16:01:04 <lenkaseg> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2023-07-13) 16:01:04 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 13 16:01:04 2023 UTC. 16:01:04 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:01:04 <zodbot> The chair is lenkaseg. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 16:01:04 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:01:04 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2023-07-13)' 16:01:35 <lenkaseg> #meetingname infrastructure 16:01:35 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 16:01:41 <lenkaseg> #chair nirik zlopez nb bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg 16:01:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak lenkaseg nb nirik zlopez 16:01:49 <lenkaseg> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra 16:01:56 <lenkaseg> #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ 16:02:01 <nirik> morning 16:02:03 <lenkaseg> #info Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra 16:02:10 <lenkaseg> #topic greetings! 16:02:11 <mkonecny> .hello zlopez 16:02:12 <zodbot> mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konecny' <michal.konecny@pacse.eu> 16:02:18 <lenkaseg> hello everybody! 16:02:20 <lenkaseg> .hi 16:02:21 <zodbot> lenkaseg: lenkaseg 'Lenka Segura' <lenka@sepu.cz> 16:02:54 <lenkaseg> Welcome in our weekly infrastructure meeting! 16:03:06 <smooge> hello 16:03:29 <lenkaseg> smooge: o/ 16:03:54 <lenkaseg> Hi nirik, hi zlopez! 16:04:03 <eddiejenningsjr> .hello eddiejennings 16:04:04 <zodbot> eddiejenningsjr: eddiejennings 'Eddie Jennings' <eddie@eddiejennings.net> 16:04:27 <lenkaseg> hi Eddie! 16:04:36 <lenkaseg> #topic New folks introductions 16:04:48 <lenkaseg> Any newcomers today? 16:04:56 <lenkaseg> Say hi! 16:05:13 <pcreech[m]> .hello pcreech17 16:05:14 <zodbot> pcreech[m]: pcreech17 'Patrick Creech' <pcreech@redhat.com> 16:05:15 <lenkaseg> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves 16:05:18 <pcreech[m]> Hi 16:05:25 <lenkaseg> hello pcreech ! Are you new here? 16:05:56 <pcreech[m]> New-ish 16:06:49 <pcreech[m]> Once upon a 2015 an aspiring infra apprentice then life happened 16:07:14 <lenkaseg> Good to see you again! 16:07:26 <smooge> welcome back pcreech[m] 16:07:30 <lenkaseg> #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted 16:07:50 <mkonecny> pcreech: Life always get in the way :-D 16:09:09 <eddiejenningsjr> Life still happening to me, but at least I can attend the weekly meeting :D 16:09:10 <nirik> welcome (back)! 16:09:49 <lenkaseg> let's determine who the next chair will be! 16:09:57 <lenkaseg> #topic Next chair 16:10:03 <lenkaseg> #info magic eight ball says: 16:10:11 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2023-07-13 - lenkaseg 16:10:16 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2023-07-20 - mkonecny 16:10:23 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2023-07-27 - ??? 16:10:37 <lenkaseg> anyone for the July 27? 16:10:50 <eddiejenningsjr> I seem to remember taking 7/27. It coincided with my next on-call week 16:11:09 <lenkaseg> sorry! 16:11:19 <lenkaseg> ok! It was not in the agenda 16:11:19 <dtometzki__> yes i know 16:11:29 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2023-07-27 - eddiejnnings 16:11:32 <dtometzki__> but no update from zodbot 16:11:51 <lenkaseg> now it's there 16:12:29 <eddiejenningsjr> :D 16:12:40 <lenkaseg> does somebody want to take the following week? 16:12:41 <lenkaseg> #info chair 2023-08-03 - ??? 16:13:24 <nirik> That is the week of flock... 16:13:35 <nirik> so a number of folks will be out there. Perhaps we should cancel that week? 16:13:42 <lenkaseg> true, will we skip the meeting? 16:13:55 <lenkaseg> alright 16:14:28 <lenkaseg> let's go to announcements 16:14:36 <lenkaseg> #topic announcements and information 16:14:42 <lenkaseg> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0730 UTC in #centos-meeting 16:14:48 <lenkaseg> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3 16:15:12 <lenkaseg> #info flock to fedora coming up in early aug (2nd-4th in cork, ie) https://flocktofedora.org 16:15:27 <nirik> #info batcave01 moving to rhel9 later today hopefully, there will be a short outage of it. 16:15:48 <lenkaseg> #info next infrastructure weekly meeting cancelled due to flock 16:16:42 <lenkaseg> eh, sorry, not next obviously... 16:17:50 <nirik> yeah, first meeting in aug. We knew what you meant 16:18:16 <lenkaseg> let's move on... 16:18:19 <lenkaseg> #topic Oncall 16:18:28 <lenkaseg> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall 16:18:33 <lenkaseg> #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/ 16:18:42 <lenkaseg> ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus 16:19:12 <lenkaseg> #info eddiejenningsjr is on call from 2023-07-07 to 2023-07-13 16:19:13 <lenkaseg> #info dtometzki is on call from 2023-07-14 to 2023-07-20 16:19:21 <lenkaseg> #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) 16:19:32 <lenkaseg> giving word to eddiejenningsjr 16:20:07 <eddiejenningsjr> I was summoned twice. Once a few days ago for an issue that I cannot recall, but nirik fixed :). Once today with a question about Koji and chroot that was answered. 16:20:52 <dtometzki__> I took over 16:20:57 <lenkaseg> Thanks Eddie Jennings, Jr. ! 16:22:41 <lenkaseg> do we have volunteers for call from 2023-07-21 to 2023-07-28? 16:22:55 <eddiejenningsjr> Me. :) 16:22:57 <lenkaseg> s/call/oncall 16:23:06 <eddiejenningsjr> I like ending on-call with a meeting chair date. 16:23:06 <lenkaseg> Eddie Jennings, Jr.: granted! 16:23:37 <lenkaseg> #info eddiejenningsjr is on call from 2023-07-21 to 2023-07-28? 16:24:00 <lenkaseg> without the question mark... 16:24:31 <lenkaseg> #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik] 16:24:44 <lenkaseg> #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 16:24:44 <nirik> lets see... 16:25:28 <nirik> pretty much as it was last week. I tweaked the old notifications stuff to hopefully alert less often. 16:25:45 <nirik> I think we still need to fix the fedmsg monitoring stuff. 16:25:53 <nirik> Otherwise pretty normal. 16:26:09 <lenkaseg> Thanks nirik ! 16:26:43 <lenkaseg> let's do some backlog refinement! 16:26:53 <lenkaseg> #topic Revisit blocked tickets 16:27:02 <lenkaseg> #info Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked 16:27:08 <lenkaseg> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&priority=0&close_status= 16:28:10 <lenkaseg> 6 blocked issues... any news on any of them? 16:28:24 <mkonecny> .ticket 11245 16:28:25 <zodbot> mkonecny: Issue #11245: DANE TLSA record for fedoraproject.org seems outdated - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11245 16:28:31 <mkonecny> Is this still blocked? 16:28:42 <nirik> I thought ryan closed it? 16:28:52 <mkonecny> Me too 16:29:23 <nirik> oh, he closed the pr but kept the issue. 16:29:36 <nirik> How about another tack here... 16:30:16 <nirik> we update the renew cert doc to include updating the DANE records... 16:30:16 <nirik> (if we have such a doc...) 16:30:38 <mkonecny> We don't have any doc like that? 16:30:46 <nirik> Or we could leave it until we have zabbix. Or we could close it and hope we remember it 16:31:02 <nirik> well, there's a doc in ansible-private about certs... but yeah. 16:31:18 <smooge> i don't remember a doc and I know I did it wrong the last time and I think nb had to fix my attempt 16:31:32 <smooge> or is that DKIM 16:31:53 <smooge> I have broken so many things 16:32:03 <nirik> note that this is the main fedoraproject.org cert we get from digicert. I think only I can do that currently (well, and smooge...) 16:32:16 <nirik> and it only happens once a year 16:32:32 <smooge> that needs to change on my part. what is needed there? 16:32:49 <nirik> I can add people/remove you (I think, will have to check) 16:33:05 <smooge> probably a good idea. 16:33:33 <smooge> i suggest the first person who writes a document on how to update things properly 16:34:32 <mkonecny> It would be nice to document that :-) 16:34:53 <nirik> I've added it to my list. Shall we keep the ticket to track this? 16:35:03 <mkonecny> +1 16:35:24 <mkonecny> We should probably remove the blocked label 16:35:46 <nirik> +1 16:36:34 <lenkaseg> any unblocking news on the other blocked tickets? 16:36:58 <nirik> nope. nothing new 16:37:06 <mkonecny> .ticket 10372 16:37:07 <zodbot> mkonecny: Issue #10372: [proposal] Move Pagure (pagure.io and src.fp.o) to use OIDC for web login - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10372 16:37:15 <mkonecny> I'm currently trying to work on that 16:37:33 <mkonecny> I will see how it will work with tiny-stage 16:38:08 <mkonecny> It seems that most of the things are already prepared, so let me remove the blocked label and I can add it later when I hit any brick wall 16:39:01 <lenkaseg> +1 16:39:25 <nirik> I think ryan was getting tinystage working with pagure tests again for the spam stuff 16:39:58 <mkonecny> Yeah, I knew 16:41:31 <lenkaseg> let's move on to last visited tickets? 16:42:18 <lenkaseg> I take the silence as yes :D 16:42:19 <lenkaseg> #topic Fedora Infra backlog refinement 16:42:28 <lenkaseg> #info Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker 16:42:34 <lenkaseg> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_updated&order=asc 16:43:23 <lenkaseg> .ticket 10458 16:43:24 <zodbot> lenkaseg: Issue #10458: Help me move my discourse bots to production? - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10458 16:43:59 <lenkaseg> (not sure which tickets were discussed recently) 16:44:05 <mkonecny> This is still waiting on mattdm 16:44:28 <lenkaseg> .ticket 11292 16:44:29 <zodbot> lenkaseg: Issue #11292: Allow non packagers to push to distgit forks via ssh - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11292 16:45:44 <lenkaseg> do we put a comment on the tickets that get discussed on the meeting here, so they don't appear as oldest touched next time? Or we have to remember? How does it work? 16:45:45 <nirik> I guess this needs more investigation... or us just saying 'not right now, we will keep it in mind moving forward' or ? 16:46:03 <smooge> I would go for the second option 16:46:12 <smooge> sets expectations better 16:46:24 <mkonecny> lenkaseg: I updating the tickets as we discuss them 16:46:52 <lenkaseg> Zlopez: oh, ok! 16:47:00 <smooge> zlopez++ 16:47:01 <nirik> as a side note: https pushing is broken for me, but I assume it's just me since no one else has complained. 16:47:26 <smooge> i don't think i have done https pushing 16:47:40 <mkonecny> I'm not sure how many people are pushing to forks on dist-git 16:47:41 <nirik> so I am fine closing it, or if we want to try and do it we should investigate it more (perhaps it's an iniative) 16:47:58 <nirik> a fair number I think these days 16:49:12 <mkonecny> We can close it as intiative or upstream ticket for dist-git 16:51:02 <mkonecny> I'm not sure if it's more about deployment or how the dist-git works 16:51:21 <nirik> it's deployment. It's how we setup pagure for dist-git 16:51:58 <nirik> and really it's a hold over from the older pre pagure system 16:52:24 <mkonecny> Let's close it then and ask the reporter to open it as initiative 16:52:41 <mkonecny> Because it obviously isn't an easy task and needs more investigation 16:53:06 <nirik> yeah, it could/should also be fixed more if we move to something else. 16:53:45 <mkonecny> Ok, let me respond to ticket and close it 16:54:18 <lenkaseg> last minutes remaining, let's move on to... 16:54:19 <lenkaseg> #topic Open Floor 16:55:07 <eddiejenningsjr> Come one, come all for next week's meeting! Learning topic: Considerations and tips regarding PyPI vs Distribution Repo installs of Ansible :) 16:55:40 <lenkaseg> Eddie Jennings, Jr.: ++ 16:56:48 <mkonecny> We now have an ads for next meeting :-D 16:57:22 <lenkaseg> how comes it was not advertised in the board!? 16:57:49 <mkonecny> I don't know 16:58:08 <lenkaseg> now it is :) 16:59:41 <lenkaseg> meeting is over, thanks all for attending and see you next week! 16:59:43 <lenkaseg> #endmeeting