17:00:09 <mboddu> #startmeeting RELENG (2018-11-01)
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17:00:10 <mboddu> #chair nirik tyll sharkcz masta pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk maxamillion mboddu Kellin dustymabe
17:00:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kellin dustymabe masta maxamillion mboddu nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk sharkcz tyll
17:00:10 <mboddu> #topic init process
17:00:23 <nirik> morning
17:00:58 <mboddu> nirik: Morning, how goes?
17:01:34 <nirik> not too bad. Just rebooted my home servers to f29
17:02:09 <mboddu> nirik: You run servers on fedora?
17:02:16 * mboddu prefers CentOS
17:02:20 <nirik> yep. All my home boxes are Fedora. :)
17:03:04 <mboddu> I use Fedora Workstations and VM's everywhere, but my NAS is running CentOS
17:03:29 <mboddu> And other digital ocean droplets also run CentOS :)
17:04:55 <mboddu> nirik: I have couple of things for Open Floor, do you have anything before that?
17:05:23 <nirik> well, lets see... I wanted to ask about the cron updates pushing and one other thing I cannot recall...
17:05:57 <mboddu> nirik: Yes, that is one of the things I wanted to talk
17:06:11 <mboddu> Well, in Open Floor
17:06:49 <nirik> oh, wanted to mention I filed fesco tickets on those two functionality requests...
17:07:01 <nirik> ursa-major and pm_command
17:07:47 <mboddu> nirik: Yup, +1, lets see what happens and good that we dont have to make a decision on them (Well, I dont and I am sorry for you)
17:08:17 <mboddu> #topic Open Floor
17:08:22 <mboddu> First thing first
17:08:39 <mboddu> F29 is out :)
17:08:55 <mboddu> #info Fedora 29 is released and mboddu enabled Cloud and Container composes for F29
17:09:25 <mboddu> #info nirik filed ursa-major and pm_command requests against FESCo
17:09:55 * mboddu trying to remember an issue using ursa-major
17:10:52 <mboddu> But I cannot recollect it
17:12:19 <mboddu> nirik: Now, coming to automated bodhi pushes, I still think its better to go with two different freezes
17:12:53 <nirik> yeah, we can do that for now at least...the coming out of freeze is always likely to be different for updates vs infra
17:14:20 <mboddu> nirik: Yes, and I do agree with changing the time to other than 00:00 UTC, but for now lets use two different freezes and I will update the patch and will enable it next week?
17:14:25 <mboddu> WDYT?
17:14:44 <nirik> sure, or we could enable it tomorrow and I can watch it over the weekend?
17:14:53 <mboddu> Since, next week is my pushduty and I can verify and stuff
17:15:14 <mboddu> nirik: Look at us, trying to take up more work :)
17:15:54 <mboddu> nirik: Well, up to you, but I dont want to put more work on you but that means you have to push manually for the weekend
17:15:59 <mboddu> So, which one you prefer?
17:16:00 <nirik> well, the sooner we can get it I think the less work for us. ;)
17:16:28 <nirik> did we decide to just go with 00:00UTC? or some other time?
17:16:48 <mboddu> nirik: Okay, then I will push it tomorrow and you can check it manually over the weekend
17:17:04 <mboddu> nirik: We haven't decided on a time, we thought of checking with FESCo
17:17:21 <mboddu> (Well, you thought of checking with FESCo and I am okay with it)
17:18:00 <nirik> ok, we will need to coordinate with masta
17:18:14 <nirik> I'm fine with 00:00 for now...
17:18:23 * masta looks in
17:18:26 <nirik> there's pros and cons to different times... we may have to just see how it works
17:18:37 <mboddu> nirik: Cool and I agree
17:19:16 <nirik> masta: we are going to replace all of us with a cron job. ;)
17:19:29 <masta> oh cool, that's happening now?
17:19:42 <masta> will I be the last human to push?
17:19:52 <nirik> you may well be. ;)
17:19:59 <mboddu> masta: I guess so, depends on if we dont encounter any issues
17:20:03 <nirik> I welcome our bot overlords. ;)
17:20:19 <mboddu> .hire bodhi push bot
17:20:19 <zodbot> adamw hires bodhi push bot
17:20:24 <masta> I'll stand down from pushing, go for it.
17:20:36 <mboddu> masta: Cool, thanks
17:20:38 <masta> there is one failed push to fix, but after that... go forit
17:21:25 <mboddu> nirik: ^ I guess I will push it tomorrow morning, first thing and I am thinking of manually changing the cron time to test it and change it back to 00:00 UTC
17:22:05 <mboddu> nirik: And you can look over the weekend
17:22:27 <nirik> mboddu: how about we set the cron for whenever you get in, you can watch it tomorrow and then if it looks ok, switch it to 00:00 and I can watch?
17:22:31 * mboddu hopes its not required and everything works out tomorrow itself
17:23:20 <mboddu> nirik: Yup, exactly :)
17:23:43 <mboddu> masta: ^ So, please dont push updates tomorrow
17:23:58 <masta> right on!
17:24:49 * nirik thanks all of us humans for our service. ;)
17:25:03 <mboddu> #info mboddu will push the automated bodhi pushes patch tomorrow and will watch it run for tomorrow
17:25:10 <masta> hehe
17:25:14 <mboddu> #undo
17:25:14 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by mboddu at 17:25:03 : mboddu will push the automated bodhi pushes patch tomorrow and will watch it run for tomorrow
17:25:34 <mboddu> #info mboddu will push the automated bodhi pushes patch tomorrow and will watch it run for tomorrow and nirik will check it over the weekend
17:25:43 <mboddu> And probably we dont need to worry about it again :)
17:26:17 <mboddu> Yay, no more manual pushes :)
17:27:09 * nirik looks to see which things failed
17:27:51 <masta> I remember this one time texlive was updated and libreoffice too, and I spent like 12 hours signing before being able to push.... and now it's all automated. :-)
17:28:14 <nirik> we sometimes make progress!
17:28:47 <masta> yeah!
17:30:40 <masta> so I guess we just have to watch to documentation now, make sure knowledge is solid in terms of how to fix when things break.
17:31:15 <mboddu> nirik, masta : And bodhi now supports containers, so I have to work on tagging and bodhi releases for that, but it should be done today or by tomorrow
17:31:32 <mboddu> masta: +1
17:32:00 <mboddu> And I have never seen current f28-u-t failure
17:33:44 <nirik> me either. odd ostree one
17:34:16 <mboddu> nirik: Yes, ostree also new for me
17:36:53 <mboddu> Anyway, I guess thats all I have
17:40:35 <mboddu> Anybody got anything else?
17:40:55 <mboddu> nirik: I ordered oneplus 6t today :)
17:41:47 <nirik> cool. ;) I have considered it, but I am not buying any new gadgets for now...
17:42:35 <mboddu> nirik: Okay, how much did you play with the Tizen phone?
17:43:13 <nirik> a bit, but I haven't tried developing anything on it.
17:44:59 <mboddu> nirik: Okay
17:47:15 <mboddu> Okay, if nothing, I will close this meeting in 5 min
17:51:09 <mboddu> Okay, thanks everyone for joining
17:51:12 <mboddu> #endmeeting