15:30:28 <jwf> #startmeeting Fedora CommOps (2018-01-22)
15:30:28 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Jan 22 15:30:28 2018 UTC.  The chair is jwf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:30:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_commops_(2018-01-22)'
15:30:28 <jwf> #meetingname commops
15:30:28 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'commops'
15:30:30 <jwf> #nick commops
15:30:40 <jwf> #topic Agenda
15:30:45 <jwf> #link https://infinote.fedoraproject.org/cgit/infinote/tree/meeting-templates/fedora-commops-meeting-next
15:30:46 <jwf> #info (1) Roll call / Q&A
15:30:46 <jwf> #info (2) Announcements
15:30:46 <jwf> #info (3) Action items from last meeting
15:30:46 <jwf> #info (4) Tickets
15:30:47 <jwf> #info (5) Open floor
15:30:52 <jwf> #topic Roll call / Q&A
15:30:59 <jwf> #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas
15:30:59 <jwf> #action commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ]
15:31:04 <jwf> If this is your first time at a CommOps meeting, feel free to introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask.
15:31:12 <bee_> .hello bee2502
15:31:13 <zodbot> bee_: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' <bhagyashree.iitg@gmail.com>
15:31:14 <jwf> #info Justin W. Flory; UTC-5; CommOps, Diversity, Ambassadors
15:31:18 * jwf waves to bee_
15:31:27 <jwf> #chair bee_
15:31:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee_ jwf
15:31:50 <wesleyotugo> #Info Dennis W. Otugo; UTC+1, CommOps
15:32:32 <bee_> #info Bhagyashree/Bee; UTC+1; Metrics, Diversity, CommOps
15:33:18 <jwf> Hey wesleyotugo!
15:33:20 <jwf> #chair wesleyotugo
15:33:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee_ jwf wesleyotugo
15:33:30 <jwf> We'll wait a couple more minutes for any other folks. :)
15:34:07 <x3mboy> .hello2
15:34:08 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
15:34:48 <jwf> x3mboy: Heyo!
15:34:51 <dhanesh95> .hello
15:34:51 <zodbot> dhanesh95: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
15:34:52 <jwf> #chair x3mboy
15:34:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee_ jwf wesleyotugo x3mboy
15:34:53 <x3mboy> bee_, o/
15:34:55 <jwf> #chair dhanesh95
15:34:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee_ dhanesh95 jwf wesleyotugo x3mboy
15:34:56 <x3mboy> jwf, o/
15:34:58 <dhanesh95> .hello2
15:34:59 <zodbot> dhanesh95: dhanesh95 'Dhanesh Bhalchandra Sabane' <dhanesh95@disroot.org>
15:35:04 <x3mboy> dhanesh95, o/
15:35:09 * jwf waves twice
15:35:31 <dhanesh95> #info Dhanesh B. Sabane, UTC+5:30, CommOps, RPM packaging, Python
15:35:35 <bexelbie> .hello bex
15:35:35 <dhanesh95> jwf: o/
15:35:35 <zodbot> bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' <bex@pobox.com>
15:35:36 * bexelbie lurks
15:35:38 <dhanesh95> x3mboy: o/
15:35:43 <jwf> #chair bexelbie
15:35:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee_ bexelbie dhanesh95 jwf wesleyotugo x3mboy
15:35:50 * jwf waves to the back corner of room
15:35:51 <x3mboy> bexelbie, o/
15:35:57 <dhanesh95> I was able to make it in time today.
15:36:03 * dhanesh95 is so happy
15:36:08 <jwf> Awesome! \o/
15:36:12 <wesleyotugo> jwf:  Hello, network in the area I am in is kinda tricky; I am glad i was able to connect
15:36:17 <jwf> I think we're good to get started then.
15:36:30 <dhanesh95> Let's go!
15:36:31 <bee_> o/ dhanesh95 jwf  x3mboy wesleyotugo
15:36:33 <jwf> wesleyotugo: At least that's one of the nice things of Riot – even if you lose connection, you should see the messages when you reconnect. :)
15:36:39 <jwf> #topic Announcements
15:36:40 <dhanesh95> bee_: o/
15:36:48 <jwf> #info === Reminder: CommOps FAD next week! ===
15:36:48 <jwf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018
15:36:48 <jwf> #info Wrapping up on the final week to do any supporting research before we arrive. Attendees, remote and in-person, please double-check your availability is still correct!
15:36:57 <jwf> We'll cover the FAD more in-depth this meeting!
15:37:04 <jwf> #info === Elections are ongoing - voting ends Wed., Jan. 24 @ 23:59 UTC ===
15:37:05 <jwf> #link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/
15:37:11 <jwf> All interviews:
15:37:12 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/january-2018-elections-council/
15:37:12 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/january-2018-elections-fesco/
15:37:12 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/january-2018-elections-mindshare/
15:37:18 <jwf> #info Elections are open for almost two more days. Make sure to get your votes in before the deadline!
15:37:22 <jwf> <eof>
15:37:30 <jwf> Anyone else have anything they'd like to throw out or share?
15:37:52 <dhanesh95> nothing here
15:38:02 <bt0_> hi
15:38:42 * jwf waves to bt0_
15:38:45 <jwf> #chair bt0_
15:38:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee_ bexelbie bt0_ dhanesh95 jwf wesleyotugo x3mboy
15:38:56 <jwf> Announcements, going once…
15:39:05 <jwf> Going twice…
15:39:10 <jwf> And thrice.
15:39:14 <jwf> #topic Action items from last meeting
15:39:17 <jwf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-01-15/commops.2018-01-15-15.29.html
15:39:21 <jwf> #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward.
15:39:30 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "jwf Create a logic model based on the current FAD template" ===
15:39:34 <jwf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:CommOps_FAD_2018_Logic_Model.png
15:39:38 <jwf> #info Logic model is complete: helps demonstrate what we plan to carry out and how it will impact the Fedora community
15:39:43 <jwf> #info === [IN PROGRESS] "skamath Add comment to ticket #114 (Grimoire ticket) that estimates a timeline for the Perceval fedmsg plugin development" ===
15:39:46 <jwf> #info Hacking on the dashboard today. Found potential blocker and will open a ticket on their issue tracker
15:39:49 <jwf> #action skamath Add comment to ticket #114 (Grimoire ticket) that estimates a timeline for the Perceval fedmsg plugin development
15:39:54 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "dhanesh95 Reach out to Fedora Magazine team to get feedback on helpful data to incorporate into fedmsg via WordPress's REST API (note limitations of REST API too – what's helpful for what we can extract?)" ===
15:39:58 <jwf> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/3A2FE4GFSWRERZPTZQCWG5A6VUNZKMB4/
15:40:05 <jwf> #info Some helpful feedback; ryanlerch may add more, but for now, we'll have independent oversight to where we focus in on the FAD
15:40:11 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "skamath Ask GrimoireLab team if they will be attending GSoC this year" ===
15:40:15 <jwf> #info Emailed, waiting for response by Grimoire team
15:40:19 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "jwf Review wesleyotugo's Bodhi Year in Review post, combined with bowlofeggs' feedback, get scheduled!" ===
15:40:22 <nauticalnexus[m]> Hello I am here!!!!
15:40:22 <jwf> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=5073&preview=1&_ppp=3cbb4a624d
15:40:26 <jwf> #info Scheduled for Tuesday, Jan. 22 at 08:15 UTC!
15:40:29 <jwf> nauticalnexus[m]: Hi!
15:40:31 <jwf> #chair nauticalnexus[m]
15:40:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee_ bexelbie bt0_ dhanesh95 jwf nauticalnexus[m] wesleyotugo x3mboy
15:40:32 <dhanesh95> nauticalnexus[m]: o/
15:40:51 <jwf> wesleyotugo++ Nice work on the article, and thanks for sticking through with it to the end! :)
15:40:56 <jwf> #info === [COMPLETE] "jwf Confirm with Rhea when the meeting room is available, make agenda to go on wiki" ===
15:40:59 <jwf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018#Schedule
15:41:02 <jwf> #info Schedule draft prepared. Please review and share any feedback you may have.
15:41:04 <jwf> <eof>
15:41:14 <jwf> Okay, action item follow-up was fast today!
15:41:17 <bt0_> WOW
15:41:19 <jwf> Nice work, everyone!
15:41:23 <jwf> \o/
15:41:33 <jwf> #topic Tickets
15:41:37 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues?tags=meeting
15:41:44 <jwf> #info === Ticket #125: "[TRACKER TICKET] Organize a CommOps FAD" ===
15:41:44 <jwf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/125
15:41:48 <jwf> #info Final week until FAD – some of us begin traveling this week, so it may be slower from the end of this week until the FAD.
15:42:09 <jwf> I mostly wanted to take the meeting time for this ticket to review the logic model and the schedule, and see what anyone else's thoughts were.
15:42:21 <jwf> I figure most people haven't had a chance to look yet – I finished it all late last night. :P
15:42:34 <jwf> Let me grab those two links again…
15:42:40 <bt0_> ok
15:42:44 <jwf> (Also, if anyone thinks the pace is too fast, let me know!)
15:42:58 <jwf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:CommOps_FAD_2018_Logic_Model.png
15:43:05 <jwf> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018#Schedule
15:43:21 <jwf> I think the logic model helps make our FAD easier to understand
15:45:08 <bee_> jwf Is there a particular reason why metrics is on the last day? If possible, can we  have it on Monday instead?
15:46:03 <bee_> jwf++ for logic model and the schedule
15:46:09 <bee_> jflory7++
15:46:31 <dhanesh95> jwf++ Great work with the logic model
15:46:51 <nauticalnexus[m]> Is..is the meeting over already? :o
15:47:05 <dhanesh95> jwf: Is the time UTC?
15:47:06 <bt0_> the logic model is very awesome, congratulations jwf++
15:47:06 <jwf> bee_: I mostly wanted to make sure bexelbie was around for the GrimoireLabs one. I chose to do it on Wednesday so it could be a nice way for us to head into GrimoireCon.
15:47:35 <jwf> bee_: We don't have bexelbie until Monday afternoon. We could start the GrimoireLabs discussion on Monday afternoon and move into Tuesday with it.
15:48:14 <jwf> nauticalnexus[m]: Nope, still here!
15:48:21 <bee_> jwf Monday+Tuesday early half works for me.
15:48:32 <dhanesh95> jwf: Nevermind, all times in local time. Didn't read that :P
15:48:36 <jwf> dhanesh95: All times in the schedule are in local time. CET / UTC-1. There's a few notes at the top of the schedule.
15:48:40 <jwf> No worries :)
15:48:57 <jwf> The logic model was helpful for me when I was putting it together, so I hope it's also helpful for all of you too :)
15:49:09 <jwf> bee_: Let me try plugging and playing really quick
15:50:44 <nauticalnexus[m]> Yay!
15:51:01 <jwf> bee_: How does this look? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018#Schedule
15:51:48 <x3mboy> Should we support FAmSCo/Mindshare about the idea of a landing page. I think the best idea was to migrate http://fedoracommunity.org
15:52:00 <jwf> I pushed Wednesday ahead by an hour so we could fit the full retrospective in
15:52:05 <bee_> jwf +1
15:52:09 <jwf> I think a final retrospective at the end will be important
15:52:12 <jwf> bee_: Awesome!
15:52:27 <jwf> #info Schedule re-arranged: GrimoireLabs discussion on Tuesday, elections + fedmsg plugins on Wednesday
15:52:40 <jwf> Also, if we don't get to fedmsg plugins or spend the time we want on it, I won't be heartbroken
15:52:55 <jwf> x3mboy: Not sure I follow. What's a landing page for?
15:53:10 <x3mboy> For Ambassadors
15:53:33 <x3mboy> It was in the Ambassadors ML that there isn't a good way to communicate with ambassadors
15:53:46 <jwf> Oh, yeah, I remember that discussion
15:54:05 <jwf> x3mboy: What's your idea? I think it's something that could fit into our type of work.
15:54:14 <bexelbie> x3mboy, It'd be great if we could make a landing page that was highly findable.  I am concerned about the explosion of urls we have.  Let's at a minimum get it linked to docs.fp.o when we have it
15:54:45 <x3mboy> Well, my idea is to identify how we can improve the communication from the public to Ambys
15:55:01 <jwf> Maybe I misunderstand the page's purpose – is it static documentation or a communication method to the community from people not involved in Fedora?
15:55:23 <x3mboy> A little of both, but the better is to serve as a communication portal
15:55:54 <bt0_> sounds great
15:56:31 <nauticalnexus[m]> What if I can't physically make it to FAD
15:57:38 <bee_> nauticalnexus you can always participate remotely..
15:57:52 <jwf> x3mboy: I'm open-minded to it. I suggest opening a ticket in the CommOps Pagure to expand on your idea, and then we can revisit then. Sound good?
15:58:06 <nauticalnexus[m]> Oh okay
15:58:06 <dhanesh95> nauticalnexus[m]: You can always participate remotely. Me, bee_ , x3mboy and bt0_ are participating remotely
15:58:07 <x3mboy> Yes
15:58:16 <x3mboy> I will open it
15:58:20 <jwf> nauticalnexus[m]: Yeah, there will definitely be remote contribution opportunities :)
15:58:23 <x3mboy> Please action-me about it
15:58:26 <jwf> x3mboy++ Awesome, thanks!
15:58:43 <jwf> #action x3mboy Open new CommOps ticket with expanded idea on improving communication from public to Ambassadors
15:58:52 <jwf> Okay. Anything else for the FAD we want to discuss?
15:58:58 <jwf> Any feedback, concerns, questions?
15:59:14 <jwf> And attendees, please make sure your availability is correct on the wiki for what days you will be present for!
15:59:52 <dhanesh95> jwf: !
16:00:00 <jwf> dhanesh95: Floor is yours!
16:00:41 <dhanesh95> jwf: Do I ping on the Magazine mailing list again or shall we go with what we have right now?
16:01:44 <jwf> dhanesh95: I think we can go with what we have now. You could drop an IRC message to ryanlerch and get his feedback, but otherwise, I think I can try to fill the gap during the FAD.
16:01:50 <jwf> Oops, need to go AFK for 5 mins
16:02:21 <dhanesh95> Also, how will we be collaborating? #fedora-commops or a BlueJeans instance or Jitsi or anything else?
16:02:46 <x3mboy> I think BlueJeans will be a great option
16:03:38 <bt0_> good question , also i need tons of coffee  :p
16:04:04 <dhanesh95> x3mboy: Anything audio/visual will work. Otherwise, we'll be spending a lot of time typing out everything.
16:04:20 <bt0_> Brno Is 5 hours ahead of México city
16:04:51 <dhanesh95> bt0_: That's a lot of coffee! :P
16:05:03 <bee_> I am not sure if the connection will be good enough for video. I am hoping it should be. If not, +1 for audio definitely..
16:06:01 <bt0_> it's fine for me
16:06:09 <x3mboy> Anything is fine from me
16:06:13 <dhanesh95> audio++
16:06:33 <x3mboy> bt0_, Is Mexico DF UTC-5?
16:07:07 <bt0_> the camera makes me look fat
16:07:23 <jwf> Okay, back
16:07:30 <bt0_> yeah
16:07:36 <bt0_> UTC -5
16:07:51 <jwf> dhanesh95, bt0_: I think BlueJeans will be most likely. Last year, there was a bridge inside of the meeting room that was pre-configured for BlueJeans meetings
16:08:13 <jwf> bee_: If not, audio alone should be okay.
16:08:20 <x3mboy> Ok, for me is UTC-3
16:08:40 <jwf> bt0_: For Monday morning, I wouldn't worry about catching the ticket triage bit if you want some extra sleep. :) I imagine we'll be getting into details starting around the Appreciation Week time
16:08:44 <jwf> Same for you, x3mboy
16:09:08 <jwf> Anything else we want to cover / discuss for the FAD before moving on?
16:09:18 * jwf is starting to get pulled across multiple meetings :D
16:09:19 <bee_> !
16:09:23 <bee_> I was thinking we could also use the FAD/ this meeting to decide what goals/tasks we want to acheive over the year.. sort of like year-in-review but for future instead of past.. I know having a Fedora Appreciation Day event and implementing Metrics Dashboard are on the table, but I am not sure about others like Onboarding, FOSS student pack etc.
16:09:24 <dhanesh95> That's all from my side.
16:09:37 <jwf> bee_: I would really like to do that too
16:10:02 <jwf> bee_: In a short-term, I wanted to do that at the start of the FAD, but maybe I can bump back our retrospective time by an hour so we can really do this at the end.
16:10:20 <dhanesh95> jwf, bee_ : Can we do that during the ticket triage? At the start of the FAD?
16:10:39 <bee_> I am +1 for start of the FAD too. I am not available on Wednesday.
16:10:54 <jwf> #idea Coming up with a 1-year, high-level plan for CommOps post-FAD (covering ideas we want to include in 2018 but may not be discussed during FAD)
16:11:10 <jwf> dhanesh95, bee_: True – we can extend the morning triage time then.
16:11:18 <jwf> Maybe x3mboy and bt0_ will want to get up early after all then :P
16:11:32 <x3mboy> :P
16:11:42 <dhanesh95> bt0_, x3mboy : Come over on this side of the world! It's awesome here!
16:11:44 <x3mboy> No problem for me
16:12:02 <dhanesh95> I think among the remote participants, IST people are the most fortunate ones. :P
16:12:25 <x3mboy> dhanesh95, the time frame of the FAD doesn't works for me this time
16:12:26 <jwf> Schedule is updated: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018#Schedule
16:12:27 <nauticalnexus[m]> How would I remote participate
16:12:49 <jwf> nauticalnexus[m]: We'll have a BlueJeans video call link to share closer to the FAD. :)
16:13:26 <jwf> x3mboy: Maybe next time, we need to come to Chile ;)
16:13:43 <x3mboy> jwf, you will be very welcome!
16:13:47 <jwf> Anything else for the FAD?
16:13:49 <jwf> x3mboy: :D
16:13:59 <jwf> Otherwise, we'll hop into open floor
16:14:02 <dhanesh95> Going once for FAD...
16:14:04 <x3mboy> It will be fun to organize a project-wide event
16:14:15 <jwf> Going twice… :)
16:14:20 <jwf> And thrice.
16:14:24 <dhanesh95> Sold!
16:14:25 <jwf> #topic Open floor
16:14:30 <jwf> x3mboy: +1!
16:14:46 <jwf> Anyone have any general questions or things to discuss?
16:14:56 <jwf> Any ongoing work, need help with anything?
16:15:07 <x3mboy> I think bt0_ was working in the onboard process of the team, Am I right?
16:15:07 <dhanesh95> jwf: Can we hire a couple of your minions? :P
16:15:27 <x3mboy> I'm really interested in this, because marketing needs a lot of help in this front
16:15:50 <nauticalnexus[m]> I love open floor :3
16:15:51 <jwf> x3mboy: For CommOps? :o
16:16:26 <jwf> dhanesh95: lolol… I'm running out of personal minions! Need to find more time for Fedora things :)
16:16:45 <nauticalnexus[m]> jwf I actually do need help haha
16:16:54 <jwf> nauticalnexus[m]: Sure! What's up?
16:17:07 <x3mboy> Yeap, I think the tickets are marked as [Onboarding Series]
16:17:21 <x3mboy> But know I'm seeing all of them are tagged as "blocked"
16:17:47 <x3mboy> s/know/now/g
16:18:06 <jwf> x3mboy: I think those tickets are blocked because there's some badges we helped start, but the badges are also now blocked
16:18:14 <jwf> This is definitely one of the things I want to revisit during the FAD
16:18:17 <nauticalnexus[m]> jwf well you know we've been discussing it on telegram for a bit now.
16:18:19 * dhanesh95 waves goodbye. Moving on to another community meeting. o/
16:18:31 <jwf> Maybe we need to let some things go, like two year old tickets. :P
16:18:41 <jwf> dhanesh95: Ciao! Thanks for coming out! Enjoy your evening. :)
16:18:53 <jwf> nauticalnexus[m]: Did you have a specific question or something we can help you with here?
16:19:09 <dhanesh95> jwf: Sayonara!
16:19:15 <dhanesh95> Sayonara CommOps!
16:19:30 * jwf watches dhanesh95 disappear in cloud of magic dust
16:19:32 <jwf> :P
16:20:09 <bt0_> bye dhanesh95
16:20:20 <dhanesh95> jwf: lolol.. :D
16:20:23 <dhanesh95> bt0_: o/
16:22:19 <nauticalnexus[m]> jwf: Well unless you know some magical way to get fedora 27 on a PPC G5.. nope!
16:22:37 <jwf> Hahah, alright :)
16:22:52 <jwf> In that case, we can go ahead and wrap up here and head back to #fedora-commops.
16:23:01 <jwf> Last call for open floor, going once…
16:23:10 <nauticalnexus[m]> :P
16:23:10 <jwf> Going twice…
16:23:20 <jwf> And thrice again…
16:23:26 <jwf> Awesome, thanks all for coming out today!
16:23:33 <jwf> Lots of momentum here, can't wait for next week :)
16:23:38 <jwf> See you next time!
16:23:39 <jwf> #endmeeting