22:58:10 #startmeeting Fedora Latam Ambassadors meeting 2016-11-12 22:58:10 Meeting started Sat Nov 12 22:58:10 2016 UTC. The chair is echevemaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:58:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:58:10 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_latam_ambassadors_meeting_2016-11-12' 22:58:21 #chair athos 22:58:21 Current chairs: athos echevemaster 22:58:33 .hello porfirio 22:58:34 porfirio: Sorry, but you don't exist 22:58:45 #meetingname fedora-latam 22:58:45 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-latam' 22:58:53 .hello porfiriopaiz 22:58:55 porfirio: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco' 22:58:57 #topic Roll call 22:58:57 * porfirio from Managua, Nicaragua. 22:59:04 .fas echevemaster 22:59:04 echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' 22:59:14 * echevemaster Colombia, Venezuela 22:59:26 .hello athoscr 22:59:28 athos: athoscr 'Athos Ribeiro' 22:59:35 if my connection drops athos please continue. 22:59:38 Should I identify myself again?, Shame of me... 22:59:39 * athos Brazil 22:59:47 ok echevemaster :) 22:59:52 .hello potty 22:59:53 potty: potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' 22:59:55 .hello yulytas 22:59:57 yulytas: yulytas 'Julita Inca Chiroque' 22:59:58 .hello sophiekovalevsky 23:00:00 kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky 'Kiara Navarro' 23:00:00 Panamá 23:00:18 .hello porfiriopaiz 23:00:19 porfirio: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco' 23:00:29 * potty is from a place within the world 23:00:34 well, I think is not my connections, seems freenode is dropping my nickname. 23:00:45 .chair potty 23:00:45 potty is seated in a chair with a nice view of a placid lake, unsuspecting that another chair is about to be slammed into them. 23:01:05 what?? 23:01:08 hahaha 23:01:08 * porfirio from Managua, Nicaragua. 23:01:15 lol 23:01:18 lol thank you echevemaster 23:01:27 lol 23:01:32 zodbot revealed where I am 23:01:36 you meant s/./#/ 23:01:41 Chanfles! 23:02:20 #chair potty 23:02:20 Current chairs: athos echevemaster potty 23:02:25 hehehe 23:02:29 I did not know zodbot could do that though! lol 23:03:07 first at all, sorry for not attend the last week, I was with my family doing things 23:03:25 yes athos.- zodbot can make a lot of things :) 23:03:46 #topic MIgration from Trac to Pagure 23:04:06 athos, told me before to start that we have an issue with the data. 23:04:19 athos, could you elaborate what is happening? 23:04:27 sure 23:04:45 #meeting-name fedora-latam 23:05:01 as I was saying in latam channel: I have a problem testing the migrations 23:05:24 I need some permitions for XML authentication which I did not know about 23:05:29 I am not familiar with trac 23:05:54 so I am not sure if the admins can give me that or if I need to be an admin myself 23:06:18 so I can use pagure-import tool to import the tickets from trac to pagure 23:06:22 the other problem is: 23:06:38 FAmNA has a private Trac instance 23:06:56 and they did not want to migrate that yet because the tickets contain sensitive information 23:07:08 LATAM Trac is full of sensitive information 23:07:39 so maybe we should discuss a little more before having thing migrated. I know we can make issues private by default 23:07:56 but we need to verify if the access level would be the same as it is right now in Trac 23:08:01 eof 23:08:07 1.- I think someone from infra could help us with that. you ping them? 23:08:09 ! How about cipher private data? 23:09:09 potty, that could work. we can hide that data? 23:09:21 we'd need to do that manually potty. I would go for it, yes, but if we can enforce the same access level as the one we have right now in Trac, there would be no need for that, right? 23:09:41 Correct 23:09:59 athos, I can see any problem on that. 23:10:11 cant 23:10:13 And make it as a good practice... You know, not revealing sensitive data. 23:10:24 Pagure data is public by default, echevemaster 23:10:43 well potty, we are telling people that from the beginning 23:10:46 hi 23:10:50 .fas chinosoliard 23:10:51 chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' 23:10:51 chinosoliard, hi. 23:11:00 * chinosoliard from Arg 23:11:31 who are the Pagure`s admins? athos 23:11:40 pingou is 23:11:52 unless you are talking about the latam group 23:12:10 no, I`m referring to the global group 23:12:25 which we did not create yet, so w do not have admins yet. But I'd vote for keeping the same admins from Trac, whoever they are :) 23:12:37 yes no problem 23:12:49 but my question is, he can help us with the XML issues? 23:12:58 yes 23:13:08 that's why I was pinging potty about it 23:13:14 I know he is one of the admins there 23:13:18 so, first problem, almost solved. 23:13:33 2. make the access private 23:13:40 athos: ok 23:13:40 he can help us with this? 23:14:02 Not sure. We have to check what a private issue in pagure is exactly 23:14:12 and Who can see LATAM Trac 23:14:15 ok, so. 23:14:19 first action. 23:14:32 I believe only ambassadors have access to latam trac, right? 23:14:42 yes, thay can 23:14:51 so only ambassadors should see our pagure issues 23:15:16 that's what I need to figure out how to do, if it is doable 23:15:26 Pagure is based on fas access. Im almost sure we can use the same access credentials 23:15:33 .fas alexove 23:15:33 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 23:16:03 #action athos will ask pingou about XML authentication issues. 23:16:20 athos, I'm not in the ambassador group but I can see the tickets in trac by log into it using openID == FAS. 23:16:44 but can you open tickets, porfirio? 23:16:58 yes porfirio if you have a fas you can do it. 23:17:10 CLA+ 23:17:11 athos, I haven't tried yet. 23:17:58 so it will be easier then I thought. We will probably want to cipher information, as potty sugested, at some point 23:18:12 I mean, sensitive information 23:18:16 yes, but the goai is migrate the data 23:18:25 we can cipher data after. 23:18:26 yes :) 23:19:03 ok, so the action will be ask for these two issues. 23:19:08 agreed athos ? 23:19:16 agreed 23:19:17 :) 23:19:29 ok, i put the actions above. 23:19:40 next topic. 23:19:44 ! 23:19:55 ! 23:19:57 question, as soon as things are figured out and tested, I can go on and migrate things, right? 23:20:04 we are a +1 here already 23:20:04 go ahead yulytas 23:20:20 and freeze trac 23:20:28 (after sending an email about it, of course) 23:20:29 athos, yes. is the expected 23:20:31 ok 23:20:44 so everybody should keep an eye on that 23:20:46 :) 23:20:49 Yes athos. Willing to help you too 23:20:55 me too athos 23:21:12 please involve us, if you need help or not. 23:21:14 Thanks echevemaster, last week the ticket 364 was approved but the state has not appeared as Approved yet 23:21:14 hahaha 23:21:25 yulytas, ticket 23:21:26 ok, I will ask for help :) 23:21:30 eof 23:21:53 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/364 23:22:39 state? 23:22:45 yulytas, what are you referring about is not approved yet 23:22:47 ? 23:23:11 we do not have such tags, as far as I know yulitas 23:23:13 Cual es el siguiente topic? 23:23:17 As side note, mayorga is next to me and told me he managed to open a ticket for the call for bid for FUDCon 2017 while not being on the ambassadors group. 23:23:30 Podemos ver este ticket en Openfloor 23:23:42 ok porfirio please give me two second to pass to the next topic 23:23:51 Ok. 23:24:00 yulytas, please, we can discuss this on OpenFloor 23:24:10 and please not bring things that is not on the topic 23:24:22 ehevemaster, I am worry about the ticket flight to Aly and Tonet since there are 13 days left 23:24:26 +1 echevemaster 23:24:47 ok yulytas! let's discuss it on Open Floor! okie? 23:24:57 ok 23:24:57 #topic Call for Bids for FUDCon LATAM 2017 23:25:04 thanks for your help 23:25:07 porfirio, go ahead please. 23:25:42 Ooops, sorry just this: As a side note, mayorga is next to me and told me he managed to open a ticket for the call for bid for FUDCon 2017 while not being on the ambassadors group. 23:25:47 eof. 23:26:03 ? 23:26:44 mayorga seems is not here right now. 23:26:50 .fasinfo mayorga 23:26:51 athos: User: mayorga, Name: Eduardo Augusto Mayorga, email: e@mayorgalinux.com, Creation: 2013-11-03, IRC Nick: mayorga, Timezone: America/Managua, Locale: es, GPG key ID: 7B32E9F8, Status: active 23:26:54 athos: Unapproved Groups: mips-content 23:26:58 athos: Approved Groups: +packager docs fedorabugs docs-writers cla_fpca cla_done freemedia fudcon 23:27:11 he opened a ticket asking about if we can start with the call of bids for Fudcon. 23:27:38 what do you think about it guys? 23:27:49 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/370 23:27:56 thanks athos 23:28:05 I forgot paste the url 23:28:19 he has a point. According to the schedule on the wiki, we are late 23:28:27 from me will be a -1 23:28:32 why. 23:28:49 we dont have the same schedule of other continets 23:28:50 The point is that for opening a ticket it is not requiered to be approved on the ambassador group. 23:29:20 oooohhh 23:29:24 porfirio++ 23:29:33 porfirio, yes. I dont see any problem on that. 23:29:43 even not ambassadors can discuss here. 23:29:53 echevemaster: do you remember when (month) we vote last year? 23:29:59 porfiriopaiz++ 23:30:09 no chinosoliard 23:30:27 but well, please continue on the topic 23:30:43 .hello mayorga 23:30:44 mayorga: mayorga 'Eduardo Augusto Mayorga' 23:30:59 mayorga, please we are talking about the ticket you opened 23:31:03 Call for bids != voting 23:31:08 well, This is my 1st year here as an ambassador 23:31:10 right? 23:31:13 I do not know the schedule 23:31:15 echevemaster: it is about the level of privacy on the data that were discussing on the trac topic, athos asked if I was able 23:31:22 echevemaster: do we have a formal schedule for latam? 23:31:37 to open a ticket on trac. 23:31:46 no, but historically we decide on Feb-March 23:31:47 athos, 23:32:05 yes no problem porfirio I know :) 23:32:08 ok 23:32:41 I see no reason not to start the call for bids today. 23:32:54 call for bids is the same of decide the bids chinosoliard 23:33:08 yes, I mean, it's only "Call for bids", not votations 23:33:24 It would not hurt anybody, and would also remind people about that. 23:33:25 ohh, I was confused, sorry 23:33:30 so. if is only call for bids. agreed, but if is decide the bids, not 23:33:43 yes, it's just the call echevemaster 23:33:48 I understand that is only "CFB" 23:34:07 so, if it is, my vote is *+1 23:34:29 it is better decide on Feb-March 23:34:39 we need to write a better explain for the ticket? 23:34:45 so what will be the vote about this for you guys 23:34:45 we would need to set dates though... you said we only vote on feb-mar, right? 23:34:52 +1 here 23:34:54 athos, yes. 23:35:17 why,because the people usually make the bid on January 23:35:17 but echevemaster, should we also set a deadline for people to propose their bids? 23:35:25 +1 for CFB. But we need a "deadline", no? 23:35:34 yes. 23:35:36 athos, 23:35:40 maybe the end of January then? 23:35:56 sounds good 23:35:59 1/2 junary 23:36:05 1st of February for the deadline? I mean, we could delay it people say they need some time, but we should also consider that having a decision early gives more time to the organisers to deal with things. 23:36:14 s/junary/january/g 23:36:20 last week of January or first February week 23:36:34 yes! 23:36:48 +1 First week of February :) 23:36:57 ok, lets do it on the first week of february 23:37:05 please vote if you agreed. 23:37:13 athos and I already vote 23:37:14 mayorga_, 23:37:15 ? 23:37:25 Actually January sounds better. :-) 23:37:32 (do we need actions? Someone needs to open a ticket and send an email with call for bids, right?) 23:37:38 January 23:37:54 On January 27 is a good day, just one day before the next Fedora LATAM meeting, though. 23:38:13 two february, three january 23:38:28 so. what January day, 27? 23:38:33 I change my vote to January 27th, so we have an agreement faster/easier here :) 23:38:39 ok 23:38:41 me too 23:38:43 +1 23:38:51 we are on nov 11th, 2 month is enought? 23:38:59 sorry, nov 12th 23:39:05 for a bid? I think it is :) 23:39:32 I prefer January 27th too... 23:39:33 #agreed Fudcon Call for bids is open, the dealine is at January 27, 2017 23:40:03 #action mayorga_ will send the mail to the list. 23:40:22 Sure1 23:40:26 should we have a ticket too? :) 23:40:37 just to make it very CLEAR! 23:40:53 athos: I do not see the need. 23:40:53 if you consider right do it. 23:41:01 ack 23:41:06 but, the email is enough 23:41:08 I think 23:41:25 mayorga_, please can you share with us before sent, we have to be clear. 23:41:27 ? 23:42:06 No problem. 23:42:27 #topic OpenFloor 23:42:29 yulytas, 23:42:34 tell me 23:42:38 continue with your topic. 23:42:45 thanks 23:42:49 What is the problem with your ticket. 23:42:50 * chinosoliard going to smoke 23:42:50 ? 23:43:06 ?3 23:43:08 I sent mails to you, mayorga and potty in order to do the test of audio and video in the auditorium 23:43:23 #meeting_name fedora-latam 23:43:40 what is the fucking word to change the name??' 23:43:56 I arranged the auditorium but none of you responded it, I need to confirm if you are going to do the talk on November 26th as we planned before please 23:44:21 yulytas, I confirmed my attendance. 23:44:30 I published some flyers and online webs with your names on it https://lleksah.wordpress.com/2016/11/10/linux-at-uni-is-coming-soon/ 23:45:07 #meetingname fedora-latam 23:45:07 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-latam' 23:45:13 I would ask you also to respond mails to confirm whenever you are ready for the test, it is so important to have a good quality 23:45:14 yulytas: I am sorry I have not replied. 23:45:20 but from my side, I dont have time for testing audio or video withinn the week 23:45:41 hmmm we can do it on weekends, I can arrage that if you want 23:45:59 my worry is also about the tickets for Tonet and Aly 23:46:00 I will reply within 30 minutes from now. 23:46:06 no yulytas. no problem for it 23:46:11 there are less than 13 days 23:46:28 I somehow missed your mail. :-( 23:46:39 yulytas, we need the cardholder for buy the tickets. 23:46:50 I will ping him 23:47:06 and sorry that I do not know about the ticket approval, but I do want to follow the process and do the things good this time 23:47:06 yulytas: you need to contact Neville 23:47:15 the ticket is approved anyway 23:47:24 yes. 23:47:34 so first action. 23:47:37 Tonet and Aly already put their information to the flights and I already sent a mail to Neville 23:47:40 so if they can buy it, they will get a refund later. Else, ask them to contact Neville ASAP 23:48:06 yulytas, if you sent the email to Neville, take for sure he will do ir 23:48:10 it 23:48:19 ok athos, thanks . I did not know how to proceed that is why I dared to ask 23:48:25 did you sent the chat? 23:48:52 I put it in the ticket and I also asked about the reimbursement process in FEDORA 23:49:00 ok. 23:49:24 well, please ping him again, athos and I will do the same 23:49:28 ok echevemaster, I will try to be in openfloor to arrange the details of tests whenever you are ready 23:50:28 ok yulytas. 23:50:40 and thanks for the opportunity to ask here :) 23:50:41 ack, echevemaster 23:51:08 ok people- I think for today all is clear- 23:51:21 some thing we have to bring on the table? 23:51:29 or we can close the meeting? 23:51:41 ! 23:51:46 porfirio, go ahead 23:52:19 I still cannot read the archive mails from the Fedora LATAM mailing list. 23:52:29 eof 23:52:45 that means you dont have access to the mailing list. 23:52:57 Either recieve mails from the mailing list. 23:52:57 potty, you manage that list 23:52:58 ? 23:53:08 LATAM mailing list? 23:53:20 Yes 23:53:34 porfirio, or do you refer to the Ambassadors List (Global) 23:53:43 Nope. 23:53:54 potty, please add porfirio to the mailing list. 23:54:08 \o/ 23:54:13 Ok 23:54:20 thanks potty :) 23:54:45 I`ll close the meeting in 23:54:47 5 23:54:49 4 23:54:50 3 23:54:51 2 23:54:52 well done! ok, goodbye! 23:54:56 1 23:55:02 thank you guys :) 23:55:05 #endmeeting