15:04:02 #startmeeting Power management for Fedora 15:04:14 #topic Last week recap 15:04:30 First topic, as each week is a quick recap of last weeks meeting 15:05:47 - Ktune integration work 15:06:08 - Developer conference in Brno 15:06:24 - More work needed on documentation 15:07:02 - skalnik1 presented the HWtable he's been working on 15:08:08 #topic Fedora 12 feature status 15:08:22 lets go over the the current status for F12. 15:09:35 The power management things we're working on is now an accepted Feature for F12, but the actual documentation needs to be updated and completed 15:09:44 which we'll be doing in the next weeks 15:10:19 the actual feature page can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PowerManagementF12 15:11:03 the current status for tuned is that the integration of ktune was finished on Monday. 15:11:19 the new tuning and monitoring plugin for CPU is finished and working 15:11:36 and the updated disk tuning algorithm seems to work as well, but needs more testing 15:12:08 if marcela is here she can probably give us a quick update on the system tuning tool? 15:12:48 hello, http://mmaslano.fedorapeople.org/tuning/ 15:13:06 I change it to look for directories in /etc/tune-profiles 15:13:22 so what we need now is fix bugs in tool and create some predefined profiles 15:13:36 I can add howto to our wiki 15:14:27 thats great! thanks marcela. :) 15:16:42 ad Developer conference, Ivana and me are preparing some howto write "nice" code 15:16:42 i''ve started looking into profiles myself already a bit, so if you could add some directory for them to the git repository so i can put them there that would help a lot. 15:16:54 maybe parts of it could be attached to documentation 15:17:15 very good suggestion, let's do that! 15:18:12 when was the developer conference again? 15:19:04 um 10-11.9. 15:19:37 alright, thanks :) 15:20:39 pknirsch: I suppose it should be contrib/PhilsProfile or simply profiles/Phils? 15:22:13 marcela: hm, i was rather refering to the profiles we'd like to prepare and ship at first, so just profiles/ and then under it the various ones, e.g. latency (a ktune specific profile), max-powersave, laptop, default etc? 15:23:11 ok 15:24:08 one remark to documentation - i searched for state of "PM document" and the current maintainer is Ruediger Landmann 15:24:39 it would be fine to share our result with him 15:25:07 yes, he's the base-os technical writer and i've already contacted him a while ago, so he's aware that we'll be flooding him with more info ;) 15:27:20 how about making that a topic for one of the next meetings? 15:27:34 so we can invite him and discuss how to handle the documentation? 15:29:04 i would be good. but i'm on vacation next week and afaik marcela too 15:29:12 ah, ok 15:29:19 then lets schedule that for in 2 weeks? 15:29:28 yeah 15:29:28 ok 15:29:58 alright, cool. that should give him enough time to check if he can come as well. 15:31:37 good idea, then we should bury him in documents ;-) 15:31:38 marcela, could you merge your command branch with the master one so we can start building a tuned with it? 15:31:45 hehe skalnik1 15:31:48 yes 15:31:53 great, thanks! 15:33:23 last point for the f12 features was scomes, but we've covered that a few meetings ago and from what i can tell it's basically finished for f12. 15:33:56 any other comments/concerns/questions about f12 features? 15:36:32 seems not, so lets go the the last topic for today on the agenda 15:36:46 #topic Updates around HWtable 15:37:21 any proposal? 15:37:54 i've found a few sources of information which we might want to include there, especially concerning memory power usage 15:38:38 i'm not sure if i'll get to it today, but can put them in tomorrow 15:39:05 this is interesting because currently this is black hole memory + motherboard 15:39:11 mhm 15:39:50 it also contains some information about network cards and their power use 15:41:51 i hope to find some more over time, but that'll already complete the picture a bit more. 15:42:33 another interesting thing to add there might be the difference between one of those components in idle and full power mode (where available) 15:43:14 pknirsch: i added your info about graphics cards and improvements that made matthew garret and therefore i'd like to join him to this table to make more precise info 15:43:57 yes - the difference is really interesting 15:44:11 therefore there is column on/off 15:44:13 skalnik1: good idea. why don't you send him an email and ask if he could take a look at it? 15:44:29 mhm, and the %save column 15:44:31 i have pto today - working pto 15:44:38 :) 15:44:45 therefore i didn't write an email 15:45:03 oh, didn't know that! 15:45:33 thanks for being here today then. :) 15:46:41 this is relax for me 15:46:55 hehe, alright :) 15:46:58 cos i worked manually in the garden 15:47:14 you got nice weather in Brno at the moment? 15:47:36 to much sun for this job 15:47:39 :-) 15:47:42 :) 15:48:20 i haven't found anything about the hdparm things btw, which is really sad. 15:48:32 it just say lower value == better power saving 15:48:35 whatever that may mean 15:48:54 seems like any harddisk vendor can define them as they see fit. 15:49:16 i asked karsten - he didn't know details too 15:49:29 but i suppose that this is vendor depending 15:50:25 therefor i'm a bit skeptic to hdd apm 15:51:40 yea, true 15:53:11 anything else you'd like add about the HWlist? 15:55:57 alright, thats it then for this week. 15:56:14 thanks everyone and see probably then in 2 weeks again (after your vacation ;) 15:56:37 #endmeeting