16:03:34 <mboddu> #startmeeting RELENG (2019-05-16)
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16:03:34 <mboddu> #meetingname releng
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16:03:34 <mboddu> #chair nirik tyll sharkcz masta pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk maxamillion mboddu dustymabe ksinny jednorozec
16:03:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jednorozec ksinny masta maxamillion mboddu nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk sharkcz tyll
16:03:34 <mboddu> #topic init process
16:04:46 <nirik> morning
16:04:58 <mboddu> nirik: Morning, how goes?
16:06:10 <nirik> it goes.
16:06:40 <bcotton> .hello2
16:06:43 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
16:07:14 <mboddu> Okay, lets get started
16:07:30 <mboddu> I want to bring up couple of quick things
16:07:37 <mboddu> #topic compose-tracker
16:09:18 <mboddu> nirik: In our taiga grooming today, we talked about this and dustymabe, jednorozec and I are interested in going over the deployment process, so when do you think you have cycles to do this and can we have a screen share session for our learning experience? https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7770
16:09:18 <nirik> which is this? the failed composes thing?
16:09:30 <mboddu> nirik: ^^ yes
16:09:38 <nirik> cool. sure.
16:09:46 <nirik> perhaps friday after fesco meeting?
16:09:51 <mizdebsk> i can help with compose-tracker if needed; i need some more practice with openshift
16:10:37 <mboddu> mizdebsk: Awesome
16:10:58 <nirik> hopefully it shouldn't be too complex an app :)
16:11:13 <mboddu> nirik: So, can I create a meeting for this along with all the folks?
16:11:23 <mboddu> After your FESCo meeting
16:11:38 <nirik> sure I guess.
16:11:53 <nirik> I just got in so I haven't seen todays fires, but hopefully friday will be quiet.
16:12:23 <mboddu> nirik: Okay, we can reschedule it if anything comes up
16:12:31 <nirik> sure, sounds good.
16:13:07 <mboddu> nirik: Also, we are working on porting it to fedora-messaging, but for now it works on fedmsg, so we planned to deploy it with fedmsg for now and change it to fedora-messaging later on
16:13:34 <mboddu> I have a PR waiting to get merged, and couple of questions to get answered
16:13:39 <nirik> ok.
16:14:30 <mboddu> #info We are planning to deploy compose-tracker on Friday and nirik will have a screen share session to help us understand how the deployment works in fedora infra's openshift
16:14:58 <mboddu> #topic #7718 The FTBFS cleanup policy is not happening
16:15:03 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7718
16:15:14 <mboddu> nirik: I think you completed this request, can I close this?
16:16:23 <nirik> I still need to put them in as cron jobs... ;(
16:16:44 <nirik> so, leave it for now, I will try and get that this week.
16:17:08 <mboddu> nirik: Okay, let me know if you need any help
16:17:38 <mboddu> #info nirik is planning to close this sometime this week, the only thing remaining is put it in a cron job
16:17:41 <nirik> happy to have help if you want to work on it. ;) Just adding those to ansible and cron jobs
16:18:48 <mboddu> nirik: Okay, that should be easy
16:19:05 <mboddu> #topic #8176 Asking for agreement for a new micro-service Message-Tagging-Service
16:19:49 <mboddu> nirik: I am thinking of closing this, have you heard anything lately about this?
16:20:00 <nirik> I haven't... there's an infra ticket too.
16:20:25 * mboddu bbiab, hiccups, need some water
16:20:33 <nirik> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7563
16:21:10 <nirik> we should probibly ping there and ask what the status is
16:23:02 * mboddu is back
16:23:17 <mboddu> nirik: You ping on infra ticket and I will ping in releng ticket ;)
16:23:38 <nirik> ha. sure, if you like
16:23:55 <mboddu> nirik: Also, I am not sure how much of a help MTS provides us
16:24:11 <mboddu> But, better to check
16:24:46 <nirik> hard to say... it could...
16:24:52 <mboddu> Yup
16:25:37 <mboddu> #info There is no status update on this recently, so we decided to ping in the ticket to get an update.
16:25:52 <mboddu> #topic #7288 Request permissions to untag packages
16:25:58 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7288
16:26:14 <mboddu> mizdebsk: Do you think is there an easy way to achieve this?
16:26:32 * mizdebsk reads the ticket
16:26:55 <mizdebsk> yes, this is configurable with hub policy
16:26:55 <mboddu> mizdebsk is my go-to guy for koji-hub policy changes :)
16:26:58 * nirik also reads since I don't recall what this was about
16:27:08 <mizdebsk> so should be easily doable
16:28:41 <nirik> I'm fine with a new group or whatever, but we need to avoid people in general untagging things that have already gone out in a rawhide, etc.
16:28:42 <mboddu> mizdebsk: Just so you know, he/she should be only allowed to untag the builds in rawhide if they are not shipped yet and only the builds that are built by them
16:28:54 <mboddu> nirik: Exactly
16:29:02 <nirik> actually there's a work around here I think...
16:29:55 <nirik> say foo-1.2-1.fc31 is broken, koji tag-pkg f31-pending foo-1.1-1.fc31, it would be signed again (if not already) and then tagged into f31 and be used since it's last tagged right?
16:30:05 <mizdebsk> the "if not shipped" part will need to be evaluated by the person untagging builds
16:30:32 <mizdebsk> but note that ordinary users can already re-tag older builds without checking anything, which will have similar effects to untagging
16:31:19 <mboddu> I guess both have certain unnecessary effects
16:34:13 <mboddu> I think we need some sort of automagic - if a maintainer feels the build is broken, he will create a ticket or something which should be automatically processed and untag the build or retag the last build before it
16:35:26 <nirik> There's one case where the retagging older build won't work... if it's the initial build of something... but I think thats pretty rare.
16:35:53 <mizdebsk> gating would solve much of the problem with untagging
16:36:04 <nirik> yeah
16:36:09 <mboddu> mizdebsk: True
16:36:19 <mizdebsk> it would prevent some of broken builds in the first place; and bodhi enablement allows to submit buildroot overrides for rawhide
16:36:23 <nirik> I'm afraid if we document/tell people about retagging old builds it would get misused.
16:36:44 <nirik> so, perhaps we tell tibbs about this for now and wait for gating otherwise.
16:40:36 <mboddu> nirik: I think we should not tell them and say gating would solve most of these issues
16:41:39 <nirik> sure in general. I'm fine mentioning to a few provenpackagers that they can retag.
16:42:36 <mboddu> nirik: Yeah, just being careful that it wont be spread around and get misused
16:42:50 <nirik> sure
16:44:08 <mboddu> #info There isn't a good way to solve this one, but rawhide gating should solve help the maintainers a lot in these cases.
16:45:39 <mboddu> #topic Open Floor
16:45:55 <mboddu> Anyone has anything to share?
16:46:11 <sharkcz> hi, have one little thing
16:46:32 <sharkcz> I've updated puiterwijk's check_metalink, so it works again :-)
16:46:48 <sharkcz> adds checks for modular repos and more
16:47:09 <nirik> oh nice.
16:48:15 <sharkcz> it should avoid the broken repos (wrong url in mirrormanager, etc) we see sometimes
16:48:48 <mboddu> sharkcz++
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16:48:54 <mboddu> Thanks sharkcz
16:49:02 <sharkcz> mboddu: np :-)
16:49:12 <puiterwijk> sharkcz: merged that. Thanks!
16:49:15 <puiterwijk> sharkcz++
16:49:15 <zodbot> puiterwijk: Karma for sharkcz changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
16:49:18 <sharkcz> puiterwijk: yup, thx
16:49:53 <mboddu> #info sharkcz updated the check_metalink and added checks for modular repos as well
16:50:33 <mboddu> sharkcz: So, how's alt arch doing?
16:50:55 <sharkcz> mboddu: no problems, except the occasional issues with s390x
16:51:44 <sharkcz> the srpm unpacking and sometimes images are broken, but today it (=cloud) went OK
16:52:14 <mboddu> sharkcz: I have been asking nirik for our own s390x machine, but he is neglecting my requests :P
16:52:49 <mboddu> #info Everything seems to be fine on alternate arches, except for some occasional s390x issues
16:52:50 <sharkcz> hopefully some time we will :-)
16:53:02 <nirik> ha.
16:53:19 <nirik> I pinged on kvm s390x again the other day, no reply...
16:53:33 <nirik> I can ping on tthe ticket too
16:53:56 <mboddu> nirik: Do you know the name of the person who is supposed to work on it?
16:54:26 <nirik> yep. I don't know that I want to name people in public that may not want attention tho
16:54:28 <mboddu> If he is from Westford office, I can try to find him and ask about it
16:55:03 <mboddu> nirik: Sure, you can ping me on internal irc
16:56:29 <nirik> hes remote I guess.
16:57:18 <mboddu> Then I am not of much help
16:57:52 <mboddu> Anything else before I close this meeting then?
16:58:00 <sharkcz> nope
16:58:18 * mboddu waits a min before closing the meeting
16:59:35 <mboddu> Okay, thanks everyone for joining
16:59:39 <mboddu> See you all next week
16:59:41 <mboddu> #endmeeting