15:00:23 <robyduck> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2017-05-31
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15:00:26 <robyduck> #meetingname famsco
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15:00:31 <robyduck> #topic Roll Call
15:00:36 <mailga> .fas mailga
15:00:36 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <g.trombini@gmail.com>
15:00:51 <robyduck> #chair mailga itamarjp fredlima jonatoni
15:00:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: fredlima itamarjp jonatoni mailga robyduck
15:01:02 <jonatoni> .fas jonatoni
15:01:03 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
15:01:03 <itamarjp> .fas itamarjp
15:01:05 * mailga have to go in 15 minutes....
15:01:06 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
15:01:49 <fredlima> .fas fredlima
15:01:51 <zodbot> fredlima: fredlima 'Frederico Henrique Gonçalves Lima' <fred@fredericolima.com.br>
15:01:51 <robyduck> hi all
15:01:54 <fredlima> hi
15:02:05 <robyduck> would be nice to finish the mentor thing finally
15:02:27 <robyduck> #topic Mentor nomination and removal process
15:03:30 <robyduck> mailga: the draft on the wiki looks good, I would just drop the last sentence and look out for other wordings where you just copied the "I would" from the proposal
15:03:46 <robyduck> mailga: do you have anything to add there?
15:04:26 <mailga> robyduck: not at all, I thought I have changed all the "personal" forms.
15:04:45 <robyduck> :)
15:05:03 <robyduck> did you all give a look at the draft too?
15:05:09 <robyduck> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors/NewMentors
15:05:13 <jonatoni> yep I saw it too
15:06:19 <robyduck> I think except fir the last sentence we can go for it, if there aren't any objections
15:06:25 <robyduck> s/fir/for
15:08:42 <robyduck> let's vote to approve it then
15:08:48 <jonatoni> +1, I agree with you about that
15:08:51 <robyduck> +1
15:09:05 <robyduck> itamarjp: fredlima ?
15:09:09 <fredlima> +1
15:09:13 <robyduck> mailga: I guess you agree on your stuff?
15:09:19 <robyduck> ;)
15:09:22 <itamarjp> +1
15:09:36 <mailga> +1
15:10:00 <robyduck> #agreed The new rules for mentor nominations and removal process are now in place and written in the wiki
15:10:06 <robyduck> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors/NewMentors
15:10:26 <robyduck> #action mailga to remove the "draft" disclaimer and the last sentence
15:11:02 <robyduck> unfortunately giannisk is not around, do we have the list of active mentors? Maybe nb has it?
15:11:13 <robyduck> nb: ^
15:11:43 <robyduck> (no luck today)
15:11:59 <robyduck> mailga: do you have any topics to discuss, as you are going to leave?
15:13:17 <mailga> No, I haven't any atm.
15:14:14 <robyduck> ok, others? I didn't send out any agenda, the plan was to have the LATAM FAD now
15:15:05 <fredlima> itamarjp?
15:15:35 <fredlima> robyduck: go on, sorry.
15:15:41 <robyduck> #topic LATAM FAD proposal
15:15:45 <robyduck> https://pagure.io/famsco/issue/426
15:16:37 <robyduck> This is a topic from the last meeting too, we agreed to add thoughts or any suggestions to the proposal, in order to have a concrete outcome from this FAD
15:17:42 <robyduck> I see ticket 422 also related to that
15:17:53 <robyduck> https://pagure.io/famsco/issue/422
15:18:23 <robyduck> but more than a report we should, according to the COuncil's request, work out an agenda
15:19:11 <robyduck> together with LATAM folks, not by enforce anything
15:20:09 <robyduck> itamarjp: fredlima: is there a owner of this FAD? Alexove?
15:20:25 <fredlima> robyduck: I don't know
15:21:37 <robyduck> Alex moved on the whole request also to the Council, I'll add him to the ticket as subscriber
15:23:38 <robyduck> Is there anything you have for this topic? Seems I am doing a monologue today :/
15:24:14 <jonatoni> I need to add my feedback there, but it seems I need more time to do it :/
15:24:28 <robyduck> jonatoni: that's fine
15:24:41 * mailga goes... Thanks, see you all.
15:24:56 <robyduck> ok so let's see if we can work out something on the ticket, but don't forget it :D
15:25:04 <robyduck> mailga: cheers, see you
15:25:25 <jonatoni> robyduck yes sure :)
15:25:34 <jonatoni> bye mailga
15:26:37 <robyduck> #topic FAmA
15:26:47 <robyduck> another ticket we need to close down ASAP
15:27:09 <robyduck> we did all the migration and settings, just need a full time FAmA
15:27:59 <robyduck> actually me and giannisk are doing the work, and are set as alias for fama@fedoraproject.org
15:28:22 <robyduck> if you have any objection please make it now
15:28:29 <jonatoni> is anything we can help with FAmA?
15:28:50 <robyduck> however, this should be a responsibility ad interim
15:29:37 <robyduck> jonatoni: the best would be to find a mentor who is willing to take this responsibility
15:30:12 <robyduck> if not, we can also add another one and create a small FAmA team, as proposed by Justin IIRC
15:31:03 <jonatoni> will try to talk with some mentors to see if they are willing to help
15:31:50 <robyduck> more than helping, I'd prefer to have a FAmA person, as he can control all the actions he does easily, and doesn't need to rely on others
15:32:21 <jonatoni> just talked with Justin, and I think it's better to have more than one person that can be FAmA person
15:32:49 * jwf waves, sort of :)
15:33:17 <robyduck> brb
15:34:05 <jonatoni> if we will not find one single person to do that we can discuss again about FAmA how we will continue with that
15:34:29 <itamarjp> robyduck, I like the idea of a  FAmA team with an leader with power of taking decisions,
15:36:21 <robyduck> sorry, phone
15:36:33 <robyduck> we can also go for that, sure
15:36:47 <robyduck> but we should have 3 persons, not more
15:37:23 <jonatoni> yep 3 persons should be the maximum
15:37:29 <robyduck> jonatoni: I can ask some mentors too, let's try to find at least one
15:37:51 <jonatoni> okay
15:37:54 <robyduck> jonatoni: should I mark an action for this?
15:38:15 <jonatoni> yes sure
15:38:28 <robyduck> #action jonatoni and robyduck to reach out to some mentors trying to find another member for a small FAmA team
15:39:28 <robyduck> hopefully we can close it next week :)
15:40:11 <robyduck> we have 15 minutes for a new discussion, and 5 for Open Floor
15:40:30 <robyduck> #topic Create Ambassador event report template
15:40:37 <robyduck> https://pagure.io/famsco/issue/422
15:41:28 <robyduck> I tagged this ticket also with mindshare, as this is directly related to its activity and I would welcome bexelbie adding his thoughts on that too
15:41:52 <robyduck> jwf: this is your ticket, want to add something as introduction?
15:42:54 <jwf> Yeah, give me a moment to get a quick refresh
15:43:07 <robyduck> sure
15:43:10 <jwf> Ahh, yeah
15:44:26 <jwf> So, obviously writing event reports is a key part of how we communicate what the Ambassadors are doing both to our contributors but also to people outside of the community. It's also a good opportunity for the event organizers to introspect on their event and think critically about what went well and what could be better. I was hoping that a common template, or maybe something like an SOP, would be helpful to have for Ambassadors who are writing
15:44:26 <jwf> event reports.
15:44:36 <jwf> It's explained a little more in detail in the ticket, but this is the quick idea. :)
15:44:39 <jwf> <eof
15:45:26 * robyduck agrees heavily on having a sort of template, and I guess it would be a great help for event owners to have a sort of guideline too
15:45:37 <robyduck> s/to/too
15:46:48 <robyduck> jwf: this is related to mindshare, to budgeting and to regional event planning, so it's quite important IMHO
15:46:59 <jwf> Originally, this ticket was filed to CommOps, but it was filed before FAmSCo was regularly meeting again
15:47:00 <jwf> So I thought it made the most sense for FAmSCo to spearhead this
15:47:20 <robyduck> yup, agree
15:48:00 <robyduck> also, having a template would also help to understand better, which events are working and where we should just drop our presence the next year
15:48:31 * jwf leaves keyboard for a bit, jonatoni can poke me if anything else is needed from me :)
15:48:37 <robyduck> There are many events where we are present without any reason, just because "we are there every year, so we will go also this year"
15:49:02 <jonatoni> yep agree with you
15:50:30 <robyduck> and last but not least, budgeting will go in that direction. Regional events will get funding if we have good reports from them.
15:51:58 <robyduck> can we try to add some brainstorming in the ticket? We need to add the FCAIC as subscriber too, in order to get his POV too
15:52:18 <robyduck> does this work?
15:52:18 <jonatoni> +1
15:52:22 <jonatoni> yes
15:52:38 <robyduck> are itamarjp and fredlima still around?
15:52:44 <fredlima> +1
15:52:50 <robyduck> :D
15:52:50 <itamarjp> +1
15:53:45 <robyduck> #action add your ideas and make some brainstorming for a event reporting template directly to pagure #422
15:53:55 <robyduck> #topic Open Floor
15:54:07 <robyduck> I have two things
15:54:52 <robyduck> 1) Beta will probably be released next tuesday, we should start to make a call for Release Parties, the final is not so far away
15:55:54 <robyduck> 2) FLOCK registration is still open, good talks and workshops are always welcome
15:56:16 * jwf would be interested in an Ambassador workshop, generally :)
15:56:47 <jwf> Would make sense for maybe some FAmSCo folks to organize something where we can maybe use the opportunity where folks from every region are present
15:57:08 <jwf> I don't have ideas right now, but I'd like to see this as an attendee… if someone has the time and energy to drive an idea or workshop :)
15:57:10 <robyduck> jwf: that's rather difficult, but could be a good idea. A sort of best practice workshop?
15:57:19 <jwf> robyduck: Oh!
15:57:23 <jwf> Maybe a budget training workshop
15:57:30 <jwf> This could be something that would be very valuable
15:57:38 <robyduck> yes
15:57:49 <jwf> To train regional leadership or Ambassadors about some of the newer tools with budget / financial reporting
15:57:55 <jwf> I would find this very valuable
15:58:23 <robyduck> I see many people who still are unsure about processes, budget, even swags or whatever. Why not? Could be worth to think about, really
15:58:42 <jonatoni> nice idea
15:59:47 <robyduck> jwf: jonatoni: there are still 15 days, maybe you can workout some ideas for discussion?
16:00:05 <jonatoni> definitely yes
16:00:09 <jonatoni> we can work on that
16:00:20 <robyduck> It's a long time I didn't see an ambassador talk/workshop anywhere
16:00:37 <jwf> Yeah, this could be good
16:00:40 * robyduck likes the idea, cool
16:00:44 <jwf> I could contribute ideas but I will be strapped for time to commit to this
16:01:04 <jwf> Might be nice to have a couple of FAmSCo members commit their names to this idea, I really think it would be a great opportunity
16:01:20 <robyduck> jwf: no worries, we will find you everywhere to force you to commit your ideas :D
16:01:27 <jwf> Hahahahahah :)
16:01:53 <robyduck> ok, let's close for today, thanks all for coming
16:01:58 <jwf> More than willing to share ideas, but I wouldn't be able to drive the workshop planning
16:02:09 * jwf ducks out now for a local Fedora meetup :)
16:02:13 <jwf> See ya, folks!
16:02:23 <fredlima> bye jwf
16:02:26 <robyduck> if you have anything urgent, speak now
16:02:31 <robyduck> bye jwf
16:02:52 <jwf> jonatoni insists I mention it's in Tirana ;)
16:02:52 <robyduck> see you next week
16:03:02 <robyduck> :)
16:03:13 <robyduck> #endmeeting