01:52:20 #startmeeting Workstation WG (2020-10-13) 01:52:20 Meeting started Wed Oct 14 01:52:20 2020 UTC. 01:52:20 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 01:52:20 The chair is cmurf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:52:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:52:20 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2020-10-13)' 01:52:22 #meetingname workstation 01:52:22 The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 01:52:24 #chair cmurf 01:52:24 Current chairs: cmurf 01:52:48 #topic Rollcall 01:52:50 #info present: mclasen, tpopela, aday, cmurf, kalev, jens, mcatanzaro, otaylor, neal 01:52:52 #info regrets wg members: langdon 01:52:54 #info present guests: zac, feborges 01:52:56 #topic Approve 6 Oct minutes 01:52:58 https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-10-07-04.38.log.html 01:53:00 #agreed Approved - no objections 01:53:02 #topic Announcements 01:53:04 We are in freeze for F33. 01:53:06 #topic Follow-ups & Status reports: 01:53:08 #info current blocker bugs and freeze exceptions 01:53:10 #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/33/final/buglist 01:53:12 Chris: uncertain that we'll get through go/no-go for F33 on Thursday. It's likely that F33 will slip. 01:53:14 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1883609 01:53:16 we don't know the scope of the problem 01:53:18 There are some challenges due to the lack of transparency around shim. 01:53:20 #topic Removing Cheese from the default installation for Fedora 33 Workstation #193 01:53:22 https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/193 01:53:24 tpopela managed to get in contact with Wim Taymans and he made some fixes (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1884260#c9) that resulted in https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-cb78ff4ca5. 01:53:26 #topic Enable power-profiles-daemon by default #191 01:53:28 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/191 01:53:30 #agreed We should enable power-profiles-daemon in F34 - no objections 01:53:32 #topic Open Floor 01:53:34 #topic nm-connection-editor in Silverblue 01:53:36 #link https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/88 01:53:38 Question about why nm-connection-editor isn't included in silverblue, like it is in workstation? 01:53:40 Anaconda depends on it? And Anaconda gets installed in workstation. Why? 01:53:42 Installation works by doing a copy of the entire live image to the destination, including the installer. 01:53:44 It's currently installed but hidden in workstation. Back in F31 it popped up and we asked them to hide it. 01:53:46 GNOME no longer depends on nm-connection-editor - the goal being to allow it to be instalable and visable. 01:53:48 Kalev: suggests to add nm-connection-editor back to F33. 01:53:50 Owen: we shouldn't put something in silverblue just because it's in workstation. 01:53:52 Neal: missing features should be added to gnome-control-center, if people need to install nm-connection-editor 01:53:54 Owen & Matthias: it's fine to have optional tools for advanced features 01:53:56 Some oddities around gnome-control-center launching nm-connection-editor, which is ordinarily hidden 01:53:58 Kalev proposes to add a recommends from gnome-control-center to nm-connection-editor for F33 - this will add nm-c-e to silverblue and give us a single mechanism to remove it in the future. 01:55:29 #endmeeting