00:00:59 #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 00:00:59 Meeting started Thu Oct 29 00:00:59 2009 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:00:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:00:59 oi 00:01:02 #topic Roll Call 00:01:04 * Sparks 00:01:15 * rudi is here 00:01:18 * Sparks wonders if zodbot was asleep 00:01:22 * marwalk . 00:01:24 * jjmcd is here 00:02:47 * danielsmw is making ramen but will be back in 2:15 00:03:00 #chair jjmcd 00:03:00 Current chairs: Sparks jjmcd 00:03:24 * jjmcd wonders whether that is like alternate NCS 00:03:42 jjmcd: Yes 00:03:50 jjmcd: I know what happened last week. 00:04:02 Bah ... I guess I'll have to pay attention 00:04:22 quaid: nice of you to join us tonight! 00:05:19 Okay, on with the show! 00:05:24 #topic Release Announcement 00:05:54 Last week we decided that the Release Announcement needed to be complete no later than 10 Nov. 00:06:11 I think there is already work being done on it. 00:06:30 Would anyone like to step up and take on this project? 00:07:20 This would be a quick project that would be good for a new or experienced member. 00:07:35 * jjmcd will be putting together the rpm around that time 00:08:00 jjmcd: You're excused this time 00:08:44 Well, I'll put out another plea later. 00:09:00 #topic Release Notes 00:09:02 Isn't this one supposed to be mostly marketing? 00:09:08 OK, RNs 00:09:13 jjmcd: How are things going? 00:09:32 Thanks to rudi, the GA POs went to L10N behind the original schedule but ahead of the current schedule 00:10:03 Also, I marked all the beats so folks don't sneak things in there 00:10:25 There were more changes than I would have liked, but it shouldn't be too bad for L10N 00:11:05 We had 4 or 5 bugs around mems size so I put in some weasel words that nobody will like 00:11:05 Cool 00:11:21 Around 10% change 00:11:23 Are we still on track for being on time? 00:11:36 yep, just waiting for L10N now 00:12:12 Cool 00:12:21 Did you get ownership/co-ownership of the RPM? 00:12:45 Nope, still waiting on reviews of maiden rpm 00:12:59 I'll email adam who volunteered to help off channel 00:13:15 Hmmm... I don't like that you are waiting on the review of the rpm 00:13:26 Do you have the attention of someone that is going to review it? 00:13:32 Not THE rpm, and rpm to get to be a packager 00:13:49 Ahhh 00:13:52 Okay 00:14:14 There are a handful of folks who have provided input, but idle a week so I'll ask Adam what to do next 00:14:21 +1 weasel words 00:14:48 Colin Powell always said you gotta piss somebody off sometimes 00:15:33 I follow that rule way too often 00:15:35 rudi helped a bunch on some stuff i had forgotten how to do 00:15:58 that's a plus and a minus, plus I didn't spend a lot of time on it, minus i wasn't forced to remember how to do it 00:16:11 jjmcd -- you mean the git stuff? 00:16:23 No, the re-merging the po 00:16:45 Ah yeah. Hopefully noone will need to remember that soon :P 00:16:50 Well, I owulda screwed up the branch, too 00:17:19 Someone once called that stuff "stupid knowledge" -- the knowledge of workarounds and kludges :) 00:17:33 good assessment 00:17:48 But the upside is that I think we're getting better at working with L10N 00:17:59 Yeah, I think so 00:18:01 And in the F12-F13 lull, I'd like to document that 00:18:07 We still have some work to do tho 00:18:10 Indeed 00:18:37 Okay, so do you need anything for the RNs? 00:18:55 no, i think we're good for now 00:19:12 Okay. Moving on 00:19:21 #topic Status on CMS (Zikula) 00:19:29 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status 00:19:57 * Sparks just remembers he needs to update his package on the wiki 00:20:28 Okay, that's done. 00:20:58 My accessory packages, polls and advanced polls, have been pushed to stable so all that should be ready to go 00:21:32 Does anyone have any updates? 00:22:57 We'll need to jump on this project as soon as F12 is out the door. I'd like to have this up and running by the end of the year for docs.fp.o. 00:23:21 Of course that is an arbitrary date but one that will give us something to work toward. 00:23:27 Anyone have anything? 00:24:06 Okay, moving on 00:24:19 #topic Status on CC license rollout. 00:24:28 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule 00:25:10 I completed #7 earlier today based on a conversation I had with rudi last week and my regeneration of the SG over the weekend. 00:25:52 So now we just review against our checklist? 00:26:02 I'm having problems regenerating the non-English versions of the SG, however, so I'll need some help with that but I think everything is squared away. 00:26:13 checklist? 00:26:25 Well, step 8 00:26:31 jjmcd: yes 00:26:44 quaid: Did you get step 6 completed? 00:28:12 I spoke with ianweller earlier and he said: the status of the license change is that it's half done in the staging branch and that i can't get to it today but i can maybe get to it tomorrow 00:28:35 So that should knock out step 5 00:29:11 Okay, maybe quaid will be back with us later 00:30:22 Anything else? 00:31:39 Okay, moving on 00:31:43 #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets 00:32:11 I think I got all the F12 RN tickets this week 00:32:46 I haven't checked them today but if everyone will go through the tickets and make sure everything is assigned and if you have any tickets assigned please make sure the notes are up to date 00:32:51 jjmcd: +1 00:33:22 The note I put on each beat asks folks to submit a ticket for zero day changes 00:33:38 cool 00:33:50 Okay, anything else? 00:34:32 #topic Guide needs? 00:34:44 Anyone have any guides that need anything? 00:35:04 Looks like we might get some help on the ARG, we'll see 00:35:08 Not a need -- but a heads-up that the new F12 Deployment Guide is now on d.fp.o and Transifex... 00:35:20 goodness 00:35:21 jjmcd: ARG? 00:35:23 Oh 00:35:32 :-) 00:35:39 rudi: Awesome 00:35:57 jjmcd: I'm having git issues tonight... :( 00:36:17 Well it ain't near as frustrating as CVS 00:36:21 That's perspectival's awesomeness to thank 00:36:42 jjmcd: CVS and SVN worked... I can't get anything OUT of git 00:36:56 perspectival++ 00:37:19 Well see, less work that way 00:37:37 ya 00:38:24 I haven't looked at the accessibility guide lately... that needs to be touched at some point 00:39:42 Anything else? 00:40:28 #topic New Guides 00:40:33 Any new guides? 00:40:40 Ah -- I see I jumped the gun. Sorry! 00:41:02 rudi: No worries 00:41:03 Is stickster writing the "Guide to bars in Toronto"? 00:41:16 jjmcd: Is that a new guide? Publican or wiki? 00:41:43 Well, Paul being an XML sort of guy, I assumed... 00:42:25 Well, we should encourage that to be put in the repo 00:42:57 He did great in Berlin, but he may have had help from Jeroen 00:43:34 :) 00:43:42 Okay, any OTHER new guides? 00:44:06 #topic All other business 00:44:19 Okay, does anyone have anything they'd like to discuss? 00:45:23 did you see the F12 beta writeup in Ars Technica? 00:45:25 anything? anything at all? 00:46:13 marwalk: I didn't. 00:46:19 marwalk: url? 00:46:33 http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2009/10/ars-takes-a-first-look-under-the-hood-of-fedora-12.ars 00:47:16 F11 had rough edges? 00:47:26 Not as rough as F7, IMO. :) 00:48:41 marwalk: Thanks for the link! 00:48:58 indeed :-) 00:49:07 anyone else? 00:50:32 Okay, well I'm closing it down! 00:50:40 Thanks everyone for coming tonight. 00:50:44 #endmeeting