22:59:56 #startmeeting Fedora Latam Ambassadors 2016-11-26 22:59:56 Meeting started Sat Nov 26 22:59:56 2016 UTC. The chair is echevemaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:59:56 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:59:56 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_latam_ambassadors_2016-11-26' 23:00:10 #meetingname fedora-latam 23:00:10 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-latam' 23:00:20 #topic Roll Call 23:00:30 * echevemaster Colombia - Venezuela 23:00:34 .fas echevemaster 23:00:34 echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' 23:00:39 .hello potty 23:00:40 .fas wolnei 23:00:40 potty: potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' 23:00:43 wolnei: wolnei 'Wolnei Cândido Tomazelli Junior' 23:00:43 Brazil 23:00:45 .hello athoscr 23:00:46 athos: athoscr 'Athos Ribeiro' 23:00:48 * athos from Brazil 23:00:55 .fas porfiriopaiz 23:00:56 porfirio: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco' 23:01:01 * porfirio from Nicaragua. 23:01:03 ,fas itamarjp 23:01:03 #chair athos potty 23:01:03 Current chairs: athos echevemaster potty 23:01:07 .fas itamarjp 23:01:10 itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' 23:01:10 * itamarjp Brazil 23:02:38 #topic MIgration from Trac to Pagure 23:02:56 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/365 23:03:18 This is the only ticket marked as "meeting" 23:03:40 athos: what is the status of this task, can you explain us? 23:03:44 sure 23:03:58 thanks. 23:05:07 I still didn't get admin privileges in our Trac. That's because I did not ask for it :) if potty is here tonight I believe we can get this fixed during/after this meeting. 23:05:18 athos: ok 23:05:26 I created a latam pagure group in the staging version of pagure 23:05:58 in which we will perform a test migration before performing the real one ;) 23:06:05 #link https://stg.pagure.io/stg-latam/amb-latam 23:06:27 athoscr++ 23:06:27 porfirio: Karma for athoscr changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:06:51 I also read code/docs in the importer tool to understand how it works. 23:06:58 I can't wait to start using pagure ^_^ 23:07:30 Since last week we got things clear in the access level of our Trac (anybody with a FAS account can access it) 23:07:53 we are more than ready to go for it! :) 23:08:03 so I would say: 23:08:28 1 - get temporary admin access to Trac to perform migrations 23:08:47 2 - perform a test migration in the staging version of pagure 23:09:11 3 - get a few ambassadors to validate things (any candidates?) 23:09:23 4 - perform real migration 23:09:45 5 - remove data from staging pagure (is this necessary?) 23:10:18 6 - give admin privileges in pagure to former trac admins 23:10:23 7 - profit? :) 23:10:33 7 is obviously a joke :) 23:10:43 eof 23:10:54 glad to know that! 23:11:13 1.- what will be the deadline for this? 23:11:26 2.- Again, how we can help you? 23:11:39 athos: 23:12:48 1 - I believe we will have the staging version for validation a couple hours after I get the admin access in Trac 23:14:03 For now, I need help getting this access; then I will need help to validate things in staging; potty will assembly a team to remove sensitive data from trac and pagure after that; 23:14:19 yup 23:14:48 ok, thanks in advance potty 23:14:54 thanks athos 23:14:56 It would also be nice to have someone writing one or two paragraphs on how to use pagure to open tickets, with tags 23:14:59 eof 23:15:16 there is another topic that you guys want discuss? 23:15:23 .fas alexove 23:15:23 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 23:15:25 ! 23:15:28 .fas fredlima 23:15:29 fredlima: fredlima 'Frederico Henrique Gonçalves Lima' 23:15:33 * fredlima Brazil 23:15:39 go ahead athos ? 23:16:18 * alexove = Perú 23:16:29 .fas lorddemon 23:16:30 lorddemon: lorddemon 'Gonzalo Nina Mamani' 23:16:32 * lorddemon Bolivia 23:17:09 I just want to let you guys know that today I became a packager sponsor, meaning I can help getting new people into the packagers team. So if anyone want to become a packager, you can also contact me :) 23:17:29 Uhull 23:17:35 yes, man I saw the notification, use you powers for good 23:17:36 Felicitaciones athos 23:17:38 athoscr++ 23:17:38 fredlima: Karma for athoscr changed to 3 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:17:40 athos++ 23:17:41 Que chevere 23:17:41 lorddemon: Karma for athoscr changed to 4 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:17:43 thanks to echevemaster, mayorga, itamarjp and the others who supported my ticket 23:18:00 eof 23:18:17 congrats man. 23:18:28 thanks :) 23:18:36 Anyone else? anybody wants bring a topic to this meeting? 23:18:57 ! 23:19:02 go ahead fredlima 23:19:43 Someone knows where is dbruno? I sent an email asking for someone to sponsor me to ambassador 23:19:53 Never replied 23:20:35 There are other friend trying to contact him for the same purpuse but no response 23:20:36 danielbruno was a contributor from Brazil 23:20:39 Eof 23:20:57 IIRC is a ambassador sponsor too, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Matiasmaceira 23:20:58 he dont live in brazil anymore 23:21:36 he is in South Africa at the moment. I am not sure if he will have time to go through the process with you, but wait for a few days. If he does not reply, we may find someone else in other country to help you 23:21:44 I sent email to simon, no reply also 23:21:49 are you a sponsor, echevemaster? 23:21:55 no. 23:22:05 Im only packager sponsor 23:22:12 not ambassadors 23:22:24 another one could be lokomurdok 23:22:29 since september my brazilian friend are trying to reach dbruno. Nothing 23:22:37 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_choose_a_mentor 23:22:54 OK echevemaster, I will try to contact this guys 23:22:57 Thanks 23:23:02 please fredlima ask to lokomurdok or tatica. 23:23:17 from panama or venezuela. 23:23:28 What are the procedures to get a new and active Ambassador's sponsor and mentor for LATAM? 23:23:36 porfirio: first one. 23:23:37 Wolnei, i tried 2 of them, no reply 23:23:51 Get involved in meetings, wiki, and events 23:23:51 OK echevemaster. I will. 23:24:06 sorry porfirio I read wrong 23:24:15 the procedures are not clear 23:24:34 I think tatica can help you fredlima. Try her as well 23:24:34 right now ambassadors sponsors are elected when one of them wants leave the team 23:24:43 K athos 23:24:51 this one get one new guy 23:24:55 Or they indicate a new person 23:25:09 The current mentors 23:25:12 this is not a process that could be voted 23:25:31 and nobody has made something to change it. 23:25:55 If They are not active or responsive, What the community can do? 23:26:23 so, it is not a votation, although we as ambassadors can give our opinion 23:26:29 first one we have to change the process 23:26:49 maybe we should email all the current mentors and ask the inactive ones to step down and elect new mentors? 23:27:04 s/elect/point/ 23:27:07 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/403 23:27:09 or ask them, for change his position for give oportunity for new people 23:27:15 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/396 23:27:48 tatica gave -1 on ticket 396, she is not interested in seeing Fedora Latam growing 23:28:19 about reimbursements, look this one, 23:28:20 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/385 23:29:00 ok, we can ask them if they will be active. 23:29:14 if not, we can think in a process to change the situation 23:29:21 itamarjp: Then she must be up to mentor and sponsor new ambassadors. fredlima, ping tatica and ask if she can mentor and sponsor you for becoming a new ambassador. 23:29:42 recommendation: Please we dont have to take this personal, the last time, we have a lot of problems 23:30:04 so, first step, ask to the mentords 23:30:32 we can make an email for that and ask to them in public 23:30:39 if the email is not asked 23:30:41 I am trying to make fedora grow, some people are not interested 23:30:41 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/360 23:30:54 we can change the process 23:31:04 echevemaster, its not personal, I am waiting a long time to get reimbursed, 23:31:05 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/362 23:31:27 itamarjp: we are talking about ambassadors 23:31:31 if We Want to make Fedora grow then We need to change how the things are working now 23:31:40 if you want we can change the topic after this 23:32:07 agreed people? I think the best way to change this, is make a public email 23:32:20 ok, so who will write the email? :) It must be very polite and well written, because we will be asking people to step down if they feel they can not dedicate time to sponsor new ambassadors anymore 23:32:23 athos: porfirio potty itamarjp 23:32:37 I am going to file a ticket about PDV 23:32:48 athos: I can do it tomorrow. 23:33:01 awesome! thanks echevemaster 23:33:04 athos, explain to people what PDV means 23:33:48 #action echevemaster will send a email to the list about inactive mentors 23:33:55 itamarjp: PDV? haha now I am embarassed! I don't know 23:34:21 itamarjp: do you want to discuss your ticket? 23:35:05 PDV means asking people to leave, quit, give up, 23:35:18 itamarjp: ? 23:36:00 people should have a way to join fedora and get approved, 23:36:44 and mentors are not mentoring they should leave, 23:37:02 itamarjp: I closed the topic, do you want to discuss your ticket? 23:37:07 yes, 23:37:11 I will file one. 23:37:46 #topic Latinoware 2016 - Hotel for itamarjp 23:37:50 go ahead itamarjp 23:37:57 what is the problem with this ticket? 23:38:19 how long a ticket should wait to be reimbursed ? 23:39:41 EOF 23:40:38 idk 23:41:00 athos, take it and continue, 23:41:18 ok 23:41:31 so, itamarjp, I do not know about timing 23:41:43 I do know that this problem is present in other communities as well 23:41:46 go ahead with next topic 23:42:00 #action echevemaster will ask to neville about itamarjp ticket 23:42:05 there is no more topics 23:42:11 Shall I close the meeting 23:42:13 ? 23:42:16 yes :) 23:42:18 I mean 23:42:23 from here, yes 23:42:29 people? 23:42:40 5 23:42:40 4 23:42:41 3 23:42:42 ! 23:42:46 athos: go aheafd 23:42:47 lol 23:43:03 are you kidding me? 23:43:05 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements#Having_others_pay_for_you 23:43:07 no :) 23:43:14 I wanted to leave this link 23:43:16 for the records 23:43:36 Neville can pay things in advance in some cases. We should use it more, when needed 23:43:39 eof 23:43:43 athos: yes. 23:43:50 2 23:43:51 1 23:43:57 #endmeeting