15:02:30 #startmeeting 15:02:39 well, this is new. :) 15:02:45 its great 15:02:49 no need to log 15:03:03 rjune_wrk in the eeting chair 15:03:04 I'm doing it today guys, please bear with me 15:03:38 #topic update on components and triagers page refresh (and FAS groups) 15:03:49 that should be arxs 15:04:00 arxs: update? 15:04:18 rjune_wrk: it's done since last week 15:04:30 the version that are now in the wiki is the final one 15:04:41 ok then. 15:04:47 on FAS groups 15:05:07 comphappy is working on having a components page as part of the triage metrics system, using the FAS group 15:05:12 it's not ready yet but it's In Progress 15:05:26 quote: "adamw: the components page is not up yet I was sorting some stuff out with kylev, there is some db trickery that I will have to think about. Also been thinking about the best way to deal with the requests to break down the triage metrics by release. I will get back to you in more detail on that wed" 15:06:04 * sgireesh joined a bit late.. 15:06:10 comphappy_: just talking about you 15:06:56 hey sgireesh / comphappy_, we're walking the agenda, rjune_wrk is leading today 15:06:57 adamw: anything else? 15:07:14 unless comphappy_ wants to add anything (i explained what we talked about last night, brennan) - no 15:07:26 (this is on the components page in triageweb) 15:07:28 What do you need? I am on the run 15:07:41 nothing needed unless you specifically wanted to mention anything :) 15:08:12 Nope 15:08:17 #meetingtopic fedora bugzappers 15:08:26 #topic tk009 to report if he figured out how the 'important component list' was generated 15:08:33 ok 15:08:39 Moving along, tk009? 15:08:46 I have tried to squeeze jds2001 15:08:52 Unless you got any imfo on kernel 15:09:02 that's later 15:09:02 comphappy: that's coming up 15:09:07 but he has not replied to e either in IRC or email 15:09:22 I will be up his butt today 15:09:26 tk009: any other contact method? 15:09:34 STEAMROLLER 15:09:48 going up his butt might require a level of familiarity you don't have. 15:10:04 my foot neds no intro 15:10:08 heh 15:10:22 ok, let's put that off till next week then, yes? 15:10:32 the list 15:10:40 it will be completed before next week 15:12:01 ok 15:12:11 #topic update on kernel triage status 15:12:41 adamw sent out an email to the guys involved, I've not seen anything back, to knowledge neither has adamw or tk009, yes? 15:12:51 yeah, we are waiting on cebbert 15:12:59 if he doesn't reply relatively soon jlaska will escalate 15:13:04 nothing here but I am behind 15:13:12 I have 280 emails to read 15:13:20 just one thing to add - at the retrospective meeting that's going on right now, jon stanley mentioned he's interested in improved kernel qa 15:13:25 so he may be willing to help us out here 15:13:40 adamw: I think it was j-rod who mentioned that 15:13:48 enlighten me, who's he? 15:13:52 oh yes 15:13:57 jarod wilson, rather 15:14:57 he has no people page 15:15:02 bad j-rod 15:15:07 Anything else? 15:15:09 his site is http://wilsonet.com/ 15:15:13 oops, sorry 15:15:58 he does kernel stuff 15:16:01 irc nick is j-rod 15:16:09 i'll try and bring him in on this thing 15:16:43 alright, i think that's it for that topic :) 15:16:48 ok then 15:16:54 #topic request from EPEL project for help with their bug day 15:17:34 so, this is a pretty simple one - we were contacted by michael stahnke, who's involved with EPEL, for help with a test day they have coming up 15:17:57 he also mailed the list (topic "EPEL Bug Day"), and gave a wiki link - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL_Bug_Day_July_2009 15:18:04 date is july 11th 15:18:37 how does this work? 15:18:38 what does he want help with? 15:18:39 for anyone who's unaware, EPEL is a project to provide unofficial extra packages (mainly based on fedora packages) for RHEL 15:18:47 can we change redhat bugs? 15:18:56 no, just epel bugs. ;) 15:19:10 they're not red hat bugs (epel is a separate project), and yeah, we can. 15:19:11 =) 15:19:21 yes, those are good questions and the ones I asked him too :) 15:19:28 look at your bugzilla front page, and you will see there are 140 "Fedora EPEL" bugs... those are the ones we want to run though. 15:19:30 he's promised to provide us more information closer to the time. 15:19:57 * nirik is also happy to provide more info on it. 15:20:02 i think in principle we're happy to help, in practice we need info on what needs doing and then anyone who's around on the day can certainly show up at that event to help out. 15:20:47 anyone disagree/really enthusiastic/have suggestions? 15:20:53 How many bugs that get fixed in fedora are still broken in epel? don't they basically rebuild extras? 15:21:17 is there a difference in the process flow in EPEL? 15:21:35 for triage of EPEL bugs, is a installed RHEL needed? 15:21:49 Will that event happen in #fedora-bugzappers? 15:22:01 "Where: Primary activity will take place on bugzilla and in IRC channel #epel on freenode. " 15:22:07 rjune_wrk: usually maintainers are the same, so any fixes go into epel too. 15:22:37 rhel shouldn't be needed. You could get by with a centos box, or in some cases neither. 15:22:59 nirik: thanks for pointing that out 15:23:14 mostly the idea would be to triage these bugs and see what they are, ping for progress, see if any are easyfix, that kind of thing. 15:23:32 since there are only (ha) 140 of them, we might be able to get though looking at them all at least. 15:24:13 * thomasj should just read the link, thanks anyways adamw 15:24:18 what about sgireesh's process question? 15:24:30 does epel follow the rhel bug flow? fedora bug flow? something different? :) 15:24:42 ah, yes. Good question. I don't think so... epel should follow the fedora bug flow. 15:25:01 ok 15:25:05 fedora bug flow is of course https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow 15:25:07 with some minor differences I guess... 15:25:12 there is no rawhide. 15:25:40 * nirik nods. Yes, epel should follow that same process. 15:27:58 that it for this topic? 15:28:53 think so 15:29:18 Thank you all for coming 15:29:21 #endmeeting