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16:00:14 <mobrien55> I use https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/ whenever matrix acts up. its a web irc client
16:00:22 <lenkaseg> #topic greetings!
16:00:32 <mobrien55> .hello2 mobrien
16:00:33 <leothecat> .hello leo
16:00:33 <zodbot> mobrien55: Sorry, but user 'mobrien55' does not exist
16:00:36 <eddiejennings> .hi
16:00:36 <zodbot> leothecat: leo 'Leo Puvilland' <lpuvilla0001@mymail.lausd.net>
16:00:38 <nirik> morning
16:00:39 <zodbot> eddiejennings: eddiejennings 'Eddie Jennings' <eddie@eddiejennings.net>
16:00:40 <mobrien55> .hello mobrien
16:00:42 <zodbot> mobrien55: mobrien 'Mark O'Brien' <markobri@redhat.com>
16:00:45 <pmoura> .hello phsmoura
16:00:46 <zodbot> pmoura: phsmoura 'Pedro Moura' <moura.pedro123@gmail.com>
16:00:47 <zlopez> .hi
16:00:51 <zodbot> zlopez: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' <michal.konecny@psmail.xyz>
16:01:02 <leothecat> i need to change my email to @ my domain :P
16:01:04 <austinpowered> .hi
16:01:05 <zodbot> austinpowered: austinpowered 'T.C. Williams' <fedoraproject@wootenwilliams.com>
16:01:12 <lenkaseg> .hi
16:01:13 <zodbot> lenkaseg: lenkaseg 'Lenka Segura' <lenka@sepu.cz>
16:01:21 <nirik> I think it didn't get the meeting name right
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16:01:27 <lenkaseg> #topic New folks introductions
16:01:33 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
16:01:33 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
16:01:42 <lenkaseg> #topic New folks introductions
16:02:39 <mobrien55> lenkaseg you will need to copy/paste the lines one by one on matrix
16:02:40 * nirik doesn't see any new folks off hand...
16:03:02 <lenkaseg> Ok! Will do that.
16:03:08 <lenkaseg> #chair nirik siddharthvipul mobrien zlopez pingou bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak computerkid
16:03:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: bodanel computerkid dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg mobrien nirik pingou siddharthvipul zlopez
16:03:22 <lenkaseg> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
16:03:31 <lenkaseg> #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
16:03:47 <lenkaseg> Any newcomers today?
16:04:11 <jg-dev> Hi everyone, I am a newcomer
16:04:24 <nirik> welcome jg-dev !
16:04:25 <eddiejennings> jg-dev: Welcome :D
16:04:25 <leothecat> hello o/
16:04:28 <leothecat> welcome
16:04:30 <jg-dev> I dropped a message on the mailing list earlier in the week, my name is jason :)
16:04:33 <lenkaseg> Hello jg-dev !
16:04:48 <jg-dev> Hi everyone
16:04:57 <mobrien55> welcome jg-dev!
16:04:58 <leothecat> welcome jason :)
16:05:10 <lenkaseg> jg-dev: Do you want to share your background, interests and so on?
16:05:20 <mobrien55> feel free to reach out on #fedora-admin if you need help with anything
16:05:38 <zlopez> welcome jg-dev
16:05:57 <lenkaseg> #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
16:06:00 <jg-dev> sure, I am pretty new to all of this, but I like to dabble with bash, python, and AWS and some IoT bits
16:06:32 <jg-dev> intersted to learn more / get involved with these kind of things
16:06:40 <lenkaseg> Thanks for introduction jg-dev
16:06:45 <jg-dev> no worries
16:07:50 <lenkaseg> Anybody else new here?
16:08:44 <lenkaseg> Ok, let's move on
16:08:51 <lenkaseg> #topic Next chair
16:08:55 <lenkaseg> #info magic eight ball says:
16:09:01 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2021-11-04 -  lenkaseg
16:09:05 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2021-11-11 - nirik
16:09:11 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2021-11-18 - eddiejennings
16:09:43 <lenkaseg> some volunteer for 11-25?
16:09:58 <mkonecny> I can take it
16:10:10 <eddiejennings> I hear you get paid extra for chairing on Thanksgiving :D
16:10:31 <leothecat> haha
16:10:45 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2021-11-25 - zlopez
16:10:56 <mkonecny> eddiejennings:  We don't have it here :D
16:11:04 <mkonecny> No extra money for me than :D
16:11:16 <eddiejennings> alas
16:11:57 <lenkaseg> Ok, next topic, that would be...
16:13:39 <leothecat> status?
16:13:46 <lenkaseg__> mmm...I don;t see the messages from Element on hexchat
16:14:05 <lenkaseg__> #topic announcements and information
16:14:10 <zlopez> It looks like the bridge is down again
16:14:41 <lenkaseg__> In case the messages start arriving from Element, don't be alarmed :)
16:14:44 <nirik> it is like the time it for our meeting. sheesh
16:14:45 <lenkaseg__> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting
16:16:06 <lenkaseg__> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
16:16:19 <lenkaseg__> #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
16:18:20 <leothecat> matrix broke?
16:18:29 <zlopez> Seems like it
16:18:31 <nirik> yeah, bridge seems down
16:19:04 <lenkaseg__> This is me from hexchat
16:19:15 <nirik> I see that from here on irc, lenkaseg__
16:19:28 <lenkaseg__> Ok then, let's continue
16:19:38 <lenkaseg__> #info Fedora 35 Beta was released on 2021-09-28
16:20:14 <lenkaseg__> There is some old info about Fedora 35 Final freeze, but as I understood that is over now, right?
16:20:23 <nirik> yep. It's over, you can drop that.
16:20:35 <mobrien21> I think we can remove the beta info as well now that the final release is out
16:20:40 <lenkaseg__> so instead:
16:20:51 <lenkaseg__> #info Fedora 35 is out!
16:21:08 <leothecat> yay \o/
16:21:19 <nirik> yep.
16:21:33 <zlopez> \o/
16:21:38 <lenkaseg__> congratulations!
16:21:50 <leothecat> i gotta upgrade :D
16:22:01 <lenkaseg__> And it seems to be all from announcements
16:22:47 <lenkaseg__> Somebody has something more to announce?
16:23:31 <lenkaseg__> let's move to another topic then
16:23:39 <lenkaseg__> #topic Oncall
16:23:45 <lenkaseg__> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
16:23:53 <lenkaseg__> #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
16:24:02 <lenkaseg__> #info nirik on call from 2021-10-21 to 2021-10-28
16:24:18 <lenkaseg__> oh, that was old
16:24:26 <lenkaseg__> ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus
16:24:29 <mobrien21> Put me down for the next available on call
16:24:50 <eddiejennings> I should be oncall 11/11 - 11/18
16:24:53 <leothecat> :o my oncall starts today
16:24:58 <lenkaseg__> ok mobrien21!
16:25:06 <lenkaseg__> #info darknao on call from 2021-10-28 to 2021-11-04
16:25:10 <leothecat> from 2021-11-04 to 2021-11-11
16:25:12 <lenkaseg__> #info leothecat on call from 2021-11-04 to 2021-11-11
16:25:16 <lenkaseg__> #info eddiejennings on call from 2021-11-11 to 2021-11-18
16:25:22 <lenkaseg__> #info LenkaSegura on call from 2021-11-25 to 2021-12-02
16:25:46 <eddiejennings> looks like we need 11/18 - 11/25
16:26:11 <lenkaseg__> #info mobrien21 on call from 2021-12-02 to 2021-12-09
16:26:32 <lenkaseg__> #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall )
16:26:51 <lenkaseg__> How was the last week of oncall darknao?
16:27:43 <mobrien21> eddiejennings is right we are missing 11/18 - 11/25
16:28:11 <mobrien21> I can do that instead, best to have a european on thanksgiving week anyway
16:28:15 <lenkaseg__> eddiejennings: yep. mobrien21, would you mid taking that week?
16:28:15 <nirik> do note that 11/25 is a holiday in the US... US folks may not be around and that week may be pretty quiet. ;)
16:28:26 <zlopez> mobrien21: Maybe this week will be removed from calendar :-D
16:29:23 <lenkaseg__> I see you message mobrien, it's yours!
16:29:52 <lenkaseg__> #info mobrien21 on call from 2021-11-18 to 2021-11-25
16:31:12 <lenkaseg__> no report from darknao (or at least didn't get through for me to see)
16:31:54 <mobrien21> cant say I noticed any oncall pings this week on fedora-admin
16:31:56 <lenkaseg__> let's move on
16:32:12 * eddiejennings didn't notice any either.
16:32:15 <lenkaseg__> #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
16:32:21 <nirik> lets see...
16:32:55 <nirik> we only have 1 down host, and it's a arm builder that is... sadly dead. So, we should likely just remove it from inventory now.
16:33:00 * leothecat didn't see any
16:33:09 <leothecat> ah ):
16:33:19 <leothecat> that's not good
16:33:31 <nirik> there's a f35-test vpn alert pending...
16:33:42 <nirik> I assume thats due to that machine being brought up
16:34:00 <mobrien21> I'll investigate that later today
16:34:07 <nirik> there's a mdapi alert, it's broken currently...
16:34:21 <nirik> https://pagure.io/mdapi/issue/119
16:34:38 <nirik> if someone wants to make a PR to fix that that would be lovely.
16:35:19 <nirik> There has also been some flapping on koji, but I am not sure whats going on there...
16:35:24 <leothecat> i could look into the pr :)
16:35:38 <nirik> leothecat: awesome
16:35:48 <nirik> ok, I think thats about it... we can move along now.
16:36:19 <lenkaseg__> Alright! Next we have: backlog refinement!
16:36:27 <lenkaseg__> #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement
16:36:34 <lenkaseg__> #info Refine oldest tickets on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues
16:36:52 <leothecat> yay
16:36:59 <lenkaseg__> from what I see, the last modified would be
16:37:16 <lenkaseg__> ## .ticket #5478
16:37:23 <lenkaseg__> .ticket #5478
16:37:23 <zodbot> lenkaseg__: Error: '#5478' is not a valid integer.
16:37:29 <lenkaseg__> .ticket 5478
16:37:30 <zodbot> lenkaseg__: Issue #5478: Establishing a new FAS group for Python-SIG - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5478
16:37:32 <nirik> yeah, it's picky. ;)
16:37:35 <lenkaseg__> here we go
16:37:52 <nirik> this one is blocked on newer mailman, which is blocked on packaging work
16:38:02 <leothecat> what's the packaging issue?
16:39:29 <mobrien21> I wonder should we close it to be reopened if the packaging issue gets fixed?
16:39:31 <nirik> .ticket 8455
16:39:32 <zodbot> nirik: Issue #8455: Move mailman to newer release of Fedora or CentOS - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8455
16:39:46 <nirik> it's blocked by that one.
16:40:17 <zlopez> I tried to package mailman3 for CentOS 8 Stream and it's really a pain to package it
16:40:43 <nirik> mailman3 is in fedora... but we need now also hyperkitty and postorious
16:41:24 <nirik> anyhow, how about I update that ticket asking if it's still needed or if there's any other way forward and then it will be modified so we can stop talking about it every refinement. ;)
16:41:50 <zlopez> nirik: +1
16:41:54 <mobrien21> +1
16:42:03 <leothecat> so we need to package hyperkitty?
16:42:05 <leothecat> +1
16:42:38 <nirik> yes, thats the archiver and postorious thats the admin interface.
16:42:43 <lenkaseg__> next ticket?
16:42:58 <nirik> yep
16:42:59 <lenkaseg__> .ticket 9691
16:43:00 <mobrien21> I think for mailman3 hyperkitty and postorious are packaged together as mailman-web right?
16:43:00 <zodbot> lenkaseg__: Issue #9691: STG: Move vmguests from vmhost-x86-01/02/03 to vmhost-x86-11/12 - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9691
16:43:25 <nirik> mobrien21: no idea. ;)
16:43:44 <nirik> so, we need to do this... I think it needs to be me or mobrien21 as it needs sysadmin-main...
16:44:00 <leothecat> yep :P
16:44:22 <mobrien21> This has been on my list to do in spare time that never seems to exist. I will get to it...
16:44:54 <nirik> yeah, I was hoping to work on it some too... so whoever gets to it first I guess?
16:45:09 <mobrien21> +1
16:45:11 <zlopez> This looks like a race :-)
16:45:35 <nirik> ha
16:45:54 <mobrien21> The worlds slowest race :')
16:46:02 <nb> hi
16:46:03 <nirik> will update ticket with that info
16:46:18 <leothecat> nirik question for https://pagure.io/mdapi/issue/119
16:46:32 <nb> nirik mobrien21 ping me when you work on 9691 - I would like to see how
16:46:37 <nb> if i'm not busy at work
16:46:38 <leothecat> do we also change Fedora EPEL to Fedora Linux EPEL
16:46:54 <nb> leothecat no. I don't think so
16:46:59 <leothecat> k
16:47:00 <nb> Fedora Linux is a product.  Fedora EPEL is another product
16:47:06 <nb> although that's just MHO
16:47:07 <nirik> leothecat: no, we didn't.
16:47:19 <mobrien21> nb will do
16:47:33 <nirik> nb: cool. It's not hard... just takes time
16:49:01 <nirik> next?
16:49:06 <zlopez> I think we can go to next ticket
16:49:11 <lenkaseg__> .ticket 8657
16:49:12 <zodbot> lenkaseg__: Issue #8657: `fedpkg module-build` fails with "The modulemd libreoffice.yaml is invalid. Please verify the syntax is correct." upon buildopts: arches: [x86_64] - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8657
16:50:26 <zlopez> Is this still relevant?
16:50:31 <leothecat> nirik: https://pagure.io/mdapi/pull-request/120 looks good?
16:52:00 <nirik> so, on this one... I am not sure. We could just ask them to file on mbs... I wish we could hear from briley on it.
16:53:18 <nirik> since this is a service we just provide hosting for, it would make more sense to ask them to file upstream...
16:54:36 <zlopez> +1
16:55:01 <lenkaseg__> we have alst 6 mins, next ticket or open floor?
16:55:08 <nirik> [09:54:38] <breilly> nirik: ah, right. I believe this is a bug in MBS that hasn't been resolved yet. refiling would be best
16:55:20 <nirik> so, will close and ask them to file upstream.
16:55:31 <nirik> either way
16:56:11 <lenkaseg__> in that case
16:56:13 <lenkaseg__> #topic Open Floor
16:56:39 <zlopez> floor is lava
16:56:46 <eddiejennings> minor thing:  motd for #fedora-admin and #fedora-noc need to be updated
16:56:46 <leothecat> did a quick mdapi pr should fix it? lmk if i made a mistake
16:56:46 <leothecat> haha
16:57:25 <mobrien21> I'm not sure if this was done before but would people be interested in a learning topic on how Large Fedora issues get done?
16:57:50 <lenkaseg__> mobrien21: I would!
16:57:59 <mobrien21> The process from request through to completion
16:58:14 <nirik> leothecat: it seems ok to me, but I would defer to someone who knows that codebase better...
16:58:19 <leothecat> okay
16:58:23 <leothecat> +1 on the learning topic
16:58:33 <mobrien21> Ok I'll put it on the board
16:58:49 <lenkaseg__> Ok, thanks mobrien21!
16:59:23 <lenkaseg__> That would be 11-25
16:59:35 <mobrien21> I won't do it thanksgiving so we may do 2 weeks in a row of learning topic
16:59:50 <mobrien21> so 11-18?
16:59:56 <zlopez> I added one I talk about with something
17:00:05 <lenkaseg__> keep forgetting about the thanksgiving, not a thing here in Spain :)
17:00:35 <zlopez> I would be interested how Fedora is doing migrations of big databases with live data, like datanommer
17:00:38 <mobrien21> Not here in Ireland either but USA is the centre of the internet
17:00:45 <zlopez> I added this to future learning topics
17:01:07 <nirik> it's an excellent excuse to eat too much. ;)
17:01:18 <mobrien21> zlopez we could ask aurelian to do that one maybe?
17:01:34 <eddiejennings> For me it's a day off of work :D
17:01:35 <lenkaseg__> we're out of time, so I'll end the meeting here
17:01:40 <lenkaseg__> #endmeeting
17:01:53 <eddiejennings> Thanks lenkaseg__
17:01:54 <zlopez> mobrien21: We have a topic for next week, so this could be for the future talk
17:01:58 <eddiejennings> lenkaseg__++
17:02:00 <mobrien21> Thanks lenkaseg
17:02:09 <zlopez> lenkaseg++
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17:02:18 <mobrien21> lenkaseg++
17:02:32 <lenkaseg__> Thanks everybody!
17:02:33 <pmoura> lenkaseg++
17:02:33 <zodbot> pmoura: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 2 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:03:02 <nirik> lenkaseg++
17:03:02 <zodbot> nirik: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:03:08 <leothecat> lenkaseg++
17:03:08 <zodbot> leothecat: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 4 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:03:19 <nirik> fresh cookies. :)
17:03:22 <leothecat> thanks o/
17:03:31 <mobrien21> I don't think zodbot took the endmeeting
17:03:57 <mobrien21> #endmeeting
17:04:02 <lenkaseg__> ah, I guess I have to do it with the matrix nickname
17:04:55 <lenkaseg__> which is not happening either :)
17:11:07 <nb> .listmeetings
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17:11:17 <nb> hmm
17:11:35 <nb> #endmeeting
17:11:41 <nb> .addchair libera nb
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17:12:00 <nb> #endmeeting
17:12:07 <nb> nirik ideas?
17:13:27 * nb looks for logs
17:13:34 <leothecat> wow haha its rlly broken
17:15:22 <lenkaseg> #topic announcements and information
17:15:28 <lenkaseg> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting
17:15:28 <LenkaSegura[m]> Does this message pass?
17:15:28 <mobrien> I can see the messages on Matrix but not irc
17:15:28 <lenkaseg> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
17:15:29 <mkonecny> Same
17:15:29 <lenkaseg> #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
17:15:29 <nirik[m]> yeah, it seems pretty much completely disconnected now. ;(
17:15:30 <nirik[m]> I'd say continue on irc, because zodbot is there.
17:15:30 <lenkaseg> I see the irc messages on irc and matrix messages on matrix :)
17:15:30 <lenkaseg> nirik: I did, but my messages don't pass there on hexchat...weird
17:15:30 <lenkaseg> #endmeeting