13:03:58 <otaylor> #startmeeting Atomic Workstation SIG
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13:04:05 <otaylor> #meetingname atomic_workstation
13:04:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'atomic_workstation'
13:05:41 <otaylor> #topic Agenda
13:06:21 <otaylor> Good morning everybody - anybody have agenda items to propose?
13:06:55 <kalev> morning
13:07:25 <walters> fold this meeting in with the main workstation one?  i have been thinking more about https://pagure.io/workstation-ostree-config/pull-request/74#comment-47627
13:07:42 <walters> and i think it make sense to try to have traditional/classic Workstation be container-oriented too
13:07:46 <otaylor> I apologize for not sending out a meeting reminder or proposed agenda ... will really try to get better about that :-)
13:08:01 <walters> in particular, it makes no sense to ship `gnome-boxes` by default but *not* `oc cluster up` and `podman`
13:09:50 <otaylor> the main workstation one seems to fill up the agenda pretty well, but if we *don't* find things to discuss here related to container development and ostree based  disto images, folding it in would make sense from my perspective too
13:11:26 <otaylor> walters: I think gnome-boxes is a bit of a relic from effort we put in in the pre-container era
13:11:33 <mclasen> otaylor: hey, I think we're an hour early - according to dusty, meeting is in 50 minutes
13:12:59 <otaylor> mclasen: I had a mental assumption that the meeting would be locked to US/Eastern like the ostree meeting, but certainly did not discuss or document that anywhere ... :-(
13:13:09 <otaylor> rr, like the *Workstation* meeting
13:13:12 <mclasen> it seems that it ended up in urc in the calendar
13:13:17 <mclasen> utc even
13:14:04 <otaylor> which calendar?
13:14:37 <mclasen> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/atomic/?tzone=US/Eastern
13:16:29 <otaylor> mclasen: OK, I didn't know it was added there, but in any case, the confusion is certainly all on me
13:17:03 <mclasen> oh, I was confused as well
13:18:36 <otaylor> I have to leave for a car repair appointment at 10:30, but the time doesn't make a big difference in the long run for me - but the Agenda item #1 should be whether anybody has a problem with it staying at 9 eastern, since same as Workstation meeting is definitely a bit less confusing
13:19:09 <kalev> I'd prefer staying at the same time as Workstation meeting
13:21:42 <mclasen> in two weeks, europe is on dst as well, so it will be 9am for us again either way
13:21:49 <mclasen> or not ?
13:21:58 * otaylor adds a recurring event to his personal calendar for the proceeding friday morning to send out a meeting reminder and call for agenda items
13:22:02 <mclasen> timezones, can't win
13:22:25 <otaylor> mclasen: UTC doesn't have DST
13:22:55 <kalev> I think we're on dst next week already
13:22:56 <mclasen> timezones :-(
13:23:07 <kalev> switching on March 25
13:23:09 <otaylor> So if the meeting stays UTC, then in two weeks, kalev will get confused and miss the meeting ;-)
13:23:42 <kalev> I'm fine with whatever the confusion is as long as it's the same as with Workstation meeting :)
13:23:52 * kalev doesn't want two confusions.
13:24:12 <mclasen> maybe if they cancel each other out
13:24:27 <kalev> hah
13:34:06 <otaylor> OK, sent out a last-minute reminder for a meeting in 30 minutes.
13:37:02 <otaylor> #endmeeting