22:58:53 #startmeeting Fedora Latam Ambassadors meeting 2017-07-22 22:58:53 Meeting started Sat Jul 22 22:58:53 2017 UTC. The chair is echevemaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:58:53 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:58:53 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_latam_ambassadors_meeting_2017-07-22' 22:59:06 #meetingname fedora-latam 22:59:06 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-latam' 22:59:16 #topic Roll Call 22:59:42 .hellomynamis lin 23:00:00 .hellomynameis lin 23:00:01 JuanCarlosLin: lin 'Juan Carlos YJ Lin' 23:00:02 .fas echevemaster 23:00:05 echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' 23:00:08 Hi all 23:00:15 .fas alexove 23:00:16 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 23:00:16 * echevemaster Colombia - Venezuela 23:00:19 .fas bt0dotninja 23:00:19 .hellomynameis itamarjp 23:00:21 bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' 23:00:25 itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' 23:00:48 .fas josereyesjdi 23:00:52 yosef7: josereyesjdi 'Jose A. Reyes H.' 23:01:01 .fas chinosoliard 23:01:02 chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' 23:01:09 * chinosoliard from Argentina 23:01:22 * jwf watches from the back row :) 23:01:24 * alexove = Peru 23:01:55 There are no new tickets in the backlog 23:02:02 * bt0 bt0 from Mexico, I'm not ambassador member ...yet 23:02:10 * potty from Panama 23:02:10 #chair alexove itamarjp chinosoliard 23:02:10 Current chairs: alexove chinosoliard echevemaster itamarjp 23:02:35 bt0, welcome aboard. 23:02:46 May I take a seat 23:02:48 excuse me, I'm moving to laptop 23:02:49 Tired old man 23:02:54 #chair potty 23:02:54 Current chairs: alexove chinosoliard echevemaster itamarjp potty 23:02:58 Came by train to this meeting 23:03:05 hehe 23:03:14 Thank you very much kind sir 23:03:31 Your welcome gentleman 23:03:48 If anyone wants bring a topic to the meeting, please go ahead. 23:04:13 ! 23:04:21 it was expected for today check the FAD results, but still they are working on that. 23:04:23 * chinosoliard is back 23:04:24 alexove, go ahead. 23:04:32 Buenas noches/tardes a todos 23:04:56 aun nos queda algunas cosas por terminar para presentar los resultados del FAD 23:05:21 quisieramos que se pueda realizar una reunión el miercoles por UNICA VEZ 23:05:46 yo sugiero la misma hora que los meetings normales 23:05:49 EOF 23:05:50 .fas .yulytas 23:05:50 yulytas: '.yulytas' Not Found! 23:06:00 .fas yulytas 23:06:01 yulytas: yulytas 'Julita Inca Chiroque' 23:06:08 .hello2 23:06:09 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 23:06:14 ! 23:06:14 * chinosoliard sugiere que reveamos el tema de los dias/horarios de meetings 23:06:26 Ña 23:06:38 please don't hold the meeting on Wednesday, it is a business day. 23:06:42 JuanCarlosLin, go ahead 23:06:43 * alexove sugiere que hagamos una cosa por vez :-) 23:06:59 alexove 23:07:01 If need more time better next meeting 23:07:02 ! 23:07:03 Eof 23:07:13 chinosoliard, please first hands up 23:07:28 potty, go ahead 23:07:37 It is important to resume FAD outcomes for people that did not went 23:07:45 Take the time necessary to resume all 23:07:52 And present it on a regular meeting 23:07:55 * alexove esta de acuerdo si desean esperar hasta el proximo meeting :-) 23:07:58 exactly. 23:08:09 yes pls 23:08:10 No rush on show answers 23:08:17 Wait until you are ready 23:08:23 EOF 23:08:31 Los quiero chicos 23:08:33 Excelente trabajos 23:08:37 ! 23:08:38 En ese FAD 23:08:43 yes, anybody is pushing you alexove and guys. 23:08:46 x3mboy, go ahead 23:08:56 .fas tonet666p 23:08:58 tonet666p: tonet666p 'Tonet Jallo' 23:09:01 * tonet666p from Perú 23:09:03 Hi guys 23:09:13 Gracias muchachos, entonces haremos el trabajo con calma para el siguiente meeting :-D 23:09:27 Just to let you know that my event report is ready 23:09:30 alexove++ 23:09:30 chinosoliard: Karma for alexove changed to 1 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:09:36 potty++ 23:09:36 chinosoliard: Karma for potty changed to 1 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:09:38 echevemaster++ 23:09:39 chinosoliard: Karma for echevemaster changed to 1 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:09:42 alexove++ 23:09:42 yosef7: Karma for alexove changed to 2 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:09:49 potty++ 23:09:49 yosef7: Karma for potty changed to 2 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:09:54 And that we will work hard to have everything ready for the next meeting 23:10:11 x3mboy++ 23:10:11 chinosoliard: Karma for x3mboy changed to 4 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:10:12 x3mboy++ 23:10:13 alexove: Karma for x3mboy changed to 5 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:10:23 x3mboy, again if it takes more time, please feel free to take it 23:11:05 ok, thanks alexove for the update 23:11:13 anyone else wants bring a topic? 23:11:22 * chinosoliard think that we can finish until Wednesday, but should wait until next meeting 23:11:33 ! 23:11:44 yulytas, go ahead 23:12:26 thanks echeve, please could you help me with my ticket, I need to confirm my presence at CONecit, it is 417 23:13:28 yulytas, potty told us that your ticket was approved 23:13:31 it is in almost two weeks, eof 23:13:44 what is the problem? Do you need something? 23:13:57 I'm pretty sure that the ticket was approved already 23:14:14 oh, I did not know that, please put potty a message to know. I will write about this sponsorship in my blog, thanks guys 23:14:22 I said that was approved 23:14:23 :-/ 23:14:34 :-( 23:14:37 Ok 23:14:43 Miscommunication 23:14:44 I will update some ticket stuff 23:14:45 I though it must be written in the tickt ples 23:14:46 yes, in the last meeting before the FAD, potty told us that the ticket will be taken into account in the budget 23:14:49 just that :p 23:15:02 potty++ 23:15:02 ! 23:15:03 yulytas: Karma for potty changed to 3 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:15:07 thanks potty please put a message in the ticket 23:15:14 x3mboy, go ahead 23:15:26 Now, sr_kraken_m is an ambassador from MX 23:15:35 I want to give him a proper welcome 23:15:55 welcome sr_kraken_m ! 23:16:05 .fas srkraken 23:16:06 sr_kraken_m: srkraken 'Efren Antonio Robledo Moreno' 23:16:06 * bt0 Hello sr_kraken_m 23:16:11 hi 23:16:20 who was their mentor? x3mboy ? 23:16:21 "hola a todos buenas tardes " 23:16:21 Also, Council position about MX being NA (as written) or LATAM (as map shows) it will be up to MX team 23:16:30 welcome aboard officialy sr_kraken_m 23:16:35 sr_kraken_m hi and welcome to Fedora :D 23:17:07 echevemaster, no idea, I'm just helping him to put MX together and integrate it into LATAM 23:17:44 .fasinfo sr_kraken 23:17:45 x3mboy: User "sr_kraken" doesn't exist 23:17:51 ok, Just saying, why because if there are more people from MX, we need willing mentors for them 23:17:54 m is missing 23:18:00 my username is "srkraken" 23:18:02 Ooops 23:18:09 .fasinfo sr_kraken_m 23:18:10 yulytas: User "sr_kraken_m" doesn't exist 23:18:17 .fasinfo srkraken 23:18:18 According to me my mentor was such an echevemaster 23:18:18 echevemaster: User: srkraken, Name: Efren Antonio Robledo Moreno, email: efren.a.rm@gmail.com, Creation: 2014-10-15, IRC Nick: srkraken, Timezone: America/Mexico_City, Locale: es, GPG key ID: 27891F4D, Status: active 23:18:21 echevemaster: Unapproved Groups: func amber_admins test3 hgLHCP gitabout-fedora gitbackgrounds gitdell-config-cluster gitsos l10n-editor gitfedora-magazine 23:18:24 echevemaster: Approved Groups: +fedora-mx fedora-pr cla_fpca cla_done fedora-ni fedora-cl gitcmake-fedora icaroproject ambassadors 23:18:52 LOL 23:18:54 sr_kraken_m, :) 23:19:02 Ok, welcome again 23:19:32 ok, guys, I remember, his mentor, is lokomurdok from panama! 23:19:39 as Ambassador. 23:19:56 but, please for the new mentors, alexove and the guy from brazil 23:20:02 thanks to all 23:20:03 help them, if it's needed 23:20:17 I am going to apply to be a mentor also :) 23:20:27 .fasinfo davigarcia 23:20:28 davigarcia: User: davigarcia, Name: None, email: davivcgarcia@gmail.com, Creation: 2012-04-24, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: None, Locale: None, GPG key ID: None, Status: active 23:20:32 davigarcia: Approved Groups: fedora-br cla_fpca cla_done ambassadors 23:20:38 yulytas, go ahead 23:20:42 echevemaster, we are proposed as new mentors but oficially we are not ambassador mentors 23:20:43 some students from Lima wants to be Fedora formally too 23:20:55 Sorry for being late... 23:20:58 alexove, and what happened? 23:21:28 yulytas: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join 23:22:00 echevemaster: We are waiting for famsco action 23:22:02 what is the process to be a mentor? 23:22:06 alexove, please investigate about that and let me know what happened. 23:22:07 The process is still not out from FAmSCO 23:22:19 yulytas, FaMsCo is discussing it. 23:22:27 It should be out next month 23:22:29 echevemaster: Ok, I will ask to famsco members and will inform you :-) 23:22:37 but still the complete process is not approved 23:22:59 ! 23:23:16 we need you guys to start to graduate people in ambassadors 23:23:22 chinosoliard, go ahead 23:23:26 BTW.. 23:23:32 #topic OpenFloor 23:23:46 one of the things we discussed on FAD is the low preparation of mentors. Mentors don't teach every step, also mentors don't know the steps 23:23:48 thanks echevemaster 23:24:07 x3mboy, I think we don't write nothing about it. But we should discuss that 23:24:08 yo tambien quiero ser mentor para ayudar a crear mas embajadores activos para Mexico 23:24:31 a lot of mentors are not prepared to be mentors, also, a lot of ambassadors are not prepared to be ambassadors 23:24:50 chinosoliard++ 23:24:50 tonet666p: Karma for asoliard changed to 1 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:24:51 chinosoliard++ 23:24:51 asoliard++ 23:24:53 * echevemaster thinking in become in a mentor.... of mentors 23:24:54 x3mboy: Karma for asoliard changed to 2 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:25:03 and some ambassadors think that he only need to be ambassadors, and that they don't need to contribute to other subprojects 23:25:03 chinosoliard++ 23:25:03 alexove: Karma for asoliard changed to 3 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:25:05 ! 23:25:08 EOF 23:25:15 alexove, go ahead 23:25:27 chinosoliard: +1 23:25:46 chinosoliard++ 23:26:07 * chinosoliard want to say that sr_kraken_m is a old contributor. I've seen him for the last 4 years, at least 23:26:07 chinosoliard++ 23:26:07 yosef7: Karma for asoliard changed to 4 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:26:15 como dijo chinosoliard, no todos los embajadores están preparados para ser mentores y algunos embajadores tampoco estan preparados para ser embajadores 23:26:27 exactly. they are with us since Nicaragua 23:26:37 I have ideas to propose how to measure it :) 23:27:04 una de las cosas que discutimos bastante fue eso y durante la semana dejaremos este debate como parte del reporte del FAD 23:27:14 yulytas, we have procedures, ideas must be proposed instead being mentor or not 23:27:22 y veremos la mejor forma de arreglar estos problemas 23:27:24 EOF 23:27:35 alexove++ 23:27:46 thnks alexove++ 23:27:53 alexove++ 23:28:03 alexove++ 23:28:03 tonet666p: Karma for alexove changed to 3 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:28:18 ok, seems we don't have anything more to discuss for today. 23:28:24 May i close this meeting? 23:28:46 ok 23:28:47 ! 23:28:50 yulytas++ 23:28:50 chinosoliard: Karma for yulytas changed to 1 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:28:52 thanks again 23:29:19 can we talk a little about meeting date/time? 23:29:20 :O I will give a ballon of Fedora chino xd 23:29:23 chinosoliard, 23:29:33 yulytas, stop doing that crap 23:29:46 what? 23:29:48 * bt0 wants to know what knowledge is necessary to be ambassador 23:30:00 I mean, can we, at least, choose 3 or 4 option to vote on pagure? 23:30:09 what is wrong now? ok, I will give you a ballon too ;) 23:30:25 I think pagure is OK 23:30:35 chinosoliard, what do you mean? the ticket for? 23:30:45 stop behaving like this 23:31:05 how inmature is that 23:31:12 choose 4 "options" for changing meeting date/time, write it on pagure, and vote in pagure a change (or not) 23:31:49 tonet666p yulytas stop. 23:32:06 why? because meetings takes 1 hour, and it's more comfortable for some of us to "cut" a (work)day between monday-friday that in weekends 23:32:09 chinosoliard, please so, add the four, five, six choices there 23:32:23 ok echevemaster, I only tried to be nice with chino 23:32:29 yulytas: intenta no interrumpir a los demás mientras hablan, como alternativa puedes usar el comando "me" para no distraer mucho -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC/Tutorial#What_are_some_basic_commands.3F 23:32:34 echevemaster, are you harried? (no sé si eso significa apurado :-P) 23:32:47 * in a hurry 23:32:54 no, I'm not. 23:32:59 thanks, yulytas 23:33:03 me neither 23:33:08 echevemaster, so let decide some options, can we? 23:33:21 our main problem is the timezone 23:33:23 but, when it was decided for first time, decide the choices was a nightmare 23:33:25 chinosoliard: ¿hay algun ticket pendiente? 23:33:37 so, please be a benevolent dictator and add some choices 23:33:42 alexove, nope, swag for latam nomás 23:33:46 there is any ticket 23:33:47 alexove, no, I said first, that not. 23:34:20 being in Argentina, meetings is at 20:00 local time. For me is "comfortable", but, for example in Peru, it's 18:00, I don't think this is comfortable 23:34:49 chinosoliard, propose the time in UTC 23:35:42 it is OK to me so far, but if everyone want to change it, I will obey 23:36:22 my first question is: do you prefer at the morning/afternoon/night? 23:36:58 For me, it depends if it is weekdays or weekend... =P 23:37:04 the second question is: what day is better for you? 23:37:19 * echevemaster cooking popcorn in the microwave, waiting for the people discuss the time of the meeting, He has seen this a lot of times. 23:37:34 what business day is ok for all of you guys? 23:37:41 * alexove piensa que hora de ahora esta bien, ya se decidio esto muchas veces y llegamos a lo mismo 23:38:43 Thursdays is my day off, if you ask me 23:38:50 * x3mboy knows that we vote negative in the last or previous last meetings 23:39:08 There was a ticket about it 23:39:09 chinosoliard, if the date of the meeting is changed, you have to be sure, that people will attend, I know that is a bit hard attend to this meeting at weekends, but the people is used to attend 23:39:09 I mean, I'm not in trouble assisting this time (in summer could be different), but, people who is asking for change the date/time should propose the times 23:39:33 chinosoliard, because of that, davigarcia asked the same some weeks ago 23:39:53 Yes. 23:39:56 other think we discuss on FAD is the way of voting 23:39:59 Anybody changed the time of the meeting, so, does not make sense repeat it. 23:40:02 echevemaster, I know! 23:40:05 I'm +1 on hanging it, don't get me wrong, but nobody wants to change it in voting time 23:40:52 x3mboy, it's ok! As I said before, meeting time is not a problem for me, but, why there are people that haven't assist for over 2 years? 23:41:14 chinosoliard, because they don't want to attend. 23:41:31 for example, Saturdays and sundays are my family days 23:41:44 my wife is waiting for me right now. 23:41:46 echevemaster, rino wrote me one hour ago, asking me to propose this, because he can't attend for the time 23:41:56 and I respect my meeting time. 23:42:09 chinosoliard, I'm agreed with you 23:42:23 echevemaster, I understand. What about moving one hour after? 23:42:37 ! 23:42:42 echevemaster, but you can't take a extended meeting, and you should know that long discuss happens 23:42:43 chinosoliard, if all the people is agreed, go ahead 23:42:46 * alexove piensa que tratemos de tener una hora y dia adecuado para que la mayoria asista, no lo cambiemos para que una sola persona venga 23:42:49 jwf, go ahead. 23:43:28 Perhaps instead of trying to decide in IRC (also missing the people who can't make this time), you could use a tool like WhenIsGood to create a survey that people can choose the times that work well for them and send it to the mailing list: http://whenisgood.net/ 23:43:41 x3mboy, I don't understand 23:43:43 So long as everyone chooses their own time zone when filling the times, you will be able to see the best times for the most people 23:43:48 And make a decision based on that 23:43:55 jwf, that is written in the ticket. :) 23:44:02 Ahhh, I see, I must have missed that 23:44:04 and anybody voted in that tool hehehe 23:44:08 jwf, I didn't know about it! 23:44:13 But perhaps that would be best instead of discussing here 23:44:21 echevemaster, I'll do that. We should do that 23:44:23 So then you can decide on facts by what times have the most people present 23:44:25 exactly jwf thanks!! 23:44:40 It's also hard to plan this in IRC because you are missing the people who are not able to make this time. :) 23:44:46 So maybe best to do it this way. 23:44:48 EOF 23:44:55 chinosoliard, go ahead and just do it bro. 23:45:04 jwf++ 23:45:05 chinosoliard: Karma for jflory7 changed to 7 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:45:18 chinosoliard: Just make sure when you send it, that you emphasize that people make sure to choose their time zone 23:45:23 echevemaster, I'll do that. And I'll write a mail asking people from LATAM to do so 23:45:25 Sometimes it's not obvious you can change the time zone 23:45:33 If people don't change the time zone for their time, then it's pointless. :D 23:45:48 * jwf has made that mistake before… 23:46:28 jwf, sure! It's not obvious, and we have people here that do thinks without reading nothing :_P 23:46:51 so... That was all my topic. 23:46:52 EOM 23:47:02 thanks for bring it chinosoliard 23:47:13 ok, based on this, 23:47:22 echevemaster++ 23:47:22 srkraken: Karma for echevemaster changed to 2 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:47:37 Please, we can take it on a ticket. Also voting system have a new proposal that should go out next week with the results of the FAD 23:47:39 #action chinosoliard will send to the list a question asking about the change of the date/time of the meeting 23:47:46 chinosoliard++ 23:47:46 jwf: Karma for asoliard changed to 5 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:47:51 echevemaster <3 23:47:57 ok 23:48:00 chinosoliard++ 23:48:15 chinosoliard, plese reopen the ticket 23:48:27 https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/415 23:48:59 May I close this meeting? 23:49:03 yes 23:49:04 done 23:49:04 yulytas++ 23:49:04 srkraken: Karma for yulytas changed to 2 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 23:49:15 thanks all for attend 23:49:19 Have a nice rest of your weekend, folks :) 23:49:24 #endmeeting