16:01:44 <coremodule> #startmeeting Fedora ARM Working Group Meeting
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16:01:44 <coremodule> #chair pwhalen pbrobinson jlinton jforbes coremodule
16:01:44 <coremodule> #topic roll call
16:01:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: coremodule jforbes jlinton pbrobinson pwhalen
16:01:52 <coremodule> Hi everyone, who is around today?
16:02:05 * jlinton waves
16:05:06 <pboy> .hi
16:05:07 <zodbot> pboy: pboy 'Peter Boy' <pboy@uni-bremen.de>
16:05:14 <jforbes> morning
16:05:26 <coremodule> hi everyone, let's see what we can get done today
16:05:34 <coremodule> #topic 1) ==== Stable Releases ====
16:05:34 <coremodule> #info Fedora-Cloud-39-20240116.0
16:05:34 <coremodule> #link https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=39&build=Fedora-Cloud-39-20240116.0&groupid=5
16:05:38 <coremodule> Anything new for F39?
16:05:41 <coremodule> I have nothing personally
16:05:57 <pboy> Regarding the server installation issue
16:06:24 <pboy> I added info to the open bug and will create a bug report against LVM
16:06:45 <pboy> I'm surfe LVM is he culprit
16:06:55 <pboy> surfe -> sure
16:07:32 <coremodule> thanks pboy, when you create the bug report, will you share it in the fedora-arm channel and ping me?
16:07:43 <pboy> will do
16:07:50 <coremodule> thanks pboy
16:08:27 <coremodule> #topic 2) ==== Kernel Status ====
16:08:28 <coremodule> #info F38 kernel-6.6.12-100.fc38
16:08:28 <coremodule> #info https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2345850
16:08:28 <coremodule> #info F39 kernel-6.6.12-200.fc39
16:08:28 <coremodule> #link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2345851
16:08:29 <coremodule> #info Rawhide kernel-6.8.0-0.rc0.20240113git052d534373b7.6.fc40
16:08:30 <coremodule> #link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2345706
16:08:57 <coremodule> onto kernel status, I saw a new rawhide kernel building, but didn't link it here.
16:09:07 <coremodule> jforbes, I believe there is a kernel test week next week?
16:09:24 <jforbes> Nothing of major interest yet. The 6.8 merge window is paused because Linus has no power or internet. 6.7.1 doesn't have much queued, and 6.6.12 was really just a couple of small fixes
16:09:28 <jlinton> There has been some interest from renesas in adding support for their boards.
16:09:46 <jforbes> Next week is kernel 6.7 test week, and I am looking forward to results on that
16:10:04 <jforbes> jlinton: upstream already?
16:10:12 <jlinton> Yes, AFAIK much of it.
16:10:20 <jlinton> I spoke to their guy last week and he opened a bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2257913
16:10:25 <pboy> jlinton wha is renesas?
16:10:58 <jlinton> and I've given him pointers for how to do the -ark changes/doc's/etc so we aren't doing it.
16:11:00 <jlinton> https://www.renesas.com/us/en
16:11:27 <pboy> OK thanks
16:11:51 <jforbes> okay. I am happy to get things flipped on if they are upstream
16:12:58 <coremodule> Thanks for the update jforbes
16:13:11 <coremodule> #info 6.7 Kernel test week is next week
16:14:00 <coremodule> #topic 3) ==== Bootloader Status ====
16:14:00 <coremodule> #info uboot-tools-2024.01-1.fc40
16:14:00 <coremodule> #link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2342531
16:14:00 <coremodule> #info uboot-tools-2023.07-3.fc39
16:14:00 <coremodule> #link https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2311866
16:14:09 <coremodule> I don't think anything has changed with uboot since last week
16:15:30 <coremodule> #topic 4) ==== Fedora Rawhide status ===
16:15:30 <coremodule> #info OpenQA Testing Fedora-Rawhide-20240115.n.0
16:15:30 <coremodule> #info https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=Rawhide&build=Fedora-Rawhide-20240115.n.0&groupid=5
16:16:20 <coremodule> anything for rawhide?
16:17:54 <coremodule> #topic 5) ==== Open Floor ====
16:18:03 <coremodule> alright, quick meeting, open floor time!
16:18:20 <pboy> Last year we spoke about adding ARM documentation to the 'official' docs site, either by migrating all oder part of the wiki pages to docs or by creating an independent new docs.
16:18:32 <pboy> Is it soemting for open floor?
16:18:39 <coremodule> yes! go ahead pboy
16:19:01 <pboy> It would really make ARM more visiable and info easier to find.
16:19:12 <pboy> I could do some work, but it has to be a ARM SIG project, I think.
16:19:43 <pboy> There were several discussion proviously, but ARM SIG was
16:20:04 <jlinton> I can understand some board specific doc's can you explain what would be different vs the normal fedora documentation?
16:20:11 <pboy> has been rather 'reserved' so far
16:20:45 <pboy> Yeah, e....g board info, install documentation, etc.
16:21:05 <pboy> Currently everything is in WIK pages, and these are hard to find.
16:21:41 <jlinton> Right and most of it reflects standards compliance issues which are being worked around in some manner.
16:21:43 <pboy> And we have anaricle in Quick docs, which doubles some wiki infomation, but is too often not in synd
16:22:08 <jlinton> ex: the x13s, which should be the same as installing on an x86 laptop, but isn't for... reasons.
16:22:24 <coremodule> I am all for this. pboy, if you get time, can you update the iot docs github page with what you think needs to be changed?
16:22:26 <coremodule> #link https://github.com/fedora-iot/iot-docs
16:22:54 <pboy> I'll have a look at it.
16:23:45 <pboy> But basically I think about an own docs page, which is frelevant for desktop users, too (and for server, of course  :-=  )
16:24:49 <pboy> I tried to make ARM more visible by
16:25:18 <pboy> by a ARM box at the docs start page https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/arm-sbc/
16:25:54 <pboy> which points to the wiki. But it is unsufficient, I think
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16:26:39 <coremodule> pboy, I gave you the wrong link, sorry. I was thinking you were talking about IoT and was very confused. I see now.
16:27:31 <coremodule> pboy, have you seen this?
16:27:31 <coremodule> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/installation/on-sbc/
16:27:51 <pboy> Yes, it's written by me  :-)
16:29:30 <coremodule> ah, I see that. This doesn't accomplish what you're talking about? Could it be linked from the start page?
16:29:55 <pboy> I think, it is rather server specific.
16:30:54 <coremodule> yes, okay. so you are thinking more of a generic ARM install guide?
16:30:56 <pboy> We need at least a general installation and update documentation, as it is in the ARM wiki, and a documentation about supported boards, which is on the wiki ,too
16:31:28 <pboy> These are quite stable parts.
16:31:38 <coremodule> yes, I agree
16:31:57 <pboy> And use the wiki for more constandly changing parts (because easiier to manage)
16:33:21 <coremodule> im trying to find where we keep track of tickets specific to ARM docs. we do it for IoT, but I'm thinking we should have a specific ARM Docs pagure or github so we can file tickets there
16:33:43 <pboy> Indeed.
16:34:36 <coremodule> I will look into this and create it if it doesn't exist. I will tag you in the Fedora-ARM channel when I do and we can add tickets there.
16:35:03 <pboy> If there is general agreement to go to docs, I can contribute a rough draft for further disuccsions
16:35:15 <pboy> kind of a mock
16:36:25 <coremodule> yes, i think that would be a great idea. we could work off that moving forward.
16:36:44 <pboy> OK, need about 14 days
16:37:02 <coremodule> no problem, take as much time as you need.
16:38:33 <coremodule> thanks for attending everyone, closing in 5
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16:38:39 <coremodule> #endmeeting