17:02:09 #startmeeting RELENG (2017-10-05) 17:02:09 Meeting started Thu Oct 5 17:02:09 2017 UTC. The chair is mboddu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:02:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:02:09 The meeting name has been set to 'releng_(2017-10-05)' 17:02:09 #meetingname releng 17:02:09 #chair dgilmore nirik tyll sharkcz masta pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk maxamillion mboddu Kellin 17:02:09 #topic init process 17:02:09 The meeting name has been set to 'releng' 17:02:09 Current chairs: Kellin dgilmore masta maxamillion mboddu nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk sharkcz tyll 17:02:18 morning 17:02:26 .hello2 17:02:27 mboddu: Sorry, but you don't exist 17:02:36 hey gang 17:02:37 .hello mohanboddu 17:02:38 mboddu: mohanboddu 'Mohan Boddu' 17:02:41 .hell2 17:02:45 .hello2 17:02:45 haha 17:02:45 bowlofeggs: bowlofeggs 'Randy Barlow' 17:03:16 * mboddu wonders why my .hello didn't work but .hello worked 17:03:39 s/.hello didn't/.hello2 didn't/ 17:03:43 hello2 needs your irc nick to be the same as your fas name. if it's not it won't work 17:04:05 nirik: ahhh, okay, then I will use .hello 17:04:40 .hello maxamillion 17:04:41 maxamillion: maxamillion 'Adam Miller' 17:06:15 Okay, I dont have much for today, but lets get started with alt arch updates 17:06:30 #topic Alternative Architectures updates 17:06:36 * threebean waves 17:06:40 sharkcz: any updates? 17:06:42 threebean: o/ 17:06:52 puiterwijk, nirik : whats the status on s390x? 17:07:17 s390x is great! the link to the builders... not so great. ;) 17:07:28 mboddu: ppc (and aarch64) look both good, for s390x I got lorax fixed (in updates-testing) 17:07:30 nirik: haha, rofl 17:07:48 various solutions are being discussed, not sure we need to rehash them here. 17:08:34 mboddu: the tools should work in pungi, it works when run manually 17:08:38 #info ppc and aarch64 looking good and a new lorax update for s390x is submitted 17:09:11 sharkcz: what do you mean by running manually and what tools? You mean composes? 17:09:32 #undo 17:09:32 Removing item from minutes: INFO by mboddu at 17:08:38 : ppc and aarch64 looking good and a new lorax update for s390x is submitted 17:09:48 #info ppc and aarch64 are looking good and a new lorax update for s390x is submitted 17:09:56 mboddu: right now lorax with the similar command line as pungi sends to koji 17:10:12 so I get the install.img & co created 17:11:32 sharkcz: okay, but the problem is mount link to the builders, so how is lorax update going to fix it? 17:12:04 mboddu: it isn't, it uses http to get to the repos 17:12:19 but for testing it's good enough 17:12:35 nirik: Do you think it will be solved by final RC compose request? 17:12:42 sharkcz: oh okay 17:12:56 no idea, but we will try 17:13:01 nirik, puiterwijk : ^^ What do you think of using http? 17:13:36 it won't work. 17:14:11 at least my understanding is that it needs local repos and needs to write results 17:14:23 nirik: is it pungi requirement on /mnt/koji? 17:14:57 nirik: ^^ what you said 17:14:58 yes, it needs to: a) run on the arch it's composing for and b) read and write repos / files that are on /mnt/koji 17:15:16 ask dgilmore for details. Thats just what I have been told. 17:16:54 nirik: yeah, I know about the pungi requirement of repo availability in /mnt/koji, but I am not sure if it has changed recently 17:17:01 afaik the runroot task in koji initiated by pungi need more data from the /mnt/koji than only the repos 17:17:28 I don't think it's changed. 17:19:14 sharkcz: Okay, I will check with dgilmore, but I dont think we can use http 17:20:00 #action mboddu will check with dgilmore if we can use http to access the repos for composing s390x. 17:20:42 #info infra is still figuring out how to make the connection to s390x builders stable 17:22:11 Okay, moving on 17:22:18 #topic Open Floor 17:22:35 I got one thing 17:23:54 nirik: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/09/26/firefox-quantum-beta-developer-edition/ not that its important that a new version of firefox is releasing but I am concerned about Rust 17:24:13 And we have a ticket for it - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6889 17:24:42 nirik: When do you think we should try https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6889#comment-460010 17:25:58 The reason I brought it up now because, f27 beta is out and for me it feels like its the best time to test something since we will have some time now 17:25:59 we already did that. ;) 17:26:17 nirik: I didn't know that, so, what was the result? 17:26:18 it works fine in rawhide, but will break with mash. So, now we need to wait on the switching bodhi to pungi work 17:27:00 nirik: is it tracked somewhere? 17:27:20 I don't know. I think maxamillion was looking at it now... 17:28:12 * mboddu wonders how he missed it 🤔 17:28:58 nirik: yes, maxamillion took over the bodhi to pungi work or he is in the transition 17:29:21 we could update this ticket above with that info... 17:29:30 o/ 17:29:44 yeah, I'm still fighting OSBS fires but I'll get to that ASAP 17:29:45 sorry 17:29:47 in two meetings 17:30:00 nirik: Can you do that and put any findings you remember while you tried it? 17:30:09 sure 17:30:19 maxamillion: no problem :) 17:30:25 can I raise https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7054 ? 17:30:51 what all kinds of things do we need to line up for that? an outage ticket probably for starters? 17:31:06 threebean: sure, but we need dgilmore for that, unless nirik knows how to upgrade koji 17:31:34 we have a ansible playbook for that now. ;) 17:31:36 mboddu: FF builds with the bundled rust pieces fine on all arches, don't think it's blocked the rust packaging changes 17:31:37 http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/tree/playbooks/manual/upgrade/koji.yml 17:32:26 threebean was hoping someone on rel eng to do this upgrade as he is incredibly booked, but the upgrade blocks modularity 17:32:31 yeah, outage ticket I guess... I am also planning on trying to finish moving builders to f26... but that can be another time/out of outage 17:32:48 I can do it... early next week ok? or needed sooner? 17:32:52 nirik, threebean : Okay, I think it needs more than that, but I am more than happy if everything is in ansible playbook 17:32:52 nirik: can you recommend time for the outage? if we schedule it, I can help. 17:33:08 and we can do stg today/tomorrow? 17:33:20 next week works here, yeah. 17:33:26 how about monday at 21UTC? 17:33:37 fwiw, I'm free monday or tuesday evening to help. 17:33:41 +1 17:33:45 I think that is 5pm EDT? which means most east coast people are off home 17:34:23 I might update/reboot other stuff then too perhaps... 17:34:32 at least the koji db server 17:34:40 a caveat - I won't be back at my laptop until ~23 UTC that day. 17:35:40 nirik: Can I follow what you are doing during the upgrade? So, I can do it next time if needed, assuming I have the permissions it needs 17:37:15 sure thing. You can run the playbook if you like too... I don't care. ;) 17:38:07 I can write an outage ticket up. 17:38:08 nirik: sure, thanks :) 17:38:17 just confirming: koji upgrade with mboddu and nirik this coming monady at 21utc? 17:38:20 threebean / mboddu: will you have time to update stg today/tomorrow? 17:38:38 I could run it now, but iirc bowlofeggs is running some tests. 17:38:53 yes, I think he is... so after his testing 17:38:58 mboddu: if you're free tomorrow, we could walk through stg together then? 17:39:00 nirik: I am free after 3PM today 17:39:12 threebean: tomorrow sounds awesome actually 17:39:20 superb! :) 17:39:32 yeah i'm using stg koji atm 17:39:45 mboddu so stage upgrade tomorrow? prod monday? 17:40:01 katecarcia: yes 17:40:09 awesomesauce! 17:40:24 nirik: so, when are you scheduling for the prod koji upgrade? 21 UTC Monday? 17:40:30 yes 17:40:41 nirik: Okay 17:41:21 #info nirik threebean mboddu will upgrade stg koji on Fri Oct 6th and prod on Mon Oct 9th at 21:00 UTC 17:42:19 +1 17:43:04 Okay, anybody has anything else to share? 17:44:11 sharkcz: Oh, I forgot to reply about your Firefox comment, thanks for the info on Firefox builds 17:44:24 just to note final freeze is coming up fast. 17:44:36 if anyone has work items to get done before then, they basically have to be next week 17:45:21 oh, one thing... 17:45:21 nirik: 2 weeks seems a lot in this release cycle :D 17:45:45 threebean: whats the status on the bodhi containers stuff? is that the release bowlofeggs is testing now? or still to come later? 17:45:53 not quite. 17:46:00 the containers stuff was *just* for their CI testing iirc. 17:46:12 but he's cutting and deploying a release without modularity stuff today-ish. 17:46:41 and the modularity stuff (is passing CI now due to the containers work) .. we're going to start the release process for that on Monday, last I checked. 17:47:04 ok, is the idea to get that iin next week? or as soon as it's ready? 17:47:09 * threebean nods 17:47:13 or wait until after final freeze? 17:47:19 next week - we think it's ready now. want to get it in before final. 17:47:30 of course we'll be cautious and back it out if we smell anything burning. 17:47:33 ok, cool. 17:48:06 bowlofeggs: is there any messaging planned about the batched updates? we might want to do a devel-announce and some blog posts or something. 17:48:23 thats the last thing I had, promise. ;) 17:48:34 :) 17:48:36 nirik: hehe :) 17:48:38 nirik: no real progress on running bodhi in containers 17:48:57 nirik: but i started running bodhi's unit tests in containers, which i guess is "slightly" progress 17:49:18 nirik: yes i am planning to write the devel list - i can do a blog post on my planet blog too 17:49:43 great. I think devel-announce might be good (some maintainers possibly just read that and avoid devel) 17:50:23 and yeah, i'm still planning to release the modularity thing next week 17:50:30 cool, good point 17:50:57 the modularity release will only have the modularity patch, to reverting will be real easy 17:51:00 (that's on purpose :)) 17:51:05 +1 17:51:06 no migrations 17:52:49 threebean, bowlofeggs : so, bodhi supporting containers will be rolled out today and support for modularity next week? Is that right? 17:53:17 wait, wha? 17:53:26 the container stuff got done? 17:53:33 (if so, that's awesome!) 17:53:51 I don't think that's quite right mboddu. bowlofeggs, can you clarify? 17:55:02 no no container stuff for bodhi 17:55:11 today is just bodhi-2.11.0 17:55:24 https://bodhi.stg.fedoraproject.org/docs/release_notes.html#id1 17:55:48 i just wanted to separate the modularity patch from the "other stuff" that's been done on bodhi 17:55:52 that's why there are two releases 17:56:12 the modular mashing thing is very hard to test, so i view it as higher risk 17:56:31 bowlofeggs: when you say modularity patch, does that mean bodhi supporting modules? 17:56:50 the only container related work that's been done on bodhi is to run its CI tests in containers, which doesn't really help us run bodhi in containers (and has nothing to do with shipping containers) 17:57:13 like it's literally just running bodhi's unit tests in containers - it's a workaround for my jenkins not having fedora hosts 17:57:24 mboddu: yes, specifically mashing them 17:57:25 bowlofeggs: Oh okay 17:58:36 bowlofeggs: So, bodhi can mash modules after the next week update then? 17:59:22 well, pungi them... but yeah 17:59:29 wait, run bodhi in containers or support containers release in bodhi? 17:59:43 nirik: yeah, bodhi calling pungi to mash modules 17:59:58 maxamillion: I think its just running bodhi in containers 18:00:09 * nirik thinks he started this confusion by typing container when he meant module eariler. 18:00:17 there's no container changes. 18:00:32 only some tests upstream running in containers. which has nothing to do with us. ;) 18:01:15 mboddu: oh ok, my mistake 18:01:36 we going to run bodhi in openshift? 18:01:47 nirik: ahhh, okay, and thats what confused me. "[13:45:45]  threebean: whats the status on the bodhi containers stuff?" I thought you are talking about bodhi support for containers 18:01:54 mboddu: yes, via pungi 18:01:59 mboddu: +1 18:02:05 yeah, sorry, I meant modules there, not sure why I mistyped. 18:02:39 nirik: words are hard yo 18:02:48 #info bodhi will support module mashing through pungi in the next week's update 18:02:57 ok so to simplify: there has been no effort towards any container related things for bodhi that this channel would be interested in ☺ 18:02:58 nirik, bowlofeggs : ^ is that right? 18:03:04 it's just running bodhi's unit tests, that's all 18:03:05 all the interesting word usements I structure. 18:03:16 nirik++ wordsmithery. 18:03:34 mboddu: yeah 18:03:37 mboddu: hopefully yes there will be an update next week that does that 18:03:54 bowlofeggs: Okay, thats all I need, no more confusion 18:04:03 Anything else? 18:04:31 Okay, we went over the time, so I will end the meeting now 18:04:37 Thanks everyone for joining 18:04:40 #endmeeting