23:08:30 <alexove> #startmeeting Fedora Latam Meeting
23:08:30 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat May 27 23:08:30 2017 UTC.  The chair is alexove. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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23:08:58 <alexove> #meetingname Fedora Latam Ambassadors Meeting 2017-05-27
23:08:58 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_latam_ambassadors_meeting_2017-05-27'
23:09:08 <alexove> #topic rollcall
23:09:13 <alexove> .fas alexove
23:09:14 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
23:09:21 * alexove = Peru
23:09:27 <douglax> .fas douglax
23:09:28 <zodbot> douglax: aacosta 'Alejandro Acosta' <alxacostaa@gmail.com>
23:09:34 <porfiriopaiz> .fas porfiriopaiz
23:09:34 <zodbot> porfiriopaiz: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco' <porfiriopaiz@gmail.com>
23:09:42 <porfiriopaiz> From Managua in Nicaragua.
23:10:01 * douglax from México
23:11:06 * alexove says Let's wait a little for the others
23:14:28 <itamarjp> .fas itamarjp
23:14:29 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
23:14:37 <mayorga> .hello mayorga
23:14:38 <zodbot> mayorga: mayorga 'Eduardo Augusto Mayorga' <e@mayorgalinux.com>
23:16:46 <alexove> It seems that not quorum
23:16:54 <alexove> let's wait for 5 min please
23:20:35 <itamarjp> lets move on, I don't think anyone will come.
23:21:18 <alexove> There are not quorum, so let's move to open floor
23:21:24 <alexove> #topic openfloor
23:21:53 <juancarloslin> .hellomynameis lin
23:21:55 <zodbot> juancarloslin: lin 'Juan Carlos YJ Lin' <lin@unisoft.com.py>
23:21:55 <alexove> Are there any announcement?
23:23:00 <alexove> juancarloslin: Where are you from?
23:23:32 <juancarloslin> Hi, from Paraguay
23:24:25 <itamarjp> alexove, he is one of responsible for our FUDCon Bid.
23:25:01 <alexove> Great, We have quorum :-)
23:25:09 <juancarloslin> Nice...
23:25:31 <alexove> Anyone has any announcement?
23:26:36 <alexove> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issues?status=Open&tags=Meeting
23:26:42 <alexove> This is the agenda
23:27:14 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy
23:27:14 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
23:27:30 <x3mboy> Sorry, I'm late
23:27:33 <alexove> x3mboy: o/
23:27:47 <x3mboy> alexove: o/
23:27:53 <alexove> #topic ticket 377
23:28:05 <alexove> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/377
23:28:38 <alexove> x3mboy: What's about this ticket?
23:29:22 <x3mboy> Well, all comments were about to don't have a central domain
23:29:47 <juancarloslin> I think sould execute it yet., kill al old, and make a central one
23:30:02 <x3mboy> I think we can close it and for each country that want a xx.fc.o individual tickets
23:30:05 <juancarloslin> Last time we talk about was 2 week for execution
23:31:41 <alexove> People, if you want to talk, do not forget raise the hand (!)
23:32:24 <alexove> x3mboy: So, Can we close this ticket?
23:34:11 <alexove> x3mboy?
23:34:53 <alexove> #action alexove will close the ticket 377
23:35:21 <juancarloslin> +1
23:35:25 <x3mboy> Yes. Please
23:35:32 <alexove> #topic ticket 384
23:35:37 <alexove> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/384
23:35:56 <alexove> I think this tickets talks about the ticket 406
23:36:02 <alexove> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/406
23:36:29 <x3mboy> Yes, there is a new one about the same
23:37:06 <x3mboy> So, you can close one
23:37:23 <alexove> so, Can we close it and support the latest ticket?
23:37:31 <x3mboy> And we should work only in one
23:37:32 <x3mboy> Yes
23:38:04 <alexove> #action alexove will close ticket 384
23:38:28 <alexove> #topic Ticket 390
23:38:37 <alexove> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/390
23:41:53 <alexove> It seems williamjmorenor  is not here to talk about this ticket
23:41:56 <alexove> let's move on
23:42:20 <alexove> #topic Ticket 402
23:42:24 <alexove> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/402
23:42:36 <alexove> Itamarjp please :-)
23:43:35 <itamarjp> I think having an active mentor in our region will help LATAM grow
23:44:55 <itamarjp> We have good mentors for packaging, translation, ambassador group has some space for improvements.
23:45:03 <itamarjp> if anyone else is interested in becoming a mentor please let know,
23:46:11 <itamarjp> in the appropriate time we are going to send the names for approval.
23:46:23 <alexove> Are there any deadline?
23:46:27 <x3mboy> !
23:46:38 <alexove> go ahead x3mboy
23:47:45 <x3mboy> I can't link my comment
23:47:47 <x3mboy> Sorry
23:48:06 <x3mboy> But the idea is that we should define some rules for mentors
23:48:52 <x3mboy> One of the rules I think is really important for a mentor is to right and speak in English
23:49:18 <juancarloslin> !
23:49:28 <x3mboy> s/right/write/g
23:49:49 <x3mboy> And this rules should be written in the wiki for easy reading
23:49:51 <x3mboy> EOF
23:49:55 * alexove people, don't forget finish with EOF
23:50:04 <alexove> juancarloslin go ahead
23:50:40 <juancarloslin> Agree with itamarjp, a latam mentor will help.
23:50:54 <juancarloslin> I saw 2 offers to mentor,
23:51:12 <juancarloslin> just be sure that have time to the chanlenge
23:51:14 <juancarloslin> eof
23:51:22 <itamarjp> !
23:51:30 <alexove> go ahead itamarjp
23:52:28 <itamarjp> one mission of being mentor is to teach/recruit new users/contributors, but some people stop doing that and stay in the seat
23:52:55 <itamarjp> EOF
23:52:57 <juancarloslin> !
23:53:16 <x3mboy> !
23:53:41 <alexove> go ahead x3mboy
23:54:05 <itamarjp> FAmSCo fixed that, and we can have new and fresh mentors now.
23:55:06 <x3mboy> IMHO a mentor missions is not to recruit. It's to help interested contributors to became ambassadors
23:55:16 <porfiriopaiz> x3mboy++
23:55:44 <x3mboy> Help them to know the structures, the governance, and the inside part of the project
23:56:01 <x3mboy> Recruit new users is the mission of ambassadors
23:56:09 <x3mboy> EOF
23:56:31 <alexove> !
23:56:41 <alexove> I think that the requirements proposed by x3mboy are with good intentions but can obstruct the recruitment of new mentors.
23:56:47 <alexove> Mentors are "regional" that means that people in Latin America will first seek the mentors next to their place of residence (who speak their own language)
23:57:35 <alexove> But it is also important to note that each has a role, ambassadors recruit collaborators and promote fedora and mentors help new ambassadors to join the team
23:57:52 <alexove> Thanks for the comments x3mboy
23:57:53 <alexove> EOF
23:58:50 <alexove> So if anyone wants to propose himself or propose to other people should talk with itamarjp
23:59:13 <alexove> #topic Ticket 406
23:59:18 <alexove> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/406
23:59:34 <alexove> alyaj2a please :-)
00:00:47 <alyaj2a> Hola amigos
00:01:09 <alyaj2a> Bueno el ticket trata sobre hacer el swag para todo latam
00:01:54 <alyaj2a> Se que no tenemos presupuesto,pero pienso q debemos estar trabajando en el diseño, cantidades, material y el tipo de swag
00:04:05 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_latam
00:07:20 <itamarjp> swap for entire LATAM is a too much complicated stuff, I think per country is enough
00:08:45 <alexove> Itamarjp, the main idea is to produce the swags in US by bex and send it to all latam
00:09:43 <itamarjp> juancarloslin, can receive in Paraguay, you can receive in Peru, but I am not sure about other places
00:09:43 <juancarloslin> !
00:09:48 <alexove> sin any case, is important to fill the wiki page to know the entire swags requeriment
00:09:54 <alexove> go ahead juancarloslin
00:11:24 <juancarloslin> the main target is to get lower cost, please check is that applys to countries like Brazil, ship from USA can become more expensive.
00:11:35 <juancarloslin> will be nice if all countries check that info before
00:11:38 <juancarloslin> eof
00:14:17 <alexove> juancarloslin++
00:14:33 <alexove> any comment about this ticket?
00:15:46 <alexove> #topic Ticket 407
00:15:53 <alexove> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/407
00:16:05 <alexove> People this is my ticket :-)
00:16:44 <alexove> As you know, I was working in this proposal to get a FAD in Peru
00:17:43 <alexove> Some people made me some suggestion and I modified the wiki page
00:18:10 <alexove> We are working to improve the proposal and get a cheaper place
00:18:56 <alexove> If someone wants to help please first read the wiki page
00:19:02 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Cusco2017
00:19:31 <juancarloslin> !
00:19:52 <alexove> and send suggets to me to incorporate it in the proposal
00:19:57 <alexove> go ahead juancarloslin
00:20:19 <x3mboy> !
00:20:32 <juancarloslin> Just to understand, any Ambassador can attend? or just one iwth some specific roles
00:21:03 <juancarloslin> Community impact issues is very interesting item I like to face with
00:21:04 <juancarloslin> eof
00:22:20 <alexove> juancarloslin, as you know the resources are limited and put some names of active/influential ambassadors
00:23:00 <alexove> in their countries, for example itamarjp is an old brazilian ambassador and famsco member
00:23:16 <alexove> He is very active and influential in Brazil
00:23:32 <alexove> and the rest of ambassadors in that list
00:23:43 <itamarjp> juancarloslin is also a very active contributor from Paraguay and a very skilled guy.
00:23:52 <juancarloslin> alexove++
00:24:19 <itamarjp> juancarloslin and silviopalmieri made the proposal of having a FUDCon in Latinoware this year
00:25:28 <alexove> great, I will make numbers this night and maybe put to juancarloslin into FAD proposal
00:25:48 <alexove> His country has not a representative
00:26:01 <alexove> itamarjp, What do you think?
00:26:03 <alexove> :-)
00:26:36 <itamarjp> I already made my suggestion, if you move it to Lima more people can attend.
00:27:59 <itamarjp> alexove, what do you think about ?
00:28:19 <alexove> about include to juancarloslin in the list of ambassadors
00:28:50 <itamarjp> alexove, my opinion is that more people is better.
00:29:11 <x3mboy> How do you select 'influential' ambassadors for each country?
00:29:20 <x3mboy> Based in what?
00:30:27 <alexove> x3mboy: Activity, seniority and presence
00:30:53 <x3mboy> Interesting
00:31:13 <x3mboy> I have 2 years living in Chile, both working in the project
00:31:35 <alexove> Or in some cases have that potential to achieve it in the future, like in Bolivia and Paraguay now
00:31:40 <x3mboy> And I don't know Antoniosalles
00:32:11 <juancarloslin> !
00:32:14 <alexove> si no estas de acuerdo con alguien puedes sugerir a otra persona
00:32:25 <x3mboy> Have more presence either Roy or Larry
00:32:32 <alexove> We know him, he attend FUDCon last year
00:32:36 <x3mboy> OK, I will
00:32:43 <alexove> x3mboy++
00:32:53 <alexove> go ahead juancarloslin
00:33:01 <x3mboy> EOF
00:33:25 <juancarloslin> Just to explain my intentions:
00:33:58 <juancarloslin> I have been  aroud the project since 1998, and move until now 6 big companies into Fedora Desktop
00:34:36 <juancarloslin> But have several issues about the impact of the project in the community
00:35:09 <juancarloslin> And like to share that and undesrtand what I am doing wrong of right, to better the presence of the project in Paraguay
00:35:25 <juancarloslin> EOF
00:35:46 <alexove> juancarloslin++
00:36:17 <itamarjp> alexove, the main question to have your event approved is the purpose and the results for the project
00:37:26 <alexove> Itamarjp, I updated the wiki page and the purpose and goals are there
00:37:39 <itamarjp> :-)
00:37:57 <alexove> Obviously I need a little of work there and more suggestion to get a impact full FAD
00:38:03 <alexove> let's move on
00:38:32 <alexove> #topic 408
00:38:36 <alexove> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/408
00:38:51 <alexove> This is my ticket too :-)
00:39:18 <alexove> The event named CONECIT is a biggest event in Peru
00:39:36 <alexove> and WILL BE IN AUGUST
00:39:56 <juancarloslin> !
00:40:36 <alexove> but the organizing team needs to confirm our participation to include us in the schedule
00:41:26 <alexove> We want to put these tickets into next quarter's budget but we need the approvation now
00:42:22 <alexove> the total ammount of all participants will 770 USD (airfares, hostel and taxes included)
00:42:35 <alexove> go ahead juancarloslin
00:42:38 <juancarloslin> see more similar tikets, will be good see them together?
00:43:27 <juancarloslin> but seems to be a intersting meeting
00:43:31 <juancarloslin> eof
00:44:32 <alexove> Folks, do you agree to vote for all the tickets together?
00:44:38 <alexove> +1
00:44:43 <juancarloslin> +1
00:45:27 <itamarjp> +1
00:48:06 <alexove> anyone else?
00:48:11 <alexove> #topic tickets 408, 409, 410, 411, 412
00:48:31 <x3mboy> -1
00:48:57 <x3mboy> Suggest: vote in tickets, not in meetings
00:49:42 <alexove> Does anyone else agree with him?
00:50:02 * alexove needs an answer today to comfirm to organizing team ASAP
00:50:12 <porfiriopaiz> Let's vote on tickets.
00:50:23 <juancarloslin> !
00:50:34 <alexove> go ahead juancarloslin
00:51:41 <juancarloslin> I sugested seem the together as same event, but anyone can agree or disagree with a ticket it self. Just do no see a valid reason to aprove to attend a event and then reject some person
00:52:05 <juancarloslin> eof
00:53:22 <alexove> thanks juancarloslin
00:54:01 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Conecit:tingo_maria_2017
00:54:03 <juancarloslin> +1
00:54:55 <alexove> Does anyone have any comments on this topic?
00:56:16 <alexove> So, let's vote, those who agree to approve these tickets write +1
00:56:22 <alexove> +1
00:56:33 <x3mboy> I need to run
00:56:37 <x3mboy> Bye team
00:56:41 <x3mboy> Good night
00:57:33 <alexove> ping itamarjp, juarcarloslin
00:57:40 <juancarloslin> +1
00:57:54 <itamarjp> +1
00:58:52 <alexove> ping porfiriopaiz, douglax
01:02:40 <porfiriopaiz> +1
01:02:48 <porfiriopaiz> :) sorry
01:02:56 <alexove> We have 4(+1)
01:03:07 <alexove> thanks porfiriopaiz
01:03:54 <alexove> #agreed tickets 408,409,410,411,412 approved
01:04:06 <alexove> #undo
01:04:06 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: AGREED by alexove at 01:03:54 : tickets 408,409,410,411,412 approved
01:04:13 <alexove> #agreed tickets 408,409,410,411,412 approved (4,0,0)
01:04:26 <alexove> #topic openfloor (again)
01:04:51 <juancarloslin> !
01:04:54 <alexove> Are there any comments or announcements?
01:05:02 <alexove> go ahead juancarloslin
01:05:05 <juancarloslin> today meeting is long, sugest close it
01:05:12 <alexove> Ok
01:05:17 <itamarjp> juancarloslin++
01:05:20 <alexove> closing meeting in
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01:05:30 <alexove> #endmeeting