17:00:11 <geppetto> #startmeeting fpc
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17:00:11 <geppetto> #meetingname fpc
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17:00:11 <geppetto> #topic Roll Call
17:00:18 * limburgher here
17:00:18 <mbooth> Hi
17:00:20 <tibbs> Hey, folks.
17:00:22 <orionp> hello
17:00:24 <geppetto> #chair mbooth
17:00:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto mbooth
17:00:26 <geppetto> #chair limburgher
17:00:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto limburgher mbooth
17:00:27 <tibbs> It's another incredibly crazy day for me.
17:00:29 <geppetto> #chair orionp
17:00:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto limburgher mbooth orionp
17:00:32 <ignatenkobrain> .hello2
17:00:35 <geppetto> #chair tibbs
17:00:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto limburgher mbooth orionp tibbs
17:00:35 <zodbot> ignatenkobrain: ignatenkobrain 'Igor Gnatenko' <ignatenko@redhat.com>
17:00:43 <Rathann> hi
17:00:44 <geppetto> #chair Rathann
17:00:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: Rathann geppetto limburgher mbooth orionp tibbs
17:00:48 <tibbs> First week of the semester, I leave for Boston tomorrow and they're throwing a surprise party for my assistant.
17:00:51 <tibbs> So I will be in and out.
17:01:15 <geppetto> Ok, hopefully your assistant isn't in the channel ;)
17:01:35 * Rathann is annoyed at small regressions in 4.12 kernel
17:01:49 <tibbs> He does the Windows stuff so I don't have to.
17:01:56 <limburgher> NICE
17:02:01 <limburgher> I have one of those.
17:02:03 <geppetto> The main thing I'd heard about were the big regressions
17:04:07 <geppetto> #topic Schedule
17:04:09 <geppetto> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/RQPUXLVX4C7KFZCIMRMHABNF2BLGPMOQ/
17:04:13 <tibbs> I haven't had any issues with the Fedora 4.12 kernels personally.
17:04:16 <geppetto> Given we have 6, might as well start
17:04:25 <geppetto> #topic #654 glibc file triggers
17:04:28 <geppetto> .fpc 654
17:04:30 <zodbot> geppetto: Issue #654: glibc file triggers - packaging-committee - Pagure - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/654
17:04:51 <tibbs> I did have problems with mainline (they broke tape library support) but I worked with the scsi devs to get it fixed and Fedora patched it for me.
17:05:20 <geppetto> Cool
17:05:29 <geppetto> For some reason I thought there was an update for this ticket
17:05:41 <tibbs> So unfortunately I have not had time to keep up with even what happened last week.
17:05:42 <geppetto> But the last one is my summary from the last meeting
17:06:08 <tibbs> There was some movement in the upstream bug.
17:06:28 <tibbs> But basically the glibc folks are being incredibly conservative with this.  Which I guess I understand, but it's rawhide, not RHEL.
17:06:57 <tibbs> Really given all of the other glibc breakage, they have enough on their collective plate without worrying about breakage caused by this.
17:07:35 * geppetto nods … so probably not getting the change for F27 ?:)
17:08:05 <tibbs> The only thing the glibc folks will accept is an ironclad guarantee that a package will fail to build if it does not package the proper SO symlinks.
17:08:53 <tibbs> I have given up worrying about package that install things to /etc/ld.so.conf.d.
17:09:17 <tibbs> It so rare that even if I can find no reason that a file trigger on that directory would be insufficient, I don't have the energy to argue.
17:09:41 * geppetto nods
17:09:45 <tibbs> Otherwise it basically comes down to them wanting some kind of absolute proof that nothing bad will happen.
17:10:49 <geppetto> :(
17:12:57 <geppetto> Ok .... moving on
17:13:12 <geppetto> #topic #691 noarch *sub*packages with arch-specific dependencies
17:13:16 <geppetto> .fpc 691
17:13:17 <zodbot> geppetto: Issue #691: guidelines change: noarch *sub*packages with arch-specific dependencies - packaging-committee - Pagure - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/691
17:13:35 <geppetto> I don't think anything has changed here … but might as well have a quick checkin given we have the time
17:13:41 <geppetto> #chair tomspur
17:13:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: Rathann geppetto limburgher mbooth orionp tibbs tomspur
17:14:03 * tomspur is late because of a traffic jam
17:14:47 <geppetto> tomspur: No problem, not much happening this week
17:16:52 <Rathann> did anyone have time to talk to releng?
17:17:17 <geppetto> Not me
17:17:25 <geppetto> tibbs: ?
17:20:22 * limburgher was AFK. . .sorry. . .hope no one noticed.
17:20:44 <geppetto> limburgher: no problem
17:21:29 <geppetto> I'm guessing tibbs has been called away … not a big deal.
17:21:33 <geppetto> #topic Open Floor
17:21:41 <geppetto> Anything anyone wants to talk about?
17:23:15 <limburgher> No.
17:24:17 <Rathann> me neither
17:25:07 <geppetto> Ok, I'll close in a minute or two then
17:25:21 <geppetto> There probably won't be a meeting next week as I'll be at flock
17:25:44 <geppetto> So next one will be two weeks from now on a Wed. again (to keep the calendar/schedule).
17:26:21 <tomspur> ok
17:26:55 <tomspur> I'll switch jobs in a few weeks, where I should be able to better attend the meetings again :)
17:27:31 <geppetto> tomspur: Cool, good luck on the new job 👍
17:27:50 <Rathann> yes, good luck, tomspur
17:28:24 <limburgher> SAme
17:28:47 <tomspur> Thanks! There is still the possibilty to choose Fedora as operation system over there. Let's see how that turns out
17:30:51 <geppetto> #endmeeting