17:04:01 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting Fedora Join - 2018-09-11
17:04:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Sep 11 17:04:01 2018 UTC.
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17:04:01 <zodbot> The chair is FranciscoD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:04:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_join_-_2018-09-11'
17:04:08 <FranciscoD> #meetingname fedora-join
17:04:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-join'
17:04:25 <bt0> ok
17:04:33 <FranciscoD> #chair dukebarman hellbanger linuxmodder dhanesh95 x3mboy_ bt0
17:04:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0 dhanesh95 dukebarman hellbanger linuxmodder x3mboy_
17:04:38 <FranciscoD> Anyone I forgot?
17:04:59 * s14ck o/
17:05:07 <s14ck> .fas jhoanir
17:05:08 <zodbot> s14ck: jhoanir 'Jhoanir Torres' <jhoanir@gmail.com>
17:05:17 <FranciscoD> #chair s14ck
17:05:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0 dhanesh95 dukebarman hellbanger linuxmodder s14ck x3mboy_
17:05:32 <FranciscoD> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Join/Next_Meeting
17:05:38 <FranciscoD> Not up to date, but the template is OK
17:05:45 <FranciscoD> #topic Roll call
17:06:01 <FranciscoD> #info Please introduce yourself and give a little summary of your interests :)
17:06:26 <FranciscoD> #info Ankur Sinha, ankursinha: Fedora Join/Classroom, Packaging, NeuroFedora
17:06:34 <bt0> .fas bt0dotninja
17:06:35 <zodbot> bt0: bt0dotninja 'Alberto Rodriguez Sanchez' <hotgalan@gmail.com>
17:06:51 <bt0> #info Alberto Rodriguez S; UTC-5;CommOps (Metrics, Community engagement), DotNet (Testing), Infrastructure(Apprentice), Marketing (Member), Ambassadors (Member), Fedora-join (Member),Cats (lover)
17:07:34 <hellbanger> .fas hellbangerkarna
17:07:35 <zodbot> hellbanger: hellbangerkarna '' <akarshan.biswas@hotmail.com>
17:07:50 <s14ck> .fasinfo jhoanir
17:07:51 <zodbot> s14ck: User: jhoanir, Name: Jhoanir Torres, email: jhoanir@gmail.com, Creation: 2012-06-24, IRC Nick: jhoanir, Timezone: America/Guayaquil, Locale: en, GPG key ID: F23ADEA5, Status: active
17:07:54 <zodbot> s14ck: Unapproved Groups: commops
17:07:57 <zodbot> s14ck: Approved Groups: scitech ambassadors fedora-join @fedora-ec cla_fpca cla_done
17:08:36 <fdelapena> .fasinfo fdelapena
17:08:38 <zodbot> fdelapena: User: fdelapena, Name: Francisco de la Peña, email: fran@fran.cr, Creation: 2012-09-10, IRC Nick: fdelapena, Timezone: America/Costa_Rica, Locale: es, GPG key ID: BBBD42B50858CC35, Status: active
17:08:40 <zodbot> fdelapena: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_done
17:09:07 <bt0> FranciscoD: do you take your tea with Honey??
17:09:10 <hellbanger> .fasinfo hellbangerkarna
17:09:10 <zodbot> hellbanger: User: hellbangerkarna, Name: None, email: akarshan.biswas@hotmail.com, Creation: 2018-02-18, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: None, Locale: None, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
17:09:13 <zodbot> hellbanger: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca
17:09:40 <s14ck> I'm based in Quito, Ecuador and I'm interested in growth up classroom initiative
17:09:46 <FranciscoD> bt0: nah, not usually. No sugar either. When I have a sore throat, I take green tea with lemon and honey
17:10:02 <FranciscoD> s14ck: awesome! We're always looking for more help with the classrooms :D
17:10:21 <bt0> cool :)
17:10:35 * FranciscoD waits a minute for any more folks
17:10:45 <FranciscoD> Time to go make your tea too ;)
17:11:02 <FranciscoD> #topic New member introductions
17:11:14 <fdelapena> I'm interested in packaging, I'm preparing these days some stuff for Copr for now and hopefully submitting for review request soon
17:11:23 <dhanesh95> .hello dhanesh95
17:11:23 <FranciscoD> #info If this is your first IRC meeting, please introduce yourself in more detail if you wish
17:11:23 <zodbot> dhanesh95: dhanesh95 'Dhanesh Bhalchandra Sabane' <dhanesh95@disroot.org>
17:11:29 <FranciscoD> ah, hello dhanesh95 !
17:11:31 <FranciscoD> #chair dhanesh95
17:11:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD bt0 dhanesh95 dukebarman hellbanger linuxmodder s14ck x3mboy_
17:11:49 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: o/
17:12:20 <FranciscoD> fdelapena: awesome, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group is a good read if you haven't read it already
17:12:50 <hellbanger> My interests are packaging, contributing to opensource, music. Right now working hard to bring a package to rpmfusion. Though rpmfusion might be out of scope here I guess? FranciscoD
17:13:12 <FranciscoD> hellbanger: not really, most RPMFusion contributors are either Fedora contributors now or were in the past
17:13:31 <FranciscoD> but yeh, development discussion about RPMFusion will be better suited to their channels
17:14:05 <hellbanger> I am also working on a package called autotuned and I might bring it to fedora.
17:14:17 <FranciscoD> Everyone, please use the commands listed here liberally---they improve our logs: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Guide
17:14:22 <FranciscoD> hellbanger++
17:14:26 <dhanesh95> hellbangerkarna++
17:14:26 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for hellbangerkarna changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:14:32 <FranciscoD> .thank hellbangerkarna
17:14:32 <zodbot> FranciscoD thinks hellbangerkarna is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to hellbangerkarna++ also)
17:14:41 <FranciscoD> hellbangerkarna++
17:15:03 <dhanesh95> fdelapena++
17:15:03 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for fdelapena changed to 1 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:15:06 <FranciscoD> #topic Community announcements
17:15:21 <hellbanger> .thank FranciscoD dhanesh95
17:15:21 <zodbot> hellbanger thinks FranciscoD dhanesh95 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to FranciscoD dhanesh95++ also)
17:15:29 <FranciscoD> #info Today is virtualization test day: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2018-09-11_Virtualization
17:15:51 <bt0> \o?
17:15:57 <FranciscoD> bt0: go ahead
17:15:58 <bt0> \o/
17:16:02 <dhanesh95> bt0: o/
17:16:13 <FranciscoD> #info Python 2 is no longer with us in Fedora 30: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Mass_Python_2_Package_Removal
17:16:32 <bt0> sorry I'm just happy for the test day
17:16:38 <FranciscoD> XD
17:16:50 <dhanesh95> RIP Python 2! _/\_
17:17:24 <FranciscoD> #info Fedora 29 Beta Release readiness meeting is on Thursday 2018-09-13 at 1900UTC https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/29/Schedule
17:17:50 <FranciscoD> #info The meeting will be in #fedora-meeting-1
17:17:58 <hellbanger> chromium will suffer alot because of removal of python2. xD
17:18:44 <FranciscoD> Yeh, well, they need to move to py3 quickly: https://pythonclock.org/
17:18:57 <FranciscoD> Any more announcements?
17:19:17 <s14ck> Nope
17:19:28 <FranciscoD> #info Latest FPgM report is here: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fpgm-report-2018-36/
17:20:04 <FranciscoD> OK then, lets get on the tickets
17:20:22 <dhanesh95> +1
17:20:23 <FranciscoD> We didn't have a meeting last week, so we'll do "actions from last week" later?
17:20:29 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: do you want to do the tickets this time?
17:20:51 <FranciscoD> #topic Tickets
17:21:03 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issues -> This is where our tickets are
17:21:20 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: Go ahead. I'll do it next time.
17:21:32 * dhanesh95 is working on something else at the side
17:21:40 <FranciscoD> We'll start with tickets tagged next-meeting: https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issues?status=Open&tags=next-meeting
17:21:59 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/63: A monthly "easyfix day"
17:22:23 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95 already commented on this. We have some logistics to figure out before we can go ahead with this.
17:22:46 <FranciscoD> Can you folks look at it and also give your comments. I think we should discuss it next week?
17:22:56 <FranciscoD> If you agree with that, please reply with a +1
17:23:12 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD proposes we discuss this next week so that everyone has a chance to comment
17:23:13 <dhanesh95> +1
17:23:18 <bt0> +1
17:23:55 <FranciscoD> hellbanger s14ck dukebarman fdelapena ^
17:24:16 <hellbanger> +1
17:24:30 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: do you know what the comment after yours is meant to say?
17:25:08 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: I'm not sure. Probably someone new just testing the waters?
17:25:16 <FranciscoD> hrm, yeh, looks like it.
17:25:17 <s14ck> +1
17:25:22 <FranciscoD> Let's leave it for the moment
17:25:31 <dhanesh95> I think we can safely ignore it
17:25:33 <FranciscoD> OK, lotsa +1s
17:26:12 <FranciscoD> #agreed https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/63 to be discussed next week when everyone has had a chance to comment on it (+6/-0)
17:26:37 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/61 Next round of classroom sessions
17:26:50 <FranciscoD> bt0 reached out and has two instructors for us! Yay!
17:26:58 <dhanesh95> .thank bt0
17:26:59 <zodbot> dhanesh95 thinks bt0 is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to bt0++ also)
17:27:00 <bt0> yeah
17:27:43 <bt0> maybe this will result in three new classrooms
17:28:14 <bt0> containers 101, Modularity 101 and silverblue 101
17:28:14 <FranciscoD> Awesome!
17:28:37 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/65 -> Classroom sessions about modularity
17:28:56 <FranciscoD> We have two more sessions in the pipeline too (that I can possibly take)
17:29:11 <FranciscoD> Should we close #61?
17:29:24 <bt0> i think yes +1
17:29:27 <FranciscoD> or leave it open and make the other tickets block it?
17:30:03 <FranciscoD> I'm fine with either. What do you think will be more helpful?
17:30:07 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: ^
17:30:16 <FranciscoD> s14ck: ^
17:30:41 <FranciscoD> s14ck: you also wanted to propose a session, didn't you? Can you open another ticket for it?
17:31:06 <hellbanger> I think we should go with modularity for our next classroom session.
17:31:18 <s14ck> FranciscoD: sure. I can create tkts about my classroom proposals
17:31:32 <FranciscoD> #action s14ck Create tickets with classroom session proposals
17:31:40 <dhanesh95> +1 to close #61
17:31:40 <FranciscoD> hellbanger: +1
17:32:01 <FranciscoD> bt0: once we know how many modularity sessions we have, we'll update the wiki page too
17:32:19 <FranciscoD> #info Remember to update the classroom wiki page once we know how many modularity sessions we have
17:32:20 <bt0> ok, i will do it
17:32:38 <s14ck> .thank FranciscoD
17:32:38 <zodbot> s14ck thinks FranciscoD is awesome and is happy they are helping! (Please don't forget to FranciscoD++ also)
17:32:47 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD update #61 to say "Next round of modularity classroom sessions"
17:32:59 <s14ck> FranciscoD++
17:33:00 <zodbot> s14ck: Karma for ankursinha changed to 11 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:33:01 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD make other tickets block #61
17:33:39 <dhanesh95> Ohh we're going the other way. No issues.
17:33:52 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/60 -> Add "trivial" review tickets to easyfix list also
17:34:02 * dhanesh95 is AFK for a few minutes
17:34:21 <FranciscoD> I've opened a PR, as you can see from the comment there.
17:34:26 <FranciscoD> #info https://github.com/fedora-infra/fedora-gather-easyfix/pull/13
17:34:52 <FranciscoD> There's some confusion about whether they should not be listed there or not. I reckon I may have to speak to the package maintainers?
17:34:54 <bt0> ok, it's waiting merge
17:36:01 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD e-mail devel list to clarify the function of "Trivial" key word on review tickets
17:36:07 <hellbanger> FranciscoD:+1
17:36:28 <bt0> i'm doing it right now in the #fedora-apps channel
17:36:58 <s14ck> bt0++
17:36:59 <FranciscoD> bt0: ah, OK, but I think the packaging committee may be the ones who'll clarify. Let us know how it goes :)
17:37:14 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/45 -> Temporary member dukebarman
17:37:18 <FranciscoD> dukebarman: you around?
17:38:06 <FranciscoD> #info We need to check if dukebarman has been added to other groups so that we can remove the temporary membership
17:38:07 <bt0> he don't looks recently active
17:38:23 <FranciscoD> Yeh, I don't want to remove it without him making a comment
17:38:26 <bt0> .fasinfo dukebarman
17:38:27 <zodbot> bt0: User: dukebarman, Name: None, email: dukebarman@protonmail.com, Creation: 2018-02-23, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: None, Locale: None, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
17:38:28 <FranciscoD> How about I email him to ask?
17:38:29 <zodbot> bt0: Unapproved Groups: security-team qa
17:38:32 <zodbot> bt0: Approved Groups: fedora-join cla_done cla_fpca
17:39:21 <FranciscoD> I'll e-mail him to check up. Revisit next week?
17:39:24 <FranciscoD> +1s?
17:39:31 <bt0> sound like the kindly thing than we can do
17:39:33 <bt0> +1
17:40:06 <s14ck> +1 FranciscoD
17:40:10 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95 hellbanger fdelapena etc: comment?
17:40:14 <fdelapena> +1
17:40:23 <dhanesh95> +1
17:40:36 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD e-mail dukebarman to check up
17:40:46 <hellbanger> +1 from me as well. That's right thing to do imo.
17:40:48 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/45 -> revisit next week
17:41:12 <FranciscoD> #agreed FranciscoD e-mail dukebarman about inactivity (+6/-0)
17:41:33 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: you back at the keyboard? should we discuss the easyfix post ticket?
17:41:40 <dhanesh95> Yes
17:41:56 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/55 -> Write commblog explaining how easyfix works
17:42:12 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: You have a draft that I need to proofread, no?
17:42:39 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: That is correct. It's not complete yet because there are two sections that I want to discuss with you first and then write them down.
17:42:49 <FranciscoD> OK
17:42:57 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD go over draft post
17:43:02 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: can you give us the link here please?
17:43:16 <FranciscoD> #action dhanesh95 FranciscoD finish post and aim to publish before next meeting
17:43:36 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: It's on the Community Blog. I'm not sure if it is possible to view a draft.
17:43:39 <dhanesh95> Is it?
17:44:09 <s14ck> dhanesh95: that's a good idea
17:44:10 <bt0> yeah, doing a public draft
17:44:17 <FranciscoD> hrm, dunno. Let me log in. I think there's a preview link, similar to the magazine
17:44:21 <FranciscoD> bt0 will know :D
17:44:48 * dhanesh95 logs in to CB
17:45:40 <FranciscoD> I can see the post in the list, but I can't click it. bt0 does one have to mark it as a "public draft"?
17:45:58 <bt0> let me check
17:46:25 <FranciscoD> thanks :)
17:47:32 <dhanesh95> Does this work for everyone - https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=6230&preview=true ?
17:47:36 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: added a "High" priority :P
17:47:54 <FranciscoD> page not found :(
17:48:18 <FranciscoD> I've had this issue before. One has to find a public draft link or something.
17:48:21 <dhanesh95> Okay. Not available publicly.
17:48:30 <dhanesh95> Also, we need a better title.
17:48:48 <hellbanger> dhanesh95: Error 404 content not found :P
17:48:54 * dhanesh95 is terrible at writing articles. Please don't make fun of his post.
17:49:07 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: who do we e-mail for hel with the commblog? Commops?
17:49:18 <s14ck> LOL
17:49:21 <FranciscoD> s/hel/help/
17:49:21 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: Yes
17:49:34 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: can you please e-mail them to ask how to make the draft viewable by others?
17:49:43 <FranciscoD> it's something we should know in general anyway
17:49:45 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: Let's move on for now. I'll try to find a way to make this draft public.
17:49:58 <FranciscoD> #action dhanesh95 figure out a way to make draft public
17:50:11 <s14ck> +1
17:50:15 <fdelapena> I've seen some previews working with some additional token in the url
17:50:21 <hellbanger> Take a screenshot :P
17:50:22 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/55 -> revisit next week
17:50:49 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/33 -> Badge series for classroom instructors
17:51:27 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=6230&preview=1&_ppp=97a717de9c
17:51:38 <bt0> cool
17:51:51 <fdelapena> that's the Public Post Preview plugin
17:51:54 <FranciscoD> bt0: your comment says we need to open a ticket each time a session doesn't happen on the IRC. Does that mean if the session does happen in #fedora-classroom, the instructor will be awareded the badge automatically?
17:52:04 <hellbanger> dhanesh95 works now
17:52:05 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: awesome
17:52:15 <dhanesh95> Yay!
17:52:18 <bt0> yes
17:52:32 <bt0> for the chairs
17:52:40 <FranciscoD> bt0: OK, should I close this ticket then? I'll document how the badges work on the wiki page?
17:52:49 <bt0> also The sensei badge will be replaced for the new series
17:53:07 <FranciscoD> Yeh, awesome! Thanks for following this up :)
17:53:32 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD update wiki page with information about badges from https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/33
17:53:49 <FranciscoD> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/33 - badges for classroom instructors: FIXED
17:54:09 <FranciscoD> is it worth announcing the badges on the comm blog, by the way?
17:54:33 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD close https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/33
17:55:18 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: Announcing badges on the community blog. Interesting idea. Not sure if we need it though.
17:55:39 <FranciscoD> maybe when we announce the new sessions?
17:55:49 <bt0> sounds great
17:56:19 <FranciscoD> #info Remember to mention badges in the posts announcing the new classroom sessions
17:56:30 <FranciscoD> OK, we have time for one more maybe
17:56:55 <hellbanger> FranciscoD: Interesting titles btw. :)
17:57:10 <FranciscoD> hrm, actually, we'll do them next week. They're all need discussion.
17:57:18 <FranciscoD> s/They're/They/
17:57:55 <FranciscoD> I'll change topic to open floor if anyone has anything quick to discuss
17:57:58 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: We can probably spend less time in the meeting if we ask everyone to voice their opinions in the ticket itself.
17:58:23 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: yeh, we really need to do that
17:59:08 <FranciscoD> I'll send out e-mails for them one by one I guess?
17:59:14 <FranciscoD> #topic Open floor
17:59:52 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD send e-mails to ML about tickets that need discussing one by one
17:59:56 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: That'll be too much work. How about adding a line in today's MoM?
17:59:58 <s14ck> dhanesh95 FranciscoD +1
18:00:43 <FranciscoD> #info We need comments on mentoring related tickets: https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issues?status=Open&tags=mentorship
18:00:57 <dhanesh95> #help Join SIG voice their opinions on tickets to help with faster resolution
18:01:38 <FranciscoD> OK. Let's close. We're 1 minute past :o
18:01:50 <FranciscoD> if there's something urgent, please bring it up now
18:02:00 <FranciscoD> closing in 3
18:02:05 <FranciscoD> in 2
18:02:10 <FranciscoD> 1.4
18:02:12 <FranciscoD> 1.2?
18:02:22 <FranciscoD> 0.5
18:02:24 <dhanesh95> Sold!
18:02:29 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD send out logs
18:02:35 <hellbanger> lol
18:02:40 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD update next meeting page
18:02:52 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD end meeting
18:02:55 <FranciscoD> :P
18:02:57 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting