15:00:16 <robyduck> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2017-07-19
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15:00:18 <robyduck> #meetingname famsco
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15:00:23 <robyduck> #topic Roll Call
15:00:25 <robyduck> .hello robyduck
15:00:26 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
15:01:16 <robyduck> #chair mailga giannisk jonatoni kohane itamarjp fredlima
15:01:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: fredlima giannisk itamarjp jonatoni kohane mailga robyduck
15:01:39 <jonatoni> .hello jonatoni
15:01:43 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
15:01:59 <mailga> .fas mailga
15:02:00 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <g.trombini@gmail.com>
15:02:34 <giannisk> .hello giannisk
15:02:35 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
15:02:48 <robyduck> hi jonatoni giannisk mailga
15:03:04 <mailga> hi all
15:03:04 <jonatoni> hi guys :)
15:03:56 * giannisk waves at everyone.
15:04:08 <robyduck> we have not really urgent stuff, but more or less we have:
15:04:56 <robyduck> Release parties, markdude mentor status
15:05:12 <robyduck> these are pretty fast, so id you have anything we can add that
15:05:43 <robyduck> would be nice to start discussing swags, report templates or other topics which go already into mindshare
15:06:04 <jonatoni> I forgot to do the article for the release parties :( I'm so sorry :/
15:06:05 <robyduck> #topic Mentor status of markdude
15:06:46 <robyduck> so we cancelled the meeting last week, but I sent out an email to the mentors list, asking for feedback
15:07:08 <mailga> and?
15:07:27 <robyduck> #info Mentors didn't reply for now, FAmSCo is asking for feedback, specially from local NA mentors
15:07:52 <robyduck> mailga: I would say we need at least some feedback from local mentors
15:08:22 <robyduck> we have set a deadline of 2 weeks, but if we don't get anything we can extend it
15:08:52 <robyduck> I can send a reminder to the list
15:09:22 <giannisk> !
15:09:23 <mailga> We have rules to manage this kind of issues. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors/NewMentors
15:09:44 <robyduck> mailga: yes, we wait at least 2 weeks, which means we can wait even longer
15:09:49 <mailga> +1
15:09:51 <robyduck> giannisk: go ahead
15:10:29 <giannisk> Yes, I'm also strongly in favor of gathering feedback from NA mentors and the respective regional community - as an "outsider" I'd appreciate more background information before making a decision.
15:10:39 <giannisk> eof
15:11:10 <robyduck> giannisk: I think we all agree on that, also a direct feedback from Mark would be nice
15:11:55 <mailga> the problem here is that I don't want to open the Pandora's bx.
15:12:07 <robyduck> #info FAmSCo will wait for feedback from local mentors before making any decision
15:12:16 <mailga> s/bx/box
15:12:44 <robyduck> mailga: which kind of box? And if there is one, let's open it to sort it out.
15:13:37 <mailga> IMO the reasons have to be really strong and accurate. I want FAmSCo will decide without any doubt.
15:14:10 * robyduck nods
15:15:05 <robyduck> #action robyduck will reply in the ticket and resend a reminder to the mentors list
15:15:34 * mailga would avoid dozen of requests to firing mantors....
15:15:38 <mailga> EOF
15:16:03 <robyduck> mailga: sure, but I don't expect too many
15:16:50 <robyduck> we need mentors, and we don't want to reduce their number. We just want to have them active.
15:17:32 <robyduck> if anyone is not active, it is better to replace him with fresh blood and motivation
15:17:34 <mailga> robyduck: I'd like to protect mentors as far as they are doing their job.
15:18:08 <robyduck> +1
15:18:12 <mailga> but I'm not in the position to trust them, for now. I need feedbacks.
15:19:24 <robyduck> should I include anything else in my replies?
15:20:25 <mailga> robyduck: not from me, let's see.
15:20:35 <robyduck> ok
15:20:51 <robyduck> #topic Release parties and badges
15:21:08 <robyduck> I know Release parties are ongoing, and some already took place
15:21:28 <robyduck> I don't know if anyone is in charge to award the badges
15:21:59 <jonatoni> we can give permission to event organizers
15:22:06 <robyduck> IIRC all of us have the permissions to award them, so it's better if we choose one of us
15:22:21 <robyduck> jonatoni: no, we award them to them
15:23:00 <jonatoni> ah okay
15:23:40 * robyduck found it
15:23:41 <robyduck> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/546
15:23:58 <robyduck> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/546#comment-448294
15:24:10 <robyduck> oooh, that's me!! hu!
15:24:45 <robyduck> can anyone take this?
15:25:05 <jonatoni> I can help if you want
15:25:18 <robyduck> we need to check if the event is listed in the wiki and has a report
15:25:27 <jonatoni> yep
15:26:01 <robyduck> jonatoni: thanks
15:26:44 <robyduck> jonatoni: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/546#comment-449307
15:26:49 <Kohane> Hi!
15:26:50 <robyduck> :)
15:26:55 <Kohane> Sorry for my absence
15:27:00 <robyduck> hi Kohane
15:27:03 <Kohane> .fas lailah
15:27:04 <zodbot> Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' <BHKohane@gmail.com>
15:27:11 <jonatoni> thanks robyduck
15:27:30 <Kohane> Hi robyduck
15:27:34 <robyduck> thanks to you for your help
15:28:08 <robyduck> I think the rest is going on fine for RP, right?
15:28:42 <jonatoni> I have a ticket that needs to be reviewed by us
15:29:00 <jonatoni> because on their meetings were not enough people to approve it
15:29:17 <jonatoni> and the release party it's on saturday
15:29:27 <jonatoni> https://pagure.io/ambassadors-apac/issue/269
15:29:45 <jonatoni> and if we agree with it we can approve this ticket
15:30:36 <Kohane> I just read it. I'm +1 for that
15:30:45 <robyduck> #topic Release Party Bangalore
15:31:10 <giannisk> Would that be 150 USD in total?
15:31:16 <robyduck> jonatoni: don't they have regional meetings?
15:31:57 <Kohane> It should be APAC but I'm not sure if there held any meetings recently
15:32:00 <robyduck> I am also not aware of their regional budget status
15:32:08 <Kohane> if they* Sorry
15:32:14 <jonatoni> I haven't seen any logs yet but AFAIK they don't have enough people to attend their meetings
15:33:03 <Kohane> jonatoni: That's sad.
15:33:05 <jonatoni> and they haven't sponsored any release party until now
15:33:06 <robyduck> https://budget.fedoraproject.org/FY18/apac.html
15:33:07 <jonatoni> for F26
15:34:46 <robyduck> so for now they have left some budget from the first quarter, but 150$ is too much. A release party shouldn't be more than 100$, and even less if we are talking about APAC countries (at least most of them)
15:36:01 <robyduck> jonatoni: I think we don't need to vote about it, you can approve it as FAmSCo member and give them a limit of how much to spend.
15:36:12 <robyduck> giannisk: mailga: any opinions?
15:36:19 <Kohane> TBH, I don't know the prices in Bangalore. Does anyone has an idea?
15:37:03 <mailga> no opinion from me.
15:37:22 <robyduck> izhar is the treasurer and CC holder, we should include him in any kind of communication
15:37:25 <giannisk> I'd like to see some further effort from the organizer's side
15:37:42 <giannisk> I mean, there's not even an event agenda - what are they going to present?
15:37:48 <giannisk> How many people do they expect?
15:37:48 <Kohane> robyduck: It would be useful to have a reference price to compare with, to know if this average, epxensive or what.
15:38:29 <giannisk> "A couple of presentations (at max 60 mins)" doesn't justify anything, it's too vague.
15:38:48 <Kohane> Yes, that's true.
15:38:52 <jonatoni> giannisk when I talked with him he said that last year they had 80+ people
15:39:13 <robyduck> giannisk: seems they have talks
15:39:18 <jonatoni> I will talk with him to add an agenda
15:39:23 <giannisk> Okay, sorry, my bad, there's a separate topic named "Schedule".
15:39:31 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F26_Bangalore_India#Schedule
15:39:35 <robyduck> even on Boltrom and modularity, which is where we are moving to
15:39:35 <giannisk> Just noticed that.
15:40:26 <robyduck> jonatoni: if you feel better let's make that quick
15:40:34 <robyduck> +1 with max 100$ from my side
15:40:51 <robyduck> they have budget and Bangalore is a good plave for a RP
15:40:57 <jonatoni> +1
15:41:14 <giannisk> +1 for $100
15:41:36 <mailga> IMO 100$ aren't diccult to find. +1 from me also to max 100$.
15:41:48 <Kohane> +1
15:41:49 <mailga> s/diccult/difficult
15:42:23 <robyduck> #agreed Release Party in Bangalore is approved for max 100$
15:42:30 <robyduck> #action jonatoni will update the ticket
15:43:16 <robyduck> #topic Open floor
15:43:31 <robyduck> oh, unless you have anything else
15:44:21 <Kohane> Not from side...
15:44:34 <mailga> maybe the #430?
15:45:05 <robyduck> yes
15:45:27 <Kohane> mailga: Link?
15:45:33 <robyduck> if you have any opinions, thoughts, whatever, please add them to the mindshare ticket
15:45:39 <robyduck> whihc is #430
15:46:18 <mailga> Kohane: https://pagure.io/famsco/issue/430
15:46:29 <robyduck> it's private for now
15:46:37 <Kohane> Thank you!
15:46:43 <Kohane> Ouch!
15:46:49 <mailga> it's private at the moment, but we need some ideas.
15:46:54 <Kohane> I'm not in my laptop right now.
15:47:23 <nb> robyduck, i can't see ticket 430
15:47:26 <robyduck> additionally to that, FAD LATAM finished last week and there were some nice thoughts and requests we need to consider
15:47:37 <robyduck> nb: no, you can't for now
15:47:46 <x3mboy> !
15:47:55 <nb> oh
15:48:31 <mailga> x3mboy: go ahead.
15:48:39 <robyduck> I found only this: http://www.winglemeyer.org/technology/2017/07/18/event-report-latam-org-fad/
15:49:14 <x3mboy> mailga, Thanks
15:49:50 <mailga> robyduck: I'd like to get some infos also from the classroom program as well. It could be interesting.
15:49:53 <x3mboy> I attend the FAD Latam (my report will be out today), the final report for the FAD event owner should be ready this saturday. We have several nice thoughs, a lot of discussion
15:50:08 <x3mboy> And finally we probably solve some issues and improve some processes
15:50:26 <x3mboy> If you have a specific question, I can probably answer it
15:50:47 <robyduck> x3mboy: I got some positive feedback already and am looking forward to read your reports
15:51:24 <robyduck> we have some tickets, like swags or templates, you also discussed and where we can improve a lot indeed
15:51:44 <x3mboy> robyduck, Yes, also a lot of people os asking for them. It just that our flights back were hard
15:52:10 <robyduck> it is very possible your FAD can be a fisrt step into the direction we want to go while retooling the mabassador and mindshare process
15:52:38 <x3mboy> But please, give us some more days. This saturday all (reports, tickets and procedures) should be done and discussed in Latam Meeting
15:52:39 <mailga> x3mboy: good to know. I'm not aware about the FUDCON, I haven't followed the event, but when I'll read your report maybe some question will show up in my mind. In that case, can I ping you?
15:52:52 <robyduck> x3mboy: you live in LATAM and know that flights are always tricky :)
15:53:43 <robyduck> x3mboy: nobody is making pressure, but the earlier you write reports the more you remember what happened ;)
15:53:53 <x3mboy> mailga, when you need. I'm always on #fedora-latam (directly o through the telegram bridge)
15:54:45 <mailga> x3mboy: I think i could bother you also in the mktg channel... ;-)
15:54:46 <robyduck> x3mboy: thank you for giving us a direct feedback, it is very appreciated!
15:54:56 <x3mboy> robyduck, yes, I'm trying to push everybody to make the reports
15:55:21 <robyduck> that's great
15:55:29 <Kohane> mailga: FUDCON? I got lost.
15:55:43 <robyduck> Kohane: he wanted to say FAD I guess
15:55:44 <x3mboy> mailga, Yep, also there, but mktg doesn't have telegram bridge, so after office hours is hard to follow mktg channel
15:56:29 <Kohane> mailga: you can also bother x3mboy on Telegram xD
15:56:55 <x3mboy> Kohane, xD
15:57:01 <mailga> x3mboy: I'm thinking to erase telegram from my phone..... Too many socials. :-D No problem, we'll finde somewhere and somehow.
15:57:03 <x3mboy> That's my 24/7
15:58:13 <mailga> Time to endmeeting, I guess. robyduck?
15:58:38 <robyduck> yeah, doesn anyone have something else to add for today?
15:58:47 <mailga> none
15:59:04 <jonatoni> nope
15:59:10 <robyduck> thanks to all for coming, see you next week. bye bye
15:59:14 <robyduck> #endmeeting