14:00:19 #startmeeting modularity_wg 14:00:19 Meeting started Tue Aug 22 14:00:19 2017 UTC. The chair is nils. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:00:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:00:19 The meeting name has been set to 'modularity_wg' 14:00:19 #meetingtopic Meeting of the Modularity Working Group (once every two weeks) 14:00:19 #chair dgilmore langdon mikedep333 tflink 14:00:19 Current chairs: dgilmore langdon mikedep333 nils tflink 14:00:31 #topic Roll Call 14:00:37 .hello nphilipp 14:00:38 nils: nphilipp 'Nils Philippsen' 14:01:04 .hello2 14:01:05 jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' 14:01:31 .hello2 14:01:32 langdon: langdon 'Langdon White' 14:01:58 .hello2 14:01:59 karsten: karsten 'Karsten Hopp' 14:02:44 .hello tflink 14:02:45 tflink: tflink 'Tim Flink' 14:02:58 #topic Agenda 14:03:11 And... the agenda is empty! 14:03:17 :) 14:03:20 Does anyone want to add something? 14:03:49 I have a question, but not really an agenda topic 14:03:58 .hello asamalik 14:03:59 asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' 14:04:45 Well, crickets, so... 14:04:48 #topic Open Floor 14:04:51 I was kinda expecting some people to show up with questions.. Maybe just open floor? 14:04:57 Ha 14:05:08 * asamalik is getting distracted :/ 14:05:11 jkurik, so what's up? 14:05:12 need few minutes 14:05:18 I was asked to push forward work on infrastructure for Fedora Modularity. 14:05:28 asamalik, I guess we'll be done by then :P 14:05:48 Unfortunatelly I do not have track of what is currently done and what needs to be done 14:06:32 is there any tracking for infrastructure ? 14:07:13 Are the tasks in Taiga also for infrastructure ? 14:07:16 Almost entirely being managed by the factory folks.. Threebean would be the better consult 14:07:39 langdon: ok, that is the answer :-) thanks 14:08:16 So.. We want it faster too but aren't the keepers 14:08:30 and, sidenote, we don't use Taiga anymore 14:08:39 The one thing we need to follow up on that they aren't is copr support for mofules 14:08:41 perhaps we should delete our board there? langdon? 14:08:55 Asamalik do you know anything ^^ 14:09:00 .hello ttomecek 14:09:01 ttomecek: ttomecek 'Tomas Tomecek' 14:09:10 Nils yeah.. We should or at least put a noticr 14:09:13 * dgilmore is kinda here, in another meeting also 14:10:14 langdon, yeah 14:10:32 langdon, I talked to Copr guys and we agreed they will wait for us to produce the compose 14:10:37 so they can consume it for dependencies 14:11:05 they don't plan to do anything before beta freeze, as: 14:11:19 1) they need DNF we are going to produce 14:11:29 2) they need compose we are going to produce 14:11:35 3) it's a service on the side, so it's fine 14:12:00 and we is also DNF, Factory... the whole modularity project 14:12:22 in the module creation process i recommend it as how to do "scratch builds" so .. its not "just" on the side 14:12:55 right, but they are basically blocked by the modular release, so.. not sure 14:12:58 do we need to revisit? 14:13:09 but.. as for fedora infra, i assume you mean it isn't effected by infra freezes 14:13:28 i figured they were blocked.. but.. is the code all done? 14:13:31 exactly that, yeah... just didn't know a better formulation 14:13:43 langdon, yeah 14:14:06 they can build modules now, but it gets build against normal fedora I guess... and the deps won't work... 14:14:40 ok.. im ok with that answer.. i just want to be sure they have a plan to "drop everything" as soon as we can give them stuff and deploy it 14:14:51 but they use MBS, and they can submit a modulemd... 14:15:00 but that isn't in production 14:15:44 ah, yeah, right... they also need the DNF 14:16:09 because they need to install it on the builders, on a traditional Fedora system 14:16:18 so they want it in fedora 14:16:25 but our current Boltron DNF is just in boltron 14:16:35 so when we get then DNF, they can go production 14:16:51 and when we give them composes, they can build on the right buildroot 14:17:13 ok .. do we need any more of a plan with them? or just let it be until our side is available? 14:17:46 we agreed to just let it go until we are done.. 14:17:59 ok 14:18:04 is geppetto herE? 14:18:07 here even? 14:18:11 maybe 14:18:12 ha 14:18:32 i was wondering if you can get your hacked up f27-modular-preview in https://hub.docker.com/r/modularitycontainers/ 14:18:45 get it in how? 14:18:55 create a new repo, docker push 14:19:03 Ok, yeh 14:19:04 maybe f27-modular-rawhide 14:19:17 and then we can override it when we have real builds 14:19:26 It's still f26 data … just with the latest f27 dnf 14:19:42 what are the changes in dnf? 14:19:45 that's ok i think ? 14:19:59 langdon, when we get the installer done, we can do a real image.. and if DNF guys can push their stuff into dist git, even some different branch, contyk can use it for Platform 14:20:12 langdon, the problem is... the installer currently fails on s390x 14:20:16 :/ 14:20:20 ttomecek: for all of them, you'd need to check upstream … biggest one in today's update is the new naming stuff. 14:20:33 karsten, any progress with the installer? 14:21:07 geppetto, awesome, I'm gonna ask Martin about detail 14:21:09 and, karsten have you talked to jwb? 14:21:44 langdon, and since we are going to start with builds against bootstrap, we can add new content very quickly 14:21:48 geppetto: this " that's ok i think ?" was to you 14:22:05 asamalik: yep.. as soon as we have it.. ill believe it :) 14:22:28 langdon: Ok, just mention it due to the proposed name 14:22:35 langdon, the dependency report tooling can take care about runtime dependencies, so we don't have the problems we had with Boltron... https://github.com/fedora-modularity/dependency-report 14:22:39 langdon, ha, yeah... :) 14:23:30 geppetto: yeah.. i hear ya.. but, we can just put a note on the docker hub description or something.. i mean it is rawhide.. so.. 14:24:13 any more questions for open floor? i think that was all of mine :) 14:24:43 just about the installer, but karsten doesn't seem to be here :( 14:25:16 I'm here, I just was busy in another window 14:26:53 anaconda ist still failing to build. glib-compile-resources aborts even when compiled with the latest packages. 14:27:19 karsten: did you talk to jwb? 14:27:22 for help? 14:27:30 langdon: you've pointed me at Samantha, not at jwb 14:27:42 so that's who I've mailed 14:27:46 karsten: both :) jwb is all about multi-arch 14:28:02 you can find him on irc usally pretty quickly 14:28:05 ok, I'll send another mail 14:28:13 or that 14:28:45 cool 14:30:01 cool! 14:33:44 anybody got anymore? 14:34:29 I'm good 14:34:30 langdon, I'm not sure about next meeting with Flock, are there any followup meetings that will keep people away? 14:35:27 nils: flock meeting would be office hours anyway.. 14:35:40 langdon, I meant the week after Flock 14:35:42 would you prefer to cancel? 14:35:49 ohh.. not sure.. let me look 14:36:28 i dont have any conflicts 14:36:44 ok 14:37:24 although sept 4 (the day before the meeting) is a us holiday.. if that matters 14:37:55 and canada and turkey to be more complete :) 14:37:55 langdon, not if someone doesn't tack some PTO on 14:38:39 ok.. let's close this down? 14:38:58 yup 14:39:02 thanks everybody! 14:39:07 #endmeeting