14:04:57 #startmeeting FAmSCo 2017-01-18 14:04:57 Meeting started Wed Jan 18 14:04:57 2017 UTC. The chair is mailga. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:04:57 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:04:57 The meeting name has been set to 'famsco_2017-01-18' 14:05:12 #meetingname famsco 14:05:12 The meeting name has been set to 'famsco' 14:05:28 #topic Roll Call 14:05:39 .hello mailga 14:05:40 mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' 14:05:52 .fas jonatoni 14:05:52 jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' 14:05:58 .fas fredlima 14:05:59 fredlima: fredlima 'Frederico Henrique Gonçalves Lima' 14:06:00 .hello robyduck 14:06:02 robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' 14:06:13 .hello bex 14:06:13 bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' 14:07:15 let's wait a couple of min 14:07:42 #chair jonatoni fredlima robyduck bexelbie 14:07:42 Current chairs: bexelbie fredlima jonatoni mailga robyduck 14:08:21 robyduck: can you lead the meeting? 14:09:37 mailga: I can if you prefer. 14:10:22 potty gnokii cwickert around? 14:10:26 So before going to the agenda I'd like to welcome all to this new FAmSCo journey 14:10:28 .fas gnokii 14:10:29 gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' 14:10:51 robyduck: go ahead. You're the most experienced man. 14:11:06 ok 14:11:14 gnokii still has connection issues 14:11:39 #chair gnokii 14:11:39 Current chairs: bexelbie fredlima gnokii jonatoni mailga robyduck 14:11:39 so we have got a charge from the Council and the last FAmSCo to 14:11:58 .fas gnokii 14:11:59 sorry have bad connection 14:11:59 gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' 14:12:02 .hello potty 14:12:03 potty: potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' 14:12:15 #chair potty 14:12:15 Current chairs: bexelbie fredlima gnokii jonatoni mailga potty robyduck 14:12:20 * potty salute everyone here 14:12:32 ok let's wait some minutes more then 14:14:01 Today I'd like to do just a few things to start 14:14:24 1) Discuss meeting time, if this is still ok for all 14:14:47 2) Look at our FAmSCo agenda for this year 14:14:52 .fas giannisk 14:14:53 giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' 14:14:58 * giannisk waves at everyone. 14:15:25 #chair giannisk 14:15:25 Current chairs: bexelbie fredlima giannisk gnokii jonatoni mailga potty robyduck 14:15:35 3) see who wants to be the chair and eventually elect him (or nex week) 14:15:47 does this work for everyone? 14:15:59 I think with these pints we fill the whole hour 14:16:52 robyduck: they're enough to fill the hour. For me is ok. 14:17:14 robyduck: what was the first item again? I missed that :/ 14:17:17 #topic FAmSCo meeting time 14:17:26 robyduck: got it, nvm 14:17:38 So, actually we have it wednesday at 14 UTC 14:18:10 n't have APAC members this time, so I guess afternoon or evening should work for EMEA and LATAM 14:18:32 Current meeting time works for me 14:18:33 .hello itamarjp 14:18:33 itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' 14:18:42 #chair itamarjp 14:18:42 Current chairs: bexelbie fredlima giannisk gnokii itamarjp jonatoni mailga potty robyduck 14:18:45 For me is really difficult to attend the meeting, can we do it a bit later? For example 16 UTC 14:19:00 current meeting time also works for me 14:19:43 ok so at least one of us has some difficulties 14:19:48 robyduck: can we open a whenisgood for that? 14:19:55 do you want us to start a whenisgood? 14:20:03 err 14:20:51 +1 for the whenisgood poll, then 14:20:59 mailga: can you start one and post it to the list? 14:21:09 let's have this sort it out until next week :) 14:21:16 robyduck: I'll do asap. 14:21:16 s/sort it/sorted 14:21:23 mailga++ 14:21:23 giannisk: Karma for mailga changed to 4 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:21:26 thanks 14:21:27 #action mailga to open a whenisgood for a new FAmSCo meeting time 14:21:45 giannisk: yes, absolutely 14:22:07 #topic FAmSCo 2016 agenda 14:22:20 giannisk: of course asap means in a couple of days :-D 14:22:40 The last FAmSCo and the Council charged us with some specific topics 14:23:09 mailga summarized them in a ticket and bexelbie added a more detailled comment 14:23:19 .famsco 410 14:23:21 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/410 14:24:16 I do not have any other points to add off hand now, but if anyone has something to add, he is welcome to do so 14:25:18 Agenda and comment looking good so far 14:25:22 the most important ones are a better ambassador organization, better reporting and budgeting of Regions and the think if we really need FOSCo or not, and eventually present a proposal to the Council 14:25:42 s/the think/the thing 14:26:03 bexelbie: anything you want to add here as Community Lead? 14:26:23 I would encourage FAmSCo to start with Ambassadors and then look outward 14:26:30 s/would// 14:26:36 bad English habit :) 14:26:42 yeah, that's for sure the order 14:26:43 Don't try to take it all on at once 14:27:10 as far as budget goes, I am coordinating the Project level budget, reimbursement, etc. work so definitely consider me a partner (if you want my help :) ) 14:27:13 eom 14:27:29 bexelbie++ 14:27:39 thanks for offering your help 14:27:58 robyduck: we have also some tickets to chek. 14:28:01 we will definitely need it 14:28:25 ! 14:28:26 mailga: should we do them today? 14:28:47 how many and which kind of? 14:28:51 robyduck: no, but we should do next meeting. 14:29:32 I think we should start with concrete work next week 14:29:37 robyduck: there are a couple in agenda yet (if I recall correctly), and other 2/3. 14:29:44 robyduck: +1 14:29:47 ok 14:29:49 gnokii: yes? 14:30:00 I have a personal request - may I be included in the whenisgood so you know my availability with regards to things we will work on together? I don't expect you to block on me. 14:30:36 bexelbie: are you in the FAmSCo ML? 14:30:37 mailga: can you do so please? 14:30:41 1. I want to know now when we have to submt the budget planning, after last stage of budget.next it was September 14:30:59 heard somebody saying thats not the case anymore 14:31:15 mailga, not sure 14:31:21 2. for what are right now potty or me needed? 14:31:23 eof 14:31:43 bexelbie: that's a question for you 14:31:50 robyduck: at the moment there are still ex-FAmSCo in list, after this meeting I'll erase them, right? 14:32:35 gnokii: budget submission is oktober still IIRC 14:32:40 * mailga is checking if bexelbie is in the ML 14:32:41 mailga, I am happy to be on the list 14:32:46 gnokii: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Budget.next#The_Fedora_Budget_Process 14:32:53 budget is going to work a little differently this year 14:32:57 we haven't figured it all out 14:33:02 but expect details closer to MArch 14:33:11 I am still trying to figure out where we are on getting a new FY budget 14:33:18 as you know it has trended late, something I am trying to fix 14:33:22 mailga: yes, you should drop them from the list, unless they are FAmSCo admins 14:33:22 na then is fun to say it would be different 14:35:17 so it is still September deadline for us then and I am not the idiot 14:35:47 gnokii: no you are not, and I think once we have the different process bexelbie will update the wiki 14:36:09 and budget.fp.o 14:36:13 I have not yet modified those wiki pages at this point 14:36:25 * bexelbie is actually working on part of the budget.fp.o rebuild in another window at this moment :) 14:36:57 to make that also clear APAC needs his FAD to do it and the only way we can after the FAD got into regional budget is to couple it with FUDCon and move FUDCon back to June/July 14:38:45 Do all of the regions require a FAD in order to make a budget request? 14:39:38 bexelbie: I wouldn't say "require", but it definitely helps to have a clear overview of what budget is needed 14:39:39 bexelbie: it worked that way, but for the old budget process 14:39:44 bexelbie: you can compare APAC with EMEA, they can do it online here thats simple impossible 14:40:26 interesting 14:40:42 EMEA used to plan their regional budget during the EMEA FADs 14:41:20 Last year, the EMEA FAD didn't happen, however we held a mini-FAD during DevConf in Brno, which was attended by EMEA FAmSCo members, the treasurer, the FPL and FCL 14:41:23 Hello 14:41:26 I would say, regions can still make a FAD just for budgeting, but they *should* (have to?) couple it with another event, like FUDCon, DecConf or whatever where most of the people attend anyway 14:41:28 .fas lailah 14:41:29 Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' 14:41:53 robyduck: couple is hard here 14:42:08 I'm sorry I'm so late, I confused the hours, I thought it was at 15:00 instead of 14:00. 14:42:12 we only have a few big events 14:42:18 #chair Kohane 14:42:18 Current chairs: Kohane bexelbie fredlima giannisk gnokii itamarjp jonatoni mailga potty robyduck 14:43:11 gnokii: ok, if you think you need that then file a request for a FAD for budgeting. We cannot discuss this today 14:43:11 I am not trying to create a rabbit hole here :). Was just curious. Sounds like this is something APAC will continue to resolve as needed (as well as other regions that it affects) - barring a new decision from FAmSCo 14:44:17 can we move on? 14:44:27 robyduck: yes please 14:44:32 robyduck: +1 this is a welcome meeting 14:44:33 yes 14:44:43 #topic FAmSCo chair 14:45:00 robyduck: its not about I think its needed and I have to file a request, its more that bexelbie did say on the Ambassadors list he wants to make them online and the date would be another one 14:45:05 As you know we have to elect a chair and its vice withibn the first 2 weeks of FAmSCo 14:45:27 #limk https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules#Election_of_the_Chairperson 14:45:35 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules#Election_of_the_Chairperson 14:45:38 gnokii, we can talk further after the meeting if you'd like 14:45:41 thanks giannisk 14:46:27 fine 14:46:35 My proposal for the chair would be to also file a weekly agenda before any FAmSCo meeting, like Matthew does for the Council 14:46:54 Yes, it's a good idea. 14:47:05 tickets to discuss, proposals ecc, so everyone can prepare elf for the meeting and we do not loose time 14:47:34 * robyduck has strange keyboard sensibilities today 14:47:36 robyduck: +1 14:47:42 robyduck: please remember we use the lazy consensus also. 14:47:50 sure 14:48:40 I suggest creating a ticket on the FAmSCo trac, where candidates can nominate themselves. Deadline for nominations would be until next week. Then FAmSCo members have another week to vote for their candidates. 14:48:41 not sure now, but is the new FAmSCo present today? 14:49:18 giannisk: let's do that faster 14:49:25 robyduck: I think it is 14:49:40 robyduck: Not everybody is here today 14:49:55 robyduck: if you mean those who were voted last election I think some of us are here. 14:50:06 who's not here? 14:50:13 normally we were used to vote directly in the meeting, but we can file a ticket, nominations close firday at 23:59 UTC and we vote until nex meeting 14:50:16 * giannisk needs to leave in about 15 minutes. 14:50:52 fredlima: I think Itamar was voted but is not here... 14:51:00 robyduck & giannisk of course next meeting is at the same time as today. 14:51:04 robyduck: we ceased voting directly during the meetings during our last FAmSCo term, since we had trouble reching quorum 14:51:17 Kohane: he is here 14:51:25 robyduck: but your suggestion to place a deadline until friday sounds good, +1 14:51:25 giannisk: do you want to create the ticket for the chair? 14:51:38 robyduck: sure, lemme add an action item 14:51:39 Oh, okay, sorry for the confusion then. 14:51:45 :) 14:52:04 giannisk: yeah, we are just 7, if somene wants to nominate he will do that even today I guess 14:52:29 * itamarjp listenning 14:52:30 #action giannisk create a new ticket on the FAmSCo trac related to the election of the chairperson, inform rest of FAmSCo members 14:52:44 cool 14:52:57 #topic Open Floor 14:53:21 anything else goes here, we should close regularly at 15UTC 14:54:02 does all of you have subscribed to the ML? 14:54:15 I'm subscribed. 14:54:19 mailga? 14:54:21 I'm too 14:54:24 me too 14:54:36 I think I am not, 14:54:41 I'm checking 14:55:15 itamarjp: please subscrive here https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/famsco.lists.fedoraproject.org/ 14:56:14 done. 14:56:19 then I think we're all subscrived. 14:56:35 +1 14:56:37 itamarjp: I'm going to approve your sunscription. 14:56:46 mailga, thank you, 14:57:15 anything else you want to add for today? 14:57:18 itamarjp: done! Welcome. 14:57:46 robyduck: I had one, but I forgot :-D 14:57:59 robyduck: Not from my side. 14:58:21 oh yes! Someone who wants to update the wikipage? 14:58:25 mailga: keep it for the nex week :) 14:58:45 mailga: right 14:59:17 mailga: I can do that 14:59:19 of course we could open a ticket, but there's some work to be done. 14:59:47 Kohane: ok. Ping me for any info you need. 14:59:56 Perfect. I'll do so. 15:00:02 On IRC, right? 15:00:17 #action Kohane to update the main FAmSCo wikipage. 15:00:17 #action Kohane will update the FAmSCo wiki page, mailga will assist her if needed 15:00:23 ouch 15:00:30 What? 15:00:34 Uff... My fault... 15:00:41 #undo 15:00:41 Removing item from minutes: ACTION by robyduck at 15:00:17 : Kohane will update the FAmSCo wiki page, mailga will assist her if needed 15:00:41 Why two actions? 15:01:12 Kohane: you can ping me in every social, I'll reply asap. 15:01:34 ok, fine. Anything else? If not I'll close in 3 15:01:40 .famsco 411 15:01:40 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/411 15:01:41 Okay, perfect. Do you have Telegram? Is what I use the most. 15:01:55 giannisk: cool, thanks 15:01:57 Ticket regarding the election of the chairperson is up. 15:02:08 giannisk: +1 15:02:24 giannisk ++ 15:02:24 Kohane I have. 15:02:34 Today we made a good start, let's soon get all cannons firing! :) 15:02:42 Yes! 15:02:45 yes! 15:02:46 yeah 15:03:06 see you all next week 15:03:15 #endmeeting