16:00:09 #startmeeting Infrastructure (2021-11-04)... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c4bc01334f231cea951bc92aae4544b67483b69b) 16:00:09 Meeting started Thu Nov 4 16:00:09 2021 UTC. 16:00:09 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:00:09 The chair is lenkaseg. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:00:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:09 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2021-11-04)..._(full_message_at_https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/c4bc01334f231cea951bc92aae4544b67483b69b)' 16:00:14 I use https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/ whenever matrix acts up. its a web irc client 16:00:22 #topic greetings! 16:00:32 .hello2 mobrien 16:00:33 .hello leo 16:00:33 mobrien55: Sorry, but user 'mobrien55' does not exist 16:00:36 .hi 16:00:36 leothecat: leo 'Leo Puvilland' 16:00:38 morning 16:00:39 eddiejennings: eddiejennings 'Eddie Jennings' 16:00:40 .hello mobrien 16:00:42 mobrien55: mobrien 'Mark O'Brien' 16:00:45 .hello phsmoura 16:00:46 pmoura: phsmoura 'Pedro Moura' 16:00:47 .hi 16:00:51 zlopez: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' 16:01:02 i need to change my email to @ my domain :P 16:01:04 .hi 16:01:05 austinpowered: austinpowered 'T.C. Williams' 16:01:12 .hi 16:01:13 lenkaseg: lenkaseg 'Lenka Segura' 16:01:21 I think it didn't get the meeting name right 16:01:26 ``` 16:01:27 #topic New folks introductions 16:01:33 #meetingname infrastructure 16:01:33 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 16:01:42 #topic New folks introductions 16:02:39 lenkaseg you will need to copy/paste the lines one by one on matrix 16:02:40 * nirik doesn't see any new folks off hand... 16:03:02 Ok! Will do that. 16:03:08 #chair nirik siddharthvipul mobrien zlopez pingou bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak computerkid 16:03:08 Current chairs: bodanel computerkid dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg mobrien nirik pingou siddharthvipul zlopez 16:03:22 #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra 16:03:31 #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ 16:03:47 Any newcomers today? 16:04:11 Hi everyone, I am a newcomer 16:04:24 welcome jg-dev ! 16:04:25 jg-dev: Welcome :D 16:04:25 hello o/ 16:04:28 welcome 16:04:30 I dropped a message on the mailing list earlier in the week, my name is jason :) 16:04:33 Hello jg-dev ! 16:04:48 Hi everyone 16:04:57 welcome jg-dev! 16:04:58 welcome jason :) 16:05:10 jg-dev: Do you want to share your background, interests and so on? 16:05:20 feel free to reach out on #fedora-admin if you need help with anything 16:05:38 welcome jg-dev 16:05:57 #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted 16:06:00 sure, I am pretty new to all of this, but I like to dabble with bash, python, and AWS and some IoT bits 16:06:32 intersted to learn more / get involved with these kind of things 16:06:40 Thanks for introduction jg-dev 16:06:45 no worries 16:07:50 Anybody else new here? 16:08:44 Ok, let's move on 16:08:51 #topic Next chair 16:08:55 #info magic eight ball says: 16:09:01 #info chair 2021-11-04 - lenkaseg 16:09:05 #info chair 2021-11-11 - nirik 16:09:11 #info chair 2021-11-18 - eddiejennings 16:09:43 some volunteer for 11-25? 16:09:58 I can take it 16:10:10 I hear you get paid extra for chairing on Thanksgiving :D 16:10:31 haha 16:10:45 #info chair 2021-11-25 - zlopez 16:10:56 eddiejennings: We don't have it here :D 16:11:04 No extra money for me than :D 16:11:16 alas 16:11:57 Ok, next topic, that would be... 16:13:39 status? 16:13:46 mmm...I don;t see the messages from Element on hexchat 16:14:05 #topic announcements and information 16:14:10 It looks like the bridge is down again 16:14:41 In case the messages start arriving from Element, don't be alarmed :) 16:14:44 it is like the time it for our meeting. sheesh 16:14:45 #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting 16:16:06 #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 16:16:19 #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request 16:18:20 matrix broke? 16:18:29 Seems like it 16:18:31 yeah, bridge seems down 16:19:04 This is me from hexchat 16:19:15 I see that from here on irc, lenkaseg__ 16:19:28 Ok then, let's continue 16:19:38 #info Fedora 35 Beta was released on 2021-09-28 16:20:14 There is some old info about Fedora 35 Final freeze, but as I understood that is over now, right? 16:20:23 yep. It's over, you can drop that. 16:20:35 I think we can remove the beta info as well now that the final release is out 16:20:40 so instead: 16:20:51 #info Fedora 35 is out! 16:21:08 yay \o/ 16:21:19 yep. 16:21:33 \o/ 16:21:38 congratulations! 16:21:50 i gotta upgrade :D 16:22:01 And it seems to be all from announcements 16:22:47 Somebody has something more to announce? 16:23:31 let's move to another topic then 16:23:39 #topic Oncall 16:23:45 #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall 16:23:53 #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/ 16:24:02 #info nirik on call from 2021-10-21 to 2021-10-28 16:24:18 oh, that was old 16:24:26 ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus 16:24:29 Put me down for the next available on call 16:24:50 I should be oncall 11/11 - 11/18 16:24:53 :o my oncall starts today 16:24:58 ok mobrien21! 16:25:06 #info darknao on call from 2021-10-28 to 2021-11-04 16:25:10 from 2021-11-04 to 2021-11-11 16:25:12 #info leothecat on call from 2021-11-04 to 2021-11-11 16:25:16 #info eddiejennings on call from 2021-11-11 to 2021-11-18 16:25:22 #info LenkaSegura on call from 2021-11-25 to 2021-12-02 16:25:46 looks like we need 11/18 - 11/25 16:26:11 #info mobrien21 on call from 2021-12-02 to 2021-12-09 16:26:32 #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) 16:26:51 How was the last week of oncall darknao? 16:27:43 eddiejennings is right we are missing 11/18 - 11/25 16:28:11 I can do that instead, best to have a european on thanksgiving week anyway 16:28:15 eddiejennings: yep. mobrien21, would you mid taking that week? 16:28:15 do note that 11/25 is a holiday in the US... US folks may not be around and that week may be pretty quiet. ;) 16:28:26 mobrien21: Maybe this week will be removed from calendar :-D 16:29:23 I see you message mobrien, it's yours! 16:29:52 #info mobrien21 on call from 2021-11-18 to 2021-11-25 16:31:12 no report from darknao (or at least didn't get through for me to see) 16:31:54 cant say I noticed any oncall pings this week on fedora-admin 16:31:56 let's move on 16:32:12 * eddiejennings didn't notice any either. 16:32:15 #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik] 16:32:21 lets see... 16:32:55 we only have 1 down host, and it's a arm builder that is... sadly dead. So, we should likely just remove it from inventory now. 16:33:00 * leothecat didn't see any 16:33:09 ah ): 16:33:19 that's not good 16:33:31 there's a f35-test vpn alert pending... 16:33:42 I assume thats due to that machine being brought up 16:34:00 I'll investigate that later today 16:34:07 there's a mdapi alert, it's broken currently... 16:34:21 https://pagure.io/mdapi/issue/119 16:34:38 if someone wants to make a PR to fix that that would be lovely. 16:35:19 There has also been some flapping on koji, but I am not sure whats going on there... 16:35:24 i could look into the pr :) 16:35:38 leothecat: awesome 16:35:48 ok, I think thats about it... we can move along now. 16:36:19 Alright! Next we have: backlog refinement! 16:36:27 #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement 16:36:34 #info Refine oldest tickets on https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues 16:36:52 yay 16:36:59 from what I see, the last modified would be 16:37:16 ## .ticket #5478 16:37:23 .ticket #5478 16:37:23 lenkaseg__: Error: '#5478' is not a valid integer. 16:37:29 .ticket 5478 16:37:30 lenkaseg__: Issue #5478: Establishing a new FAS group for Python-SIG - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5478 16:37:32 yeah, it's picky. ;) 16:37:35 here we go 16:37:52 this one is blocked on newer mailman, which is blocked on packaging work 16:38:02 what's the packaging issue? 16:39:29 I wonder should we close it to be reopened if the packaging issue gets fixed? 16:39:31 .ticket 8455 16:39:32 nirik: Issue #8455: Move mailman to newer release of Fedora or CentOS - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8455 16:39:46 it's blocked by that one. 16:40:17 I tried to package mailman3 for CentOS 8 Stream and it's really a pain to package it 16:40:43 mailman3 is in fedora... but we need now also hyperkitty and postorious 16:41:24 anyhow, how about I update that ticket asking if it's still needed or if there's any other way forward and then it will be modified so we can stop talking about it every refinement. ;) 16:41:50 nirik: +1 16:41:54 +1 16:42:03 so we need to package hyperkitty? 16:42:05 +1 16:42:38 yes, thats the archiver and postorious thats the admin interface. 16:42:43 next ticket? 16:42:58 yep 16:42:59 .ticket 9691 16:43:00 I think for mailman3 hyperkitty and postorious are packaged together as mailman-web right? 16:43:00 lenkaseg__: Issue #9691: STG: Move vmguests from vmhost-x86-01/02/03 to vmhost-x86-11/12 - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9691 16:43:25 mobrien21: no idea. ;) 16:43:44 so, we need to do this... I think it needs to be me or mobrien21 as it needs sysadmin-main... 16:44:00 yep :P 16:44:22 This has been on my list to do in spare time that never seems to exist. I will get to it... 16:44:54 yeah, I was hoping to work on it some too... so whoever gets to it first I guess? 16:45:09 +1 16:45:11 This looks like a race :-) 16:45:35 ha 16:45:54 The worlds slowest race :') 16:46:02 hi 16:46:03 will update ticket with that info 16:46:18 nirik question for https://pagure.io/mdapi/issue/119 16:46:32 nirik mobrien21 ping me when you work on 9691 - I would like to see how 16:46:37 if i'm not busy at work 16:46:38 do we also change Fedora EPEL to Fedora Linux EPEL 16:46:54 leothecat no. I don't think so 16:46:59 k 16:47:00 Fedora Linux is a product. Fedora EPEL is another product 16:47:06 although that's just MHO 16:47:07 leothecat: no, we didn't. 16:47:19 nb will do 16:47:33 nb: cool. It's not hard... just takes time 16:49:01 next? 16:49:06 I think we can go to next ticket 16:49:11 .ticket 8657 16:49:12 lenkaseg__: Issue #8657: `fedpkg module-build` fails with "The modulemd libreoffice.yaml is invalid. Please verify the syntax is correct." upon buildopts: arches: [x86_64] - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8657 16:50:26 Is this still relevant? 16:50:31 nirik: https://pagure.io/mdapi/pull-request/120 looks good? 16:52:00 so, on this one... I am not sure. We could just ask them to file on mbs... I wish we could hear from briley on it. 16:53:18 since this is a service we just provide hosting for, it would make more sense to ask them to file upstream... 16:54:36 +1 16:55:01 we have alst 6 mins, next ticket or open floor? 16:55:08 [09:54:38] nirik: ah, right. I believe this is a bug in MBS that hasn't been resolved yet. refiling would be best 16:55:20 so, will close and ask them to file upstream. 16:55:31 either way 16:56:11 in that case 16:56:13 #topic Open Floor 16:56:39 floor is lava 16:56:46 minor thing: motd for #fedora-admin and #fedora-noc need to be updated 16:56:46 did a quick mdapi pr should fix it? lmk if i made a mistake 16:56:46 haha 16:57:25 I'm not sure if this was done before but would people be interested in a learning topic on how Large Fedora issues get done? 16:57:50 mobrien21: I would! 16:57:59 The process from request through to completion 16:58:14 leothecat: it seems ok to me, but I would defer to someone who knows that codebase better... 16:58:19 okay 16:58:23 +1 on the learning topic 16:58:33 Ok I'll put it on the board 16:58:49 Ok, thanks mobrien21! 16:59:23 That would be 11-25 16:59:35 I won't do it thanksgiving so we may do 2 weeks in a row of learning topic 16:59:50 so 11-18? 16:59:56 I added one I talk about with something 17:00:05 keep forgetting about the thanksgiving, not a thing here in Spain :) 17:00:35 I would be interested how Fedora is doing migrations of big databases with live data, like datanommer 17:00:38 Not here in Ireland either but USA is the centre of the internet 17:00:45 I added this to future learning topics 17:01:07 it's an excellent excuse to eat too much. ;) 17:01:18 zlopez we could ask aurelian to do that one maybe? 17:01:34 For me it's a day off of work :D 17:01:35 we're out of time, so I'll end the meeting here 17:01:40 #endmeeting 17:01:53 Thanks lenkaseg__ 17:01:54 mobrien21: We have a topic for next week, so this could be for the future talk 17:01:58 lenkaseg__++ 17:02:00 Thanks lenkaseg 17:02:09 lenkaseg++ 17:02:09 zlopez: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 1 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:02:18 lenkaseg++ 17:02:32 Thanks everybody! 17:02:33 lenkaseg++ 17:02:33 pmoura: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:03:02 lenkaseg++ 17:03:02 nirik: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:03:08 lenkaseg++ 17:03:08 leothecat: Karma for lenkaseg changed to 4 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:03:19 fresh cookies. :) 17:03:22 thanks o/ 17:03:31 I don't think zodbot took the endmeeting 17:03:57 #endmeeting 17:04:02 ah, I guess I have to do it with the matrix nickname 17:04:55 which is not happening either :) 17:11:07 .listmeetings 17:11:07 nb: An error has occurred and has been logged. 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Check the logs for more information. 17:12:00 #endmeeting 17:12:07 nirik ideas? 17:13:27 * nb looks for logs 17:13:34 wow haha its rlly broken 17:15:22 #topic announcements and information 17:15:28 #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting 17:15:28 Does this message pass? 17:15:28 I can see the messages on Matrix but not irc 17:15:28 #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 17:15:29 Same 17:15:29 #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request 17:15:29 yeah, it seems pretty much completely disconnected now. ;( 17:15:30 I'd say continue on irc, because zodbot is there. 17:15:30 I see the irc messages on irc and matrix messages on matrix :) 17:15:30 nirik: I did, but my messages don't pass there on hexchat...weird 17:15:30 #endmeeting