18:04:52 <kital> #startmeeting
18:05:01 <fugolini> and, surely, I've just to take one second to take the agenda
18:05:09 <kital> #topic rollcall
18:05:15 <kital> JoergSimon
18:05:23 <susmit> SusmitShannigrahi
18:05:29 <spevack> Max Spevack is still here
18:05:35 <MrTom> ThomasCanniot
18:05:47 <fugolini> FrancescoUgolini
18:05:50 <kital> #chair fugolini
18:06:43 <kital> next topic?
18:07:11 <fugolini> just a second
18:07:15 <spevack> sure
18:07:23 * fugolini is a little bit late with today stuffs
18:07:34 <fugolini> ok, this is the agenda:
18:07:34 <fugolini> 1) Release Events review status
18:07:35 <fugolini> 2) Global events status (it would be better if local contacts could
18:07:35 <fugolini> give us some news about this topic at that time)
18:07:35 <fugolini> 3) Membership status
18:07:35 <fugolini> 4) t.b.d.
18:07:56 <fugolini> # topic 1) Release Events review status
18:07:56 <fugolini> 2) Global events status (it would be better if local contacts could
18:07:56 <fugolini> give us some news about this topic at that time)
18:07:56 <fugolini> 3) Membership status
18:07:56 <fugolini> 4) t.b.d.
18:08:00 <fugolini> is this ok?
18:08:02 <spevack> sure
18:08:14 <fugolini> Ok, just move to step 1)
18:08:20 <kital> #topic  Release Events review status
18:08:55 <fugolini> First of all I want to apologize with Joerg
18:09:37 <kital> no need!!!
18:09:42 <fugolini> that made a great work listing Release Events in a way it would be easy
18:09:55 <fugolini> to understand the key elements
18:10:17 <spevack> do we have a link?
18:10:41 <fugolini> email
18:10:54 <fugolini> just see the Release Events Contest thread in FAmSCo list
18:10:56 <fugolini> is a xsl
18:10:59 <fugolini> ops and ods
18:11:06 <fugolini> .0ds
18:11:15 <spevack> ok
18:11:19 * spevack is a bit behind
18:11:43 <fugolini> spevack: I don't have with me my M-Ls passwords so I can't access the archive to grab the link
18:11:52 <spevack> fugolini: it's ok, it's in my email
18:11:53 <fugolini> later I'll try to find it and I'll give it
18:11:54 <kital> lets look for the link
18:11:57 <fugolini> perfect :)
18:12:00 <spevack> no worries, guys
18:12:02 <spevack> i'll find the email
18:12:03 <spevack> keep going :)
18:12:13 <kital> http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/releaseevent09.ods
18:12:22 <spevack> thanks joerg
18:12:46 <kital> #link http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/releaseevent09.ods
18:12:58 <spevack> this is fantastic!
18:13:00 <fugolini> I think this spreadsheet could be a great beginning for starting evaluating all the release events. As I wrote in the list, the decision deadline is set for Aug 8th
18:13:04 <spevack> thank you joerg
18:13:08 <fugolini> +1
18:14:02 <fugolini> I think giving this deadline could help people finishing their reports if they haven't done yet and, sure, could help us review all the events with accuracy
18:14:12 <fugolini> EOF
18:14:15 <spevack> !
18:14:19 <fugolini> spevack:
18:14:35 <spevack> I would suggest a blog post and an email to fedora-ambassadors-list with a final reminder about this.  I'll volunteer to do the blog post
18:15:20 <fugolini> spevack: I sent the reminder in the list
18:15:24 <fugolini> less than a week ago
18:15:33 <fugolini> in ambassadors list
18:15:33 <spevack> fugolini: great.  i'll follow up with a blog post
18:15:41 <spevack> I was in meetings all last week, and I'm still trying to catch up.
18:15:44 <spevack> sorry for being behind
18:15:46 <fugolini> BTW, it would be a pleasure if you can do it :)
18:15:47 <kital> #action spevack volunteers to promote release events
18:15:57 <spevack> i love the new meeting manager :)
18:16:11 <kital> perfect for the report afterwards
18:16:46 <MrTom> personaly i don't like it, but it's not important :)
18:17:20 <fugolini> As I said I hadn't time to read the README of the meeting bot, but sure it was in my near future plan to do it :)
18:17:51 <fugolini> Anything to add?
18:18:31 <fugolini> ok, next topic
18:18:48 <fugolini> #topic Global events status
18:19:16 <fugolini> I wanted to bring this topic back. We discussed about it two months ago, if I'm not worng
18:19:41 <fugolini> Is there something that FAmSCo should be aware of?
18:20:02 <fugolini> Is budget well distributed? Are all events covered by budget resources?
18:20:06 <spevack> !
18:20:10 <fugolini> spevack:
18:20:22 <spevack> So, I have a few comments on this topic and on budgets.
18:20:43 <spevack> Individual events are in pretty good shape, from a funding point of view.  People are self-organized and taking care of things.
18:20:50 <spevack> We have a few problems from the swag point of view, and those are all my fault
18:20:59 <spevack> so I owe some apologies to Ambassadors
18:21:13 <spevack> both in NA and EMEA, because I'm a bit behind on processing some of the last requests for this quarter
18:21:21 <spevack> There's a few main things going on:
18:21:44 <spevack> (1) I've been asked to try to reduce my total budget for the rest of this quarter (until end of August) and probably will be asked the same in the Q3 (Sep - Nov)
18:22:10 <spevack> So I'm trying to get everything from finance set up to understand exactly how much money I have left in my budget for Q2, and there are a few bills that need to be paid for some swag in NA
18:22:14 <spevack> in EMEA, two comments:
18:22:27 <spevack> (1) We've got a growing team of ambassadors in Egypt who I need to make sure are properly supported.
18:22:38 <spevack> (2) We need to make some new tshirts soon
18:22:41 <spevack> because we are running out
18:22:45 <spevack> so that is all the stuff that I am taking care of
18:22:55 <spevack> but it's going slowly, since I've been very busy with other non-Fedora work.
18:22:59 <spevack> EOF
18:23:00 * hiemanshu would love new T-Shirts
18:23:04 <kital> !
18:23:11 <fugolini> great
18:23:14 <fugolini> kital:
18:23:29 <kital> spevack i can volunteer to make the t-shirt process
18:23:37 <MrTom> !
18:23:50 * hiemanshu owns 2 Fedora Tees
18:23:53 * fugolini means great (happy to hear news, even if some of them are not so good)
18:23:57 <kital> there was a discussion about black shirts with the blue splash in the emea meeting
18:24:17 <kital> was the most loved idea
18:24:20 <spevack> kital: i haven't even had a chance to read over those meeting logs yet
18:24:27 <spevack> kital: well, then I think that is what we should make!
18:24:40 <kital> then another thing to add befor MrTom gets the voice
18:24:42 <kital> ;)
18:25:10 <kital> emea team is working hard on getting the emea box done -
18:25:39 <hiemanshu> kital: you mean something like this http://a1.vox.com/6a0110164599e8860c011017e67329860e-pi ?
18:25:39 <kital> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:EVENTBOX.ods
18:26:49 <kital> yakoov also had big trouble to find out where all the stuff is
18:26:54 <kital> at my place ;)
18:27:04 <RodrigoPadula> for Brasil we produced some packages  with midias+stickers+banners+flyers
18:27:11 <RodrigoPadula> +t-shirts
18:27:17 * susmit is just an observer today :)
18:27:17 <kital> so emea team decided to have a trac instance for SWAG and EVentStuff Tracking
18:27:33 <kital> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1551
18:27:43 <spevack> that is a wonderful, wonderful idea
18:28:01 <susmit> We just had fedora-india trac last week.
18:28:13 <kital> so we can handle HAR with what we have also Froscon and OpenExpo Switzerland with what i can provide for now
18:28:29 <fugolini> interesting
18:28:32 <hiemanshu> susmit: Fedora-india?
18:28:54 <kital> together with the new shirts we are pretty save in europe - egypt is another point
18:28:58 <kital> eof
18:29:00 <fugolini> MrTom:
18:29:02 <MrTom> fugolini i don't know what is great... cost reducing for EMEA is bad news i think. EOF
18:29:14 <fugolini> I cleared my thout in a /me
18:29:17 <fugolini> *thought
18:29:30 <fugolini> (08:23:19 PM) ***fugolini means great (happy to hear news, even if some of them are not so good)
18:29:51 <MrTom> max do you know why ?
18:30:00 <spevack> MrTom: cost reducing for everywhere, not just one region.
18:30:14 <fugolini> It's great to hear news, just because FAmSCo goal is to find solutions when needed
18:30:26 <spevack> MrTom: It's a tough economy worldwide, and I've been asked to try to reduce my team's spending overall by a little bit.
18:30:39 <fugolini> I use great too much times, but it's more to say: I'm interested in what you have said
18:30:50 <spevack> MrTom: we'll still get everything done that we need to do
18:31:08 <fugolini> spevack: I think this is a reasonable action taken by the high level
18:31:23 <fugolini> even if it's not a good one from a fedora POV
18:31:50 <fugolini> *high levels
18:32:13 <fugolini> I think we should focus, like it was said last here in Brno
18:32:40 <susmit> spevack,  a few days ago sankarshan notified about a tight budget for India. I didn't know it was same for all.
18:32:45 <fugolini> to start working on event quality. And that's why Release Events are so important, we need to prize the quality, to be sure people would be enourage in doing something
18:33:08 <fugolini> good, using wisely resources, and giving where resources are best used
18:34:03 <fugolini> spevack: in order to make this change happening, is necessary to coordinate a review of resource distribution?
18:34:29 <spevack> fugolini: part of what i will do as we end the current quarter is look at what we've been spending in different parts of the world, and what we think we need in different parts for the rest of the year
18:34:31 <fugolini> or just push this news to local contacts and let them decide what is necessary and what is not?
18:34:44 <spevack> fugolini: i'll plan to do a full review of our ambassadors global budget during August
18:34:54 <fugolini> great
18:36:10 <fugolini> Anything to add for this important topic?
18:36:45 <spevack> not from me
18:37:03 <fugolini> I think we should start a FAmSCo Regional Meeting series soon
18:37:07 <spevack> just an apology to gerold, kital, and inode0 for being a bit behind on this part of my work
18:37:27 <kital> not from my side
18:37:30 <fugolini> after aug 6th (my internship will end on that day)
18:37:52 <fugolini> next topic
18:37:53 <fugolini> #topic Membership status
18:38:03 <fugolini> kital: have you something to say.
18:38:12 <fugolini> Thank you for all the updates you give weekly
18:38:42 <fugolini> about new ambassadors and so on. They help having an idea on how community is moving
18:38:49 <fugolini> Sure it's a really well done job!
18:39:28 <kital> mom
18:39:33 <fugolini> no problem
18:40:02 <fugolini> In the meanwhile, I want to assure I'm tracking all the stuff FAmSCo is doing and the reasult that is achieving
18:40:08 <kital> membership status is very easy now to report ;)
18:40:16 <kital> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fama/report/6
18:40:22 <fugolini> i'll do a report soon (remember me this if you don't see this)
18:40:26 <kital> find all what you need to know here ;)
18:40:26 <spevack> the automation that famsco has developed these past few months is fantastic
18:40:27 <kital> eof
18:40:42 <fugolini> kital:  great
18:41:23 <susmit> spevack, it is not over. A few more things in the pipeline.
18:41:53 <kital> spevack: with the help of susmit, fabian, mr. bridon ...
18:43:17 <kital> eof
18:43:23 <kital> sorry for the dots
18:43:50 <fugolini> thank you kital and thank you everyone. We know all of them :)
18:45:00 <fugolini> Have you something to add for Membership?
18:45:18 <fugolini> From a Mentorship POV, is everything working ok ?
18:45:37 <fugolini> I see in the list people are addressed to their local mentor
18:46:07 <fugolini> and it seems a great thing. The machine stated working and sure it will improve itself with the time
18:46:29 <RodrigoPadula> Yes, for me is working fine
18:46:39 <fugolini> that's important
18:47:16 <kital> as you can see in the report
18:47:36 <kital> the mentoring seems to be a effective "filter"
18:47:43 <fugolini> absolutely
18:47:49 <kital> the mentors do a very good job
18:48:06 <RodrigoPadula> Joerg is doing a great job in the proccess
18:48:18 <kital> there is not a single one who does not reply to the Candidates etc.
18:48:28 <kital> thanks RodrigoPadula
18:48:49 <kital> eof
18:49:27 <RodrigoPadula> with this process the new ambassadors are contributing more in latam
18:49:56 <RodrigoPadula> during the interview we show all the project and how it works and how the ambassador can help us
18:50:05 <RodrigoPadula> it's very good
18:50:15 <fugolini> sure it is
18:51:46 <fugolini> Anything to add?
18:51:58 <fugolini> #topic Other issues
18:52:12 <fugolini> is there something we need to discuss?
18:52:23 <susmit> not from me.
18:52:30 <kital> #info mentoring is a sucess
18:52:46 <fugolini> ;)
18:53:03 <susmit> #info budget is reduced worldwide
18:53:27 <kital> just to add that there are many new hungry emea Ambassadors who hunger for action
18:53:50 <kital> ;) susmit good !!!
18:54:15 <susmit> ;)
18:54:54 <kital> ?
18:55:27 <fugolini> So, if there is nothing, we can adjourn the meeting
18:55:29 <fugolini> #adjourn
18:55:38 <fugolini> mh...
18:55:49 <onekopaka> fugolini: #endmeeting
18:56:02 * fugolini thinks it's necessary to take some time to read the guide :P
18:56:05 <fugolini> #endmeeting