15:30:28 #startmeeting Fedora CommOps (2018-01-22) 15:30:28 Meeting started Mon Jan 22 15:30:28 2018 UTC. The chair is jwf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:30:28 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:30:28 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_commops_(2018-01-22)' 15:30:28 #meetingname commops 15:30:28 The meeting name has been set to 'commops' 15:30:30 #nick commops 15:30:40 #topic Agenda 15:30:45 #link https://infinote.fedoraproject.org/cgit/infinote/tree/meeting-templates/fedora-commops-meeting-next 15:30:46 #info (1) Roll call / Q&A 15:30:46 #info (2) Announcements 15:30:46 #info (3) Action items from last meeting 15:30:46 #info (4) Tickets 15:30:47 #info (5) Open floor 15:30:52 #topic Roll call / Q&A 15:30:59 #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas 15:30:59 #action commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ] 15:31:04 If this is your first time at a CommOps meeting, feel free to introduce yourself to everyone and say hello! If anyone has any questions before we get started with the rest of the agenda, now is also a good time to ask. 15:31:12 .hello bee2502 15:31:13 bee_: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' 15:31:14 #info Justin W. Flory; UTC-5; CommOps, Diversity, Ambassadors 15:31:18 * jwf waves to bee_ 15:31:27 #chair bee_ 15:31:27 Current chairs: bee_ jwf 15:31:50 #Info Dennis W. Otugo; UTC+1, CommOps 15:32:32 #info Bhagyashree/Bee; UTC+1; Metrics, Diversity, CommOps 15:33:18 Hey wesleyotugo! 15:33:20 #chair wesleyotugo 15:33:20 Current chairs: bee_ jwf wesleyotugo 15:33:30 We'll wait a couple more minutes for any other folks. :) 15:34:07 .hello2 15:34:08 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 15:34:48 x3mboy: Heyo! 15:34:51 .hello 15:34:51 dhanesh95: (hello ) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 15:34:52 #chair x3mboy 15:34:52 Current chairs: bee_ jwf wesleyotugo x3mboy 15:34:53 bee_, o/ 15:34:55 #chair dhanesh95 15:34:55 Current chairs: bee_ dhanesh95 jwf wesleyotugo x3mboy 15:34:56 jwf, o/ 15:34:58 .hello2 15:34:59 dhanesh95: dhanesh95 'Dhanesh Bhalchandra Sabane' 15:35:04 dhanesh95, o/ 15:35:09 * jwf waves twice 15:35:31 #info Dhanesh B. Sabane, UTC+5:30, CommOps, RPM packaging, Python 15:35:35 .hello bex 15:35:35 jwf: o/ 15:35:35 bexelbie: bex 'Brian (bex) Exelbierd' 15:35:36 * bexelbie lurks 15:35:38 x3mboy: o/ 15:35:43 #chair bexelbie 15:35:43 Current chairs: bee_ bexelbie dhanesh95 jwf wesleyotugo x3mboy 15:35:50 * jwf waves to the back corner of room 15:35:51 bexelbie, o/ 15:35:57 I was able to make it in time today. 15:36:03 * dhanesh95 is so happy 15:36:08 Awesome! \o/ 15:36:12 jwf: Hello, network in the area I am in is kinda tricky; I am glad i was able to connect 15:36:17 I think we're good to get started then. 15:36:30 Let's go! 15:36:31 o/ dhanesh95 jwf x3mboy wesleyotugo 15:36:33 wesleyotugo: At least that's one of the nice things of Riot – even if you lose connection, you should see the messages when you reconnect. :) 15:36:39 #topic Announcements 15:36:40 bee_: o/ 15:36:48 #info === Reminder: CommOps FAD next week! === 15:36:48 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018 15:36:48 #info Wrapping up on the final week to do any supporting research before we arrive. Attendees, remote and in-person, please double-check your availability is still correct! 15:36:57 We'll cover the FAD more in-depth this meeting! 15:37:04 #info === Elections are ongoing - voting ends Wed., Jan. 24 @ 23:59 UTC === 15:37:05 #link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/ 15:37:11 All interviews: 15:37:12 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/january-2018-elections-council/ 15:37:12 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/january-2018-elections-fesco/ 15:37:12 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/january-2018-elections-mindshare/ 15:37:18 #info Elections are open for almost two more days. Make sure to get your votes in before the deadline! 15:37:22 15:37:30 Anyone else have anything they'd like to throw out or share? 15:37:52 nothing here 15:38:02 hi 15:38:42 * jwf waves to bt0_ 15:38:45 #chair bt0_ 15:38:45 Current chairs: bee_ bexelbie bt0_ dhanesh95 jwf wesleyotugo x3mboy 15:38:56 Announcements, going once… 15:39:05 Going twice… 15:39:10 And thrice. 15:39:14 #topic Action items from last meeting 15:39:17 #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-01-15/commops.2018-01-15-15.29.html 15:39:21 #info How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action if needed. If no status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. 15:39:30 #info === [COMPLETE] "jwf Create a logic model based on the current FAD template" === 15:39:34 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:CommOps_FAD_2018_Logic_Model.png 15:39:38 #info Logic model is complete: helps demonstrate what we plan to carry out and how it will impact the Fedora community 15:39:43 #info === [IN PROGRESS] "skamath Add comment to ticket #114 (Grimoire ticket) that estimates a timeline for the Perceval fedmsg plugin development" === 15:39:46 #info Hacking on the dashboard today. Found potential blocker and will open a ticket on their issue tracker 15:39:49 #action skamath Add comment to ticket #114 (Grimoire ticket) that estimates a timeline for the Perceval fedmsg plugin development 15:39:54 #info === [COMPLETE] "dhanesh95 Reach out to Fedora Magazine team to get feedback on helpful data to incorporate into fedmsg via WordPress's REST API (note limitations of REST API too – what's helpful for what we can extract?)" === 15:39:58 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/magazine@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/3A2FE4GFSWRERZPTZQCWG5A6VUNZKMB4/ 15:40:05 #info Some helpful feedback; ryanlerch may add more, but for now, we'll have independent oversight to where we focus in on the FAD 15:40:11 #info === [COMPLETE] "skamath Ask GrimoireLab team if they will be attending GSoC this year" === 15:40:15 #info Emailed, waiting for response by Grimoire team 15:40:19 #info === [COMPLETE] "jwf Review wesleyotugo's Bodhi Year in Review post, combined with bowlofeggs' feedback, get scheduled!" === 15:40:22 Hello I am here!!!! 15:40:22 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=5073&preview=1&_ppp=3cbb4a624d 15:40:26 #info Scheduled for Tuesday, Jan. 22 at 08:15 UTC! 15:40:29 nauticalnexus[m]: Hi! 15:40:31 #chair nauticalnexus[m] 15:40:31 Current chairs: bee_ bexelbie bt0_ dhanesh95 jwf nauticalnexus[m] wesleyotugo x3mboy 15:40:32 nauticalnexus[m]: o/ 15:40:51 wesleyotugo++ Nice work on the article, and thanks for sticking through with it to the end! :) 15:40:56 #info === [COMPLETE] "jwf Confirm with Rhea when the meeting room is available, make agenda to go on wiki" === 15:40:59 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018#Schedule 15:41:02 #info Schedule draft prepared. Please review and share any feedback you may have. 15:41:04 15:41:14 Okay, action item follow-up was fast today! 15:41:17 WOW 15:41:19 Nice work, everyone! 15:41:23 \o/ 15:41:33 #topic Tickets 15:41:37 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues?tags=meeting 15:41:44 #info === Ticket #125: "[TRACKER TICKET] Organize a CommOps FAD" === 15:41:44 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/125 15:41:48 #info Final week until FAD – some of us begin traveling this week, so it may be slower from the end of this week until the FAD. 15:42:09 I mostly wanted to take the meeting time for this ticket to review the logic model and the schedule, and see what anyone else's thoughts were. 15:42:21 I figure most people haven't had a chance to look yet – I finished it all late last night. :P 15:42:34 Let me grab those two links again… 15:42:40 ok 15:42:44 (Also, if anyone thinks the pace is too fast, let me know!) 15:42:58 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:CommOps_FAD_2018_Logic_Model.png 15:43:05 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018#Schedule 15:43:21 I think the logic model helps make our FAD easier to understand 15:45:08 jwf Is there a particular reason why metrics is on the last day? If possible, can we have it on Monday instead? 15:46:03 jwf++ for logic model and the schedule 15:46:09 jflory7++ 15:46:31 jwf++ Great work with the logic model 15:46:51 Is..is the meeting over already? :o 15:47:05 jwf: Is the time UTC? 15:47:06 the logic model is very awesome, congratulations jwf++ 15:47:06 bee_: I mostly wanted to make sure bexelbie was around for the GrimoireLabs one. I chose to do it on Wednesday so it could be a nice way for us to head into GrimoireCon. 15:47:35 bee_: We don't have bexelbie until Monday afternoon. We could start the GrimoireLabs discussion on Monday afternoon and move into Tuesday with it. 15:48:14 nauticalnexus[m]: Nope, still here! 15:48:21 jwf Monday+Tuesday early half works for me. 15:48:32 jwf: Nevermind, all times in local time. Didn't read that :P 15:48:36 dhanesh95: All times in the schedule are in local time. CET / UTC-1. There's a few notes at the top of the schedule. 15:48:40 No worries :) 15:48:57 The logic model was helpful for me when I was putting it together, so I hope it's also helpful for all of you too :) 15:49:09 bee_: Let me try plugging and playing really quick 15:50:44 Yay! 15:51:01 bee_: How does this look? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018#Schedule 15:51:48 Should we support FAmSCo/Mindshare about the idea of a landing page. I think the best idea was to migrate http://fedoracommunity.org 15:52:00 I pushed Wednesday ahead by an hour so we could fit the full retrospective in 15:52:05 jwf +1 15:52:09 I think a final retrospective at the end will be important 15:52:12 bee_: Awesome! 15:52:27 #info Schedule re-arranged: GrimoireLabs discussion on Tuesday, elections + fedmsg plugins on Wednesday 15:52:40 Also, if we don't get to fedmsg plugins or spend the time we want on it, I won't be heartbroken 15:52:55 x3mboy: Not sure I follow. What's a landing page for? 15:53:10 For Ambassadors 15:53:33 It was in the Ambassadors ML that there isn't a good way to communicate with ambassadors 15:53:46 Oh, yeah, I remember that discussion 15:54:05 x3mboy: What's your idea? I think it's something that could fit into our type of work. 15:54:14 x3mboy, It'd be great if we could make a landing page that was highly findable. I am concerned about the explosion of urls we have. Let's at a minimum get it linked to docs.fp.o when we have it 15:54:45 Well, my idea is to identify how we can improve the communication from the public to Ambys 15:55:01 Maybe I misunderstand the page's purpose – is it static documentation or a communication method to the community from people not involved in Fedora? 15:55:23 A little of both, but the better is to serve as a communication portal 15:55:54 sounds great 15:56:31 What if I can't physically make it to FAD 15:57:38 nauticalnexus you can always participate remotely.. 15:57:52 x3mboy: I'm open-minded to it. I suggest opening a ticket in the CommOps Pagure to expand on your idea, and then we can revisit then. Sound good? 15:58:06 Oh okay 15:58:06 nauticalnexus[m]: You can always participate remotely. Me, bee_ , x3mboy and bt0_ are participating remotely 15:58:07 Yes 15:58:16 I will open it 15:58:20 nauticalnexus[m]: Yeah, there will definitely be remote contribution opportunities :) 15:58:23 Please action-me about it 15:58:26 x3mboy++ Awesome, thanks! 15:58:43 #action x3mboy Open new CommOps ticket with expanded idea on improving communication from public to Ambassadors 15:58:52 Okay. Anything else for the FAD we want to discuss? 15:58:58 Any feedback, concerns, questions? 15:59:14 And attendees, please make sure your availability is correct on the wiki for what days you will be present for! 15:59:52 jwf: ! 16:00:00 dhanesh95: Floor is yours! 16:00:41 jwf: Do I ping on the Magazine mailing list again or shall we go with what we have right now? 16:01:44 dhanesh95: I think we can go with what we have now. You could drop an IRC message to ryanlerch and get his feedback, but otherwise, I think I can try to fill the gap during the FAD. 16:01:50 Oops, need to go AFK for 5 mins 16:02:21 Also, how will we be collaborating? #fedora-commops or a BlueJeans instance or Jitsi or anything else? 16:02:46 I think BlueJeans will be a great option 16:03:38 good question , also i need tons of coffee :p 16:04:04 x3mboy: Anything audio/visual will work. Otherwise, we'll be spending a lot of time typing out everything. 16:04:20 Brno Is 5 hours ahead of México city 16:04:51 bt0_: That's a lot of coffee! :P 16:05:03 I am not sure if the connection will be good enough for video. I am hoping it should be. If not, +1 for audio definitely.. 16:06:01 it's fine for me 16:06:09 Anything is fine from me 16:06:13 audio++ 16:06:33 bt0_, Is Mexico DF UTC-5? 16:07:07 the camera makes me look fat 16:07:23 Okay, back 16:07:30 yeah 16:07:36 UTC -5 16:07:51 dhanesh95, bt0_: I think BlueJeans will be most likely. Last year, there was a bridge inside of the meeting room that was pre-configured for BlueJeans meetings 16:08:13 bee_: If not, audio alone should be okay. 16:08:20 Ok, for me is UTC-3 16:08:40 bt0_: For Monday morning, I wouldn't worry about catching the ticket triage bit if you want some extra sleep. :) I imagine we'll be getting into details starting around the Appreciation Week time 16:08:44 Same for you, x3mboy 16:09:08 Anything else we want to cover / discuss for the FAD before moving on? 16:09:18 * jwf is starting to get pulled across multiple meetings :D 16:09:19 ! 16:09:23 I was thinking we could also use the FAD/ this meeting to decide what goals/tasks we want to acheive over the year.. sort of like year-in-review but for future instead of past.. I know having a Fedora Appreciation Day event and implementing Metrics Dashboard are on the table, but I am not sure about others like Onboarding, FOSS student pack etc. 16:09:24 That's all from my side. 16:09:37 bee_: I would really like to do that too 16:10:02 bee_: In a short-term, I wanted to do that at the start of the FAD, but maybe I can bump back our retrospective time by an hour so we can really do this at the end. 16:10:20 jwf, bee_ : Can we do that during the ticket triage? At the start of the FAD? 16:10:39 I am +1 for start of the FAD too. I am not available on Wednesday. 16:10:54 #idea Coming up with a 1-year, high-level plan for CommOps post-FAD (covering ideas we want to include in 2018 but may not be discussed during FAD) 16:11:10 dhanesh95, bee_: True – we can extend the morning triage time then. 16:11:18 Maybe x3mboy and bt0_ will want to get up early after all then :P 16:11:32 :P 16:11:42 bt0_, x3mboy : Come over on this side of the world! It's awesome here! 16:11:44 No problem for me 16:12:02 I think among the remote participants, IST people are the most fortunate ones. :P 16:12:25 dhanesh95, the time frame of the FAD doesn't works for me this time 16:12:26 Schedule is updated: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018#Schedule 16:12:27 How would I remote participate 16:12:49 nauticalnexus[m]: We'll have a BlueJeans video call link to share closer to the FAD. :) 16:13:26 x3mboy: Maybe next time, we need to come to Chile ;) 16:13:43 jwf, you will be very welcome! 16:13:47 Anything else for the FAD? 16:13:49 x3mboy: :D 16:13:59 Otherwise, we'll hop into open floor 16:14:02 Going once for FAD... 16:14:04 It will be fun to organize a project-wide event 16:14:15 Going twice… :) 16:14:20 And thrice. 16:14:24 Sold! 16:14:25 #topic Open floor 16:14:30 x3mboy: +1! 16:14:46 Anyone have any general questions or things to discuss? 16:14:56 Any ongoing work, need help with anything? 16:15:07 I think bt0_ was working in the onboard process of the team, Am I right? 16:15:07 jwf: Can we hire a couple of your minions? :P 16:15:27 I'm really interested in this, because marketing needs a lot of help in this front 16:15:50 I love open floor :3 16:15:51 x3mboy: For CommOps? :o 16:16:26 dhanesh95: lolol… I'm running out of personal minions! Need to find more time for Fedora things :) 16:16:45 jwf I actually do need help haha 16:16:54 nauticalnexus[m]: Sure! What's up? 16:17:07 Yeap, I think the tickets are marked as [Onboarding Series] 16:17:21 But know I'm seeing all of them are tagged as "blocked" 16:17:47 s/know/now/g 16:18:06 x3mboy: I think those tickets are blocked because there's some badges we helped start, but the badges are also now blocked 16:18:14 This is definitely one of the things I want to revisit during the FAD 16:18:17 jwf well you know we've been discussing it on telegram for a bit now. 16:18:19 * dhanesh95 waves goodbye. Moving on to another community meeting. o/ 16:18:31 Maybe we need to let some things go, like two year old tickets. :P 16:18:41 dhanesh95: Ciao! Thanks for coming out! Enjoy your evening. :) 16:18:53 nauticalnexus[m]: Did you have a specific question or something we can help you with here? 16:19:09 jwf: Sayonara! 16:19:15 Sayonara CommOps! 16:19:30 * jwf watches dhanesh95 disappear in cloud of magic dust 16:19:32 :P 16:20:09 bye dhanesh95 16:20:20 jwf: lolol.. :D 16:20:23 bt0_: o/ 16:22:19 jwf: Well unless you know some magical way to get fedora 27 on a PPC G5.. nope! 16:22:37 Hahah, alright :) 16:22:52 In that case, we can go ahead and wrap up here and head back to #fedora-commops. 16:23:01 Last call for open floor, going once… 16:23:10 :P 16:23:10 Going twice… 16:23:20 And thrice again… 16:23:26 Awesome, thanks all for coming out today! 16:23:33 Lots of momentum here, can't wait for next week :) 16:23:38 See you next time! 16:23:39 #endmeeting