14:00:04 #startmeeting Fedora Ambassadors Latam 14:00:05 Meeting started Fri Nov 10 14:00:04 2017 UTC. The chair is williamjmorenor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:05 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:05 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_ambassadors_latam' 14:00:05 hi guys :) 14:00:20 good morning 14:00:36 hello athos 14:00:39 hey 14:00:40 :) 14:00:41 good morning 14:00:47 #chair athos 14:00:47 Current chairs: athos williamjmorenor 14:00:52 hello daniel 14:00:54 #meetingname fedora-latam 14:00:54 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-latam' 14:00:57 hi everyone. Please wait for me 4 minutes, I'm going to smoke! 14:01:03 hello2 14:01:10 .fas chinosoliard 14:01:11 chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' 14:01:14 * chinosoliard from Argentina 14:01:16 #topic Rollcall 14:01:23 .fas williamjmorenor 14:01:24 williamjmorenor: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' 14:01:40 #chair itamarjp 14:01:40 Current chairs: athos itamarjp williamjmorenor 14:01:50 .fas danniel 14:01:50 danniel: kuroneko02 'Danniel Justavino' - danniel 'Daniel Lara Souza' - danni 'danniele' - hdanniel 'Hector Paz' 14:02:04 ping potty 14:03:25 ! 14:03:28 * williamjmorenor looking at tickets in pagure 14:03:36 * bt0 here but I'm a non voting attendee 14:03:40 please a moment itamarjp 14:03:52 just some quick announces 14:04:13 #topic Announcements 14:04:29 #info F27 have been declared gold 14:05:06 #info Release date is 2017-Nov-14 14:05:32 #info Nov. 3 was the 14th anniversary of Fedora. 14:05:52 itamarpj please go ahead 14:06:18 #topic FAmSCo is becoming Mindshare 14:06:29 #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/435 14:06:37 * chinosoliard is here 14:06:45 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mindshare/Representatives 14:07:12 we probably will have an election, 2 candidates from LATAM and 2 others, and only 2 seats 14:07:21 #info On the ticket potty said it is interesed in join Mindshare team 14:08:13 yes, potty and Alex de Peru 14:08:45 do you want to go for mindshare itamarjp? 14:08:58 hello alexove 14:09:07 #chair alexove 14:09:07 Current chairs: alexove athos itamarjp williamjmorenor 14:09:10 .fas alexove 14:09:12 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 14:09:13 williamjmorenor, I would like to take a break, I will be happy if potty and alexove get the seat 14:09:15 * alexove = Peru 14:09:35 itamarjp++ 14:10:23 #info alexove from Pero wants to go for Mindshare too 14:10:55 ok if we have to candidates will nice to have at less one ambassadors from latam in the new group 14:11:37 some one have some comments of ew can go ahead to next topic? 14:12:04 we have a new ticket from athoscr 14:12:23 ? 14:12:26 ? 14:12:37 yes, we have 14:12:40 yes 14:12:46 shall we move to it? 14:12:53 no more inputs from mindshare? 14:13:02 moving away 14:13:08 ok 14:13:27 #topic Funding to attend Linux Developer Conference Brazil 14:13:28 #topic tickey 436 14:13:40 #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/436 14:13:49 #info Funding to attend Linux Developer Conference Brazil 14:13:50 sorry williamjmorenor :) 14:13:56 dont worry 14:14:15 So, there is this new event in Brazil 14:14:17 #info Budget is $96.42 14:14:28 and i fine with this ticket 14:14:29 it is a conference in Unicamp, for linux developers 14:14:46 the idea is to gather developers of low level components together 14:14:49 please go ahead athosrcis you want to share something more 14:14:57 like systemd, grup and the kernel itself 14:15:11 s/grup/grub/ 14:15:22 +1 14:15:27 It has a lot of potential of being /becoming a high level event 14:15:30 #info Event goal is to gather developers of low level components together 14:15:38 ! 14:15:48 I am asking for bus tickets, and event fees for me 14:15:52 and hotel for me and siqueira 14:16:12 who is siqueira ? 14:16:12 alexove please wait athosrc EOF 14:16:13 siqueira is a student at University of São Paulo I have been mentoring in my lab 14:16:27 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/Brazil/linuxdev-br 14:16:28 I have been showing him our new x86 sig 14:16:50 He is on his path to become a kernel developer 14:16:56 so I see a lot of potential there :) 14:16:56 #link http://linuxdev-br.net/ 14:17:16 EOF 14:17:23 potty, are there available money? 14:17:30 alexove please go ahead 14:17:51 Hi! 14:17:57 "#link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events/Latam/Brazil/linuxdev-br" <- athos++ 14:18:19 +1 for me 14:18:22 I'm +1000 with this! It's not very expensive 14:18:37 I like the event but I think we need ask to potty (our treasurer) if are there available money 14:18:48 agree 14:18:57 x3mboy, we are in #436 14:19:16 #action williamjmorenor to ask potty about Latam Budget 14:19:20 alexove, we haven't spent money :-/ 14:19:21 I think the ticket is cheap but it's better to ask before 14:19:46 maybe bexelbie knows the actual situation 14:19:47 chinosoliard: FISL and Latinoware are expensive events 14:19:51 .hello2 14:19:52 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 14:19:53 chinosoliard, o/ 14:19:57 Hi team 14:19:59 Sorry I'm late 14:20:02 :) 14:20:25 chinosoliard: if bex can talk us about the money we can ask him 14:20:28 EOF 14:20:36 I see 4 +1 here andthe event is less than $ 100 so I think there is no problem if we aproved it now 14:20:45 siqueira, welcome 14:20:55 +1 for the ticket 14:21:01 agree with williamjmorenor 14:21:09 thanks 14:21:17 +1 for this ticket 14:21:20 +1 14:21:38 #agree Ticket #436 is aproved 14:21:39 Was This event added to the fedocal? 14:22:08 #info Vote count is +1:6 , 0:0 -1:0 14:22:19 x3mboy, I don't know, but athos follow the wiki tree, and that's amazing :-) 14:22:44 chinosoliard, Yeah! 14:22:59 Thanks guys 14:23:13 I will add it to fedocal as soon as the meeting is done, x3mboy :) 14:23:31 athos, thanks! 14:23:51 cool 14:24:07 we have 8 more tickets open in the track 14:24:18 lets do a fast review over then please 14:24:19 williamjmorenor: go for the ones tagged as meeting 14:24:22 williamjmorenor, filter meeting tickets first 14:24:29 ok 14:24:43 https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issues?status=Open&tags=Meeting 14:25:01 next: #434 Peru Rumbo al GSoC 2018 14:25:08 #topic Ticket 434 14:25:24 #info Peru Rumbo al GSoC 2018 14:26:02 #info Budget is $200 for meals for two months 14:27:09 alexove yulytas is not this meeeting do you have any info? 14:27:25 No, I don't 14:27:28 ! 14:27:45 as far as i know the GSoC have its own budget from google 14:27:45 yulytas need to fix the wiki URL... I think she didn't read meeting logs :-/ 14:28:00 athos please go ahead 14:28:21 I requested yulytas to address some issues in the ticket. That was not done yet 14:28:55 Also, I believe there are some language issues going on :( Maybe we need some spanish speaking ambassador to guide her through the processes... 14:29:14 athos, what do you mean with "address some issues"? 14:29:43 she is asking for budget for meals 14:29:57 most of the time we do not vote for meals 14:30:00 other than that, she is the only one actively organizing events through the whole year, so, as long as we have the budget, I support her initiatives :) 14:30:18 chinosoliard: read the bold part of my last comment in the ticket 14:30:21 we make a axection for pizza counting it ask a snack 14:30:29 ^ 14:30:41 that's why I asked her to be more specific on her ticket 14:30:51 (this is the answer for chinosoliard question) 14:31:06 athos, thanks 14:31:18 so we are fine the current info or ask yulitas for more details? 14:31:25 williamjmorenor++ 14:31:30 +1 for ask for more details 14:31:32 I am +1 to wait for more details 14:31:43 +1 for ask for more details 14:31:46 I would propose: have a spanish speaking ambassador help her structure the ticket specifying what she actually wants 14:31:58 +1 to wait 14:32:03 #action williamjmoreno to ask yulitas for more info the ticket 14:32:11 then revisit this tiket in 1 week, or in the pagure issue if she needs it approved asap 14:32:22 #info we will review the ticket in the next week 14:32:37 and explain yulytas new changes for LATAM, because I think she is not online with that 14:33:10 I'll be back in 2 minutes (I think the coffee machine is burning into flames or something) 14:33:29 XD 14:33:32 I would like to remind that we should all help her getting things done! She does good work for both fedora and gnome there 14:33:52 #topic Ticket 433 14:34:04 #info F27 Release Parties 14:34:11 athos, yes! yulytas is working hard 14:34:24 #info in the last meeting we agree to ask only for stickers 14:35:11 #info please add your events to the wiki 14:35:14 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F27_release_events 14:35:34 Chile is working on details, but I think I'm going to organize 2 14:35:45 One for contributors and one for external people 14:35:51 #info please read this wiki page 14:35:55 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F27_Ambassadors_briefing 14:35:55 Following the excelent idea of Nicaragua 14:36:19 i have not aditional comments 14:36:32 Next ticket 14:36:50 that was the last one 14:36:56 right? 14:37:04 we some open tickets 14:37:11 we can do a quick review 14:37:19 and record the followup 14:37:34 #topic 432 14:37:47 #info bt0dotninja is looking for a mentor 14:37:56 Hey 14:38:00 alexove any update here? 14:38:00 bt0 had a mentor 14:38:08 So, the ticket can be close, no? 14:38:18 Yes, I created 3 tickets for mentoring 14:38:21 alexove Sensei, yeah 14:38:25 So, it can be closed 14:38:34 Yes, close the ticket please 14:38:35 many thanks :) 14:38:40 I will do it 14:38:43 #info bt0dotninja have a mentor 14:38:50 bt0, we have homework (marketing homework) to do 14:38:52 ;) 14:38:56 done 14:38:56 #action athos to close the ticket 14:39:09 i know :), downloading 14:39:10 alexove porfirio wrote you? 14:39:22 No, but I created a ticket for him 14:39:24 * chinosoliard think that we should order "works" here. williamjmorenor chairs the meeting and athos updates pagure :) 14:39:37 asoliard++ 14:39:42 chinosoliard++ 14:40:05 chinosoliard++ 14:40:10 * x3mboy thinks that we should storm cookies since 14 will be the start of the next release cycle 14:40:30 * chinosoliard next meeting we should solve that at the beginning. with an #info tag :) 14:40:36 #topic open tickets 14:40:40 ! 14:40:46 x3mboy++ here, have one! 14:40:46 I created 3 tickets: bt0ninja, porfiriopaiz and ecallata16 14:40:49 #423 14:40:49 _D 14:40:51 :D 14:41:11 * potty salute everyone 14:41:12 Yes, I have all the work organized in mind maps, I just need to translate that into wiki pages 14:41:17 potty, o/ 14:41:19 #info alexove have created 3 tickets: bt0ninja, porfiriopaiz and ecallata16 14:41:27 #chair potty 14:41:27 Current chairs: alexove athos itamarjp potty williamjmorenor 14:41:40 I want to start the 2nd week of January with the first session and do 1 per month 14:41:52 agree 14:42:05 wait, x3mboy 14:42:15 williamjmorenor, change topic to 423 14:42:29 williamjmorenor, #423 - Sessions to improve Ambassadors skills 14:42:45 #topic Ticket 423 14:42:56 Ok, I have all the work organized in mind maps, I just need to translate that into wiki pages 14:43:02 I want to start the 2nd week of January with the first session and do 1 per mont 14:43:07 #info Sessions to improve Ambassadors skills 14:43:27 #info x3mboy wants to start the 2nd week of January with the first session and do 1 per mont 14:43:34 cool 14:43:45 x3mboy, if you wait for me until 25/12, I'll give you 2 hands! I'm too buy with university 14:44:08 chinosoliard, when you want to jump in, please just let me know 14:44:16 We have the same idea with this :D 14:44:20 Also I want to create a ticket to FAmSCo/Mindshare to let them know we are working on this 14:44:24 x3mboy++ 14:44:47 Maybe other regions can be interseted in do something similar or even we can do a Global Ambassadors session 14:44:48 :D 14:44:50 EOM 14:45:01 ok 14:45:02 potty: are there remaining money for events?, Athos have a ticket and yulytas too 14:47:00 williamjmorenor! 14:47:22 I want to star a theme thinking in 2018 14:47:40 potty do you have any commnet? 14:48:25 We have 12 minutes left. Should we move to Open Floor? 14:48:54 Yes please 14:48:59 #topic Fudcon Latam 2018 14:49:10 something before open floor 14:49:21 #topic Fudcon Latam 2018 <- not again :'( 14:49:29 we did not have a Fudcon in Latam in latam 14:49:33 Not again :'( 14:49:49 do we want fudcon for 2018 or not? 14:50:08 I was talking with barto (bolivian ambassador) to organice FUDCon in La Paz 14:50:11 we want, but we can get people in a f****ng meeting 14:50:14 williamjmorenor, it's a really hot topic. Any country had FUDCons last year 14:50:28 I believe we should keep moving forward into unifying the community. 14:50:40 x3mboy and what about two miniFudcon? 14:50:48 There will be no more regional ambassadors in the future with mindshare 14:50:54 I believe we should keep moving forward into unifying the community. <- +100000000000000000 14:51:09 <williamjmorenor> x3mboy and what about two miniFudcon? <- clarify 14:51:14 And Council is very concerned about the budget, since it looks like the budget is only used if there is a written mandatory event 14:51:42 So, if you ask me: No, I don't want FUDCons 14:51:46 The goal should be: send more ppl to flock with former fudcon budget 14:51:53 I want people that want to works, really work 14:52:13 FUDCon became a "I will travel for free" conference, and we all know about that 14:52:13 athos, no, the goal is to accomplish local goals... 14:52:26 x3mboy: ^this 14:52:26 There are a lot of people that were only seen in FUDCons and then, nothing 14:52:27 x3mboy have a point 14:52:29 x3mboy, sure! that's true 14:52:39 but we need a local event to work in local task 14:52:52 williamjmorenor, local event is not a fudcon 14:52:56 I will prefer that people do events, local or international, or whatever and then ask for funding 14:53:11 chinosoliard: I mean, it is important to get more LATAM ppl working closer to fedora development 14:53:15 If FUDCon is a polemical topic please translate it to ML 14:53:21 presence in flock is important in that matter 14:53:21 if we can not have put together a big anual event and made 2 or 3 from brazil, central america and others countries 14:53:41 athos, sure! that's true 14:53:51 alexove, if we pass it to ML, there will be an endless discussion 14:54:05 We can just get the: no more mandatory budget for FUDCons and close the topic 14:54:08 Who says? :-) 14:54:28 itamarjp had an idea: mini fudcons: paraguay+uruguay+brazil+argentina, chile+peru+bolivia, panama+venezuela+colombia, etc... 14:54:36 bt0, mexico is out :-P 14:54:37 If anyone have the idea of doing an latam-wide event, just do it 14:54:47 minifudcon is a good idea 14:54:49 mexico is from NA 14:55:10 chinosoliard, Mexico was officially accepted as Latam, you troll! 14:55:15 #idea mini fudcons: paraguay+uruguay+brazil+argentina, chile+peru+bolivia, panama+venezuela+colombia, etc.. 14:55:18 xD 14:55:35 I think we can think in minifudcons for 2018 14:55:37 Ok, i have a quick topic for Open Floor 14:55:40 5 minutes 14:55:46 I do have a topic as well :) 14:55:50 #topic OpenFlorr 14:55:53 So, when you are ready dicussing this, please let me know 14:56:09 #undo 14:56:09 Removing item from minutes: 14:56:09 I will go after you, x3mboy 14:56:12 williamjmorenor, please, #undo and fix 14:56:18 #topic Open Floor 14:56:20 done 14:56:29 Marketing (Yeah!!! MY team!!!) create a page 14:56:30 williamjmorenor, yeah!!!! \m/ 14:56:31 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F27_Ambassadors_briefing 14:56:33 please go ahead 14:56:40 As williamjmorenor linked before 14:56:54 yes 14:56:58 but no problem 14:57:00 The idea is that we should use the material there to know what we should publicize in events 14:57:14 So, please visit it and read the links 14:57:16 *we* need ambassadors to read this wiki 14:57:31 williamjmorenor, #info point! 14:57:56 Also, if you have any comments or idea, please comment the ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/269 that will be open during the F27 release cycle 14:58:00 #info please all ambassador read F27 Ambassadors briefing 14:58:19 #info if you have any comments or idea, please comment the ticket: https://pagure.io/fedora-marketing/issue/269 that will be open during the F27 release cycle 14:58:55 ! 14:58:56 hey any one in the meetin can use #info and #link not only chairs 14:58:59 alexove 14:59:01 Also, we have a GO! The F27 will be released on Novemeber 14th, and the RC images are here: https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/27/Fedora-27-20171105.0/compose/Workstation/x86_64/iso/ and here https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/27/Fedora-27-20171105.0/compose/Spins/x86_64/iso/ and here https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/27/Fedora-27-20171105.0/compose/Labs/x86_64/iso/ 14:59:02 EOM 14:59:03 please go 14:59:12 ! 14:59:22 I was writing this wiki page 14:59:26 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Meetings 14:59:28 athos then that alexove 14:59:31 please review it 14:59:36 go on alexove 14:59:37 EOM 14:59:40 alexove++ 14:59:41 ok 14:59:52 We can vote about it later 14:59:53 athos please go ahead 14:59:53 :-) 15:00:11 vote about what? 15:00:28 the rules in the wiki page 15:00:36 alexove, I will review it and any editions I will let you know 15:00:46 It's kind of a Guide for meetings 15:00:50 oh, those are rules... OK 15:00:58 anyway 15:01:11 I don't see as rules 15:01:13 A while ago I started looking at packaging data 15:01:13 #info x3mboy will review it and any editions I will let us know 15:01:39 Yes, are rules, I ask for some issues to Alejandro Perez from Panama because he is one of old members in LATAM 15:01:41 alexove, great job! 15:01:48 I plotted this (and other stuff) just to see how things grow in fedora 15:01:49 https://athoscr.fedorapeople.org/pkg_stats/pkgs_not_reviewed.png 15:01:55 (this is old data) 15:02:12 I have been improving my scripts to fetch data from bugzilla 15:02:25 And I have a few ideas on how to study the data 15:02:56 I will write a paper in the next couple months to send to the Open Source Systems conference 15:03:06 obout this data and our community 15:03:16 cool 15:03:18 +1 15:03:25 awesome athos++ 15:03:32 so if anyone is doing any sort of academic work and want to join, let me know 15:03:33 athos++ 15:03:47 (if you want to help, ofc) 15:03:51 eof 15:04:04 awexome! 15:04:08 athos++ 15:04:43 athos, did you work this with commops? 15:05:00 not yet, I will contact them as soon as I actually have all the data I want 15:05:10 athos, cool! 15:05:19 jwf probably will be really interested 15:06:02 we are 5 minutes after time, we should close 15:06:08 yes 15:06:09 good idea 15:06:18 pleaseif there is not more comment 15:06:24 wi will close this meeting 15:06:24 x3mboy, there's not ending time yet :-/ 15:06:49 I mean, we can continue is we're with an interesting topic 15:06:54 or an urgent topic 15:07:03 chinosoliard, well, that's true 15:07:11 .nextmeetings 15:07:11 chinosoliard: One moment, please... Looking up the channel list. 15:07:14 OK guys, I need to go 15:07:15 chinosoliard: In #fedora-meeting is fesco (starting in an hour) 15:07:18 chinosoliard: In #fedora-meeting is L10n (starting in 2 days) 15:07:21 chinosoliard: In #fedora-meeting is Fedora Docs Weekly Meeting (starting in 2 days) 15:07:24 chinosoliard: In #fedora-meeting-1 is Fedora QA Devel Meeting (starting in 2 days) 15:07:25 Also, the next meeting here is in 3 days, so 15:07:27 chinosoliard: In #fedora-meeting-2 is Base Design WG meeting (starting in 3 days) 15:07:29 athos, thanks for coming 15:07:30 :D 15:07:38 see you guys :) thanks for the meeting! 15:07:44 athos, it's ok! we're finishing 15:07:44 thanks all 15:07:49 .nextmmeting #fedora-meeting-2 15:07:54 .nextmeeting #fedora-meeting-2 15:07:55 x3mboy: In #fedora-meeting-2 is Base Design WG meeting (starting in 3 days) 15:07:58 x3mboy: In #fedora-meeting-2 is CommOps IRC Meeting (starting in 3 days) 15:08:02 x3mboy: In #fedora-meeting-2 is Fedora ARM & AArch64 status meeting (starting in 3 days) 15:08:05 x3mboy: - https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/location/fedora-meeting-2%40irc.freenode.net/ 15:08:08 another think... 15:08:17 we can "order" meetings 15:08:24 first, we see and review all tickets 15:08:28 at the end, we vote each one 15:08:28 ?????? 15:08:36 it's an idea 15:09:33 so well... let's finish 15:10:13 #endmeeting