23:00:06 <echevemaster> #startmeeting Fedora Latam Ambassadors meeting 2017-02-18
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23:00:33 * mayorga reads.
23:00:37 <Richzendy> .fas Richzendy
23:00:39 <zodbot> Richzendy: richzendy 'Edwind Richzendy Contreras Soto' <richzendy@gmail.com>
23:00:41 <echevemaster> #topic Roll Call
23:00:45 <itamarjp> .fas itamarjp
23:00:46 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
23:00:50 * porfiriopaiz reads.
23:00:55 <echevemaster> #chair itamarjp Richzendy
23:00:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: Richzendy echevemaster itamarjp
23:01:43 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster
23:01:44 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
23:01:53 * echevemaster Venezuela Colombia
23:02:53 * Richzendy Venezuela
23:03:45 <echevemaster> #topic Event to promote FEDORA [asking for financial sponsor]
23:03:59 <echevemaster> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/380
23:04:39 <echevemaster> Yulitas is asking for USD 94
23:04:51 <echevemaster> for travelling to Cusco
23:05:02 <alexove> .fas alexove
23:05:02 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
23:05:26 <echevemaster> please read the ticket and discuss about it
23:05:27 <alexove> Hello
23:05:31 <alexove> url please
23:05:32 <echevemaster> alexove: hello
23:05:38 <echevemaster> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/380
23:07:05 <echevemaster> mayorga: porfiriopaiz are you just reading or you will vote?
23:07:12 <alexove> !
23:07:31 <echevemaster> go ahead alexove
23:07:35 <alexove> You're right echevemaster, there are not the wiki page for the event
23:07:55 <echevemaster> yulytas: we are discussing about your ticket
23:07:57 <yulytas> !
23:08:06 <echevemaster> where is the wiki page of the event
23:08:09 <alexove> estamos dejando pasar mucho estas cosas
23:08:10 <echevemaster> yulytas:
23:08:11 <echevemaster> go ahead
23:08:11 <Richzendy> I've read the ticket, i don't know how to long is cusco from yulitas city or the prices to traveling in peru
23:08:15 <alexove> aun no he terminado
23:08:32 <Richzendy> but, if the ticket is expensive, the alternative can be a bus travel ?
23:08:34 <alexove> Estamos dejando pasar los tickets sin los procedimientos de costumbre
23:08:34 <yulytas> thanks echevemaster, I though that only events I owner deserve a ticket, but I could do it today if you want it
23:09:16 <alexove> y sin el tiempo necesario, hace algunos años no se dejaban pasar tickets de ultima hora y siempre se ha requerido la pagina de wiki que explica mejor las cosas
23:09:21 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy
23:09:23 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
23:09:23 <echevemaster> alexove: I'm not leaving pass the ticket, so, please consider talk abot you and not about us
23:09:46 <alexove> echevemaster no es el primer ticket que se ha votado de esa manera en estos ultimos meses
23:09:55 <echevemaster> yulytas: where is the wiki page?
23:09:58 * x3mboy Venezuela Chile
23:09:59 <yulytas> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki/FEDORAinCusco
23:10:06 <alexove> solo pongo en la palestra este problema
23:10:11 <alexove> eso es todo
23:10:12 <alexove> EOD
23:10:14 <alexove> EOF
23:10:15 <yulytas> I will upload the image from the GDG guys
23:10:19 <echevemaster> that is not a wiki page yulytas
23:10:39 <porfiriopaiz> !
23:10:41 <yulytas> what is a wiki page, if not?
23:10:47 <echevemaster> porfiriopaiz: go aheafd
23:11:07 * alexove : plop
23:11:20 <porfiriopaiz> It is clear the wiki page was made just seconds ago.
23:11:33 <mayorga> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Event_Wiki_Template
23:11:35 <echevemaster> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_organize_a_Fedora_event
23:11:36 <Richzendy> yulytas, is a wiki page, but with only 3 lines, you need to write about the event, and build a page with more information
23:11:39 <echevemaster> yulytas:
23:11:45 <porfiriopaiz> And this is how to not proceed.
23:12:03 <echevemaster> please, we'll discuss this ticket the next week
23:12:04 <Richzendy> yulytas, maybe a link to the event main page, write about your talk, etc ...
23:12:10 <echevemaster> please make the wiki page.
23:12:11 <alexove> echevemaster +1
23:12:32 <porfiriopaiz> There are procedure to follow and I dont see them in this ticket.
23:12:35 <yulytas> ok ok thanks Richzendy
23:12:38 <x3mboy> +1 to discuss when the information is complete
23:12:51 <echevemaster> alexove: one thing more
23:13:01 <porfiriopaiz> +1 when the info is complete.
23:13:09 <echevemaster> we had not discuss any ticket without wiki page at the last months
23:13:10 <alexove> soy todo ojos
23:13:26 <Richzendy> the bus ticket can be a reasonable option ?
23:13:30 <yulytas> I did
23:13:55 <echevemaster> yulytas: please answer the question
23:14:06 <echevemaster> #topic Swags for Peruvian Team
23:14:18 <itamarjp> Richzendy, too much time by bus, I don't tink this ticket is too much expensive
23:14:21 <yulytas> yes, I could have a partial sponsor of FEDORA
23:14:22 <alexove> echevemaster: en todo caso revisare los ultimos casos para que sea más real y me disculpo por haber exagerado las cosas
23:14:36 <yulytas> I could pay my hotel, my food and the have of my flight ticket
23:14:53 <echevemaster> yulytas: that it was not the question, the question is,you can travel by bus?
23:14:59 <echevemaster> alexove: thanks
23:15:08 <yulytas> I work so hard everyday and besides that I did almost 12 events to promote FEDORA without sponsor, so it is OK
23:15:14 <yulytas> yes
23:15:19 <Richzendy> itamarjp, ah ok, is good to know
23:15:20 <yulytas> I could
23:15:21 <alexove> yulytas: puedes especificar eso en la pagina de wiki por favor, tu ticket sera discutido la semana que viene
23:15:27 <yulytas> ok
23:15:27 <porfiriopaiz> itamarjp is right, yulytas, please upgrade the wiki then +1 from me :)
23:15:37 <yulytas> thank you guys
23:15:51 * alexove : Viajar de Lima a Cusco en bus son 22 horas
23:16:22 <echevemaster> I'll said something yulytas, please stop to jump around the processes, you had a lot of issues because you never follow the guidelines
23:16:27 <Richzendy> yulytas, no es por nada malo, solo es para considerar la opción, tal vez sea más fácil de aprobar si el costo es mucho menor, pero solo es una sugerencia, no se si realmente es más barato o si realmente vale la pena
23:16:33 <yulytas> I update the wiki
23:16:35 <yulytas> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki/FEDORAinCusco
23:16:59 <yulytas> I will ask for $50
23:17:06 <Richzendy> yulytas, en muchos países no existe mucha diferencia entre el costo de un ticket de bus y uno de avión
23:17:08 <yulytas> it is OK for traveling
23:17:25 <echevemaster> yulytas: we don't have any problem with the USD 94
23:17:29 <yulytas> hehe, in Peru it is $100 by plain and almost $50 by bus
23:17:39 <Richzendy> en otros puede suponer una diferencia de hasta uno 60%
23:17:47 <itamarjp> el evento es dia 25 proximo,
23:17:48 <echevemaster> only, for sake of God, follow the guidelines
23:17:53 <itamarjp> +1 to approve it today
23:17:55 <alexove> yulytas: revisa https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Event_Wiki_Template copia, pega y modifica
23:18:14 <Richzendy> <itamarjp> el evento es dia 25 proximo, <- esto cambia todo
23:18:22 <mayorga> Richzendy: Trip by bus is over 1K km. That is too long IMO.
23:18:49 <Richzendy> creo que podemos continuar otro punto mientras yulytas acomoda la página de wiki y consideramos al final, que opinan ?
23:18:50 <echevemaster> ok guys, you are willing to vote the Julitas's ticket today?
23:18:58 <echevemaster> Richzendy: agreed
23:18:59 <yulytas> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki/FEDORAinCusco#FEDORA_in_CUSCO
23:19:06 <Richzendy> echevemaster, me too
23:19:11 <yulytas> I did my wiki, please let me know if it is OK echevemaster
23:19:13 <x3mboy> Agreed
23:19:14 <echevemaster> the current topic is Swags for Peruvian team
23:19:31 <echevemaster> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/381
23:19:33 <alexove> mientras no esten las cosas claras pongo -1
23:19:44 * alexove saldra un momento y espera regresar pronto
23:19:46 <echevemaster> yulytas: please follow the template that alexove gave you
23:20:00 <yulytas> it is the same as Linux at UNI
23:20:51 <mayorga> +1
23:20:54 <echevemaster> alex is requesting  775.00 USD for produce swags in Peru
23:21:08 <echevemaster> please read the ticket and vote.
23:21:20 <mayorga> My vote is on yulytas's ticket.
23:21:55 <x3mboy> -1
23:22:27 <echevemaster> x3mboy: your vote is for?
23:22:36 <x3mboy> Swag
23:22:40 <itamarjp> -1 ( Julita has a ticket to produce Material, Can we do it using only one ticket  ? )
23:22:42 <x3mboy> This is the ticket
23:22:47 <x3mboy> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/38
23:22:50 <x3mboy> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/381
23:23:08 <x3mboy> It seems like Peruvian team need to discuss and cooperate between them
23:23:32 <echevemaster> that is my comment on both tickets x3mboy
23:23:38 <itamarjp> x3mboy, thats it you got it.
23:23:42 <x3mboy> I know yulytas is a great contributor and her work is great, but she is no alone
23:24:00 <itamarjp> same for other Peruvians.
23:24:07 <echevemaster> correct itamarjp
23:24:26 <x3mboy> Yes, make an effort to coordinate per country and produce swag in only one ticket
23:25:03 <echevemaster> so, my thoughts in these tickets is, first, please agreed between you
23:25:21 * alexove-pe esta en el móvil, puede que demore al contestar
23:25:44 <echevemaster> alexove-pe: yulytas and all the Peruvian team
23:25:47 <Richzendy> well, someone can close your own ticket and we can discuss the alive swag ticket
23:26:02 <echevemaster> please discuss about your tickets about swag
23:26:03 <yulytas> I found cheaper and good place to do the things
23:26:05 <Richzendy> and that can be done right now
23:26:05 <echevemaster> close one of them
23:26:19 <yulytas> $50 for 1000 stickers
23:26:27 <yulytas> $100 ballons millars
23:26:43 <echevemaster> yulytas: the vendor can receive Paypal payments?
23:26:54 <yulytas> I do not think so
23:27:02 <echevemaster> that is a problem
23:27:05 <yulytas> I went to the Lima center
23:27:07 <Richzendy> my two cents: i think Stamped DVD is not useful, you can delete that item an produce more pens, the pens are more useful
23:27:16 <alexove-pe> !
23:27:19 <echevemaster> yn1v will not send money if the vendor can not receive payments
23:27:22 <echevemaster> alexove-pe: go ahead
23:28:09 <Richzendy> <Richzendy> my two cents: i think Stamped DVD is not useful, you can delete that item an produce more pens, the pens are more useful  <- forget this, Im confused about pen / pendrive
23:28:20 <echevemaster> I mean yulytas if you can pay to the vendor, that it's ok, if not, yn1v (neville) can not send you money
23:28:42 <yulytas> in that case you can delete my ticket for swags and I will ask Bernanrdo if he is in charge in Lima
23:29:03 <echevemaster> yulytas: you can delete your own ticket
23:29:05 <yulytas> it is OK to me, I just put that I found a cheaper and good things
23:29:21 <yulytas> ok, I did not have any swags in three years
23:29:22 <echevemaster> same question for you alexove-pe
23:29:40 <yulytas> so I decided to ask this year because I do lots of events lately
23:29:52 <yulytas> people invited me to go to their universities and I go
23:30:01 <alexove-pe> Los que hicimos el ticket ya pusimos como bastante detalle lo que requerimos, lo más sencillo de hacer es que Julita coordine con bernardoha la cantidad que necesita y agregarlo a la lista
23:30:05 <yulytas> but I have now no stickers ni ballons anymore :(
23:30:32 <yulytas> ok, I do will do that alex
23:30:52 <yulytas> it is OK for me if bernardo is going to provide me merchandising
23:30:56 <itamarjp> +1 to have the ticket approved and Julita sharing some ballons with Cusco contributors.
23:30:57 <alexove-pe> Yulytas : nunca pediste swags y no te encontraste con ninguno de nosotros para compartir material
23:31:43 <yulytas> I did not know about that you have merchandising for all the ambassadors, please let me know by mail then
23:32:24 <yulytas> I have finished the wiki as alex wanted me to do it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki/FEDORAinCusco#FEDORA_in_CUSCO
23:32:32 <alexove-pe> Yo casi no tengo nada pero te puedo dar lo que tengo cuando llegues al Cusco
23:32:38 <echevemaster> the vendor can receive payments
23:32:38 <echevemaster> ?
23:32:46 <echevemaster> helllo
23:32:54 <echevemaster> I'm here
23:32:55 <echevemaster> ?
23:33:08 <echevemaster> hello
23:33:09 <echevemaster> ???
23:33:26 <x3mboy> echevemaster, what's up?
23:33:30 <echevemaster> alexove-pe:
23:33:32 <echevemaster> ?
23:33:47 <alexove-pe> Vamos a ver la mejor forma de producir todo
23:34:07 <alexove-pe> Puede que el fabricante acepte tarjeta de crédito
23:34:13 <alexove-pe> No PayPal
23:34:31 <echevemaster> yulytas: have you asked for swag the three last year?
23:35:01 <yulytas> for the events I organised, but not in general for all the events I have been invited
23:35:05 <echevemaster> x3mboy: sorryI was disconnected
23:35:11 <x3mboy> echevemaster, np
23:35:38 <echevemaster> ok, what was the decision alexove-pe yulytas
23:35:38 <echevemaster> ?
23:36:02 <yulytas> I think we agreed that I am going to receive the merchadising in CUsco
23:36:11 <yulytas> is that OK alex?
23:36:29 <alexove-pe> Creo que Yulytas dijo que si bernardoha le provee material estará de acuerdo con nuestro ticket
23:36:32 <yulytas> I am going to close my ticket since alex have one with people who have paypal
23:36:33 <echevemaster> alexove-pe:
23:36:34 <echevemaster> ?
23:36:54 <yulytas> esta bien, it is OK, anyone in Peru can give me that
23:37:17 <alexove-pe> Corrigeme si me equivoco
23:37:23 <yulytas> I found with people who has not paypal, so it is OK
23:37:38 <echevemaster> hello I'm here
23:37:39 <echevemaster> ?
23:38:03 <yulytas> dije que esta bien si cualquiera en Peru lo hace, si Bernardo o Alex cuando llegue al cusco
23:38:09 <echevemaster> ok.
23:38:20 <echevemaster> please, we will vote for the Yulitas ticket
23:38:23 <yulytas> estaria listo para la conferencia en Cusco? :O
23:39:16 * alexove-pe piensa que echevemaster esta cavando un túnel para llegar a Venezuela y por eso pierde la señal
23:39:34 <alexove-pe> Tengo pines y stickers que sobraron
23:39:46 <alexove-pe> Solo eso te puedo dar
23:40:40 <yulytas> y los globos?
23:40:49 <alexove-pe> No usamos globos
23:40:51 <yulytas> Itamar voted +1 for ballons
23:41:18 <itamarjp> +1 for entire ticket.
23:41:23 * alexove-pe por lo general no va ha fiestas infantiles Jajajaja :D
23:41:55 <alexove-pe> En todo caso Yulytas cierra tu ticket y votemos este
23:42:08 <alexove-pe> ¿Alguien con chair?
23:42:21 <yulytas> but Itamar esta votando por todo el ticket OK
23:42:46 <yulytas> my problem @itamar is that I can get cheaper and millars of things but the vendor do not use paypal
23:43:00 <porfiriopaiz> Richzendy itamarjp ping
23:43:13 <x3mboy> We need order, I'm not sure what everyone is talking about: Still with swag or back tu Cusco Event?
23:43:24 <yulytas> I have seen mayorga also said +1 for my flight ticket to Cusco, thanks @mayorga !
23:43:30 <Richzendy> yulytas, the itamarjp opinion is just one between a lot, the itamarjp is decisive just in case if itamarjp is a king of any kigdom
23:43:36 <Richzendy> porfiriopaiz, hello
23:43:47 <yulytas> hahahah ok Richzendy
23:44:04 <x3mboy> We need order, I'm not sure what everyone is talking about: Still with swag or back tu Cusco Event?
23:44:11 <echevemaster> sorry, my connection is  a shit
23:44:17 <alexove-pe> X3mboy los Swags no se lograrán producir para la semana que viene por eso le puedo dar solo lo que tengo
23:44:19 <porfiriopaiz> yulytas please, wait for mayorga to confirm his vote.
23:44:27 <Richzendy> echevemaster, don't worry about that
23:44:32 <alexove-pe> Y los globos no son necesarios
23:44:56 <x3mboy> alexove-pe, ok, I understand that, but please try to keep the conversation in topic
23:44:57 <tonet666p> .fas tonet666p
23:44:57 <echevemaster> please if I disconnect again Richzendy or itamarjp close the meeting
23:44:57 <zodbot> tonet666p: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' <tonet666p@gmail.com>
23:45:06 <Richzendy> yulytas, pienso que sus globos pueden ser agregados a una petición de swag global, los globos no tienen por que ser para todos, si solo usted los necesita
23:45:07 <tonet666p> ./ from Perú
23:45:07 <mayorga> Yes, I did vote +1 for yulytas' ticket on flight to Cusco.
23:45:16 * tonet666p from Perú
23:45:20 <yulytas> please do so ! :)
23:45:42 <x3mboy> Ticket to Cusco it's not indiscussion yet, we agreed to discuss it at the end
23:45:42 <Richzendy> yulytas, en todo caso, pienso que no pueden ser un gran costo
23:45:44 <yulytas> inlcude ballons, alex it is nice when people enjoy
23:46:19 <Richzendy> yulytas, y no se preocupe, ya hemos tenido globos en fedora incluso tatoos, en fedora nos gusta divertirnos también
23:46:42 <echevemaster> x3mboy: we are voting for swag or for the Jluitas ticket?
23:46:42 <yulytas> cool!
23:47:05 <Richzendy> ahora, mi pregunta es, usted necesita el swag de forma inmediata yulytas ?
23:47:20 <x3mboy> echevemaster, honestly I'm not sure anymore. I think people is voting for swag
23:47:24 <Richzendy> yulytas, o puede esperar a que se haga de manera global y acomodarse con lo que alexove-pe puede proveerle ?
23:47:29 <echevemaster> Richzendy: it's not possible produce swag inmediately
23:47:36 <yulytas> yes I can wait
23:47:51 <Richzendy> yulytas, entonces creo que la vía es que se haga de manera global y ordenada
23:47:53 <yulytas> si echevemaster, a mi me los dan en dos dias
23:48:08 <echevemaster> yulytas: and you will pay for that?
23:48:30 <yulytas> yes, I can
23:48:34 <Richzendy> yulytas, puede usted proceder a cerrar su ticket y plegarse a la petición de swag de los demás embajadores de perú y agregar adicionales en caso de que lo crea conveniente
23:48:43 <echevemaster> and you will wait for reimbursement?
23:48:51 <yulytas> yes echevemaster
23:49:20 <echevemaster> ok, who are agreed with Julita's for ask swag for herself
23:49:22 <echevemaster> or not
23:49:24 <Richzendy> echevemaster> and you will wait for reimbursement? <- si este es el caso, puede crear menos swag y esperar a que este listo el global
23:49:36 <echevemaster> Richzendy: that is the point
23:50:29 <echevemaster> ok, please decide
23:50:35 <Richzendy> cual es el ticket de petición de swag de yulytas ? yo revise este: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/38
23:50:37 <x3mboy> +1 to join to global and ask only for extras
23:50:40 <Richzendy> pero no veo cantidades
23:50:53 <x3mboy> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/381
23:51:10 <echevemaster> ok 18.51
23:51:17 <echevemaster> please decide or I'll close the meeting
23:51:30 <x3mboy> I vote already
23:51:39 <echevemaster> Richzendy:
23:51:40 <yulytas> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/378
23:51:42 <echevemaster> or vote
23:51:44 <x3mboy> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/378
23:51:45 <pionen> Can we vote on pagure then?
23:51:55 <Richzendy> pionen, not
23:52:16 <yulytas> ecehvemaster, I will pay the flight ticket to Cusco since the day is near and I want the price $94, the next week will be expensier
23:52:34 <echevemaster> ok, guys seems there are not consensus here
23:52:45 <echevemaster> yulytas: we are discussing swag not?
23:52:54 <yulytas> mayorga and Itamar said +1 to travel to Cusco
23:53:07 <yulytas> the swags are for Cusco too
23:53:26 <yulytas> and I think they also agreed ballons and stuff to take them to Cusco
23:53:36 <Richzendy> can we vote right now about? https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/378 ?
23:53:38 <x3mboy> yulytas, please stay on tipic. Swag for Peruvian Team
23:53:44 <echevemaster> that is the problem, you are not following the rules, you ask for two tickets, and you are waiting for have approved both, and all the guys are not decided because it's a disorder
23:53:47 <pionen> +1 to travel funds for Cusco.
23:53:50 <Richzendy> or we need any modification on this ticket ?
23:53:50 <echevemaster> so, there are not consensus
23:53:58 <Richzendy> what you think ambassadors ?
23:54:17 <yulytas> +3 to go to Cusco echevemaster, it is clear
23:54:23 <echevemaster> Richzendy: I'll close the meeting. The tickets was not made in the proper way
23:54:40 <yulytas> I put everythong you asked echevemaster
23:54:50 <yulytas> I do not understand what else is needed
23:54:54 <yulytas> just tell me
23:55:00 <yulytas> and I will do it
23:55:07 <echevemaster> yulytas: we are discussing this for a complete hour.
23:55:18 <x3mboy> Is it impossible for us to discuss one topic, without mix it with other???
23:55:24 <echevemaster> you are telling the people, please vote. vote, vote, vote
23:55:24 <Richzendy> echevemaster, well, if the votation is opened, my vote is +1 to 378 ?
23:55:27 <Richzendy> echevemaster, well, if the votation is opened, my vote is +1 to 378
23:55:28 <x3mboy> It's incredible...
23:55:28 <yulytas> because alex had another ticket
23:55:31 <tonet666p> i already voted on pagure, but i think it need to be botted by non peruvian guys
23:55:36 <echevemaster> and you are not discussing the topics
23:55:49 <echevemaster> you only ask two tickets approved
23:55:53 <echevemaster> that is not the way
23:56:11 <echevemaster> so if you want to vote in pagure go ahead
23:56:16 <echevemaster> thanks for attend
23:56:21 <echevemaster> #endmeeting