19:02:57 <jreznik> #startmeeting F26 Final Readiness Meeting
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19:03:11 <jreznik> #meetingname f26-final-readiness-meeting
19:03:11 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f26-final-readiness-meeting'
19:03:27 <jreznik> so let's roll
19:03:35 <jreznik> #topic Roll Call
19:03:40 <roshi> .hello roshi
19:03:41 <zodbot> roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' <mruckman@redhat.com>
19:04:08 <nirik> morning everyone
19:04:17 <jreznik> I don't expect many folks to join today, jan did some gathering offline and I'll continue on that to make sure we're ready for Tuesday
19:04:23 <adamw> .hello adamwill
19:04:24 <zodbot> adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam@redhat.com>
19:04:25 <adamw> amazingly, i'm still here
19:04:33 <mattdm> me too
19:05:41 <jreznik> run, you still have time!
19:05:47 <roshi> lol
19:05:47 * tenk listening
19:05:59 <jreznik> #topic Purpose of this meeting
19:06:00 <jreznik> #info "Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated."
19:06:02 <jreznik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings
19:06:31 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy
19:06:31 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
19:06:38 <jreznik> #topic Current status
19:07:09 <jreznik> as you can see in the logs, we are GO for Fedora 26 final, so if anything is missing today, it has to be resolved by Tuesday
19:07:25 <jreznik> #info Fedora 26 Final is Go
19:08:04 <jreznik> let's try usual roundtable
19:08:15 <jreznik> #topic Design
19:08:22 <jreznik> mizmo: ping, hi - are you here?
19:08:48 <mattdm> no she is on vacation this week
19:09:18 <jreznik> ah, ok
19:09:38 <jreznik> I'll try to get status via other means but I guess for final we have everything in
19:09:50 <jreznik> #topic Infrastructure
19:09:54 <jreznik> nirik: ?
19:10:03 <nirik> we are ready.
19:10:06 <nirik> no issues I am aware of.
19:10:27 <jreznik> #info Infrastructure is ready, no issues
19:10:29 <mizmo> Jreznik i sent status via email
19:10:42 <mattdm> mizmo++
19:10:57 <jreznik> mizmo: ops, sorry - I filtered all emails from jkurik and missed this one :(
19:11:20 <jreznik> seems like the reply didn't come to me
19:11:22 * mboddu will be back in a bit with some tea
19:11:48 <jreznik> mizmo: do you have second (or could you forward me the reply?)
19:11:56 <mizmo> Thats ok just wanted to make sure you knew i tried not to leave you high and dry ;-)
19:12:27 <jreznik> #topic Design
19:12:43 <mizmo> Jreznik i havw no vpn access and im in northern vt so my internet is spotty
19:13:07 <mizmo> I sent it frpm my redhat address on thursday last week if that helps
19:13:09 <jreznik> mizmo: good internet coverage should be human right
19:13:47 <mizmo> What i remember is we didnt have anything left on our plate and we swnt a note to ambassadors list w releasw party postwr templates ans media art
19:13:49 <jreznik> hmm, I don't see it my mailbox :(
19:14:21 <mizmo> It was kind of nice not to have it until we got lost wo a map and cpuldnt find a bathroom for our potty training kiddo lol
19:14:48 <mizmo> You were on the cc, anyway, abpve i pretty much all i wrote
19:14:52 <mattdm> the animated background is going to be an update rather than shipped by default
19:15:04 <mattdm> the non-animated background is my favorite ever, though, so there's that
19:15:15 <jreznik> mizmo: hmm, gmail... :(
19:15:27 <mizmo> So if amybody is planning a release party check out the goodies we sent tp ambassadors list
19:15:47 <jreznik> mizmo: I expect to undergo potty training soon with our baby :)
19:16:23 <mattdm> #info Design sent release-party goodies to the Ambassadors mailing list
19:16:25 <jreznik> #info if anybody is planning release party check out the goodies Design team sent tp ambassadors list
19:16:29 <mattdm> heh
19:16:32 <jreznik> #undo
19:16:32 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by jreznik at 19:16:25 : if anybody is planning release party check out the goodies Design team sent tp ambassadors list
19:16:43 * mattdm tryin' to be helpful
19:16:47 <mizmo> Its so nice to be free of diapers
19:16:54 <mizmo> Mattdm what happened to animated one?
19:17:30 <mattdm> mizmo: long story. gnome has bug with png images, but dropping png images broke other desktops which were pointing at it
19:17:40 <mattdm> plus the jpeg images had way ugly compression
19:17:57 <mattdm> plus there were some weird artifacts in how they were composed so the "island" in the background looked wrong
19:18:16 <mattdm> that should all be fixed in 26.2.6
19:18:22 <mattdm> but that's not quite ready as an update yet.
19:18:36 <mizmo> Ah ok. I do like the non animated version better anyway
19:18:57 <mizmo> Thats weird sam had fixed the artifacts in time fpr beta i thought
19:19:10 <jreznik> #info animated backgrounds are fixed in 26.2.6 as an update
19:19:35 <adamw> the update nominated for FE seemed to have issues, so we rejected it
19:19:42 <adamw> we figured it'd be better to have some time to make sure everything was working right
19:20:43 <jreznik> thank you mizmo for joining us from vacations and enjoy the rest of your time off!
19:20:53 <x3mboy> mizmo++
19:20:53 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for duffy changed to 18 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
19:21:01 <jreznik> mizmo++
19:21:01 <zodbot> jreznik: Karma for duffy changed to 19 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
19:21:14 <jreznik> #topic Ambassadors
19:21:19 <mizmo> Makes sense
19:21:28 <jreznik> jonatoni: are you here for a quick status?
19:21:37 <mizmo> Lol thanks cheers!
19:22:08 <jreznik> (or anyone else from ambassadors)
19:22:30 * jreznik is using beta as template - I was away for some time
19:22:52 <robyduck> jreznik: I can
19:23:02 <jreznik> robyduck: great, thanks - go on
19:23:24 <robyduck> Ambassadors are set, Release Parties are already planned and we got nice stuff from design team
19:23:41 <robyduck> Regions will do media productions as usual
19:24:24 <robyduck> all fine for now
19:24:36 <jreznik> #info Ambassadors are set, Release Parties are already planned, regions will do media productions as usual
19:24:42 <jreznik> robyduck: thanks!
19:24:52 <robyduck> yw
19:25:08 <jreznik> #topic Documentation
19:25:53 <mattdm> bexelbie: you around?
19:26:04 <jreznik> I'm not sure bexelbie will make it today, status in email is the team is good
19:26:17 <mattdm> "Good" might be overstating it :(
19:26:33 <mattdm> How about "okay for now"?
19:26:34 <jreznik> mattdm: or better - they will sort docs out
19:26:48 <mattdm> that'll do :)
19:26:49 <jreznik> mattdm: yeah, that's better
19:27:35 <jreznik> mattdm: 9:30pm here and I skipped one line :D
19:27:45 <jreznik> the most important one
19:28:11 <jreznik> #info docs is still mostly broken but teams should be able to get this jalopy across the finish line
19:28:16 <mattdm> lol
19:28:27 <jreznik> it happens
19:28:36 <jreznik> I'll follow up with the team to make sure it's ready
19:29:04 <x3mboy> I think they release a rpm that points to the online docs, and the online docs will be ready to the release date (I undertood that, maybe and horribly wrong)
19:29:14 <jreznik> yeah, that's sorted out
19:29:31 <x3mboy> s/and/I'm/g
19:30:01 <jreznik> 1466887 	fedora-release-notes 	VERIFIED 	Fedora 26 Final build of fedora-release-notes needed
19:30:15 <jreznik> #topic FESCo
19:30:25 <jreznik> anything from FESCo lands?
19:30:39 <jreznik> nirik, sgallagh, dgilmore, jwb, maxamillion, jsmith, kalev, paragan, rathann
19:30:51 <nirik> nothing... should be ready to go.
19:31:24 <jreznik> #info FESCo is ready to go
19:31:45 <jreznik> btw I have a few F27 changes for you, will file tickets tomorrow morning our time...
19:32:06 <jreznik> #topic Marketing
19:32:29 <jreznik> mattdm: I saw you started to work on release announcement
19:32:49 <jreznik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F26_release_announcement
19:33:08 <mattdm> jreznik: yeah. and the RH PR is good to go
19:33:37 <mattdm> It's never going to be as clever as those from rbergeron or some previous super-witty FPLs, I'm afraid :)
19:34:41 * jreznik remembers writing beta release notes one day after beta :)
19:34:58 <jreznik> ok, x3mboy do you have anything to add for marketing?
19:35:34 <jreznik> #info mattdm started F26 release announcement work and RH PR is good to go too
19:36:01 <x3mboy> For the other tasks, We are a little behind with the screenshots: Also waiting for the RA to be ready to publish it in the different channels
19:36:41 <x3mboy> I want to ping for the last time to all SIGs and WGs, to be sure that TPs are Ok, but we are ok
19:36:53 <jreznik> #info team is a little behind with screenshots and also are waiting for RA to be ready to publish
19:37:02 <jreznik> x3mboy: please sync with mattdm for RA
19:37:11 <mattdm> yeah we're talking :)
19:37:13 <x3mboy> jreznik, we are synced by ML
19:37:15 <x3mboy> :D
19:37:29 <jreznik> you never know! thanks guys
19:37:45 <jreznik> it's good to hear it's in the right hands (of one body)
19:37:58 <jreznik> #topic Fedora Engineering Manager
19:38:01 * x3mboy needs to leave the room. Please ping me if need it
19:38:11 <jreznik> x3mboy: thank you!
19:38:11 <mattdm> I think stickster is off playing bass in his band
19:38:36 <mattdm> oh no leaves early in the morning
19:38:55 <mattdm> but he may already be on the road in spirit
19:39:02 <stickster> Hey, I'm here
19:39:07 <mattdm> :)
19:39:24 <stickster> I'm on a call at the moment, actively. I have nothing to report though in terms of readiness issues that would get in the way of F26
19:39:34 * jreznik is envy, his bass is long time not being used...
19:39:46 <stickster> I do want to make sure we continue to use the Magazine as the primary location for announcing GA obviously
19:40:10 <jreznik> mattdm, x3mboy: ^^^
19:40:12 <stickster> but I think mattdm is used to that and tends to pull his announcement into the Magazine when ready so we can publish on day and date.
19:40:29 <stickster> let's just make sure someone is ready/accountable to do that ahead of time so it can be published.
19:40:40 <mattdm> stickster: yep that's my plan
19:40:52 <jreznik> mattdm: now you are accountable!
19:40:57 <mattdm> :-O
19:42:08 <stickster> I'll be around Tuesday, and can help with pushing that publication button
19:42:10 <jreznik> #info Fedora Engineering Manager has nothing to report, let's use Magazine as primary location for GA announcement
19:42:14 <stickster> <eof/>
19:42:16 <stickster> and back to meeting
19:42:30 <jreznik> enjoy your meeting stickster and thank you@
19:42:40 <jreznik> #topic Fedora Project Leader
19:42:55 <jreznik> mattdm: do you still stand behind "go" decision? :)
19:43:06 <mattdm> jreznik: yes indeed
19:43:08 <mattdm> let's do it :)
19:44:16 <jreznik> do you have anything else for readiness status?
19:44:49 <jreznik> seems like we're good, let's move on
19:44:55 <mattdm> Thanks to QA for helping balance the hybrid time-vs-perfection thing
19:45:09 <jreznik> #info FPL says "let's do it"
19:45:12 <jreznik> mattdm++
19:45:12 <zodbot> jreznik: Karma for mattdm changed to 15 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
19:45:31 <jreznik> #topic QA
19:45:40 <jreznik> adamw, roshi: anything from you?
19:45:47 <adamw> nothing special i don't think
19:45:50 * roshi has nothing
19:45:52 <adamw> we'll need to do a final push request
19:45:57 <adamw> and fill out commonbugs
19:46:00 <roshi> talked it all out in Go/No-go
19:46:05 <adamw> and of course i have to secretarialize the go/no-go decisions
19:46:43 <jreznik> adamw: when I was doing it, it was on me to file a push request - is it up to QA now?
19:47:13 <jreznik> #info QA need to do a final push request, fill out commonbugs and secretarialize the go/no-go decisions
19:47:24 <adamw> i've been doing the push requests for ages...
19:47:33 <adamw> well, i mean
19:47:41 <adamw> we file the ticket, releng does the push
19:47:41 <jreznik> ah, I get it now
19:47:59 <jreznik> you mean updates pushes, right?
19:48:20 <mattdm> pushing from stage to real i think
19:48:29 <mboddu> jreznik: blocker/FE builds needs to be pushed stable
19:48:32 <adamw> from updates-testing to stable.
19:48:40 <adamw> right.
19:48:53 <mattdm> ah
19:48:54 <jreznik> yep, I was talking about the ticket for releng to release bits...
19:48:56 <jreznik> ok
19:49:15 <jreznik> moving on
19:49:23 <jreznik> #topic Release Engineering
19:49:34 <jreznik> mboddu, dgilmore: your turn
19:50:15 <mboddu> jreznik: we are ready
19:50:34 <jreznik> #info releng is ready
19:50:37 <dgilmore> jreznik: what mboddu said
19:51:01 <jreznik> do you want me to file a release ticket as I did in the past? not sure if you still follow this practice in pagure
19:51:18 <jreznik> RC 1.5 is the right one
19:52:07 <jreznik> mboddu, dgilmore: ^^^ (ticket question)
19:52:34 <dgilmore> jreznik: reopen the ticket for the composes please
19:53:24 <jreznik> dgilmore: do you have link handy?
19:54:36 <jreznik> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6870
19:54:49 * jreznik will do it
19:54:52 * mboddu is confused, since he doesn't know how things were done in the past
19:55:54 <jreznik> mboddu: it's for better communication, to make sure releng is aware there was go decision
19:56:18 <jreznik> aka you know it's happenning for real
19:56:35 <mboddu> jreznik: okay
19:56:47 <jreznik> we're running out of time - moving on, thanks
19:56:48 <jreznik> #topic Websites
19:56:53 <jreznik> robyduck: still here?
19:56:54 <robyduck> that's me again!
19:57:02 <robyduck> Websites are in a good shape, but not really ready. However, we will be set for release date, I don't see any biggies.
19:57:25 <jreznik> #info Websites are in a good shape, but not really ready. However, will be set for release date
19:57:27 <robyduck> We still need screenshots in full HD (1920x1080) from KDE and LXDE. While KDE can be done easily, I don't know if anyone is testing LXDE, as it is almost unmaintained. Would be nice to get a screenshot (maybe from QA ?) because we don't have much time to make it by our own.
19:57:38 <jreznik> robyduck: is there anything you need help from someone?
19:57:44 <robyduck> jreznik: wanna do KDE?
19:58:00 <jreznik> robyduck: I think I can :)
19:58:15 <veon> hello everybody!
19:58:20 <robyduck> cool, I'll see if we can do LXDE then
19:58:45 * robyduck wants to point out, the help of the owners of the two new spins was very useful and really appreciated!
19:58:51 <robyduck> churchyard++
19:58:53 <robyduck> lupinix++
19:59:01 <jreznik> robyduck: do you have gnome ones already? could you please send it to me to see what's expected?
19:59:23 <jreznik> (for inspiration)
19:59:24 <robyduck> jreznik: you should already have mail ;P
19:59:45 <robyduck> but yes, I'll send you what we expect to have
20:00:05 <robyduck> jreznik: no, we don't have workstation screenshot updates
20:00:18 <jreznik> aha
20:00:31 <jreznik> ha, really - I have email :)))
20:00:40 <jreznik> sorry for missing it
20:00:46 <robyduck> no worries
20:01:09 <jreznik> robyduck, veon - anything else from you guys?
20:01:37 <robyduck> it's all from me, thanks
20:01:52 <veon> idem for me, thanks
20:02:56 <jreznik> heh, I installed f26 kde in czech and I don't have a clue how to use it :D -> switching back to English for screenshots
20:03:12 <jreznik> #topic Translations
20:03:43 <jreznik> offline status
20:03:55 <jreznik> #info Parag thinks we are good and there are no blockers for Translations in Fedora 26
20:04:31 <jreznik> #topic Open floor
20:05:08 <jreznik> we are a bit over - but thank you everyone, seems like we will make it :) even it hurts sometimes
20:05:14 * mboddu has nothing
20:05:16 <jreznik> anyone has anything else?
20:06:43 <jreznik> ok, if not 3...
20:06:48 <mattdm> thanks again everyone!
20:07:01 <mattdm> thank you jreznik for coming back from the great beyond to run these meetings!
20:07:41 <veon> jreznik++
20:07:41 <zodbot> veon: Karma for jreznik changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
20:07:47 <jreznik> mattdm: it's an honor for me!
20:07:53 <mattdm> :)
20:07:59 <mattdm> okay. now let's shut this thing down :)
20:08:08 <jreznik> 2...
20:08:14 <jreznik> 1...
20:08:19 <jreznik> #endmeeting