16:00:09 <lenkaseg> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2021-11-04)... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c4bc01334f231cea951bc92aae4544b67483b69b) 16:00:09 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 4 16:00:09 2021 UTC. 16:00:09 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:00:09 <zodbot> The chair is lenkaseg. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:00:09 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2021-11-04)..._(full_message_at_https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c4bc01334f231cea951bc92aae4544b67483b69b)' 16:00:14 <mobrien55> I use https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/ whenever matrix acts up. its a web irc client 16:00:22 <lenkaseg> #topic greetings! 16:00:32 <mobrien55> .hello2 mobrien 16:00:33 <leothecat> .hello leo 16:00:33 <zodbot> mobrien55: Sorry, but user 'mobrien55' does not exist 16:00:36 <eddiejennings> .hi 16:00:36 <zodbot> leothecat: leo 'Leo Puvilland' <lpuvilla0001@mymail.lausd.net> 16:00:38 <nirik> morning 16:00:39 <zodbot> eddiejennings: eddiejennings 'Eddie Jennings' <eddie@eddiejennings.net> 16:00:40 <mobrien55> .hello mobrien 16:00:42 <zodbot> mobrien55: mobrien 'Mark O'Brien' <markobri@redhat.com> 16:00:45 <pmoura> .hello phsmoura 16:00:46 <zodbot> pmoura: phsmoura 'Pedro Moura' <moura.pedro123@gmail.com> 16:00:47 <zlopez> .hi 16:00:51 <zodbot> zlopez: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' <michal.konecny@psmail.xyz> 16:01:02 <leothecat> i need to change my email to @ my domain :P 16:01:04 <austinpowered> .hi 16:01:05 <zodbot> austinpowered: austinpowered 'T.C. Williams' <fedoraproject@wootenwilliams.com> 16:01:12 <lenkaseg> .hi 16:01:13 <zodbot> lenkaseg: lenkaseg 'Lenka Segura' <lenka@sepu.cz> 16:01:21 <nirik> I think it didn't get the meeting name right 16:01:26 <lenkaseg> ``` 16:01:27 <lenkaseg> #topic New folks introductions 16:01:33 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 16:01:33 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 16:01:42 <lenkaseg> #topic New folks introductions 16:02:39 <mobrien55> lenkaseg you will need to copy/paste the lines one by one on matrix 16:02:40 * nirik doesn't see any new folks off hand... 16:03:02 <lenkaseg> Ok! Will do that. 16:03:08 <lenkaseg> #chair nirik siddharthvipul mobrien zlopez pingou bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak computerkid 16:03:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: bodanel computerkid dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg mobrien nirik pingou siddharthvipul zlopez 16:03:22 <lenkaseg> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra 16:03:31 <lenkaseg> #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ 16:03:47 <lenkaseg> Any newcomers today? 16:04:11 <jg-dev> Hi everyone, I am a newcomer 16:04:24 <nirik> welcome jg-dev ! 16:04:25 <eddiejennings> jg-dev: Welcome :D 16:04:25 <leothecat> hello o/ 16:04:28 <leothecat> welcome 16:04:30 <jg-dev> I dropped a message on the mailing list earlier in the week, my name is jason :) 16:04:33 <lenkaseg> Hello jg-dev ! 16:04:48 <jg-dev> Hi everyone 16:04:57 <mobrien55> welcome jg-dev! 16:04:58 <leothecat> welcome jason :) 16:05:10 <lenkaseg> jg-dev: Do you want to share your background, interests and so on? 16:05:20 <mobrien55> feel free to reach out on #fedora-admin if you need help with anything 16:05:38 <zlopez> welcome jg-dev 16:05:57 <lenkaseg> #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted 16:06:00 <jg-dev> sure, I am pretty new to all of this, but I like to dabble with bash, python, and AWS and some IoT bits 16:06:32 <jg-dev> intersted to learn more / get involved with these kind of things 16:06:40 <lenkaseg> Thanks for introduction jg-dev 16:06:45 <jg-dev> no worries 16:07:50 <lenkaseg> Anybody else new here? 16:08:44 <lenkaseg> Ok, let's move on 16:08:51 <lenkaseg> #topic Next chair 16:08:55 <lenkaseg> #info magic eight ball says: 16:09:01 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2021-11-04 - lenkaseg 16:09:05 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2021-11-11 - nirik 16:09:11 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2021-11-18 - eddiejennings 16:09:43 <lenkaseg> some volunteer for 11-25? 16:09:58 <mkonecny> I can take it 16:10:10 <eddiejennings> I hear you get paid extra for chairing on Thanksgiving :D 16:10:31 <leothecat> haha 16:10:45 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2021-11-25 - zlopez 16:10:56 <mkonecny> eddiejennings: We don't have it here :D 16:11:04 <mkonecny> No extra money for me than :D 16:11:16 <eddiejennings> alas 16:11:57 <lenkaseg> Ok, next topic, that would be... 16:13:39 <leothecat> status? 16:13:46 <lenkaseg__> mmm...I don;t see the messages from Element on hexchat 16:14:05 <lenkaseg__> #topic announcements and information 16:14:10 <zlopez> It looks like the bridge is down again 16:14:41 <lenkaseg__> In case the messages start arriving from Element, don't be alarmed :) 16:14:44 <nirik> it is like the time it for our meeting. sheesh 16:14:45 <lenkaseg__> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting 16:16:06 <lenkaseg__> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 16:16:19 <lenkaseg__> #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request 16:18:20 <leothecat> matrix broke? 16:18:29 <zlopez> Seems like it 16:18:31 <nirik> yeah, bridge seems down 16:19:04 <lenkaseg__> This is me from hexchat 16:19:15 <nirik> I see that from here on irc, lenkaseg__ 16:19:28 <lenkaseg__> Ok then, let's continue 16:19:38 <lenkaseg__> #info Fedora 35 Beta was released on 2021-09-28 16:20:14 <lenkaseg__> There is some old info about Fedora 35 Final freeze, but as I understood that is over now, right? 16:20:23 <nirik> yep. It's over, you can drop that. 16:20:35 <mobrien21> I think we can remove the beta info as well now that the final release is out 16:20:40 <lenkaseg__> so instead: 16:20:51 <lenkaseg__> #info Fedora 35 is out! 16:21:08 <leothecat> yay \o/ 16:21:19 <nirik> yep. 16:21:33 <zlopez> \o/ 16:21:38 <lenkaseg__> congratulations! 16:21:50 <leothecat> i gotta upgrade :D 16:22:01 <lenkaseg__> And it seems to be all from announcements 16:22:47 <lenkaseg__> Somebody has something more to announce? 16:23:31 <lenkaseg__> let's move to another topic then 16:23:39 <lenkaseg__> #topic Oncall 16:23:45 <lenkaseg__> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall 16:23:53 <lenkaseg__> #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/ 16:24:02 <lenkaseg__> #info nirik on call from 2021-10-21 to 2021-10-28 16:24:18 <lenkaseg__> oh, that was old 16:24:26 <lenkaseg__> ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus 16:24:29 <mobrien21> Put me down for the next available on call 16:24:50 <eddiejennings> I should be oncall 11/11 - 11/18 16:24:53 <leothecat> :o my oncall starts today 16:24:58 <lenkaseg__> ok mobrien21! 16:25:06 <lenkaseg__> #info darknao on call from 2021-10-28 to 2021-11-04 16:25:10 <leothecat> from 2021-11-04 to 2021-11-11 16:25:12 <lenkaseg__> #info leothecat on call from 2021-11-04 to 2021-11-11 16:25:16 <lenkaseg__> #info eddiejennings on call from 2021-11-11 to 2021-11-18 16:25:22 <lenkaseg__> #info LenkaSegura on call from 2021-11-25 to 2021-12-02 16:25:46 <eddiejennings> looks like we need 11/18 - 11/25 16:26:11 <lenkaseg__> #info mobrien21 on call from 2021-12-02 to 2021-12-09 16:26:32 <lenkaseg__> #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) 16:26:51 <lenkaseg__> How was the last week of oncall darknao? 16:27:43 <mobrien21> eddiejennings is right we are missing 11/18 - 11/25 16:28:11 <mobrien21> I can do that instead, best to have a european on thanksgiving week anyway 16:28:15 <lenkaseg__> eddiejennings: yep. mobrien21, would you mid taking that week? 16:28:15 <nirik> do note that 11/25 is a holiday in the US... US folks may not be around and that week may be pretty quiet. ;) 16:28:26 <zlopez> mobrien21: Maybe this week will be removed from calendar :-D 16:29:23 <lenkaseg__> I see you message mobrien, it's yours! 16:29:52 <lenkaseg__> #info mobrien21 on call from 2021-11-18 to 2021-11-25 16:31:12 <lenkaseg__> no report from darknao (or at least didn't get through for me to see) 16:31:54 <mobrien21> cant say I noticed any oncall pings this week on fedora-admin 16:31:56 <lenkaseg__> let's move on 16:32:12 * eddiejennings didn't notice any either. 16:32:15 <lenkaseg__> #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik] 16:32:21 <nirik> lets see... 16:32:55 <nirik> we only have 1 down host, and it's a arm builder that is... sadly dead. So, we should likely just remove it from inventory now. 16:33:00 * leothecat didn't see any 16:33:09 <leothecat> ah ): 16:33:19 <leothecat> that's not good 16:33:31 <nirik> there's a f35-test vpn alert pending... 16:33:42 <nirik> I assume thats due to that machine being brought up 16:34:00 <mobrien21> I'll investigate that later today 16:34:07 <nirik> there's a mdapi alert, it's broken currently... 16:34:21 <nirik> https://pagure.io/mdapi/issue/119 16:34:38 <nirik> if someone wants to make a PR to fix that that would be lovely. 16:35:19 <nirik> There has also been some flapping on koji, but I am not sure whats going on there... 16:35:24 <leothecat> i could look into the pr :) 16:35:38 <nirik> leothecat: awesome 16:35:48 <nirik> ok, I think thats about it... we can move along now. 16:36:19 <lenkaseg__> Alright! Next we have: backlog refinement! 16:36:27 <lenkaseg__> #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement 16:36:34 <lenkaseg__> #info Refine oldest tickets on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues 16:36:52 <leothecat> yay 16:36:59 <lenkaseg__> from what I see, the last modified would be 16:37:16 <lenkaseg__> ## .ticket #5478 16:37:23 <lenkaseg__> .ticket #5478 16:37:23 <zodbot> lenkaseg__: Error: '#5478' is not a valid integer. 16:37:29 <lenkaseg__> .ticket 5478 16:37:30 <zodbot> lenkaseg__: Issue #5478: Establishing a new FAS group for Python-SIG - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5478 16:37:32 <nirik> yeah, it's picky. ;) 16:37:35 <lenkaseg__> here we go 16:37:52 <nirik> this one is blocked on newer mailman, which is blocked on packaging work 16:38:02 <leothecat> what's the packaging issue? 16:39:29 <mobrien21> I wonder should we close it to be reopened if the packaging issue gets fixed? 16:39:31 <nirik> .ticket 8455 16:39:32 <zodbot> nirik: Issue #8455: Move mailman to newer release of Fedora or CentOS - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8455 16:39:46 <nirik> it's blocked by that one. 16:40:17 <zlopez> I tried to package mailman3 for CentOS 8 Stream and it's really a pain to package it 16:40:43 <nirik> mailman3 is in fedora... but we need now also hyperkitty and postorious 16:41:24 <nirik> anyhow, how about I update that ticket asking if it's still needed or if there's any other way forward and then it will be modified so we can stop talking about it every refinement. ;) 16:41:50 <zlopez> nirik: +1 16:41:54 <mobrien21> +1 16:42:03 <leothecat> so we need to package hyperkitty? 16:42:05 <leothecat> +1 16:42:38 <nirik> yes, thats the archiver and postorious thats the admin interface. 16:42:43 <lenkaseg__> next ticket? 16:42:58 <nirik> yep 16:42:59 <lenkaseg__> .ticket 9691 16:43:00 <mobrien21> I think for mailman3 hyperkitty and postorious are packaged together as mailman-web right? 16:43:00 <zodbot> lenkaseg__: Issue #9691: STG: Move vmguests from vmhost-x86-01/02/03 to vmhost-x86-11/12 - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9691 16:43:25 <nirik> mobrien21: no idea. ;) 16:43:44 <nirik> so, we need to do this... I think it needs to be me or mobrien21 as it needs sysadmin-main... 16:44:00 <leothecat> yep :P 16:44:22 <mobrien21> This has been on my list to do in spare time that never seems to exist. I will get to it... 16:44:54 <nirik> yeah, I was hoping to work on it some too... so whoever gets to it first I guess? 16:45:09 <mobrien21> +1 16:45:11 <zlopez> This looks like a race :-) 16:45:35 <nirik> ha 16:45:54 <mobrien21> The worlds slowest race :') 16:46:02 <nb> hi 16:46:03 <nirik> will update ticket with that info 16:46:18 <leothecat> nirik question for https://pagure.io/mdapi/issue/119 16:46:32 <nb> nirik mobrien21 ping me when you work on 9691 - I would like to see how 16:46:37 <nb> if i'm not busy at work 16:46:38 <leothecat> do we also change Fedora EPEL to Fedora Linux EPEL 16:46:54 <nb> leothecat no. I don't think so 16:46:59 <leothecat> k 16:47:00 <nb> Fedora Linux is a product. Fedora EPEL is another product 16:47:06 <nb> although that's just MHO 16:47:07 <nirik> leothecat: no, we didn't. 16:47:19 <mobrien21> nb will do 16:47:33 <nirik> nb: cool. It's not hard... just takes time 16:49:01 <nirik> next? 16:49:06 <zlopez> I think we can go to next ticket 16:49:11 <lenkaseg__> .ticket 8657 16:49:12 <zodbot> lenkaseg__: Issue #8657: `fedpkg module-build` fails with "The modulemd libreoffice.yaml is invalid. Please verify the syntax is correct." upon buildopts: arches: [x86_64] - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8657 16:50:26 <zlopez> Is this still relevant? 16:50:31 <leothecat> nirik: https://pagure.io/mdapi/pull-request/120 looks good? 16:52:00 <nirik> so, on this one... I am not sure. We could just ask them to file on mbs... I wish we could hear from briley on it. 16:53:18 <nirik> since this is a service we just provide hosting for, it would make more sense to ask them to file upstream... 16:54:36 <zlopez> +1 16:55:01 <lenkaseg__> we have alst 6 mins, next ticket or open floor? 16:55:08 <nirik> [09:54:38] <breilly> nirik: ah, right. I believe this is a bug in MBS that hasn't been resolved yet. refiling would be best 16:55:20 <nirik> so, will close and ask them to file upstream. 16:55:31 <nirik> either way 16:56:11 <lenkaseg__> in that case 16:56:13 <lenkaseg__> #topic Open Floor 16:56:39 <zlopez> floor is lava 16:56:46 <eddiejennings> minor thing: motd for #fedora-admin and #fedora-noc need to be updated 16:56:46 <leothecat> did a quick mdapi pr should fix it? lmk if i made a mistake 16:56:46 <leothecat> haha 16:57:25 <mobrien21> I'm not sure if this was done before but would people be interested in a learning topic on how Large Fedora issues get done? 16:57:50 <lenkaseg__> mobrien21: I would! 16:57:59 <mobrien21> The process from request through to completion 16:58:14 <nirik> leothecat: it seems ok to me, but I would defer to someone who knows that codebase better... 16:58:19 <leothecat> okay 16:58:23 <leothecat> +1 on the learning topic 16:58:33 <mobrien21> Ok I'll put it on the board 16:58:49 <lenkaseg__> Ok, thanks mobrien21! 16:59:23 <lenkaseg__> That would be 11-25 16:59:35 <mobrien21> I won't do it thanksgiving so we may do 2 weeks in a row of learning topic 16:59:50 <mobrien21> so 11-18? 16:59:56 <zlopez> I added one I talk about with something 17:00:05 <lenkaseg__> keep forgetting about the thanksgiving, not a thing here in Spain :) 17:00:35 <zlopez> I would be interested how Fedora is doing migrations of big databases with live data, like datanommer 17:00:38 <mobrien21> Not here in Ireland either but USA is the centre of the internet 17:00:45 <zlopez> I added this to future learning topics 17:01:07 <nirik> it's an excellent excuse to eat too much. ;) 17:01:18 <mobrien21> zlopez we could ask aurelian to do that one maybe? 17:01:34 <eddiejennings> For me it's a day off of work :D 17:01:35 <lenkaseg__> we're out of time, so I'll end the meeting here 17:01:40 <lenkaseg__> #endmeeting 17:01:53 <eddiejennings> Thanks lenkaseg__ 17:01:54 <zlopez> mobrien21: We have a topic for next week, so this could be for the future talk 17:01:58 <eddiejennings> lenkaseg__++ 17:02:00 <mobrien21> Thanks lenkaseg 17:02:09 <zlopez> lenkaseg++ 17:02:09 <zodbot> zlopez: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:02:18 <mobrien21> lenkaseg++ 17:02:32 <lenkaseg__> Thanks everybody! 17:02:33 <pmoura> lenkaseg++ 17:02:33 <zodbot> pmoura: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:03:02 <nirik> lenkaseg++ 17:03:02 <zodbot> nirik: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:03:08 <leothecat> lenkaseg++ 17:03:08 <zodbot> leothecat: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 4 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:03:19 <nirik> fresh cookies. :) 17:03:22 <leothecat> thanks o/ 17:03:31 <mobrien21> I don't think zodbot took the endmeeting 17:03:57 <mobrien21> #endmeeting 17:04:02 <lenkaseg__> ah, I guess I have to do it with the matrix nickname 17:04:55 <lenkaseg__> which is not happening either :) 17:11:07 <nb> .listmeetings 17:11:07 <zodbot> nb: An error has occurred and has been logged. 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Check the logs for more information. 17:12:00 <nb> #endmeeting 17:12:07 <nb> nirik ideas? 17:13:27 * nb looks for logs 17:13:34 <leothecat> wow haha its rlly broken 17:15:22 <lenkaseg> #topic announcements and information 17:15:28 <lenkaseg> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting 17:15:28 <LenkaSegura[m]> Does this message pass? 17:15:28 <mobrien> I can see the messages on Matrix but not irc 17:15:28 <lenkaseg> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 17:15:29 <mkonecny> Same 17:15:29 <lenkaseg> #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request 17:15:29 <nirik[m]> yeah, it seems pretty much completely disconnected now. ;( 17:15:30 <nirik[m]> I'd say continue on irc, because zodbot is there. 17:15:30 <lenkaseg> I see the irc messages on irc and matrix messages on matrix :) 17:15:30 <lenkaseg> nirik: I did, but my messages don't pass there on hexchat...weird 17:15:30 <lenkaseg> #endmeeting