17:01:47 <mboddu> #startmeeting RELENG (2017-11-16)
17:01:47 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 16 17:01:47 2017 UTC.  The chair is mboddu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
17:01:47 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
17:01:47 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng_(2017-11-16)'
17:01:47 <mboddu> #meetingname releng
17:01:47 <mboddu> #chair dgilmore nirik tyll sharkcz masta pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk maxamillion mboddu Kellin
17:01:47 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng'
17:01:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kellin dgilmore masta maxamillion mboddu nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk sharkcz tyll
17:01:47 <mboddu> #topic init process
17:02:09 <nirik> morning
17:02:21 <masta> howdy
17:02:27 <Kellin> .hello kellin
17:02:28 <zodbot> Kellin: kellin 'None' <kellin@retromud.org>
17:02:49 <dustymabe> .hello2
17:02:50 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com>
17:03:12 * mboddu hopes this meeting will be short and sweet
17:05:26 <mboddu> Okay, lets get started
17:05:45 <mboddu> #topic #7113 proposal to run bodhi updates pungi composes with `--no-label`
17:05:58 <mboddu> dustymabe: puiterwijk was working on it, any update from him yet?
17:06:45 <puiterwijk> Can we delay discussing this until we have test results?
17:07:05 <dustymabe> yep
17:07:14 <dustymabe> i'm +1
17:07:46 <mboddu> puiterwijk: sure
17:08:33 <mboddu> #info We are still waiting on the test results.
17:09:13 <mboddu> #topic #7100 new koji tags for atomic host
17:09:21 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7100
17:09:34 <dustymabe> mboddu: this was was approved last meeting. we just need to do the work now that freezes are over
17:09:39 <mboddu> Last week we decided on https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7100#comment-478272
17:09:49 <dustymabe> mboddu: let's work together to make that happen before next meeting
17:10:00 <mboddu> dustymabe: Yes, I just wanted to know when we can collaborate and work on it?
17:10:16 <dustymabe> mboddu: later today?
17:10:44 <mboddu> dustymabe: Not today
17:11:02 <dustymabe> ok. i can create specific tickets for specific work items if you like
17:11:25 <dustymabe> i don't think it's too crazy, should be able to communicate the needs through tickets
17:11:30 <mboddu> dustymabe: Off the topic, but this reminded me about the doc and we can meet today afternoon to discuss about it
17:11:43 <dustymabe> mboddu: +1
17:12:49 <mboddu> nirik, puiterwijk : If I create the tags tomorrow, can you able to get the permissions done by EOD tomorrow?
17:13:46 <puiterwijk> mboddu: what permissions? I have no idea, I did not follow that ticket
17:14:58 <dustymabe> basically permissions to tag stuff into *atomic* koji tags
17:15:02 <mboddu> puiterwijk: Its just another permission to allow certain people to tag/untag packages from the newly created tags. "we request a new "atomic" koji permission. This permission will have the appropriate policy to allow people with this permission to add/remove packages from these tags."
17:15:30 <puiterwijk> mboddu: you know you can just do that while creating the tag, right?
17:15:40 <puiterwijk> Just create the tag with --permission=atomic and that's it
17:15:48 <puiterwijk> (and create an "atomic" permission in koji)
17:16:04 <nirik> might need some hub rules to restrict things...
17:16:28 <dustymabe> nirik: like??
17:17:01 <mboddu> puiterwijk: Yes, but I dont think "atomic" permission exists?
17:17:05 <puiterwijk> nirik: I don't think so?
17:17:14 <puiterwijk> mboddu: just create it? That's in the koji api...
17:17:17 * nirik looks at the ticket
17:17:28 <puiterwijk> nirik: as long as we make sure that all tags require permission=atomic, that should be it?
17:17:49 <nirik> yeah, looks like. ok.
17:17:57 <dustymabe> the only remaining question I have from the ticket is: do people care above f27-atomichost-installer vs f27-atomic-installer ?
17:18:00 <mboddu> puiterwijk: Okay, I will take a look at it, if I need any help I will contact you guys
17:18:10 <dustymabe> I'd like to use 'atomichost' in case we want to do this for workstation also
17:18:55 <Kellin> dustymabe: I care that the two words are run together; I'm assuming atomic-host won't work because - is separating other words?
17:19:28 <dustymabe> Kellin: doesn't really matter to me
17:19:54 <dustymabe> basically I was tryhing to separate it like <release>-<for what>-<function>
17:20:12 <Kellin> dustymabe: are the other things eg: f27-Workstation-installer?
17:20:12 <dustymabe> so this would be the tag for f27, atomichost, installer
17:20:20 <dustymabe> ehh
17:20:24 <nirik> I think making it such that you could add workstation later makes sense. Otherwise I don't care what colour the bikeshed is
17:20:28 <dustymabe> the other one would be f27-atomicworkstation-installer
17:20:39 <dustymabe> but I don't care about adding another dash
17:20:45 <dustymabe> f27-atomic-host-installer
17:20:50 <Kellin> dustymabe: I'm thinking of people parsing that later
17:20:50 <dustymabe> f27-atomic-workstation-installer
17:21:07 <dustymabe> Kellin: parsing it in their head? or in a script?
17:21:11 <Kellin> dustymabe: a script
17:21:25 <dustymabe> not sure why they would need to
17:21:38 <dustymabe> but this is a new area for me
17:21:51 <mboddu> dustymabe: I agree with Kevin, having something that we can add later makes sense.
17:21:57 <Kellin> can we put colons in there?
17:22:04 <mboddu> Kellin: nope
17:22:05 <puiterwijk> no
17:22:23 <Kellin> what other valid separators could we use
17:22:24 <dustymabe> so i don't care as long as it is one of these two
17:22:35 <dustymabe> f27-atomic-host-installer, f27-atomichost-installer
17:23:19 <nirik> ⚛ ? :)
17:23:56 <Kellin> "How's that said?" - "The variant formerly known as Atomic"
17:23:58 <mboddu> nirik: I see the emoji as a flower
17:24:10 <dustymabe> nice.
17:24:13 <nirik> it's supposed to be a 'atom' cloud
17:24:20 <dustymabe> i'm sure ausil would love that
17:24:51 <nirik> anyhow, atomichost seems fine to me.
17:24:55 <mboddu> nirik: Ohhh, right, now I can see it :)
17:25:08 <dustymabe> as far as I know the only place this will be used is in a pungi config
17:25:15 <dustymabe> i'm not really sure what would need to parse it
17:26:17 <mboddu> dustymabe: I dont think parsing is a problem, just pick one and can you update the ticket with what you picked?
17:26:27 <dustymabe> sure
17:26:34 <dustymabe> Kellin: which one do you prefer?
17:26:39 <Kellin> atomic-host
17:26:51 <dustymabe> k
17:26:53 <dustymabe> thanks
17:26:57 <Kellin> parse rule can just be read-tofirst, read from back, accept center
17:26:59 <Kellin> easy enough
17:27:45 <mboddu> dustymabe: Can you also add the list of users who should have the "atomic" permissions?
17:28:36 <dustymabe> mboddu: i can try
17:28:37 <dustymabe> thanks
17:28:50 <mboddu> dustymabe: thanks
17:29:39 <mboddu> #info mboddu will work on creating the tags and adding permissions tomorrow, Nov 17th 2017 and dustymabe will work on the configs.
17:29:55 <mboddu> Okay, moving on
17:30:06 <mboddu> #topic Alternate Architecture Updates
17:30:20 <mboddu> sharkcz: Are you around? Any update?
17:34:28 * nirik guesses not
17:34:32 <mboddu> So, I guess he is not around
17:35:28 <Kellin> holiday there I think
17:35:28 <mboddu> #topic Open Floor
17:35:43 <mboddu> I have quick question
17:35:56 <dustymabe> #info f27 release went out this week. Thanks to everyone who put in long hours and hard work to make it happen!
17:36:17 <nirik> I suspect most of the USA folks will not be here next week... we should cancel next weeks meeting. ;)
17:36:23 <mboddu> nirik: With RHEL7.4 availability on multi arch? Is there anything we have to do on epel7?
17:36:35 <mboddu> nirik: Sure, I will do that
17:37:14 <nirik> we have the new aarch64 rhel 7.4 synced. we need to switch koji to use it for epel7...
17:38:18 <mboddu> nirik: Who has to do it and when can we do it?
17:38:30 <nirik> I can do it, or you can if you want... anytime.
17:38:42 <puiterwijk> Do it *now*!
17:38:51 <mboddu> nirik: I want to do it, but can you tell me how?
17:39:33 <mboddu> puiterwijk: Why are you soo excited? Do you need anything?
17:39:35 * mboddu thinking
17:39:56 <nirik> hum, I was thinking it was just editing the external repos...
17:39:57 <puiterwijk> mboddu: no. But just get it over with, as it's a simple enough thing to do.
17:40:08 <puiterwijk> nirik: I think you'll need to delete and re-add
17:40:12 <nirik> but thats not per arch... so it might be easier to just setup synlinks on our end
17:40:28 * dustymabe steps away
17:40:34 <dustymabe> bb in a few
17:40:40 <nirik> at least I don't think so
17:41:54 <nirik> anyhow, there's a ticket on it, so we should just update it when we decide how to implement it.
17:42:21 <nirik> I think it's going to need to be links tho to the existing names
17:44:03 <mboddu> nirik: thanks, I will keep an eye on it
17:44:52 <mboddu> #info We have the new aarch64 rhel 7.4 synced. we need to switch koji to use it for epel7 and we are thinking on how to implement it.
17:45:00 <mboddu> Thats all I have
17:45:06 <mboddu> Anybody got anything else?
17:45:55 * mboddu counting from 10 to 1
17:47:02 <mboddu> Okay, thanks guys for joining
17:47:21 <mboddu> I will cancel next weekss meeting
17:47:26 <mboddu> weeks'
17:47:38 <mboddu> #endmeeting