19:02:57 <jreznik> #startmeeting F26 Final Readiness Meeting 19:02:57 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 6 19:02:57 2017 UTC. The chair is jreznik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:02:57 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:02:57 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f26_final_readiness_meeting' 19:03:11 <jreznik> #meetingname f26-final-readiness-meeting 19:03:11 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f26-final-readiness-meeting' 19:03:27 <jreznik> so let's roll 19:03:35 <jreznik> #topic Roll Call 19:03:40 <roshi> .hello roshi 19:03:41 <zodbot> roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' <mruckman@redhat.com> 19:04:08 <nirik> morning everyone 19:04:17 <jreznik> I don't expect many folks to join today, jan did some gathering offline and I'll continue on that to make sure we're ready for Tuesday 19:04:23 <adamw> .hello adamwill 19:04:24 <zodbot> adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam@redhat.com> 19:04:25 <adamw> amazingly, i'm still here 19:04:33 <mattdm> me too 19:05:41 <jreznik> run, you still have time! 19:05:47 <roshi> lol 19:05:47 * tenk listening 19:05:59 <jreznik> #topic Purpose of this meeting 19:06:00 <jreznik> #info "Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated." 19:06:02 <jreznik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings 19:06:31 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy 19:06:31 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com> 19:06:38 <jreznik> #topic Current status 19:07:09 <jreznik> as you can see in the logs, we are GO for Fedora 26 final, so if anything is missing today, it has to be resolved by Tuesday 19:07:25 <jreznik> #info Fedora 26 Final is Go 19:08:04 <jreznik> let's try usual roundtable 19:08:15 <jreznik> #topic Design 19:08:22 <jreznik> mizmo: ping, hi - are you here? 19:08:48 <mattdm> no she is on vacation this week 19:09:18 <jreznik> ah, ok 19:09:38 <jreznik> I'll try to get status via other means but I guess for final we have everything in 19:09:50 <jreznik> #topic Infrastructure 19:09:54 <jreznik> nirik: ? 19:10:03 <nirik> we are ready. 19:10:06 <nirik> no issues I am aware of. 19:10:27 <jreznik> #info Infrastructure is ready, no issues 19:10:29 <mizmo> Jreznik i sent status via email 19:10:42 <mattdm> mizmo++ 19:10:57 <jreznik> mizmo: ops, sorry - I filtered all emails from jkurik and missed this one :( 19:11:20 <jreznik> seems like the reply didn't come to me 19:11:22 * mboddu will be back in a bit with some tea 19:11:48 <jreznik> mizmo: do you have second (or could you forward me the reply?) 19:11:56 <mizmo> Thats ok just wanted to make sure you knew i tried not to leave you high and dry ;-) 19:12:27 <jreznik> #topic Design 19:12:43 <mizmo> Jreznik i havw no vpn access and im in northern vt so my internet is spotty 19:13:07 <mizmo> I sent it frpm my redhat address on thursday last week if that helps 19:13:09 <jreznik> mizmo: good internet coverage should be human right 19:13:47 <mizmo> What i remember is we didnt have anything left on our plate and we swnt a note to ambassadors list w releasw party postwr templates ans media art 19:13:49 <jreznik> hmm, I don't see it my mailbox :( 19:14:21 <mizmo> It was kind of nice not to have it until we got lost wo a map and cpuldnt find a bathroom for our potty training kiddo lol 19:14:48 <mizmo> You were on the cc, anyway, abpve i pretty much all i wrote 19:14:52 <mattdm> the animated background is going to be an update rather than shipped by default 19:15:04 <mattdm> the non-animated background is my favorite ever, though, so there's that 19:15:15 <jreznik> mizmo: hmm, gmail... :( 19:15:27 <mizmo> So if amybody is planning a release party check out the goodies we sent tp ambassadors list 19:15:47 <jreznik> mizmo: I expect to undergo potty training soon with our baby :) 19:16:23 <mattdm> #info Design sent release-party goodies to the Ambassadors mailing list 19:16:25 <jreznik> #info if anybody is planning release party check out the goodies Design team sent tp ambassadors list 19:16:29 <mattdm> heh 19:16:32 <jreznik> #undo 19:16:32 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by jreznik at 19:16:25 : if anybody is planning release party check out the goodies Design team sent tp ambassadors list 19:16:43 * mattdm tryin' to be helpful 19:16:47 <mizmo> Its so nice to be free of diapers 19:16:54 <mizmo> Mattdm what happened to animated one? 19:17:30 <mattdm> mizmo: long story. gnome has bug with png images, but dropping png images broke other desktops which were pointing at it 19:17:40 <mattdm> plus the jpeg images had way ugly compression 19:17:57 <mattdm> plus there were some weird artifacts in how they were composed so the "island" in the background looked wrong 19:18:16 <mattdm> that should all be fixed in 26.2.6 19:18:22 <mattdm> but that's not quite ready as an update yet. 19:18:36 <mizmo> Ah ok. I do like the non animated version better anyway 19:18:57 <mizmo> Thats weird sam had fixed the artifacts in time fpr beta i thought 19:19:10 <jreznik> #info animated backgrounds are fixed in 26.2.6 as an update 19:19:35 <adamw> the update nominated for FE seemed to have issues, so we rejected it 19:19:42 <adamw> we figured it'd be better to have some time to make sure everything was working right 19:20:43 <jreznik> thank you mizmo for joining us from vacations and enjoy the rest of your time off! 19:20:53 <x3mboy> mizmo++ 19:20:53 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for duffy changed to 18 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 19:21:01 <jreznik> mizmo++ 19:21:01 <zodbot> jreznik: Karma for duffy changed to 19 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 19:21:14 <jreznik> #topic Ambassadors 19:21:19 <mizmo> Makes sense 19:21:28 <jreznik> jonatoni: are you here for a quick status? 19:21:37 <mizmo> Lol thanks cheers! 19:22:08 <jreznik> (or anyone else from ambassadors) 19:22:30 * jreznik is using beta as template - I was away for some time 19:22:52 <robyduck> jreznik: I can 19:23:02 <jreznik> robyduck: great, thanks - go on 19:23:24 <robyduck> Ambassadors are set, Release Parties are already planned and we got nice stuff from design team 19:23:41 <robyduck> Regions will do media productions as usual 19:24:24 <robyduck> all fine for now 19:24:36 <jreznik> #info Ambassadors are set, Release Parties are already planned, regions will do media productions as usual 19:24:42 <jreznik> robyduck: thanks! 19:24:52 <robyduck> yw 19:25:08 <jreznik> #topic Documentation 19:25:53 <mattdm> bexelbie: you around? 19:26:04 <jreznik> I'm not sure bexelbie will make it today, status in email is the team is good 19:26:17 <mattdm> "Good" might be overstating it :( 19:26:33 <mattdm> How about "okay for now"? 19:26:34 <jreznik> mattdm: or better - they will sort docs out 19:26:48 <mattdm> that'll do :) 19:26:49 <jreznik> mattdm: yeah, that's better 19:27:35 <jreznik> mattdm: 9:30pm here and I skipped one line :D 19:27:45 <jreznik> the most important one 19:28:11 <jreznik> #info docs is still mostly broken but teams should be able to get this jalopy across the finish line 19:28:16 <mattdm> lol 19:28:27 <jreznik> it happens 19:28:36 <jreznik> I'll follow up with the team to make sure it's ready 19:29:04 <x3mboy> I think they release a rpm that points to the online docs, and the online docs will be ready to the release date (I undertood that, maybe and horribly wrong) 19:29:14 <jreznik> yeah, that's sorted out 19:29:31 <x3mboy> s/and/I'm/g 19:30:01 <jreznik> 1466887 fedora-release-notes VERIFIED Fedora 26 Final build of fedora-release-notes needed 19:30:15 <jreznik> #topic FESCo 19:30:25 <jreznik> anything from FESCo lands? 19:30:39 <jreznik> nirik, sgallagh, dgilmore, jwb, maxamillion, jsmith, kalev, paragan, rathann 19:30:51 <nirik> nothing... should be ready to go. 19:31:24 <jreznik> #info FESCo is ready to go 19:31:45 <jreznik> btw I have a few F27 changes for you, will file tickets tomorrow morning our time... 19:32:06 <jreznik> #topic Marketing 19:32:29 <jreznik> mattdm: I saw you started to work on release announcement 19:32:49 <jreznik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F26_release_announcement 19:33:08 <mattdm> jreznik: yeah. and the RH PR is good to go 19:33:37 <mattdm> It's never going to be as clever as those from rbergeron or some previous super-witty FPLs, I'm afraid :) 19:34:41 * jreznik remembers writing beta release notes one day after beta :) 19:34:58 <jreznik> ok, x3mboy do you have anything to add for marketing? 19:35:34 <jreznik> #info mattdm started F26 release announcement work and RH PR is good to go too 19:36:01 <x3mboy> For the other tasks, We are a little behind with the screenshots: Also waiting for the RA to be ready to publish it in the different channels 19:36:41 <x3mboy> I want to ping for the last time to all SIGs and WGs, to be sure that TPs are Ok, but we are ok 19:36:53 <jreznik> #info team is a little behind with screenshots and also are waiting for RA to be ready to publish 19:37:02 <jreznik> x3mboy: please sync with mattdm for RA 19:37:11 <mattdm> yeah we're talking :) 19:37:13 <x3mboy> jreznik, we are synced by ML 19:37:15 <x3mboy> :D 19:37:29 <jreznik> you never know! thanks guys 19:37:45 <jreznik> it's good to hear it's in the right hands (of one body) 19:37:58 <jreznik> #topic Fedora Engineering Manager 19:38:01 * x3mboy needs to leave the room. Please ping me if need it 19:38:11 <jreznik> x3mboy: thank you! 19:38:11 <mattdm> I think stickster is off playing bass in his band 19:38:36 <mattdm> oh no leaves early in the morning 19:38:55 <mattdm> but he may already be on the road in spirit 19:39:02 <stickster> Hey, I'm here 19:39:07 <mattdm> :) 19:39:24 <stickster> I'm on a call at the moment, actively. I have nothing to report though in terms of readiness issues that would get in the way of F26 19:39:34 * jreznik is envy, his bass is long time not being used... 19:39:46 <stickster> I do want to make sure we continue to use the Magazine as the primary location for announcing GA obviously 19:40:10 <jreznik> mattdm, x3mboy: ^^^ 19:40:12 <stickster> but I think mattdm is used to that and tends to pull his announcement into the Magazine when ready so we can publish on day and date. 19:40:29 <stickster> let's just make sure someone is ready/accountable to do that ahead of time so it can be published. 19:40:40 <mattdm> stickster: yep that's my plan 19:40:52 <jreznik> mattdm: now you are accountable! 19:40:57 <mattdm> :-O 19:42:08 <stickster> I'll be around Tuesday, and can help with pushing that publication button 19:42:10 <jreznik> #info Fedora Engineering Manager has nothing to report, let's use Magazine as primary location for GA announcement 19:42:14 <stickster> <eof/> 19:42:16 <stickster> and back to meeting 19:42:30 <jreznik> enjoy your meeting stickster and thank you@ 19:42:40 <jreznik> #topic Fedora Project Leader 19:42:55 <jreznik> mattdm: do you still stand behind "go" decision? :) 19:43:06 <mattdm> jreznik: yes indeed 19:43:08 <mattdm> let's do it :) 19:44:16 <jreznik> do you have anything else for readiness status? 19:44:49 <jreznik> seems like we're good, let's move on 19:44:55 <mattdm> Thanks to QA for helping balance the hybrid time-vs-perfection thing 19:45:09 <jreznik> #info FPL says "let's do it" 19:45:12 <jreznik> mattdm++ 19:45:12 <zodbot> jreznik: Karma for mattdm changed to 15 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 19:45:31 <jreznik> #topic QA 19:45:40 <jreznik> adamw, roshi: anything from you? 19:45:47 <adamw> nothing special i don't think 19:45:50 * roshi has nothing 19:45:52 <adamw> we'll need to do a final push request 19:45:57 <adamw> and fill out commonbugs 19:46:00 <roshi> talked it all out in Go/No-go 19:46:05 <adamw> and of course i have to secretarialize the go/no-go decisions 19:46:43 <jreznik> adamw: when I was doing it, it was on me to file a push request - is it up to QA now? 19:47:13 <jreznik> #info QA need to do a final push request, fill out commonbugs and secretarialize the go/no-go decisions 19:47:24 <adamw> i've been doing the push requests for ages... 19:47:33 <adamw> well, i mean 19:47:41 <adamw> we file the ticket, releng does the push 19:47:41 <jreznik> ah, I get it now 19:47:59 <jreznik> you mean updates pushes, right? 19:48:20 <mattdm> pushing from stage to real i think 19:48:29 <mboddu> jreznik: blocker/FE builds needs to be pushed stable 19:48:32 <adamw> from updates-testing to stable. 19:48:40 <adamw> right. 19:48:53 <mattdm> ah 19:48:54 <jreznik> yep, I was talking about the ticket for releng to release bits... 19:48:56 <jreznik> ok 19:49:15 <jreznik> moving on 19:49:23 <jreznik> #topic Release Engineering 19:49:34 <jreznik> mboddu, dgilmore: your turn 19:50:15 <mboddu> jreznik: we are ready 19:50:34 <jreznik> #info releng is ready 19:50:37 <dgilmore> jreznik: what mboddu said 19:51:01 <jreznik> do you want me to file a release ticket as I did in the past? not sure if you still follow this practice in pagure 19:51:18 <jreznik> RC 1.5 is the right one 19:52:07 <jreznik> mboddu, dgilmore: ^^^ (ticket question) 19:52:34 <dgilmore> jreznik: reopen the ticket for the composes please 19:53:24 <jreznik> dgilmore: do you have link handy? 19:54:36 <jreznik> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6870 19:54:49 * jreznik will do it 19:54:52 * mboddu is confused, since he doesn't know how things were done in the past 19:55:54 <jreznik> mboddu: it's for better communication, to make sure releng is aware there was go decision 19:56:18 <jreznik> aka you know it's happenning for real 19:56:35 <mboddu> jreznik: okay 19:56:47 <jreznik> we're running out of time - moving on, thanks 19:56:48 <jreznik> #topic Websites 19:56:53 <jreznik> robyduck: still here? 19:56:54 <robyduck> that's me again! 19:57:02 <robyduck> Websites are in a good shape, but not really ready. However, we will be set for release date, I don't see any biggies. 19:57:25 <jreznik> #info Websites are in a good shape, but not really ready. However, will be set for release date 19:57:27 <robyduck> We still need screenshots in full HD (1920x1080) from KDE and LXDE. While KDE can be done easily, I don't know if anyone is testing LXDE, as it is almost unmaintained. Would be nice to get a screenshot (maybe from QA ?) because we don't have much time to make it by our own. 19:57:38 <jreznik> robyduck: is there anything you need help from someone? 19:57:44 <robyduck> jreznik: wanna do KDE? 19:58:00 <jreznik> robyduck: I think I can :) 19:58:15 <veon> hello everybody! 19:58:20 <robyduck> cool, I'll see if we can do LXDE then 19:58:45 * robyduck wants to point out, the help of the owners of the two new spins was very useful and really appreciated! 19:58:51 <robyduck> churchyard++ 19:58:53 <robyduck> lupinix++ 19:59:01 <jreznik> robyduck: do you have gnome ones already? could you please send it to me to see what's expected? 19:59:23 <jreznik> (for inspiration) 19:59:24 <robyduck> jreznik: you should already have mail ;P 19:59:45 <robyduck> but yes, I'll send you what we expect to have 20:00:05 <robyduck> jreznik: no, we don't have workstation screenshot updates 20:00:18 <jreznik> aha 20:00:31 <jreznik> ha, really - I have email :))) 20:00:40 <jreznik> sorry for missing it 20:00:46 <robyduck> no worries 20:01:09 <jreznik> robyduck, veon - anything else from you guys? 20:01:37 <robyduck> it's all from me, thanks 20:01:52 <veon> idem for me, thanks 20:02:56 <jreznik> heh, I installed f26 kde in czech and I don't have a clue how to use it :D -> switching back to English for screenshots 20:03:12 <jreznik> #topic Translations 20:03:43 <jreznik> offline status 20:03:55 <jreznik> #info Parag thinks we are good and there are no blockers for Translations in Fedora 26 20:04:31 <jreznik> #topic Open floor 20:05:08 <jreznik> we are a bit over - but thank you everyone, seems like we will make it :) even it hurts sometimes 20:05:14 * mboddu has nothing 20:05:16 <jreznik> anyone has anything else? 20:06:43 <jreznik> ok, if not 3... 20:06:48 <mattdm> thanks again everyone! 20:07:01 <mattdm> thank you jreznik for coming back from the great beyond to run these meetings! 20:07:41 <veon> jreznik++ 20:07:41 <zodbot> veon: Karma for jreznik changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 20:07:47 <jreznik> mattdm: it's an honor for me! 20:07:53 <mattdm> :) 20:07:59 <mattdm> okay. now let's shut this thing down :) 20:08:08 <jreznik> 2... 20:08:14 <jreznik> 1... 20:08:19 <jreznik> #endmeeting