23:06:57 <chinosoliard_> #startmeeting Fedora LATAM
23:06:57 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Aug 26 23:06:57 2017 UTC.  The chair is chinosoliard_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
23:06:57 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
23:06:57 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_latam'
23:07:21 <chinosoliard_> #topic Rollcall
23:07:38 <chinosoliard_> .fas chinosoliard
23:07:41 <zodbot> chinosoliard_: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' <me@chinosoliard.com>
23:07:43 * chinosoliard_ from Argentina
23:07:48 <douglax> .fas douglax
23:07:49 <zodbot> douglax: aacosta 'Alejandro Acosta' <alxacostaa@gmail.com>
23:08:04 * douglax from México
23:08:10 <chinosoliard_> .chair douglax
23:08:13 <zodbot> douglax is seated in a chair with a nice view of a placid lake, unsuspecting that another chair is about to be slammed into them.
23:09:34 <chinosoliard_> .chairs
23:09:34 <chinosoliard_> #chairs
23:09:34 <chinosoliard_> .chairs
23:09:35 <chinosoliard_> #chair douglax
23:09:35 <zodbot> Current chairs: chinosoliard_ douglax
23:09:38 <JuanCarlosLin> .hellomynameis lin
23:09:39 <zodbot> JuanCarlosLin: lin 'Juan Carlos YJ Lin' <lin@unisoft.com.py>
23:10:02 <douglax> > douglax is seated in a chair with a nice view of a placid lake, unsuspecting that another chair is about to be slammed into them.
23:10:03 <douglax> :(
23:10:17 <chinosoliard_> listen, wait for me 1 minute, I'm changing connection
23:12:01 <douglax> NP
23:13:19 <chinosoliard> ok
23:13:21 <chinosoliard> do you see me?
23:13:31 <JuanCarlosLin> Yes
23:13:43 <chinosoliard> I'm in a HAM Radio contest, so, when someone transmit, cut the internet
23:13:49 <douglax> chinosoliard:  I do
23:14:02 <chinosoliard> ok... how many of us are present?
23:14:35 <chinosoliard> only 3?
23:14:50 <douglax> Apparently only 3 of us
23:14:57 <chinosoliard> #chairs
23:14:58 <JuanCarlosLin> I am affraid yes
23:15:02 <chinosoliard> .chairs
23:15:35 <chinosoliard> ok. I'm no chair right now
23:15:43 <chinosoliard> so... Someone have to take the control
23:15:49 <chinosoliard> I'll guide.
23:16:13 <chinosoliard> #chair
23:16:23 <douglax> .chair chinosoliard
23:16:23 <zodbot> chinosoliard is seated in a chair with a nice view of a placid lake, unsuspecting that another chair is about to be slammed into them.
23:16:32 <chinosoliard> it's #chair
23:16:36 <douglax> .chairs
23:17:02 <chinosoliard> #chairs
23:17:07 <chinosoliard> I don't know what's happening
23:17:13 <douglax> #chair chinosoliard
23:17:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: chinosoliard chinosoliard_ douglax
23:17:13 <chinosoliard> But well...
23:17:18 <chinosoliard> ok
23:17:43 <chinosoliard> this are the issues that we should discuss or complete today:
23:17:46 <chinosoliard> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issues?status=Open&tags=Meeting
23:18:56 <chinosoliard> unfortunately, there's no people present. So... I will ask you to see 2 things today:
23:19:26 <chinosoliard> #topic Sponsoring request for Adrian Soliard [Asoliard] to attend to SasoConf
23:19:32 <chinosoliard> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/405
23:20:05 <chinosoliard> that ticket is from 2 or 3 month ago. potty ask me to be harry with this, The ticket is being voted on pagure. So, you can vote there.
23:20:10 <JuanCarlosLin> But need quorom to vote
23:20:24 <chinosoliard> JuanCarlosLin, that ticket is being voted on pagure
23:20:41 <chinosoliard> if you vote, we can finally close that (old) ticket
23:20:59 <chinosoliard> so... I'm askin you right now, but I'll add an "action" here
23:21:25 <chinosoliard> #action: people should vote on pagure for issue 405 (https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/405)
23:21:40 <chinosoliard> #action people should vote on pagure for issue 405 (https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/405)
23:22:05 <douglax> I seeno problem with it, specially since it has been poitively voted in pagure, so
23:22:06 <chinosoliard> mmmm, I don't know what's happening with zodbot
23:22:09 <douglax> +1
23:22:17 <douglax> *see no
23:22:33 <JuanCarlosLin> But is may 26
23:22:33 <JuanCarlosLin> Already old
23:22:35 * bt0 let me see
23:22:51 <bt0> .fas bt0dotninja
23:22:51 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com>
23:24:01 <bt0> try undo chinosoliard, just to check
23:24:12 <chinosoliard> #undo
23:24:12 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by chinosoliard at 23:21:40 : people should vote on pagure for issue 405 (https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/405)
23:24:32 <chinosoliard> ow... ok
23:24:37 <chinosoliard> #action people should vote on pagure for issue 405 (https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/405)
23:24:48 <chinosoliard> bt0++
23:24:52 <JuanCarlosLin> Page not found 404
23:24:54 <chinosoliard> bt0: thanks!
23:25:01 <bt0> :)
23:25:09 <chinosoliard> JuanCarlosLin, what page?
23:25:34 <JuanCarlosLin> To vot on 405
23:25:53 <chinosoliard> Try again late, please. It's working for me
23:26:05 <chinosoliard> (and Mozilla Thunderbird told me that for douglax too)
23:26:57 <chinosoliard> can we move to ticket 415? (Proposal for change the group meeting date/time.)
23:27:01 <chinosoliard> potty, ping
23:27:01 <zodbot> chinosoliard: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings
23:27:08 <chinosoliard> pionen[m], here?
23:27:11 <chinosoliard> potty, ???
23:28:08 <JuanCarlosLin> Done +1
23:28:55 <chinosoliard> before moving to the other ticket, I'll count votes on 405
23:29:55 <chinosoliard> It have 6 votes... I'll talk with potty later
23:30:04 <chinosoliard> let's talk about 415
23:30:16 <chinosoliard> #topic Proposal for change the group meeting date/time.
23:30:21 <chinosoliard> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/415
23:30:52 <chinosoliard> I post half an hour ago on the ticket. I published the last votation status
23:31:39 <chinosoliard> As you can see right now, we've no people on meetings... no f***ing people. We can't advance
23:32:12 <chinosoliard> best times are thursday 21:00 UTC, or friday 14:00
23:32:16 <chinosoliard> (UTC)
23:32:26 <chinosoliard> I'm talking alone here? :-/
23:32:47 <JuanCarlosLin> No
23:32:54 <douglax> no, we're following along
23:32:58 <chinosoliard> ok
23:33:14 <chinosoliard> so, my opinion is: we *must* change meeting time
23:33:35 <douglax> !
23:33:42 <chinosoliard> douglax, go ahead, please
23:34:27 <douglax> I don't find this hour suitable for me also, but I also think that changing it will guarantee a bigger audience
23:34:38 <douglax> *will not
23:35:17 <douglax> Personally I was hoping to changing it to Tuesday evening, but it even wasn't in the choices
23:36:00 <douglax> and - like me- there is always going to be people with troubles with the hour we select
23:36:26 <douglax> I'm not objecting with changing it, I'm just a bit skeptical
23:36:29 <douglax> EOF
23:36:34 <JuanCarlosLin> But saturday at this time I need to cancell family outgoings to keep meeting
23:36:45 <douglax> Yes, me too
23:36:47 <chinosoliard> douglax, you're right. my mistake.
23:36:55 <chinosoliard> JuanCarlosLin, yes! that's my worst problem
23:37:07 <bt0> (or get a good irc app for the phone)
23:37:09 <douglax> chinosoliard: , what do you mean?
23:37:29 <chinosoliard> douglax, JuanCarlosLin, what do you think on remake the choises with all times/days availables?
23:37:45 <chinosoliard> douglax, my mistake to select the times availables!
23:38:36 <chinosoliard> I've to clarify: people who select these 2 "best time", is people who regulary attend, very active
23:38:37 <JuanCarlosLin> Yes
23:38:42 <chinosoliard> Ok...
23:38:49 <douglax> Oh, no problem.
23:39:14 <douglax> Yes, we need to foresee for the attendance of most active people
23:39:16 <chinosoliard> #action chinosoliard will re-create the WhenIsGood event with all times available
23:39:33 <douglax> Not just yet!!!
23:40:02 <chinosoliard> douglax, why?
23:40:18 <douglax> If active people is ok with the selected hour I wouldn't be comfortable with calling another voting round
23:40:33 <chinosoliard> #undo
23:40:33 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by chinosoliard at 23:39:16 : chinosoliard will re-create the WhenIsGood event with all times available
23:40:42 <chinosoliard> douglax, you're right
23:41:07 <chinosoliard> one problem is yn1v[m], who said that he was looking for more options
23:41:28 <douglax> I think the decision to be made is either 1) keep it as it is now or 2) move it to most voted one
23:41:37 <chinosoliard> but now I think I force people to choose times that I choose
23:42:21 <chinosoliard> should I ask people to vote between the 2 "best time" from WhenIsGood?
23:42:37 <douglax> Maybe, but sometimes you have to do that, because you just can't  take everybody's opinion into account
23:43:10 <douglax> specially, those -like me- that haven't been very active lately
23:43:32 <JuanCarlosLin> Soorry
23:43:51 <douglax> JuanCarlosLin: what for?
23:44:13 <JuanCarlosLin> Sorry
23:44:16 <chinosoliard> so...
23:44:20 <chinosoliard> action LATAM Ambassadors must vote between the 2 options (Thursday 21:00 UTC and Friday 14:00 UTC) on pagure. Link: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/415
23:44:30 <JuanCarlosLin> Schedule option
23:44:32 <chinosoliard> should I put this action?
23:45:41 <chinosoliard> ?
23:45:48 <JuanCarlosLin> For me is ok
23:45:59 <chinosoliard> douglax?
23:46:00 <douglax> Yes, that may be the next voting
23:46:03 <JuanCarlosLin> Let see the voting results
23:46:09 <chinosoliard> ok
23:46:13 <douglax> I mean
23:46:18 <chinosoliard> action LATAM Ambassadors must vote between the 2 options (Thursday 21:00 UTC and Friday 14:00 UTC) on pagure. Link: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/415
23:46:20 <chinosoliard> #action LATAM Ambassadors must vote between the 2 options (Thursday 21:00 UTC and Friday 14:00 UTC) on pagure. Link: https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/415
23:46:37 <douglax> It is fair to assume that people have decided to move it
23:47:03 <douglax> let's just see which of the two most popular choices gets elected
23:47:17 <chinosoliard> I asked via email, telegram, irc, and smoke signals to people vote actual time if they want to stay
23:47:38 <chinosoliard> move to openfloor?
23:47:42 <douglax> Yes, I know it can get to be frustrating
23:48:00 <douglax> chinosoliard: thank you for your effort and your pattience
23:48:09 <JuanCarlosLin> Yes but I voted and not see my results
23:48:27 <chinosoliard> <JuanCarlosLin> Yes but I voted and not see my results <- what?
23:48:59 <chinosoliard> JuanCarlosLin, you're the second one, after athos
23:49:05 <JuanCarlosLin> The schedule.. i shiws as I never voted on any schedule
23:49:52 <chinosoliard> #topic OpenFloor
23:50:10 <chinosoliard> I don't know if someone have something to add
23:50:15 <douglax> No additional topic on me
23:50:21 <chinosoliard> JuanCarlosLin, bt0 ?
23:50:39 <bt0> no
23:50:40 <JuanCarlosLin> Me
23:50:56 <chinosoliard> JuanCarlosLin, go ahead :)
23:51:20 <JuanCarlosLin> Just need to try to find a way to have more participants on our meetings
23:51:35 <JuanCarlosLin> Something is no good enougth
23:51:50 <JuanCarlosLin> Is me feeling may be wrong
23:51:53 <JuanCarlosLin> Eof
23:52:07 <chinosoliard> I'm on that! What we need to do is to stop approving founds for people who attends meetings only when need money
23:52:23 <chinosoliard> JuanCarlosLin, you're right!
23:52:37 <bt0> sad but true
23:52:38 <chinosoliard> And I have the same problem, saturdays I'm with my family
23:53:28 <JuanCarlosLin> Yes Saturdya is not easy day at this time
23:53:47 <chinosoliard> JuanCarlosLin, we've worked on that in FAD LATAM too. We are working on make ambassadors more active, and giving ambassadors the ways to make the work
23:53:52 <JuanCarlosLin> But I see your effort and be happy that you are doing
23:54:02 <chinosoliard> thanks, JuanCarlosLin
23:54:09 <chinosoliard> should I close that meeting?
23:54:16 <JuanCarlosLin> Hope you have sucess
23:54:19 <douglax> yes, fine with me
23:54:20 <JuanCarlosLin> For me is ok
23:54:27 <bt0> ok
23:54:28 <chinosoliard> ok
23:54:31 <chinosoliard> thanks everyone!
23:54:35 <chinosoliard> #endmeeting