13:06:04 <mcatanzaro> #startmeeting workstation_wg
13:06:05 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Apr 22 13:06:04 2019 UTC.
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13:06:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg'
13:06:11 <mcatanzaro> #meetingname Workstation WG
13:06:11 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg'
13:06:18 <petersen> mcatanzaro: thanks
13:06:28 * mcatanzaro wonders if he got the commands backwards
13:06:31 <mcatanzaro> #topic Roll call
13:06:34 <mcatanzaro> .hello catanzaro
13:06:34 <zodbot> mcatanzaro: catanzaro 'Michael Catanzaro' <mcatanzaro@gnome.org>
13:06:50 <petersen> .hello2
13:06:51 <zodbot> petersen: petersen 'Jens Petersen' <petersen@redhat.com>
13:07:15 <mcatanzaro> I see we have cschalle... do we have ryanlerch?
13:07:23 * cschalle hi
13:07:26 <mcatanzaro> I see stickster is at least in the room
13:08:47 <bcotton> .hello2
13:08:48 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
13:09:33 * stickster here, is anyone else?
13:10:10 <mcatanzaro> Well we're up to four WG (plus Ben), need one more for quorum
13:11:06 <cschalle> hmm, so maybe no meeting today then
13:11:09 <mcatanzaro> mclasen and kalev are not online at all
13:11:35 <mcatanzaro> owen is on GIMPNet but probably just idling; he sent a mail to call this meeting just last night though
13:11:55 <petersen> Yeah
13:13:18 <petersen> Some people may be away for Easter
13:15:37 <otaylor> Sorry to be late - kid drop off went slowly this morning (electrical trolley lines out of service, roads blocked with depowered trolleybuses)
13:16:16 <mcatanzaro> Trolleys sound fun
13:16:26 <mcatanzaro> Anyway, otaylor makes quorum
13:17:06 <petersen> Just about? :)
13:17:15 <mcatanzaro> And otaylor is today's scheduled chair (and final scheduled chair, the schedule ends today)... want to take over? I liked your email proposal to discuss schedule, meeting time, WG membership after two r esignations...
13:17:38 <mcatanzaro> Oh crap, I miscounted didn't I
13:17:40 <mcatanzaro> We're onlyfour
13:18:13 <mcatanzaro> Yeah I miscounted, I don't think we're going to make quorum today
13:18:22 <petersen> ah no sorry stickster replied :)
13:18:28 <mcatanzaro> stickster! Yes!
13:18:31 <mcatanzaro> That's five
13:18:34 <mcatanzaro> OK, phew :P
13:18:48 <petersen> my bad
13:19:23 <stickster> The EU holiday is the only reason I can be here today... all the people I'd be talking to right now are not working :-)
13:20:25 * mcatanzaro wonders if "Monday after Easter" is really a holiday
13:20:40 <mcatanzaro> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_the_European_Union <-- so it is
13:21:20 <mcatanzaro> And all the holidays are weird, apparently different cultures have different holidays
13:21:30 <mcatanzaro> "Maundy Thursday" Thursday before Easter...
13:22:41 * stickster looks at clock and wonders if there's an agenda
13:23:06 <otaylor> sorry for lack of preparedness here -
13:23:06 <mcatanzaro> I think we may have briefly lost otaylor :)
13:23:09 <otaylor> https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting
13:23:35 <mcatanzaro> Default disk partitioning can wait until the next meeting
13:23:51 <otaylor> is there anything we need to discuss about mode setting? It seems that was heavily discussed on list
13:23:55 <stickster> Ah, I see above. Well, on the note of schedule/meeting time/membership... I had mentioned in an email to some members (I don't think it was on list) the idea of nominating langdon for the WG
13:24:30 <stickster> I can hold that for later in the meeting if needed.
13:24:41 <mcatanzaro> I didn't follow the nomodeset conversation on list so I don't know what the status there is, but surely it's been handled by adamw and the blocker bug process
13:24:53 <mcatanzaro> schedule/meeting time/membership seems like most important agenda item for now?
13:25:45 * langdon looks around
13:26:00 <otaylor> yeah - but I'm not entirely sure we can resolve the meeting time issue now
13:26:57 <bcotton> mcatanzaro: the modesetting issue hasn't really been resolved. we're dealing with specific bugs through the blocker process, but we'd like more clarity on whether or not the criterion should continue to exist and in what form
13:26:58 <stickster> Let's instead think about membership without regard to fixing the schedule.
13:27:17 <petersen> yes
13:27:20 <stickster> It's not clear whether the schedule is in desperate need of change in the case of moving members around
13:27:26 <mcatanzaro> Meeting time probably has to wait until we have replenished our membership, of course, but we can of course try to find a time that works for our current members
13:27:40 <otaylor> to clarify one thing-  I didn't have a clear sense - did you have a preference between 13:00 Monday or 12:00 Monday - sounds like neither was your favorite :-)
13:27:47 <stickster> mcatanzaro: Are other people chaired here?
13:27:55 <otaylor> (question for mcatanzaro)
13:27:56 <mcatanzaro> otaylor, the rest of us can't see your poll results, I fear, so we don't know whether dropping two members makes it easier to find a time that works for everyone
13:28:01 <stickster> i.e. #chair nick1 nick2 nick3
13:28:08 <mcatanzaro> Oh so, sorry
13:28:12 <otaylor> let me see if there's a public link
13:28:27 <mcatanzaro> #chair otaylor stickster petersen bcotton langdon cschalle
13:28:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: bcotton cschalle langdon mcatanzaro otaylor petersen stickster
13:28:30 * mcatanzaro forgot
13:28:33 <stickster> \o/ thanks
13:28:34 <otaylor> http://whenisgood.net/7gh3jsg/results/qsbi72b - can people see that?
13:28:41 <mcatanzaro> *Oh no