. Ready to go. 19:32:42 #topic FESCo 19:33:01 nirik, sgallagh, dgilmore, jwb, maxamillion, jsmith, paragan, kalev, rathann: anyone of you wants to speak in the name of FESCo ? 19:33:05 no blockers from FESCo. Everything should be ready when we are go 19:33:15 excellent 19:33:37 #info no blockers from FESCo. Everything should be ready when we are go 19:33:41 thanks nirik 19:33:48 no problem 19:34:00 #topic Fedora Engineering Manager 19:35:00 I have an off-line status from stickster 19:35:01 stickster has surveyed his team and he has no issues or concerns with release readiness, even though we have a no-go, we are basically ready 19:35:15 #info stickster has surveyed his team and he has no issues or concerns with release readiness, even though we have a no-go, we are basically ready 19:35:31 #topic Fedora Project Leader 19:35:53 mattdm: any issue we should be aware of ? 19:37:44 ok, mattdm is probably afk for a while, so I will return back ... 19:37:47 #undo 19:37:48 Removing item from minutes: 19:37:50 #topic Marketing 19:38:06 Jflory7 has reported the following status off-line: 19:38:07 #info Marketing is almost ready for Fedora 25 release. Final screenshots are being collected on the wiki and should be done soon. Final release announcement is drafted, but review is required by Edition WGs. 19:38:09 #help Edition WGs, please review the general release announcement for accuracy ASAP (*before end-of-working-day Friday*) 19:38:10 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F25_general_release_announcement 19:38:12 Anyone from the Marketing team wants to add anything ? 19:38:26 mailga: any comment ? 19:38:42 jkurik: I didn't checked any update in the release announcement. 19:39:04 So what you said is right by my side. 19:39:34 mailga: ok, as we slip there is now more room for the review of the release announcement 19:39:40 thanks 19:39:51 jkurik: yw 19:40:01 #topic QA 19:40:25 adamw: is there anything you want to raise for an awareness from the QA pov ? 19:40:34 um 19:40:38 no. don't think so. 19:40:48 anyone else? tflink? kparal? 19:41:02 oh 19:41:20 there is this thing about gnome-software's behaviour on upgrade from F23 to F25 being undefined, that people should probably discuss 19:42:22 is there any bug or email thread about it ? 19:43:26 adamw: ^^ 19:43:31 yeah sorry 19:43:34 was just finding it and got distracted 19:43:40 i am extremely tired and not focusing too well 19:43:48 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1393602 19:43:52 ah, sorry 19:43:53 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774171 19:44:23 i'm gonna start a thread on devel@ probably today about this topic in general, as we need to make some decisions about what our policy *is* so gnome-software can make a choice about what to do 19:46:19 #info QA is going to start a thread on devel@ about upgrade from F23 to F25 due to bug 1393602, to make sure we have an agreement on the policy 19:46:31 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1393602 19:46:38 #link https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=774171 19:46:51 adamw: thanks for the info 19:47:04 #topic Release Engineering 19:47:23 dgilmore, mboddu: may I ask one of you for an update, please ? 19:50:04 nirik: can you speak in the name on releng, or should we wait till dgilmore or mboddu are back ? 19:50:27 sure... as far as I know everything is ready... just waiting for the next rc request from qa 19:50:37 ok, thanks 19:50:58 #infor Release engineering is ready, just waiting for the next RC request 19:51:04 #topic Websites 19:51:12 robyduck: are you still with us ? 19:51:36 yes I am 19:51:38 websites are still work in progress but we are on time for release date 19:51:48 we would need feedback from Cloud WG for Atomic 19:51:57 jkurik: just came back from lunch, we need the RC request and we will do a new RC compose, but no go for next week release 19:52:17 we are still sorting out the last things of FMW, which is mostly done 19:52:31 #info websites are still work in progress but we are on time for release date 19:52:34 the rest should be smooth - so, we are good to go. 19:52:44 #info the team is awaiting feedback from Cloud WG for Atomic 19:52:45 jkurik: kinda a silly question we are not ready 19:52:55 jkurik: but we are on track 19:53:43 #info websites are still sorting out the last things of FMW, which is mostly done 19:53:48 robyduck: thanks 19:54:11 jkurik: YW 19:55:28 mboddu, dgilmore: thanks for your replay 19:55:54 #topic Translations 19:56:10 Pravins has reported off-line: 19:56:11 #info From translation perspective, there is no issue to block the release. 19:56:13 #info However there are two issues the team wants to raise awareness about: 19:56:14 #info Translation group is missing talking points for Fedora 25. Pravins is going to request these from the team via mailing list. 19:56:16 #info Anaconda and Fedora media writer did not gave enough time for trans team to 19:56:17 translate it. 19:56:25 Anyone from the Translation team wants to add something, or comment the current status ? 19:56:35 That's still current 19:56:49 puiterwijk: ok, thanks for the confirmation 19:57:19 #topic CommOps 19:57:29 No, I agree with what Praviin said 19:57:48 Sorry, I had to leave for a moment 19:58:41 Kohane: is there anything wrong with the Translation status above ? 19:59:19 Nope. It's perfect. We had no significant issues. 19:59:33 ah, ok, thanks 19:59:43 Jfory7 has reported off-line: 19:59:44 #info CommOps is ready for the coming release of Fedora 25. In addition to working through on-boarding series, our next objectives will line up with the next Election. 19:59:46 #idea Don't forget that the Fedora Community Blog is a great place to share short-and-sweet updates about things happening in your sub-project and share them with the greater Fedora community! 19:59:47 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/writing-community-blog-article/ 20:00:01 Anything else from the CommOps team ? 20:01:00 ok, let's check whether we have mattdm back.... 20:01:28 mattdm: any issue we should be aware of ? 20:02:35 #topic Fedora Project Leader 20:03:27 #action jkurik to check with mattdm off-line whether there is any issue possibly affecting the release from the FPL pov 20:03:46 #topic Documentation 20:04:02 Hello 20:04:04 randomuser: can you please provide us with readiness status for Documentation ? 20:04:07 Hi 20:04:40 We have some folks working on updates to the install guide that should complete this week, and need to simply bump versions and republish some other works that haven't changed 20:04:55 much gratitude to adamw and nb for pushing out the relnotes RPM 20:05:22 it would be really nice if we could get this process-ified reliably For The Future, like that snarky ticket i filed says :) 20:05:28 adamw deserves a cookie :) 20:05:39 * randomuser deserved the snark 20:06:04 #info folks working on updates to the install guide that should complete this week 20:06:19 I agree, docs should do better with following the release schedule in general, expecially with this point 20:06:19 #info bump versions and republish some other works that haven't changed is needed 20:07:53 #info docs should do better with following the release schedule in general 20:07:57 #link https://pagure.io/release-notes/issue/33 20:08:08 thanks randomuser 20:08:10 adamw++ 20:08:11 that's all I have 20:08:16 nb++ 20:08:16 jkurik: Karma for nb changed to 18 (for the f24 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 20:08:48 seems like we have a status from all the teams 20:08:55 #topic Open floor 20:08:57 anything else anyone would like to discuss ? 20:10:31 Nothing from my side. 20:10:34 ok, thanks folks for comming 20:10:41 #endmeeting