15:01:19 #startmeeting BugZappers meeting 15:01:19 Meeting started Tue Sep 1 15:01:19 2009 UTC. The chair is adamw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:31 #topic gathering bodies 15:01:36 anyone else around? 15:01:37 * arxs here 15:01:57 * thomasj is here as well, as always not very verbose 15:02:10 excellente 15:02:15 let me peruse the agenda ... 15:02:35 did anyone know about rjune ? 15:02:53 i think this is one of the weeks he can't make it to the meeting (he has work commitments sometimes) 15:03:18 so we'll have to wait till next week for a kernel triage update 15:03:40 let's see, last week meeting followup... 15:03:48 #topic followup from last week 15:04:27 hmm. we can't do any followup because all the relevant people aren't here :) 15:04:28 * mcepl here 15:04:44 for the record, topics from last week: kernel triage (rjune), meeting organization SOP (tk009) 15:05:20 anyone have anything else i'm forgetting that they wanted to follow up on? 15:05:50 dosen't look so 15:05:53 ok 15:06:02 #topic improving Triage Day events 15:06:18 tk009 threw this on the list of topics he sent me for the draft agenda but left it off the one he sent to the list 15:06:23 so i guess he has a proposal he wants to present 15:06:27 we could kick it around, though... 15:06:46 yes, my question, is the new announce mailing list already online? 15:06:53 yes, it is 15:07:02 that's from QA meeting, for other people 15:07:15 we have an announcement mailing list now: fedora-test-announce 15:07:26 yay 15:07:34 it's designed to be a low traffic list for announcing significant events - the original idea was Test Days but other similar things can certainly go there 15:07:46 i'm a moderator for the list so i'll let through appropriate posts announcing BZ-related events :) 15:07:49 so please do make use of it 15:07:52 thanks for the reminder, arxs 15:08:23 hmm, i'm to stupid to find it, where is it hosted redhad or fedora mail man? 15:08:27 * adamw makes mental note to update QA and BugZapper wikis to refer to it 15:08:32 er. i think it's redhat... 15:08:35 hold on 15:08:50 ah - i got the name wrong 15:08:53 it's just test-announce 15:08:56 and it's fedora mailman 15:09:19 #action adamw note to update QA and BugZapper wikis to refer to the new test announce mailing list 15:09:40 #action adamw note to update QA and BugZapper wikis to refer to the new test announce mailing list 15:09:47 (you're not a mod so i'm not sure it'll work :>) 15:10:02 any questions about the list? 15:10:18 it works, trust me :) 15:10:31 ah ok :) 15:10:33 i have a private learn session with meetbot at least 15:10:39 ok then back to triage days 15:11:00 adamw: post url to list here? 15:11:14 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce 15:11:17 thanks 15:11:19 #url https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce 15:11:44 i have to take the fall a bit on triage days...i pushed the concept and haven't been running it properly of late 15:12:08 we never quite got the momentum to have a real triage day where we all sit around and work on $something, but it was working well as a way of training new people for a while... 15:12:18 #link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce 15:12:25 bah 15:12:27 thoughts? 15:12:34 :) 15:13:04 adamw: is the test-announce list on gmane.org? 15:13:40 i don't know 15:13:47 checking 15:14:02 mcepl: no 15:14:29 :( 15:14:55 yes, it isn't 15:15:06 but you can add it over here http://gmane.org/subscribe.php 15:15:12 or missed I something? 15:15:17 arxs: you should be admin, I think 15:15:40 adamw: can you please subscribe it to gmane ? 15:15:47 sure. 15:16:31 #action adamw take care to subscribe the test-announce list to gmane.org 15:17:46 so...are we done talking about the mailing list now? :) 15:18:01 yes for me 15:18:34 well, it's stormy outside here :) 15:19:03 so, anyone have any thoughts on the triage day topic? 15:19:30 don't think so 15:20:59 hmm, ok - i guess we'll see what tk009 had to suggest next week. he didn't enlighten me as to his ideas :) 15:22:48 well then... 15:22:53 i don't have any other topics 15:22:56 #topic open floor 15:23:02 anyone have anything to bring up? 15:24:01 hmm, only my standard question, is there any timeframe known when the ssl/nss bug is fixed? 15:24:34 ? 15:24:44 you mean when rawhide will be rebuilt for openssl 1.0? 15:25:01 this bug's prevent since 20090827 the daily build of boot.iso, install.img and friends :/ 15:25:19 oh, that. um. i don't have a timeframe. oxf13? you have any idea maybe? 15:26:10 multiple people have been working on it every day 15:27:22 nss seems to go through for me today 15:27:29 openssl is still blocked with --skip-broken 15:29:56 so, um...it's being worked on :) 15:29:58 anything else? 15:30:32 nothing important, only to notice that the triage of NM and MM bugs are going on. Also big thanks for dcbw for it helps 15:31:52 excellent! glad that's working out well 15:33:47 btw seems like only anaconda is blocking the big openssl upgrade in today's rawhide, for me 15:34:18 so...any other business? otherwise closing meeting in... 15:34:53 3 15:34:58 2 15:35:05 1 15:35:12 ok, thanks for coming! 15:35:14 #endmeeting