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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-02-04)
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Meeting started by aday at 13:26:31 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-02-07/workstation.2020-02-07-13.26.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* rollcall  (aday, 13:26:32)
  * present: cmurf, tpopela, jens, kalev, ngompa, owen, mcatanzaro,
    langdon  (aday, 13:26:34)
  * regrets: aday  (aday, 13:26:36)
  * missing: mclasen  (aday, 13:26:38)

* earlyoom and resource management discussion  (aday, 13:26:42)
  * Background is https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/119  (aday,
    13:26:44)
  * We meet with Facebook's Tejun Heo and Dan Schatzberg to discuss
    oomd. They leave.  (aday, 13:26:46)
  * Neal recommends we proceed with earlyoom for F32. Future proposals
    involving oomd/systemd are interesting but still to far in the
    future for us to wait for.  (aday, 13:26:48)
  * Tomas not certain oomd will work well without machine-specific
    configuration. Michael thinks it should work.  (aday, 13:26:51)
  * Owen and Michael suggest we should experiment with setting MemoryLow
    configuration for mutter.  (aday, 13:26:54)
  * Chris wants to proceed for F32, but worries earlyoom isn't
    aggressive enough. Most users will reach for the power button before
    (RAM + swap) reaches 90% full and earlyoom kicks in.  (aday,
    13:26:57)
  * Owen suggests this requires mention in the release notes, especially
    noting that applications will be killed early for users without
    swap.  (aday, 13:27:02)
  * Michael again proposes F33 instead of F32, but OK with implementing
    it right away either way. (F32 branches next week.)  (aday,
    13:27:05)
  * Michael concerned about how to remove earlyoomd in a future distro
    update if we want to switch to something else. Neal proposes
    multiple solutions.  (aday, 13:27:08)
  * AGREED: Proceed with earlyoom for F32.  (aday, 13:27:11)
  * ACTION: Chris to change Fedora presets and update comps. Ensure
    earlyoom gets installed during distro upgrades with Supplements:
    fedora-release-workstation.  (aday, 13:27:13)
  * The WG discusses upgrades, and appropriate use of rawhide to test
    changes.  (aday, 13:27:16)

Meeting ended at 13:27:20 UTC.




Action Items
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* Chris to change Fedora presets and update comps. Ensure earlyoom gets
  installed during distro upgrades with Supplements:
  fedora-release-workstation.




Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * Chris to change Fedora presets and update comps. Ensure earlyoom
    gets installed during distro upgrades with Supplements:
    fedora-release-workstation.




People Present (lines said)
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* aday (25)
* zodbot (7)
* cmurf (0)




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