14:02:36 <wmoreno> #startmeeting Ambassadors Latam
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14:03:00 <wmoreno> #chair chinosoliard
14:03:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: chinosoliard wmoreno
14:03:19 <chinosoliard> wmoreno, hola!
14:03:24 <wmoreno> #topic RollCall
14:03:28 <alexove> .fas alexove
14:03:29 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
14:03:32 * alexove = Peru
14:03:34 <wmoreno> Hola como vamos
14:03:34 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy
14:03:35 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
14:03:37 <danniel> .fas danniel
14:03:37 <chinosoliard> .fas chinosoliard
14:03:37 <zodbot> danniel: kuroneko02 'Danniel Justavino' <justavinod@hotmail.com> - danniel 'Daniel Lara Souza' <daniellarasouza@yahoo.com.br> - danni 'danniele' <jordon@openmailbox.org> - hdanniel 'Hector Paz' <hdanniel@gmail.com>
14:03:40 <zodbot> chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' <me@chinosoliard.com>
14:03:42 <alyaj2a> .fas alyaj2a
14:03:43 <zodbot> alyaj2a: alyaj2a 'Aly Yuliza Machaca Mamani' <alyaj2a@gmail.com>
14:03:43 * chinosoliard from Argentina
14:03:51 * x3mboy Chile - Venezuela
14:03:51 <chinosoliard> alyaj2a, o/
14:03:53 <wmoreno> .fas  williamjmorenor
14:03:54 <zodbot> wmoreno: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com>
14:03:54 * alyaj2a from Peru
14:04:06 <x3mboy> alyaj2a, o/
14:04:10 <x3mboy> wmoreno, o/
14:04:12 <porfiriopaiz> .fas porfiriopaiz
14:04:13 * porfiriopaiz from Managua in Nicaragua.
14:04:13 <zodbot> porfiriopaiz: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco' <porfiriopaiz@gmail.com>
14:04:13 <chinosoliard> alyaj2a, también feriado en Puno? :-P
14:04:16 <x3mboy> porfiriopaiz, o/
14:04:19 <alyaj2a> o/ amigos
14:04:20 * wmoreno Nicaragua
14:04:24 <itamarjp> .hello2
14:04:24 <porfiriopaiz> \o x3mboy
14:04:25 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
14:04:27 <chinosoliard> que lindo ver a tantos :)
14:04:29 <x3mboy> itamarjp, o/
14:04:32 * bt0 from Mexico, bt0 is a non-voting attendee
14:04:37 <x3mboy> bt0, o/
14:04:47 <wmoreno> #chair itamarjp x3mboy
14:04:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: chinosoliard itamarjp wmoreno x3mboy
14:04:51 <bt0> o/ x3mboy
14:06:12 <chinosoliard> so, the only open issue is #433 (F27 Release parties)
14:06:20 <chinosoliard> wmoreno, it's yours
14:06:22 <wmoreno> any one else?
14:06:38 <wmoreno> there are two more
14:06:42 <wmoreno> but don hace the
14:06:48 <x3mboy> I have one
14:06:50 <wmoreno> meeting tag
14:06:50 <chinosoliard> s/open/"meeting tagged"/g
14:07:08 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, ok.
14:07:31 <x3mboy> Looking for it
14:07:33 <wmoreno> #topic F27 Release Parties
14:07:36 <yosef7_> .fas josereyesjdi
14:07:36 <zodbot> yosef7_: josereyesjdi 'Jose A. Reyes H.' <josereyes.jdi@gmail.com>
14:07:45 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/423
14:07:53 * chinosoliard back in 4 minutes
14:08:03 <Richzendy> .fas Richzendy
14:08:03 <zodbot> Richzendy: richzendy 'Edwind Richzendy Contreras Soto' <richzendy@gmail.com>
14:08:20 <x3mboy> I have to prepare a plan for this, but we have no time to run 3 sessions this year
14:08:41 <x3mboy> Considering is already november and we will have RPs this month
14:09:05 <x3mboy> So, I'm going to put this on hold to start the first session on January
14:09:22 <wmoreno> ok
14:09:23 <x3mboy> And I will have everything already prepared
14:09:41 <wmoreno> so william be nice to hace more releases parties  un latam
14:09:48 <x3mboy> The topics, the meeting time and the accounts in BlueJeans that we should use
14:10:35 <wmoreno> ok
14:10:47 <wmoreno> anyone have read the ticket?
14:11:10 <x3mboy> About RPs?
14:11:18 <wmoreno> yes
14:11:21 <x3mboy> #433
14:11:31 <x3mboy> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/433
14:11:34 <wmoreno> about RP
14:11:45 <wmoreno> thank for the link
14:11:57 <x3mboy> I'm interested in organize one in Chile
14:12:15 <williamjmorenor> x3mboy++
14:12:16 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: Karma for x3mboy changed to 20 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:12:20 <alexove> !
14:12:21 <williamjmorenor> cool
14:12:36 <williamjmorenor> please go ahead alexove
14:12:43 <alexove> Is there any page to write the planned RPs in Latam or world?
14:12:57 <alexove> I refer a page in the wiki
14:13:15 <alexove> if this page not exist we will create one to manage these events
14:13:18 <alexove> EOF
14:13:20 <williamjmorenor> yes
14:13:29 <alexove> link?
14:13:32 <williamjmorenor> it is on the ticket
14:14:02 <williamjmorenor> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F27_release_events
14:14:15 <x3mboy> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party
14:14:22 <williamjmorenor> #info please add your event in the wiki page
14:14:22 * alexove just saw it
14:14:52 <williamjmorenor> #info x3mboy is planning a release party for Chile
14:14:58 <x3mboy> Also, since we have a wiki structure now, we should set it there too
14:15:28 <williamjmorenor> #info please use the proposed wiki structure for latam events
14:15:55 <williamjmorenor> x3mboy can you please share the link yo the template?
14:16:08 <x3mboy> I'm looking for it
14:16:14 <x3mboy> But for some reason, I can't find it
14:16:17 <x3mboy> :S
14:16:20 <x3mboy> That's weird
14:16:56 <williamjmorenor> so I want to aks about put together a "Release Party Event Box"
14:17:01 <williamjmorenor> I mean
14:17:24 <williamjmorenor> what do we need to run a sucefull release party?
14:17:34 <williamjmorenor> stickers?
14:17:41 <x3mboy> People interested with some time to spend on it
14:17:53 <williamjmorenor> yes
14:18:25 <williamjmorenor> but we need to take of it if we want to do swag for release parties
14:18:50 <x3mboy> Ok, For me, a Release Party need information about the Release itself
14:18:53 <williamjmorenor> any way if there is not any comment for the moment
14:19:03 <x3mboy> So Stickers, cheatcube are always nice
14:19:16 <williamjmorenor> +1
14:19:23 <alexove> When F27 will release?
14:19:38 <itamarjp> my recommendation is to ask only for stickers,
14:19:45 <williamjmorenor> in the middle of November
14:19:54 <x3mboy> T-Shirts are a big "NO!" in the budget, or at least last discussions I heard finish in no
14:20:00 <x3mboy> itamarjp, any particular reason?
14:20:34 <williamjmorenor> land yards?
14:20:35 <alexove> !
14:20:50 <williamjmorenor> alexove please go ahead
14:20:54 <x3mboy> Please, don't order CD/DVD's again, that is a frustatin discussion
14:21:04 <alexove> first of all, please look to these pages
14:21:07 <itamarjp> I think Brian will produce it, producing only stickers will make easier for him to attend everyone.
14:21:07 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_latam
14:21:07 <x3mboy> s/frustatin/frustating
14:21:17 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Swags
14:21:23 <williamjmorenor> #info williamjmorenor will organice a release party in Nicaragua
14:21:44 <williamjmorenor> ok
14:21:54 <alexove> second, as Itamarjp says, is easier produce stickers and ship it by stickermule
14:22:13 <alexove> I received some stickers for FWD-Cusco and Yulytas too in Lima
14:22:29 <williamjmorenor> itamarjp do you want to talk about mindsare?
14:22:40 * chinosoliard is back and reading
14:22:44 * bt0 taking notes
14:22:49 <alexove> by now we can only get stickers faster
14:22:52 <alexove> EOF
14:23:00 <x3mboy> !
14:23:13 <williamjmorenor> x3mboy please go ahead
14:23:58 <x3mboy> F27 is way to close, so agreed for only stickers for this release, and just after RPs are done, start to work in the "Release Party Event Box" with more time
14:24:07 <x3mboy> Also, I want to talk abouyt mindshare
14:24:08 <x3mboy> EOF
14:24:20 <williamjmorenor> OK please vote
14:24:48 <williamjmorenor> do we want for stickers only for the F27 RP?
14:24:50 <itamarjp> +1 to x3mboy proposal
14:24:54 <williamjmorenor> +1 for me
14:24:57 <alexove> +1
14:24:59 <x3mboy> +1 for me
14:25:16 <williamjmorenor> please vote to save the record and move to mindsahre there
14:25:38 <chinosoliard> +1
14:26:01 <alyaj2a> +1
14:26:26 <williamjmorenor> #agree Latam to ask for stickers only for the F27 cicle, will work for a RP Event Box proposal for F28
14:26:28 <yosef7_> Ok, +1
14:26:29 <porfiriopaiz> +1 stickers only, Fedora RP Box to be discussed in the coming meetings.
14:27:18 <x3mboy> !
14:27:22 <williamjmorenor> #info +1(8)
14:27:25 <x3mboy> Before going to Mindshare
14:27:40 <williamjmorenor> please go ahead x3mboy
14:27:55 <x3mboy> Please a quick question, RPs is global, Should we use the global structure to these in the wiki?
14:28:01 <x3mboy> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam
14:28:09 <x3mboy> Or should we do it per country?
14:28:24 <x3mboy> s/is/are
14:28:38 <williamjmorenor> yes we must use the global wiki entry
14:28:44 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, !
14:28:59 <chinosoliard> we can link events
14:29:05 <chinosoliard> EOM
14:29:38 <williamjmorenor> moving away
14:29:38 <itamarjp> #topic #435 FAmSCo is becoming Mindshare
14:29:43 <chinosoliard> sorry... we *must* link events! because we were thinking in share what we do, so, we can have 2 links to the same page
14:29:49 <itamarjp> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/435
14:30:14 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, got it
14:30:24 * williamjmorenor Reading
14:30:29 <itamarjp> x3mboy, Can you explain about Mindshare ?
14:31:08 <x3mboy> itamarjp, sure
14:31:23 <x3mboy> Mindshare is a new initiative to "replace" FAmSCo
14:31:32 <x3mboy> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare
14:32:12 <x3mboy> The idea behind mindshare is to unify the work of the non-FEScO teams
14:32:37 <x3mboy> Here will work together: Ambassadors, Marketing, Design, Web And Docs
14:32:57 <x3mboy> Also there will be 2 extra community elected seats
14:33:05 <williamjmorenor> we *need* at less a latam representative in mindshare
14:33:47 <x3mboy> A quick example of the work of Mindhare was the bt0 help with the Talking Points email to ambassadors
14:33:57 <bt0> :P
14:34:10 <itamarjp> The only fixed position is FCAIC (Brian at this moment) all others are appointed / elected
14:34:15 <chinosoliard> bt0++
14:34:22 <x3mboy> With that email we all saw that work that should be done for us as ambassadors wasn't being taking into account
14:34:33 <x3mboy> I have a seat, as representative of Marketing
14:34:47 <williamjmorenor> cool
14:34:48 <bt0> \o/
14:35:16 <x3mboy> But I will be playing "devil's advocate" because I work with Almost all the teams presented: Marketing, Ambassadors, Commops and Docs
14:35:54 <x3mboy> So, this is the moment to join the Global Ambassadors and work to get 2 great representatives in Mindshare
14:36:07 <itamarjp> The Marketing group agreed with Eduard Lucena name and appointed him ( so no need a election in the voting app )
14:37:00 <x3mboy> For the outreach teams, only Ambassadors will need the voting app, becuase are splitted in regions, the other teams will do meeting voting
14:37:08 <x3mboy> EOF
14:37:10 <itamarjp> It's not clear for ambassador group if we need an election or not
14:37:50 <itamarjp> probably only if we have more candidates than seats and no agreement
14:38:30 <x3mboy> itamarjp, cool! I wasn't in the last FAmSCo meeting. But it makes sense
14:39:12 <itamarjp> anyone here Interested ?
14:39:42 <chinosoliard> I'm completely without time
14:39:58 <porfiriopaiz> < x3mboy> Here will work together: Ambassadors, Marketing, Design, Web And Docs. < Loved this.
14:40:17 <williamjmorenor> I think send a mail to the ML to ask
14:40:28 <alexove> williamjmorenor++
14:40:28 <zodbot> alexove: Karma for williamjmorenor changed to 3 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:40:34 <williamjmorenor> very few people is on the meeting
14:41:33 <itamarjp> the deadline to raise the hand is next meeting, I will only add  my name if no other one are interested.
14:41:49 <alexove> itamarjp++
14:42:06 <williamjmorenor> any other comment?
14:42:31 <itamarjp> alexove, Can we add your name ?
14:43:23 <alexove> Yes please
14:43:41 <alexove> I will be a litle free these months and can help :-)
14:43:45 <alexove> little
14:44:29 <williamjmorenor> #info alexove and itamarjp will participate in mind share elections
14:44:58 <itamarjp> only alexove at this moment, lets see if there's another candidate until next meeting.
14:46:49 <williamjmorenor> +1
14:47:05 <williamjmorenor> can we move to open floor?
14:47:17 <x3mboy> Please, take into account that mindshare will work as FAmSCo
14:47:22 <x3mboy> Per Release
14:47:31 <porfiriopaiz> I will.
14:47:37 <x3mboy> So, be sure that you will be available at least 6 month
14:47:45 <x3mboy> s/month/months
14:48:42 <x3mboy> Open Floor?
14:49:14 <williamjmorenor> #topic Open Floor
14:49:19 <yosef7_> Yes
14:49:21 <chinosoliard> !
14:49:30 <chinosoliard> I want to explain a situation here in .ar
14:49:31 <porfiriopaiz> !
14:49:43 <williamjmorenor> please go ahead chinosoliard
14:49:44 <chinosoliard> (for alexove, that was motivating the SWAG production)
14:50:12 <williamjmorenor> please to chinosoliard EOF porfiriopaiz
14:50:42 <porfiriopaiz> may I?
14:50:50 * chinosoliard writing
14:51:01 <porfiriopaiz> Keep going then, :)
14:51:10 <chinosoliard> If I recieve stickers, t-shirts, empty papers, or whatever... I've to pay 50% of the cost, plus 10U$S shipping concept.
14:51:48 <yosef7_> Wao
14:51:55 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, whatever the overall price of the items?
14:52:05 <chinosoliard> Aaaaanddddd... I must have an invoice (with my name), and there are some other problems
14:52:10 <itamarjp> #topic Open Floor
14:52:20 <alexove> !
14:52:45 <williamjmorenor> #undo
14:52:56 <chinosoliard> so... alexove, I didn't complete the spreadsheet because of that. I'm sorry, I forgot to told you
14:53:04 <williamjmorenor> we are already in open floor
14:53:23 <chinosoliard> EOM
14:53:24 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, can you think in a solution that works for you?
14:53:41 <williamjmorenor> porfiriopaiz please go ahead
14:53:47 <itamarjp> chinosoliard, probably producing locally
14:53:49 <alexove> chinosoliard: https://www.stickermule.com/support/international-shipping-cost
14:54:13 <itamarjp> alexove told 200 stickers = 300 grams.
14:54:30 <porfiriopaiz> I want to know what is the right procedure to get help from a mentor.
14:54:36 <alexove> chinosoliard: For stickers the company (stickermule) will pay and shipping via UPS or DHL
14:54:37 <chinosoliard> x3mboy, nothing, The only solution is to "simulate a purchase", but it's completely ilegal, and it can cause problem
14:54:58 <porfiriopaiz> Next year I will be more active on organizing events to promote Fedora on the college.
14:55:01 <alexove> porfiriopaiz: send me an email, I'm ambassadors mentors
14:55:01 <x3mboy> alexove, that's how much stickermule costs, that doesn't take into account taxes or per country problems
14:55:18 <porfiriopaiz> I think becoming a mentor is the next step for me.
14:55:37 <porfiriopaiz> alexove: Good to know, thanks!
14:55:45 <chinosoliard> itamarjp, and everyone... I've produced *a lot* of stickers for this year, and I'm the only active contributor in .ar, so, it's not a problem right now. I've stickers to share, for 2 years
14:56:29 <x3mboy> chinosoliard, cool!
14:56:31 <alexove> chinosoliard++
14:56:34 <x3mboy> chinosoliard++
14:56:38 <alexove> asoliard++
14:56:50 <bt0> chinosoliard++
14:56:52 <chinosoliard> zodbot is out!
14:56:58 <chinosoliard> EOM (sorry)
14:57:12 <williamjmorenor> ok
14:57:28 <williamjmorenor> so porfiriopaiz is asking about to become a mentor
14:57:42 <williamjmorenor> .fasinfo porfiriopaiz
14:57:43 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: User: porfiriopaiz, Name: Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco, email: porfiriopaiz@gmail.com, Creation: 2013-02-09, IRC Nick: porfiriopaiz, Timezone: America/Managua, Locale: es, GPG key ID: 2ABCCCE2, Status: active
14:57:46 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: Approved Groups: fedora-ni cla_fpca cla_done
14:57:56 <alexove> williamjmorenor: I already tell him to write me an email
14:58:05 <chinosoliard> becoming a mentor is not posible right now
14:58:21 <chinosoliard> we just select 2 mentors about 3 month ago...
14:58:44 <williamjmorenor> porfiriopaiz what do you want? you are not in ambassador group
14:58:55 <williamjmorenor> so first step is to become one
14:59:16 <porfiriopaiz> williamjmorenor: That is why I'm asking for a mentor :)
14:59:31 <williamjmorenor> oh
14:59:32 <williamjmorenor> ok
14:59:57 <x3mboy> He is asking for a mentor, not to be a mentor
14:59:59 <williamjmorenor> #info alexove to become the mentor of porfiriopaiz
15:00:04 <x3mboy> Ok, I also understood the other way
15:00:09 <alexove> porfiriopaiz, send me an email, I will start mentoring process for 2 people the next week
15:00:16 <x3mboy> alexove++
15:00:27 <williamjmorenor> we are find here?
15:00:30 <bt0> alexove++ sensei
15:00:30 <zodbot> bt0: Karma for alexove changed to 8 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:00:42 <yosef7_> alexove++
15:00:44 <porfiriopaiz> I think becoming a mentor is the next step for me. < My bad, i meant s/mentor/ambassador/g
15:00:48 <alexove> bt0++
15:00:48 <zodbot> alexove: Karma for bt0dotninja changed to 13 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:00:59 <alexove> bt0dotninja++
15:01:23 <williamjmorenor> alexove++
15:01:23 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: Karma for alexove changed to 9 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:01:29 <chinosoliard> alexove++
15:01:30 <williamjmorenor> porfiriopaiz++
15:01:31 <zodbot> williamjmorenor: Karma for porfiriopaiz changed to 1 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:01:33 <chinosoliard> williamjmorenor++
15:01:35 <chinosoliard> porfiriopaiz++
15:01:39 <zodbot> chinosoliard: Karma for porfiriopaiz changed to 2 (for the f26 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:01:41 <chinosoliard> bt0++
15:01:48 <chinosoliard> ok... should we close?
15:01:52 <bt0> !
15:01:52 <yosef7_> .fas josereyesjdi
15:01:54 <zodbot> yosef7_: josereyesjdi 'Jose A. Reyes H.' <josereyes.jdi@gmail.com>
15:01:58 <alexove> guys I will go another meeting, see you in the next fedora meeting :-)
15:02:10 <williamjmorenor> please go ahead bt0
15:02:11 <bt0> In the last meeting we agreed to ask for a events official page, this is the marketing's ticket
15:02:26 <yosef7_> chinosoliard++
15:02:29 <bt0> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/263
15:02:34 <bt0> EOM
15:02:38 <williamjmorenor> #chair bt0
15:02:55 <bt0> only this :)
15:02:55 <williamjmorenor> thanks
15:03:11 <chinosoliard> bt0, great!
15:03:27 <williamjmorenor> any one else?
15:03:29 * williamjmorenor !
15:03:36 <williamjmorenor> I am on the cellphone
15:03:48 <chinosoliard> go ahead, I think there's no one left here
15:04:02 <williamjmorenor> so please someone take care to send the logs to the mailing list
15:04:06 <williamjmorenor> EOF
15:04:09 <williamjmorenor> :)
15:05:40 <bt0> ok
15:05:44 <williamjmorenor> closing the meeting
15:05:48 <williamjmorenor> in
15:05:51 <williamjmorenor> 5
15:05:53 <chinosoliard> williamjmorenor, they stay in mope
15:05:57 <chinosoliard> *mote
15:06:00 <williamjmorenor> 4
15:06:03 <x3mboy> williamjmorenor, Thanks for chairing
15:06:05 <williamjmorenor> 3
15:06:09 <williamjmorenor> 2
15:06:12 <williamjmorenor> 1
15:06:20 <williamjmorenor> #endmeeting
15:06:23 <chinosoliard> thanks, williamjmorenor
15:06:33 <chinosoliard> see you in #fedora-latam, guys
15:06:56 <yosef7_> Thnks
15:07:15 <williamjmorenor> #endmeeting
15:07:27 <bt0> #endmeeting
15:07:31 <bt0> ummm
15:07:40 <williamjmorenor> it is not working or I forgot the command?
15:08:05 <williamjmorenor> zooboot is gone
15:08:07 <williamjmorenor> ;)
15:08:28 <x3mboy> #endmeeting