19:00:37 <jkurik> #startmeeting F26 Beta Readiness Meeting
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19:00:47 <jkurik> #meetingname f26-beta-readiness-meeting
19:00:47 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f26-beta-readiness-meeting'
19:00:47 <veon> hello everybody
19:00:56 <jkurik> #topic Roll Call
19:00:57 <jkurik> .hello jkurik
19:00:58 <zodbot> jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' <jkurik@redhat.com>
19:01:05 <mailga> .hello mailga
19:01:06 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <g.trombini@gmail.com>
19:01:08 <jkurik> #chair nirik dgilmore sgallagh adamw mailga mizmo paragan mattdm stickster bexelbie x3mboy roshi mboddu jflory7
19:01:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw bexelbie dgilmore jflory7 jkurik mailga mattdm mboddu mizmo nirik paragan roshi sgallagh stickster x3mboy
19:01:10 <jonatoni> .fas jonatoni
19:01:12 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
19:01:18 <nirik> morning
19:01:21 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy
19:01:22 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
19:01:26 <jkurik> Hi everyone
19:01:28 <x3mboy> morning
19:01:38 <roshi> .hello roshi
19:01:38 <x3mboy> Well, it's afternoon here
19:01:39 <zodbot> roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' <mruckman@redhat.com>
19:01:50 <jonatoni> hi :)
19:01:52 <veon> .hello veon
19:01:53 <zodbot> veon: veon 'Andrea Masala' <andrea.masala87@gmail.com>
19:01:59 <sgallagh> .hello sgallagh
19:02:00 <zodbot> sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' <sgallagh@redhat.com>
19:02:03 <bexelbie[m]> .hello bex
19:02:03 * bexelbie[m] is on mobile
19:02:03 <zodbot> bexelbie[m]: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com>
19:02:27 <jkurik> before we start lets do some formalities...
19:02:30 <jkurik> #topic Purpose of this meeting
19:02:32 <jkurik> #info Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated.
19:02:41 <jkurik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings
19:02:41 <adamw> .hello adamwill
19:02:43 <zodbot> adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam@redhat.com>
19:02:48 <jkurik> #topic Current status
19:02:58 <jkurik> #info Fedora 26 Beta is No-Go
19:03:04 <jkurik> #info The next Go/No-Go meeting is planned on Thursday, May 1st
19:03:30 <bexelbie[m]> June?
19:03:37 <mizmo> .hello duffy
19:03:38 <zodbot> mizmo: duffy 'Máirín Duffy' <fedora@linuxgrrl.com>
19:03:40 <jkurik> #undo
19:03:40 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by jkurik at 19:03:04 : The next Go/No-Go meeting is planned on Thursday, May 1st
19:03:46 <jkurik> #info The next Go/No-Go meeting is planned on Thursday, June 1st
19:03:51 <jkurik> bexelbie[m]: thanks
19:04:19 <jkurik> #topic Design
19:04:21 <jkurik> I have seen an email from luya about finished wallpapers/backgrounds, so I expect we are fine...
19:04:26 <jkurik> mizmo: May I ask you please to confirm or update us on the current status ?
19:04:45 * sgallagh will be unable to attend the next Go/No-Go meeting.
19:05:04 <jkurik> sgallagh: we will be missing you
19:05:14 <mizmo> hey jkurik, sure
19:05:20 <sgallagh> jkurik: Aim more carefully
19:05:21 <mizmo> so for design, there is a bug that involves a few different parts
19:05:28 <mizmo> we have a freeze exception for it, i'm not 100% sure all the components are in
19:05:34 <mizmo> we have an updated fedora-logos package
19:05:39 <mizmo> an updated f26-backgrounds
19:05:47 <mizmo> and theres a gnome package related to the background overlay plugin for the logo that needs an update too
19:06:02 <adamw> if you can put the info on what all is required in the bug, that'd be great
19:06:18 <adamw> i didn't pay that bug any special attention so far, so what's requested for the RC at present is just whatever updates are listed as 'fixing' it
19:06:26 <mizmo> i think fedora-logos doesnt have karma to be autopushed. it was updated tuesday. the f26-backgrounds was updated last friday. i dont know if the gnome stuff was updated yet, its florians bug
19:06:41 <jkurik> mizmo: do you consider these bugs as blocking for the release ?
19:06:50 <mizmo> adamw: ok cool i can list the package versions i know?
19:07:23 <adamw> mizmo: yeah, in the bug would be great
19:07:25 <mizmo> the bz is 1441844 for reference
19:07:25 <mizmo> jkurik: i wouldn't block it for them no
19:07:26 <mizmo> jkurik: but without them the wallpaper will look off and the logo won't be visible
19:07:27 <mizmo> so it's a visible thing people will notice
19:07:45 <adamw> sounds like a final blocker
19:07:55 <roshi> yeah
19:07:56 <adamw> there's a criterion about 'the intended artwork' or something like that
19:08:06 <mizmo> yeh def a final blocker
19:08:10 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1441844
19:08:19 <mizmo> does anybody know what package is involve din the display of the fedora logo?
19:08:58 <nirik> gnome-shell-extension-background-logo
19:09:10 <nirik> I think
19:09:45 <nirik> I don't see any new builds of it tho
19:09:56 <mizmo> thi sis the file we have to change
19:09:59 <mizmo> background-logo-extension-3.22.0-original/schemas/org.fedorahosted.background-logo-extension.gschema.xml background-logo-extension-3.22.0/schemas/org.fedorahosted.background-logo-extension.gschema.xml
19:10:06 <mizmo> er that double pasted, sorry
19:10:22 <jkurik> #info There are some issues with background overlay plugin for the logo. These are not considered as blockers for Beta release however might affect Final release if not solved.
19:10:24 <mizmo> nirik: nope he's waiting on the fedora-logos package to get pushed from testing into stable i guess? because he needs that file to refer to in his xml
19:10:44 <nirik> ok. could do a buildroot override and push them together...
19:11:03 <mizmo> ok ill mention that in the bug
19:11:34 <jkurik> #info The bug 1441844 already have AcceptedFreezeException to get into the F26 Beta RC compose.
19:12:00 <jkurik> #action mizmo to describe details of these issues in the refferenced bug
19:12:07 <jkurik> thanks mizmo
19:12:34 <jkurik> #topic Infrastructure
19:12:36 <jkurik> nirik:  Any known issues which might block us from releasing F26 Beta ?
19:12:47 <mizmo> sure
19:13:08 <nirik> There is an ongoing slowdown in our storage thats making things slower than normal. Otherwise everything should be ready
19:13:23 <nirik> There's a ticket out with storage folks and they are looking into that
19:14:21 <jkurik> #info Infrastructure team is experiencing ongoing slowdown in storage thats making things slower than normal. People from the team are already looking into the issue.
19:14:41 <jkurik> #info This is not considered as a blocking issue for the F26 Beta
19:14:53 <jkurik> thanks nirik
19:14:57 <nirik> no problem.
19:15:07 <jkurik> #topic Ambassadors
19:15:09 <jkurik> jonatoni: may I ask you please for the readiness update from Ambassadors POV ?
19:15:18 <jkurik> Is there anything Ambassadors are aware of what might block us from releasing F26 Beta ?
19:16:07 <jkurik> ah, we have mailga as well
19:16:16 <jonatoni> afaik we dont have something that might block the 26 release
19:16:17 <mailga> We're up to date, there are no blocking issues from the ambassadors side.
19:16:22 <jonatoni> right mailga?
19:16:52 <mailga> that's right.
19:17:09 <jkurik> #info Ambassadors are up to date; there are no blocking issues from the ambassadors side.
19:17:24 <jkurik> ok, thanks, that is fine
19:17:39 <jkurik> #topic Documentation
19:17:50 <jkurik> bexelbie: can you please provide us with readiness status for Documentation ?
19:18:11 <bexelbie[m]> Branching is not complete but will be easy to complete. We believe we can publish docs with the correct version number but this needs to be verified. POT files have not been generated but shouldn't be a problem. I don't think this should be a beta blocker, but I don't know what conditions docs blocks for beta. This is a concern for the final release.
19:19:08 <bexelbie[m]> This presumes the use of the existing publishing system for F26 and any changes happening for F27
19:19:48 <jkurik> #info Branching and generation of POT files is delayed, however these issues are not considered as blockers for Beta release. These issues will concern for Final release if not fixed.
19:20:06 <bexelbie[m]> Did I drop or did my message not transmit?
19:20:12 <adamw> note, we don't have anything in the criteria about docs at all, really; it's never been considered.
19:20:23 <jkurik> bexelbie[m]: thanks
19:20:51 <bexelbie[m]> We should consider adding docs criteria in the future
19:21:20 <jkurik> adamw: it is not in blocker criterias, however according schedule these tasks should be ready for Beta release
19:21:39 <jkurik> so, it is not blocking, but we need to keep an eye on it
19:21:55 <adamw> well, there can be other processes for blocking stuff than the release criteria, like the fesco exception
19:22:01 <adamw> just noting we've never considered it in that context
19:22:09 <bexelbie[m]> I can't think of many reasons to block the beta on docs. There are a few.
19:22:21 <jkurik> bexelbie[m]: thanks for all the information
19:22:37 <bexelbie[m]> You're welcome
19:22:42 <jkurik> #topic FESCo
19:22:45 <jkurik> nirik, sgallagh, dgilmore, jwb, maxamillion, jsmith, kalev, paragan, rathann: anyone of you wants to speak in the name of FESCo ?
19:22:54 <nirik> no blockers from fesco I am aware of.
19:23:02 <jwb> erm
19:23:04 <jkurik> \o/
19:23:37 <sgallagh> I have nothing that hasn't been communicated via the standard blocker process
19:23:40 <jwb> nirik, i agree, but i wonder if resolution on the firefox issue might evolve into a blocker
19:23:47 <jwb> i honestly can't tell at this point
19:24:07 <nirik> perhaps. not clear... and I don't think it will by beta...
19:24:16 <jkurik> jwb: it will go through std. blocker process, right ?
19:24:17 <jwb> i'd like it not to be for beta
19:24:25 <jwb> jkurik: i suspect so
19:24:42 <jkurik> ok
19:24:54 <jkurik> #info There are no blocking issues FESCo is aware of.
19:24:58 <sgallagh> I am not speaking on that topic right now.
19:25:28 <adamw> what 'firefox issue' is this?
19:26:25 <nirik> adamw: that it doesn't build on all the arches we support... and it's unclear when it will for some of them
19:26:51 <adamw> oh, right. we fixed it for the primary arches though, right?
19:26:55 <nirik> but it does build currently on all the ones we block on, so...
19:26:58 <adamw> yeah.
19:28:25 * sgallagh leaves to pick up his kid from the bus
19:28:30 <jkurik> #info There are concerns about https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1707 - we need to watch this, however this is not considered as a blocker for Beta atm.
19:28:36 <jkurik> sgallagh: thanks
19:29:06 <jkurik> nirik, sgallagh, jwb: thanks
19:29:18 <jkurik> #topic Marketing
19:29:20 <jkurik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F26_Beta_release_announcement
19:29:27 <jkurik> x3mboy: may I ask you for the Marketing status, please ?
19:30:05 <x3mboy> There is no issues in Marketing that can be considered a blocker issue
19:30:16 <x3mboy> We are working in the Beta Release announcement
19:30:38 <x3mboy> You can preview it here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F26_Beta_release_announcement
19:31:09 <x3mboy> The same announcement will be sent to the Magazine to be published when Beta is ready to go
19:31:18 <jkurik> #info The Marketing is working on Beta Release announcement. There are no know issues that can be considered as blockers.
19:31:19 <x3mboy> Please feel free to review and comment
19:32:22 <jkurik> #info The Beta Release announcement is going to be publised in as an article Fedora Magazine. A help to review it is appreciated.
19:32:31 <jkurik> x3mboy: thanks
19:32:40 <mattdm> x3mboy++
19:32:41 <zodbot> mattdm: Karma for x3mboy changed to 28 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
19:32:52 <jkurik> #topic Fedora Engineering Manager
19:32:54 <jkurik> stickster: are you aware of any issue possibly blocking the F26 Beta release ?
19:33:53 <jkurik> ah, we do not have stickster today. Lets move on I will check off-line
19:34:05 <jkurik> #topic Fedora Project Leader
19:34:06 <jkurik> mattdm: shall we go on with the release, or is there anything you might consider as a blocking issue ?
19:36:51 <bexelbie[m]> I believe he may be in a meeting.
19:37:02 <jkurik> Looks like we have lost mattdm for a while. I will move on and return back when mattdm is availabe...
19:37:02 <bexelbie[m]> So he blocked from the blocker conversation :)
19:37:23 <jkurik> #undo
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19:37:34 <jkurik> #topic QA
19:37:35 <jkurik> roshi, adamw - anyone can provide us with a readiness update ?
19:38:17 <adamw> well, aside from having nothing to test, we're fine :)
19:38:29 <jkurik> :)
19:38:58 <adamw> test coverage on nightlies is looking decent at a glance
19:38:59 <bexelbie[m]> Is that an all pass or all fail situation? :)
19:39:06 <roshi> yeah
19:39:06 <adamw> we're all set to test an RC when one actually shows up
19:39:11 <adamw> bexelbie: yes!
19:39:21 <roshi> until we have a compose, not much we can do
19:39:38 <adamw> we can always run the tests on the latest validation compose
19:39:44 <adamw> make sure we have everything covered
19:39:58 <jkurik> #info QA is ready to test F26 Beta RC compose once it is ready. Test coverage on nightlies is looking decent at a glance.
19:40:04 <adamw> we *are* still missing AD enrolment tests, sigh
19:40:12 <jkurik> adamw, roshi: thanks
19:40:24 <roshi> np np
19:40:35 <jkurik> #topic Release Engineering
19:40:36 <jkurik> dgilmore, mboddu: beside of the fact, there is no RC, is there anything you see as an issue with the F26 Beta readiness ?
19:41:45 <mboddu> jkurik: Other than no RC we dont have exactly anything else blocking, but we need fixes for the exciting 5 blockers
19:42:35 <jkurik> #info Other than no RC Release Engineering dont have exactly anything else blocking.
19:42:43 <jkurik> mboddu: ok, thanks a lot
19:43:02 <jkurik> #topic Websites
19:43:04 <jkurik> sentairanger, veon: as robyduck is not available, may I ask you please for an update ?
19:43:38 <veon> yes, jkurik
19:43:48 <veon> no issues for us, websites are ready
19:44:35 <veon> for the Beta release obv
19:44:45 <jkurik> #info Websites are ready for the F26 Beta release, no issues so far
19:44:52 <jkurik> veon: excellent
19:44:54 <jkurik> thanks
19:45:08 <veon> yw, thanks
19:45:21 <jkurik> #topic Translations
19:45:23 <jkurik> I have received an email from paragan, stating readiness for F26 Beta as follows:
19:45:24 <jkurik> <email part>
19:45:33 <jkurik> AFAIK there are currently no issues that requires to block the release. Hence you can consider Translation team status as "we are fine".
19:45:35 <jkurik> </email part>
19:45:45 <jkurik> However paragan also expressed some difficulties the team is facing after noriko has left the team. I will take an action to talk to some people and request a help for the team.
19:46:02 <jkurik> #info Translation team is fine with the F26 Beta release
19:46:04 <jkurik> #action jkurik to help the Translation team with takeover of noriko’s work
19:46:46 <bexelbie[m]> Jkurik can you loop me in on that too please
19:46:57 <jkurik> bexelbie[m]: sure
19:47:07 <jkurik> #topic CommOps
19:47:08 <jkurik> There are no direct deliverables for the F26 Beta release from CommOps team, however I would like to give a room to team representatives to express their POV.
19:47:09 <bexelbie[m]> It came up in my area earlier and I'd like to work on it together.
19:47:15 <bexelbie[m]> Thank you
19:47:30 <jkurik> Is there anyone from the CommOps team to provide an F26 Readiness update of the team ?
19:47:31 <jkurik> bt0dotninja, jflory7: any update ?
19:48:04 <bexelbie[m]> I can offer that there are no blockers. The community blog publishing issues are being worked on.
19:49:17 <jkurik> #info Community blog publishing issues are being worked on, however there are no blockers.
19:49:27 <jkurik> bexelbie[m]: thank you
19:49:41 <jkurik> lets check FPL once more ...
19:49:52 <jkurik> #topic Fedora Project Leader
19:50:54 <jkurik> I have received off-line status update from mattdm:
19:50:59 <bexelbie[m]> Before the meeting he wrote: jkurik: I'm also going to be in a meeting. FPL status is "good to go; will have even better annoucnements ready for after a week's slip, so that's not all bad"
19:51:00 <jkurik> "good to go; will have even better annoucnements ready for after a week's slip, so that's not all bad"
19:51:33 <jkurik> #info FPL is good to go; will have even better annoucnements ready for after a week's slip, so that's not all bad
19:51:46 <jkurik> so, that is all I guess
19:51:58 <jkurik> #topic Open floor
19:52:00 <jkurik> anything else anyone would like to discuss ?
19:52:17 <veon> !
19:53:03 <jkurik> veon: does it mean you have something ?
19:53:20 <veon> yes, once
19:53:23 <veon> robyduck, says me: Thanks releng for having the underscore in their conf file
19:53:39 <jkurik> :)
19:53:43 <veon> eof
19:53:45 <veon> =)
19:54:06 <jkurik> veon: May I ask you please to open a releng ticket for this ?
19:54:23 <jkurik> mboddu: what do you think ? ^^^
19:54:25 <mboddu> veon: I did a double check of it when I am creating the configs
19:54:36 <dgilmore> jkurik: its already correct
19:54:42 <jkurik> ah, great
19:54:56 <veon> ah ok :D
19:55:16 <jkurik> looks like we are done for this meeting
19:55:23 <jkurik> enything else ?
19:55:44 <x3mboy> Just to thanks the amazing work everybody does for this project!
19:55:50 <x3mboy> jkurik++
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19:55:59 <x3mboy> Thanks for chairing
19:56:05 <veon> x3mboy++
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19:56:11 <veon> jkurik++
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19:56:14 <x3mboy> I need to rush out
19:56:19 <x3mboy> veon++
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19:56:21 <bexelbie[m]> Thank you jkurik for running this.
19:56:48 <veon> thanks at all
19:56:57 <jkurik> Thanks everybody for showing up here and all of you for your contribution to the Fedora project.
19:57:04 <jkurik> #endmeeting