21:00:01 #startmeeting EPEL meeting 21:00:11 #topic Roll call 21:00:17 who all is around for the EPEL meeting? 21:02:13 i am here 21:02:22 cool. I'm not all alone... ;) 21:02:38 well I could just be a voice in your head.. 21:03:04 at least thats what they tell me sometimes :P 21:03:23 might be a short meeting... ;) 21:03:23 sigh.. its like there is no time when people are able to make it 21:03:47 yeah, we talked about moving it again... but it's always hard to tell if a time is better unless we just move i. 21:03:48 it 21:04:47 I'm pretty flexable on meetings... basically anytime there isn't another one I am in. 21:05:26 i am now too 21:05:56 I guess we could just try another time/day and see if we get more folks? Or just keep trying for this time. 21:06:01 I think fesco meetings drain the life out of some people 21:06:10 i mean how many do you guys have a week 21:07:36 normally just one long one... 21:07:50 oh I thought it was tuesday and friday 21:08:15 well what was the run for this meeting? 21:08:22 we have special sessions sometimes... if we have too much stuff for one. 21:08:45 we had a few items for this week... lets see. 21:08:49 sorry Im late 21:08:51 #topic Communicating about stable requests 21:09:01 hey stahnma. :) 21:09:13 * abadger1999 looksin 21:09:14 I need to set an appt on calendar 21:09:23 so dgilmore brought this up... how can we communicate better to our maintainers that they shouldn't try and push something to stable directly? 21:09:42 yes i did 21:09:53 we need changes in bodhi to enforce it 21:10:01 can we remove the stable button? 21:10:03 * ricky suggests a note in the make update templtae. 21:10:04 **template 21:10:22 (That'd be in Makefile.common) 21:10:32 ricky: wont help 21:10:40 not everyone does make update 21:10:40 It would have helped me 21:10:53 That + enforcing it in bodhi would be good 21:11:20 ive had people still try and push to stable evern after ive moved back to testing and explained that it violates EPEL policies 21:11:53 yeah that little push loop a couple of weeks back was annoying 21:12:05 perhaps a wiki page we could point people to? 21:12:14 if bodhi wouldnt push to stable unless we pass an option or its been in testing 2 weeks will help me keep my hair 21:12:21 I did update the policy page... but we could make a more concise one for this issue. 21:13:02 dgilmore: What hair? :-) 21:13:10 ricky: i have some 21:13:20 Hehe 21:13:43 anyhow, how hard is this going to be to get in bodhi? 21:14:01 nirik: i dont think it will be too hard 21:14:13 just need to add some logic to filter builds to push 21:14:18 just needs time 21:15:03 ok, should we also work from the education angle? or do you think it won't help any? 21:15:11 we should probably do both 21:15:22 if an option is noticably absent, we should tell people why 21:15:31 also, pretend I can spell 21:17:01 you can spelgf 21:17:12 speeling is hard. ;) 21:18:07 ok, so do we want a landing page for this issue? or just a post to epel-devel? or both? or ? 21:19:06 post to list and offer a policy paragraph on the wiki. Then fix bodhi process. 21:19:17 yes 21:20:06 ok. I guess I can do that. 21:20:23 we should do both 21:20:23 #action nirik will post to list reminder about stable policy and make a wiki page to point people at. 21:20:31 but some people it doesnt help 21:21:41 then we use fists 21:21:52 yeah, some people you just can't reach. 21:22:00 and make minor edits to bohdi process/code 21:22:01 anyhow, anything further on this topic? or shall we move on? 21:22:09 move on plz 21:22:21 #topic Increasing contributor base 21:22:36 Anyone have any ideas for things we could do to increase contibutors? 21:22:43 Looks like there was some good discussion last week on this with mission stuff and quaid 21:23:08 yeah, sorry I mostly didn't make that meeting. ;( Pesky crisies 21:23:22 is the goal to have more contributors? More packages? More of a certain flavor of package? 21:23:45 I am not sure I understand the exact objective. I mean, I like the idea of more in general; just think wondering what the focus is. 21:23:51 well, I would like to see more packages, but of course selfishly I just want ones that I would use. ;) I'm not sure how to generally identify those. 21:24:28 I think that is usually how anyone identifies them 21:25:11 do we have a wishlist? 21:25:16 well, I was thinking if we reach out to the SIGs 21:25:21 like ruby, perl, php, python etc 21:25:30 to me, that's the stuff I want/need in EPEL 21:25:40 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL_Package_Wish_List 21:25:42 I *think* we do 21:25:58 but it doesn't have much there. ;) 21:27:32 I normally wish for perl* and ruby* 21:27:50 either way, increasing contributors 21:27:55 plans? 21:27:56 ideas? 21:28:22 yeah, normally perl here. 21:28:54 I think asking about 4 people would get a lot of the perl packagers... cweyl and a few others. 21:29:13 I think the big thing is to show how easy it is now to get builds done. 21:29:31 we could blog about it 21:29:37 hopefully those people read planet 21:29:43 yeah, thats trye. 21:29:47 true even. 21:29:51 someone want to blog about it? 21:29:55 I can 21:30:59 excellent. 21:31:15 #action stahnma will blog on getting more perl/ruby packagers involved in EPEL 21:31:43 #topic Status on wiki update 21:31:55 not sure there is much status to report yet, but I thought I would ask. :) 21:32:50 quaid: ? 21:34:11 we can revist moving forward. 21:34:21 #topic Open Floor 21:34:29 anything else anyone wants to bring up? 21:36:20 I guess if not, we can call it a quick meeting and adjorn... 21:36:46 no I don't have much until EL6 beta ever comes out.. 21:37:29 ok then... 21:37:33 any idea if Ruby 1.9 will be in EL6? 21:38:25 thanks for coming everyone. 21:38:34 #endmeeting