14:05:28 <langdon> #startmeeting modularity_wg
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14:05:48 <langdon> #chair dgilmore tflink sgallagh contyk
14:05:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: contyk dgilmore langdon sgallagh tflink
14:05:58 <tflink> .hello2
14:05:59 <zodbot> tflink: tflink 'Tim Flink' <tflink@redhat.com>
14:06:01 <langdon> #topic Roll Call
14:06:02 <sgallagh> .hello2
14:06:05 <zodbot> sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' <sgallagh@redhat.com>
14:06:06 <langdon> .hello2
14:06:08 <zodbot> langdon: langdon 'Langdon White' <langdon@redhat.com>
14:06:26 <dgilmore> hi
14:06:37 <dgilmore> not totally here
14:06:55 <langdon> #topic agenda
14:07:09 <langdon> i propose just a bit of open floor as there is nothing in the issue tracker..
14:07:35 <contyk> .hello psabata
14:07:36 <zodbot> contyk: psabata 'Petr Šabata' <psabata@redhat.com>
14:07:51 <contyk> totally forgot we have it today
14:07:54 <sgallagh> I wanted to ask about the timeline for Ursa Major in Fedora. I think we informally were hearing F30?
14:08:16 <dgilmore> langdon: perhaps formulate flock workshop more?
14:08:23 <contyk> that would be my expectations, sgallagh
14:08:37 <contyk> but we don't have bowlofeggs or threebean today
14:08:42 <sgallagh> dgilmore: Which workshop? I think there were multiple specified?
14:08:47 <langdon> dgilmore: did we propose a workshop?
14:08:50 <sgallagh> s/specified/requested/
14:08:56 <sgallagh> langdon: I put one in at least
14:08:57 <dgilmore> langdon: there was one
14:09:08 <dgilmore> it was very vague
14:09:11 * langdon goes to look
14:09:22 <sgallagh> looking up the number
14:09:45 <sgallagh> https://pagure.io/flock/issue/14
14:10:07 <sgallagh> Yeah, I submitted it before the template worked and I meant to go back and expand on it...
14:10:37 <sgallagh> The idea was to have a mini-hackfest where interested persons could get hands-on help with modularizing their packages.
14:10:52 <sgallagh> s/persons/packagers/
14:10:55 <langdon> sorry.. had a visitor
14:11:35 <contyk> sgallagh: are packagers not persons? :)
14:11:45 <sgallagh> contyk: They are a proper subset thereof
14:11:54 <langdon> they are people!
14:12:31 <contyk> we need a libmodulemd module
14:12:37 <langdon> so.. sgallagh.. were you thinking of formal prep? or really just a helpdesk?
14:12:52 <langdon> #topic flock workshop
14:13:05 <langdon> #link https://pagure.io/flock/issue/14 proposal for flock workshop
14:13:09 <sgallagh> langdon: More of the latter, but it might not be a bad idea to have some helpful materials at the ready.
14:13:35 <langdon> do we know who in the module crew will be at flock?
14:13:36 <sgallagh> e.g. a cheat-sheet for `fedmod rpm2mod` for example
14:13:51 <langdon> sgallagh: yeah...
14:13:58 <sgallagh> I'll be there.
14:14:04 <langdon> me too...
14:14:08 <contyk> me too
14:14:18 <langdon> contyk: ohh cool.. i thought you werent
14:14:23 <contyk> asamalik will, tdawson will too
14:14:32 <langdon> dgilmore: will you be there?
14:14:33 <contyk> langdon: flock, yes, devconf.us, prolly not
14:14:33 <sgallagh> So, I'd say we have the expertise at the ready
14:14:43 <dgilmore> langdon: I will be at flock
14:14:45 <sgallagh> I'll almost certainly be at both
14:14:54 <langdon> me too :)
14:15:25 <dgilmore> i will not be at devconf.us at this point
14:15:30 <langdon> ok.. i can tag nils with doing some of the prep work.. i think..
14:15:42 <langdon> but i am not sure if he will be there
14:16:16 <contyk> oh and jkaluza will be there too, if he counts :)
14:16:33 <contyk> no idea about the rest of factory
14:16:41 <langdon> me either
14:17:42 <sgallagh> So, what do we want to have in terms of materials?
14:17:43 <langdon> ok.. ill ping nils about helping on prep and maybe me, sgallagh, and nils can coordinate on updating the "issue"?
14:17:50 <sgallagh> ack
14:17:53 <langdon> or we can discuss here
14:18:02 <langdon> i need to think about it personally
14:18:15 <langdon> does anyone know how the voting will happen for in/out for flock?
14:18:21 <langdon> or when?
14:20:08 <sgallagh> "Round 1 selection starts on: 15 June 2018"
14:20:14 <sgallagh> I don't think that happened
14:20:22 <sgallagh> "Round 2 selection starts on: 2 July 2018"
14:20:31 <sgallagh> "Final selection starts on: 15 July 2018 (absolute last day for CFP submission)"
14:20:42 <sgallagh> bexelbie: ^^ What is the status on this?
14:20:56 <dgilmore> sgallagh: round 1 is underway
14:21:03 <sgallagh> Ah okay
14:21:08 <dgilmore> i think by friday is the due date
14:21:19 <contyk> I think bexelbie is in China, so he's probably not around
14:23:05 <langdon> ok.. so we should probably try to get the update on the workshop in soon
14:25:32 <langdon> ok.. anything else on this?
14:26:37 <langdon> #topic open floor
14:27:04 <langdon> anyone got any open floor items?
14:27:09 * tflink has one
14:27:16 <contyk> yay
14:27:19 <langdon> ha
14:27:21 <contyk> we can always count on Tim
14:27:22 <langdon> tflink: go for it
14:27:41 <tflink> I'm going to be mostly AFK for the rest of the year, not sure what would be best to do since I'm a voting member of the WG
14:28:20 <langdon> didn't we change the rules to make attendance == voter?
14:28:33 <contyk> I don't think so
14:28:35 <langdon> is there anyone else we can get to represent QE here?
14:28:43 * langdon wonders if that was server sig
14:28:50 <tflink> I can ask around
14:29:50 <langdon> hmm.. we should probably change the rules or have an election or something :/
14:30:14 <sgallagh> langdon: That was Server SIG
14:31:16 <langdon> ok.. ill try to figure out what we should do and propose something to the ML or in the next meeting..
14:31:55 * langdon thinks he needs to write a new objective as well
14:32:50 <langdon> tflink: well.. please let us know if we can get someone else.. and thank you for your service!
14:33:30 <tflink> np, sorry for not bringing this up earlier - trying to get all the t's crossed and i's dotted before I disappear
14:33:31 <langdon> #info probably time to revisit the voting members of the wg
14:33:49 <langdon> tflink: i am sure that is a LOT of x-bars
14:34:09 <tflink> x-bars?
14:34:09 <langdon> ok.. anything else?
14:34:20 <langdon> tflink: the thing at the top of the t
14:34:38 * langdon also has world cup soccer on the brain
14:34:45 <tflink> ah, gotcha
14:35:57 <langdon> ok.. closing in a minute or so
14:37:06 <langdon> going once
14:37:16 <langdon> twice
14:37:25 <langdon> and three times
14:37:35 <contyk> thrice
14:37:44 <langdon> #endmeeting