14:02:36 <wmoreno> #startmeeting Ambassadors Latam 14:02:36 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Nov 3 14:02:36 2017 UTC. The chair is wmoreno. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:02:36 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:02:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'ambassadors_latam' 14:02:37 <zodbot> chinosoliard: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 14:03:00 <wmoreno> #chair chinosoliard 14:03:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: chinosoliard wmoreno 14:03:19 <chinosoliard> wmoreno, hola! 14:03:24 <wmoreno> #topic RollCall 14:03:28 <alexove> .fas alexove 14:03:29 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com> 14:03:32 * alexove = Peru 14:03:34 <wmoreno> Hola como vamos 14:03:34 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy 14:03:35 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com> 14:03:37 <danniel> .fas danniel 14:03:37 <chinosoliard> .fas chinosoliard 14:03:37 <zodbot> danniel: kuroneko02 'Danniel Justavino' <justavinod@hotmail.com> - danniel 'Daniel Lara Souza' <daniellarasouza@yahoo.com.br> - danni 'danniele' <jordon@openmailbox.org> - hdanniel 'Hector Paz' <hdanniel@gmail.com> 14:03:40 <zodbot> chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' <me@chinosoliard.com> 14:03:42 <alyaj2a> .fas alyaj2a 14:03:43 <zodbot> alyaj2a: alyaj2a 'Aly Yuliza Machaca Mamani' <alyaj2a@gmail.com> 14:03:43 * chinosoliard from Argentina 14:03:51 * x3mboy Chile - Venezuela 14:03:51 <chinosoliard> alyaj2a, o/ 14:03:53 <wmoreno> .fas williamjmorenor 14:03:54 <zodbot> wmoreno: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com> 14:03:54 * alyaj2a from Peru 14:04:06 <x3mboy> alyaj2a, o/ 14:04:10 <x3mboy> wmoreno, o/ 14:04:12 <porfiriopaiz> .fas porfiriopaiz 14:04:13 * porfiriopaiz from Managua in Nicaragua. 14:04:13 <zodbot> porfiriopaiz: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco' <porfiriopaiz@gmail.com> 14:04:13 <chinosoliard> alyaj2a, también feriado en Puno? :-P 14:04:16 <x3mboy> porfiriopaiz, o/ 14:04:19 <alyaj2a> o/ amigos 14:04:20 * wmoreno Nicaragua 14:04:24 <itamarjp> .hello2 14:04:24 <porfiriopaiz> \o x3mboy 14:04:25 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br> 14:04:27 <chinosoliard> que lindo ver a tantos :) 14:04:29 <x3mboy> itamarjp, o/ 14:04:32 * bt0 from Mexico, bt0 is a non-voting attendee 14:04:37 <x3mboy> bt0, o/ 14:04:47 <wmoreno> #chair itamarjp x3mboy 14:04:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: chinosoliard itamarjp wmoreno x3mboy 14:04:51 <bt0> o/ x3mboy 14:06:12 <chinosoliard> so, the only open issue is #433 (F27 Release parties) 14:06:20 <chinosoliard> wmoreno, it's yours 14:06:22 <wmoreno> any one else? 14:06:38 <wmoreno> there are two more 14:06:42 <wmoreno> but don hace the 14:06:48 <x3mboy> I have one 14:06:50 <wmoreno> meeting tag 14:06:50 <chinosoliard> s/open/"meeting tagged"/g 14:07:08 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, ok. 14:07:31 <x3mboy> Looking for it 14:07:33 <wmoreno> #topic F27 Release Parties 14:07:36 <yosef7_> .fas josereyesjdi 14:07:36 <zodbot> yosef7_: josereyesjdi 'Jose A. Reyes H.' <josereyes.jdi@gmail.com> 14:07:45 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/423 14:07:53 * chinosoliard back in 4 minutes 14:08:03 <Richzendy> .fas Richzendy 14:08:03 <zodbot> Richzendy: richzendy 'Edwind Richzendy Contreras Soto' <richzendy@gmail.com> 14:08:20 <x3mboy> I have to prepare a plan for this, but we have no time to run 3 sessions this year 14:08:41 <x3mboy> Considering is already november and we will have RPs this month 14:09:05 <x3mboy> So, I'm going to put this on hold to start the first session on January 14:09:22 <wmoreno> ok 14:09:23 <x3mboy> And I will have everything already prepared 14:09:41 <wmoreno> so william be nice to hace more releases parties un latam 14:09:48 <x3mboy> The topics, the meeting time and the accounts in BlueJeans that we should use 14:10:35 <wmoreno> ok 14:10:47 <wmoreno> anyone have read the ticket? 14:11:10 <x3mboy> About RPs? 14:11:18 <wmoreno> yes 14:11:21 <x3mboy> #433 14:11:31 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/433 14:11:34 <wmoreno> about RP 14:11:45 <wmoreno> thank for the link 14:11:57 <x3mboy> I'm interested in organize one in Chile 14:12:15 <williamjmorenor> x3mboy++ 14:12:16 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: Karma for x3mboy changed to 20 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:12:20 <alexove> ! 14:12:21 <williamjmorenor> cool 14:12:36 <williamjmorenor> please go ahead alexove 14:12:43 <alexove> Is there any page to write the planned RPs in Latam or world? 14:12:57 <alexove> I refer a page in the wiki 14:13:15 <alexove> if this page not exist we will create one to manage these events 14:13:18 <alexove> EOF 14:13:20 <williamjmorenor> yes 14:13:29 <alexove> link? 14:13:32 <williamjmorenor> it is on the ticket 14:14:02 <williamjmorenor> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F27_release_events 14:14:15 <x3mboy> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party 14:14:22 <williamjmorenor> #info please add your event in the wiki page 14:14:22 * alexove just saw it 14:14:52 <williamjmorenor> #info x3mboy is planning a release party for Chile 14:14:58 <x3mboy> Also, since we have a wiki structure now, we should set it there too 14:15:28 <williamjmorenor> #info please use the proposed wiki structure for latam events 14:15:55 <williamjmorenor> x3mboy can you please share the link yo the template? 14:16:08 <x3mboy> I'm looking for it 14:16:14 <x3mboy> But for some reason, I can't find it 14:16:17 <x3mboy> :S 14:16:20 <x3mboy> That's weird 14:16:56 <williamjmorenor> so I want to aks about put together a "Release Party Event Box" 14:17:01 <williamjmorenor> I mean 14:17:24 <williamjmorenor> what do we need to run a sucefull release party? 14:17:34 <williamjmorenor> stickers? 14:17:41 <x3mboy> People interested with some time to spend on it 14:17:53 <williamjmorenor> yes 14:18:25 <williamjmorenor> but we need to take of it if we want to do swag for release parties 14:18:50 <x3mboy> Ok, For me, a Release Party need information about the Release itself 14:18:53 <williamjmorenor> any way if there is not any comment for the moment 14:19:03 <x3mboy> So Stickers, cheatcube are always nice 14:19:16 <williamjmorenor> +1 14:19:23 <alexove> When F27 will release? 14:19:38 <itamarjp> my recommendation is to ask only for stickers, 14:19:45 <williamjmorenor> in the middle of November 14:19:54 <x3mboy> T-Shirts are a big "NO!" in the budget, or at least last discussions I heard finish in no 14:20:00 <x3mboy> itamarjp, any particular reason? 14:20:34 <williamjmorenor> land yards? 14:20:35 <alexove> ! 14:20:50 <williamjmorenor> alexove please go ahead 14:20:54 <x3mboy> Please, don't order CD/DVD's again, that is a frustatin discussion 14:21:04 <alexove> first of all, please look to these pages 14:21:07 <itamarjp> I think Brian will produce it, producing only stickers will make easier for him to attend everyone. 14:21:07 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_latam 14:21:07 <x3mboy> s/frustatin/frustating 14:21:17 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Swags 14:21:23 <williamjmorenor> #info williamjmorenor will organice a release party in Nicaragua 14:21:44 <williamjmorenor> ok 14:21:54 <alexove> second, as Itamarjp says, is easier produce stickers and ship it by stickermule 14:22:13 <alexove> I received some stickers for FWD-Cusco and Yulytas too in Lima 14:22:29 <williamjmorenor> itamarjp do you want to talk about mindsare? 14:22:40 * chinosoliard is back and reading 14:22:44 * bt0 taking notes 14:22:49 <alexove> by now we can only get stickers faster 14:22:52 <alexove> EOF 14:23:00 <x3mboy> ! 14:23:13 <williamjmorenor> x3mboy please go ahead 14:23:58 <x3mboy> F27 is way to close, so agreed for only stickers for this release, and just after RPs are done, start to work in the "Release Party Event Box" with more time 14:24:07 <x3mboy> Also, I want to talk abouyt mindshare 14:24:08 <x3mboy> EOF 14:24:20 <williamjmorenor> OK please vote 14:24:48 <williamjmorenor> do we want for stickers only for the F27 RP? 14:24:50 <itamarjp> +1 to x3mboy proposal 14:24:54 <williamjmorenor> +1 for me 14:24:57 <alexove> +1 14:24:59 <x3mboy> +1 for me 14:25:16 <williamjmorenor> please vote to save the record and move to mindsahre there 14:25:38 <chinosoliard> +1 14:26:01 <alyaj2a> +1 14:26:26 <williamjmorenor> #agree Latam to ask for stickers only for the F27 cicle, will work for a RP Event Box proposal for F28 14:26:28 <yosef7_> Ok, +1 14:26:29 <porfiriopaiz> +1 stickers only, Fedora RP Box to be discussed in the coming meetings. 14:27:18 <x3mboy> ! 14:27:22 <williamjmorenor> #info +1(8) 14:27:25 <x3mboy> Before going to Mindshare 14:27:40 <williamjmorenor> please go ahead x3mboy 14:27:55 <x3mboy> Please a quick question, RPs is global, Should we use the global structure to these in the wiki? 14:28:01 <x3mboy> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam 14:28:09 <x3mboy> Or should we do it per country? 14:28:24 <x3mboy> s/is/are 14:28:38 <williamjmorenor> yes we must use the global wiki entry 14:28:44 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, ! 14:28:59 <chinosoliard> we can link events 14:29:05 <chinosoliard> EOM 14:29:38 <williamjmorenor> moving away 14:29:38 <itamarjp> #topic #435 FAmSCo is becoming Mindshare 14:29:43 <chinosoliard> sorry... we *must* link events! because we were thinking in share what we do, so, we can have 2 links to the same page 14:29:49 <itamarjp> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/435 14:30:14 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, got it 14:30:24 * williamjmorenor Reading 14:30:29 <itamarjp> x3mboy, Can you explain about Mindshare ? 14:31:08 <x3mboy> itamarjp, sure 14:31:23 <x3mboy> Mindshare is a new initiative to "replace" FAmSCo 14:31:32 <x3mboy> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare 14:32:12 <x3mboy> The idea behind mindshare is to unify the work of the non-FEScO teams 14:32:37 <x3mboy> Here will work together: Ambassadors, Marketing, Design, Web And Docs 14:32:57 <x3mboy> Also there will be 2 extra community elected seats 14:33:05 <williamjmorenor> we *need* at less a latam representative in mindshare 14:33:47 <x3mboy> A quick example of the work of Mindhare was the bt0 help with the Talking Points email to ambassadors 14:33:57 <bt0> :P 14:34:10 <itamarjp> The only fixed position is FCAIC (Brian at this moment) all others are appointed / elected 14:34:15 <chinosoliard> bt0++ 14:34:22 <x3mboy> With that email we all saw that work that should be done for us as ambassadors wasn't being taking into account 14:34:33 <x3mboy> I have a seat, as representative of Marketing 14:34:47 <williamjmorenor> cool 14:34:48 <bt0> \o/ 14:35:16 <x3mboy> But I will be playing "devil's advocate" because I work with Almost all the teams presented: Marketing, Ambassadors, Commops and Docs 14:35:54 <x3mboy> So, this is the moment to join the Global Ambassadors and work to get 2 great representatives in Mindshare 14:36:07 <itamarjp> The Marketing group agreed with Eduard Lucena name and appointed him ( so no need a election in the voting app ) 14:37:00 <x3mboy> For the outreach teams, only Ambassadors will need the voting app, becuase are splitted in regions, the other teams will do meeting voting 14:37:08 <x3mboy> EOF 14:37:10 <itamarjp> It's not clear for ambassador group if we need an election or not 14:37:50 <itamarjp> probably only if we have more candidates than seats and no agreement 14:38:30 <x3mboy> itamarjp, cool! I wasn't in the last FAmSCo meeting. But it makes sense 14:39:12 <itamarjp> anyone here Interested ? 14:39:42 <chinosoliard> I'm completely without time 14:39:58 <porfiriopaiz> < x3mboy> Here will work together: Ambassadors, Marketing, Design, Web And Docs. < Loved this. 14:40:17 <williamjmorenor> I think send a mail to the ML to ask 14:40:28 <alexove> williamjmorenor++ 14:40:28 <zodbot> alexove: Karma for williamjmorenor changed to 3 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 14:40:34 <williamjmorenor> very few people is on the meeting 14:41:33 <itamarjp> the deadline to raise the hand is next meeting, I will only add my name if no other one are interested. 14:41:49 <alexove> itamarjp++ 14:42:06 <williamjmorenor> any other comment? 14:42:31 <itamarjp> alexove, Can we add your name ? 14:43:23 <alexove> Yes please 14:43:41 <alexove> I will be a litle free these months and can help :-) 14:43:45 <alexove> little 14:44:29 <williamjmorenor> #info alexove and itamarjp will participate in mind share elections 14:44:58 <itamarjp> only alexove at this moment, lets see if there's another candidate until next meeting. 14:46:49 <williamjmorenor> +1 14:47:05 <williamjmorenor> can we move to open floor? 14:47:17 <x3mboy> Please, take into account that mindshare will work as FAmSCo 14:47:22 <x3mboy> Per Release 14:47:31 <porfiriopaiz> I will. 14:47:37 <x3mboy> So, be sure that you will be available at least 6 month 14:47:45 <x3mboy> s/month/months 14:48:42 <x3mboy> Open Floor? 14:49:14 <williamjmorenor> #topic Open Floor 14:49:19 <yosef7_> Yes 14:49:21 <chinosoliard> ! 14:49:30 <chinosoliard> I want to explain a situation here in .ar 14:49:31 <porfiriopaiz> ! 14:49:43 <williamjmorenor> please go ahead chinosoliard 14:49:44 <chinosoliard> (for alexove, that was motivating the SWAG production) 14:50:12 <williamjmorenor> please to chinosoliard EOF porfiriopaiz 14:50:42 <porfiriopaiz> may I? 14:50:50 * chinosoliard writing 14:51:01 <porfiriopaiz> Keep going then, :) 14:51:10 <chinosoliard> If I recieve stickers, t-shirts, empty papers, or whatever... I've to pay 50% of the cost, plus 10U$S shipping concept. 14:51:48 <yosef7_> Wao 14:51:55 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, whatever the overall price of the items? 14:52:05 <chinosoliard> Aaaaanddddd... I must have an invoice (with my name), and there are some other problems 14:52:10 <itamarjp> #topic Open Floor 14:52:20 <alexove> ! 14:52:45 <williamjmorenor> #undo 14:52:56 <chinosoliard> so... alexove, I didn't complete the spreadsheet because of that. I'm sorry, I forgot to told you 14:53:04 <williamjmorenor> we are already in open floor 14:53:23 <chinosoliard> EOM 14:53:24 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, can you think in a solution that works for you? 14:53:41 <williamjmorenor> porfiriopaiz please go ahead 14:53:47 <itamarjp> chinosoliard, probably producing locally 14:53:49 <alexove> chinosoliard: https://www.stickermule.com/support/international-shipping-cost 14:54:13 <itamarjp> alexove told 200 stickers = 300 grams. 14:54:30 <porfiriopaiz> I want to know what is the right procedure to get help from a mentor. 14:54:36 <alexove> chinosoliard: For stickers the company (stickermule) will pay and shipping via UPS or DHL 14:54:37 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, nothing, The only solution is to "simulate a purchase", but it's completely ilegal, and it can cause problem 14:54:58 <porfiriopaiz> Next year I will be more active on organizing events to promote Fedora on the college. 14:55:01 <alexove> porfiriopaiz: send me an email, I'm ambassadors mentors 14:55:01 <x3mboy> alexove, that's how much stickermule costs, that doesn't take into account taxes or per country problems 14:55:18 <porfiriopaiz> I think becoming a mentor is the next step for me. 14:55:37 <porfiriopaiz> alexove: Good to know, thanks! 14:55:45 <chinosoliard> itamarjp, and everyone... I've produced *a lot* of stickers for this year, and I'm the only active contributor in .ar, so, it's not a problem right now. I've stickers to share, for 2 years 14:56:29 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, cool! 14:56:31 <alexove> chinosoliard++ 14:56:34 <x3mboy> chinosoliard++ 14:56:38 <alexove> asoliard++ 14:56:50 <bt0> chinosoliard++ 14:56:52 <chinosoliard> zodbot is out! 14:56:58 <chinosoliard> EOM (sorry) 14:57:12 <williamjmorenor> ok 14:57:28 <williamjmorenor> so porfiriopaiz is asking about to become a mentor 14:57:42 <williamjmorenor> .fasinfo porfiriopaiz 14:57:43 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: User: porfiriopaiz, Name: Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco, email: porfiriopaiz@gmail.com, Creation: 2013-02-09, IRC Nick: porfiriopaiz, Timezone: America/Managua, Locale: es, GPG key ID: 2ABCCCE2, Status: active 14:57:46 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: Approved Groups: fedora-ni cla_fpca cla_done 14:57:56 <alexove> williamjmorenor: I already tell him to write me an email 14:58:05 <chinosoliard> becoming a mentor is not posible right now 14:58:21 <chinosoliard> we just select 2 mentors about 3 month ago... 14:58:44 <williamjmorenor> porfiriopaiz what do you want? you are not in ambassador group 14:58:55 <williamjmorenor> so first step is to become one 14:59:16 <porfiriopaiz> williamjmorenor: That is why I'm asking for a mentor :) 14:59:31 <williamjmorenor> oh 14:59:32 <williamjmorenor> ok 14:59:57 <x3mboy> He is asking for a mentor, not to be a mentor 14:59:59 <williamjmorenor> #info alexove to become the mentor of porfiriopaiz 15:00:04 <x3mboy> Ok, I also understood the other way 15:00:09 <alexove> porfiriopaiz, send me an email, I will start mentoring process for 2 people the next week 15:00:16 <x3mboy> alexove++ 15:00:27 <williamjmorenor> we are find here? 15:00:30 <bt0> alexove++ sensei 15:00:30 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for alexove changed to 8 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:00:42 <yosef7_> alexove++ 15:00:44 <porfiriopaiz> I think becoming a mentor is the next step for me. < My bad, i meant s/mentor/ambassador/g 15:00:48 <alexove> bt0++ 15:00:48 <zodbot> alexove: Karma for bt0dotninja changed to 13 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:00:59 <alexove> bt0dotninja++ 15:01:23 <williamjmorenor> alexove++ 15:01:23 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: Karma for alexove changed to 9 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:01:29 <chinosoliard> alexove++ 15:01:30 <williamjmorenor> porfiriopaiz++ 15:01:31 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: Karma for porfiriopaiz changed to 1 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:01:33 <chinosoliard> williamjmorenor++ 15:01:35 <chinosoliard> porfiriopaiz++ 15:01:39 <zodbot> chinosoliard: Karma for porfiriopaiz changed to 2 (for the f26 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:01:41 <chinosoliard> bt0++ 15:01:48 <chinosoliard> ok... should we close? 15:01:52 <bt0> ! 15:01:52 <yosef7_> .fas josereyesjdi 15:01:54 <zodbot> yosef7_: josereyesjdi 'Jose A. Reyes H.' <josereyes.jdi@gmail.com> 15:01:58 <alexove> guys I will go another meeting, see you in the next fedora meeting :-) 15:02:10 <williamjmorenor> please go ahead bt0 15:02:11 <bt0> In the last meeting we agreed to ask for a events official page, this is the marketing's ticket 15:02:26 <yosef7_> chinosoliard++ 15:02:29 <bt0> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/263 15:02:34 <bt0> EOM 15:02:38 <williamjmorenor> #chair bt0 15:02:55 <bt0> only this :) 15:02:55 <williamjmorenor> thanks 15:03:11 <chinosoliard> bt0, great! 15:03:27 <williamjmorenor> any one else? 15:03:29 * williamjmorenor ! 15:03:36 <williamjmorenor> I am on the cellphone 15:03:48 <chinosoliard> go ahead, I think there's no one left here 15:04:02 <williamjmorenor> so please someone take care to send the logs to the mailing list 15:04:06 <williamjmorenor> EOF 15:04:09 <williamjmorenor> :) 15:05:40 <bt0> ok 15:05:44 <williamjmorenor> closing the meeting 15:05:48 <williamjmorenor> in 15:05:51 <williamjmorenor> 5 15:05:53 <chinosoliard> williamjmorenor, they stay in mope 15:05:57 <chinosoliard> *mote 15:06:00 <williamjmorenor> 4 15:06:03 <x3mboy> williamjmorenor, Thanks for chairing 15:06:05 <williamjmorenor> 3 15:06:09 <williamjmorenor> 2 15:06:12 <williamjmorenor> 1 15:06:20 <williamjmorenor> #endmeeting 15:06:23 <chinosoliard> thanks, williamjmorenor 15:06:33 <chinosoliard> see you in #fedora-latam, guys 15:06:56 <yosef7_> Thnks 15:07:15 <williamjmorenor> #endmeeting 15:07:27 <bt0> #endmeeting 15:07:31 <bt0> ummm 15:07:40 <williamjmorenor> it is not working or I forgot the command? 15:08:05 <williamjmorenor> zooboot is gone 15:08:07 <williamjmorenor> ;) 15:08:28 <x3mboy> #endmeeting