20:00:19 <mmcgrath> #startmeeting Infrastructure 20:00:19 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 5 20:00:19 2009 UTC. The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:19 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:24 <mmcgrath> #topic Who's here? 20:00:37 <Ac-town> me 20:00:44 * a-k is 20:01:42 * mmcgrath keeps making tickets while people come by 20:03:40 <mmcgrath> Ok, well. lets just get started 20:03:47 * nirik is here. 20:03:53 <mmcgrath> I'm goign to go over - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9 20:03:57 <mmcgrath> for the release 20:04:03 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1483 20:04:04 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1483 (Project-tracking: decisionmaking process (F12)) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1483 20:04:05 <mmcgrath> ricky: ping 20:04:21 <skvidal> oo meeting 20:04:25 * skvidal almost forgot 20:04:47 <mmcgrath> skvidal: you're not alone 20:04:52 <skvidal> :) 20:05:02 <mmcgrath> Ok, so ricky seems busy we'll skip that for now. 20:05:17 * lmacken rolls in 20:05:31 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1787 20:05:32 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1787 (Change Freeze) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1787 20:05:43 <mmcgrath> This is in effect until the day after the launch 20:05:45 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1788 20:05:46 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1788 (Websites) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1788 20:06:08 * mmcgrath attempts to summon some websites people. 20:06:38 <mmcgrath> Ok, we'll skip that one too for now. 20:06:44 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1789 20:06:45 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1789 (Verify Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1789 20:06:46 <mmcgrath> smooge: around? 20:07:15 <nb> oh im here 20:07:48 <mmcgrath> man, this is going to be a short meeting. 20:07:51 <mmcgrath> we'll sip that one 20:07:57 <mmcgrath> Oxf13: you around? 20:08:08 <Oxf13> yeah 20:08:19 <mmcgrath> Oxf13: can you add some size estimates to https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1789 ? 20:08:36 <Oxf13> mmcgrath: I don't have anything better than "size of F11 + 10%" 20:08:49 <mmcgrath> k 20:09:01 * nirik wonders if it shouldn't be smaller due to xz 20:09:08 <Oxf13> nirik: more packages 20:09:15 <Oxf13> and drpms 20:09:33 <mmcgrath> Oxf13: are any drpms shipping with the actual release or just updates? 20:09:36 <nirik> true, but we had drpms for f11 too, right? 20:09:55 <Oxf13> nirik: I don't think we had drpms in the everything tree, I could be wrong 20:10:07 <Oxf13> mmcgrath: I think the drpm set thati's in rawhide will get copied over to the Everything tree 20:10:28 * sijis is here. 20:10:36 <mmcgrath> sijis: thanks, one sec :0 20:10:43 <mmcgrath> Oxf13: when would they get used? 20:10:59 <nirik> ha. there is 1 drpm in the f11 everything tree. ;) 20:11:11 <Oxf13> mmcgrath: people on current rawhide moving on to F12 20:11:27 <Oxf13> scrubbing them makes my life a bit... difficult as I think I'd have to re-create repodata for all of the Everything tree 20:11:27 <mmcgrath> how much space is that goign to take up do we think? 20:11:30 * ianweller is here 20:11:30 <mmcgrath> is it really worth it? 20:11:33 <Oxf13> as opposed to just copying/hardlinking it over 20:11:41 <mmcgrath> ah 20:11:50 <mmcgrath> k. well we'll just plan on F11 + 10% for now 20:12:04 <mmcgrath> sijis: ok, I was going to ask you about 20:12:07 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1788 20:12:09 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1788 (Websites) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1788 20:12:18 <mmcgrath> sijis: what all is going to change, what isn't for the release? 20:13:16 <sijis> in regards to spins.fp.o and get.fp.o? 20:13:26 <ggruener> hi all 20:13:50 <sijis> all the other sites haven't been touched, so they should be ready for release day. 20:14:09 <sijis> the only question is if spins.fp.o will be and i think it will be close, if not right after. 20:14:27 <sijis> i highly doubt get.fp.o will be done by then 20:14:46 <mmcgrath> k, if it won't be 'done done'. What are we going to do to get it ready for release day, we'll have new images and links and things to put in place 20:15:48 <sijis> i haven't honestly thought about it.. but thinking we'll have to updated the links on the current spins page and then do a cutover a tad later 20:16:28 <mmcgrath> k 20:16:34 <mmcgrath> I'll leave that all up to you guys 20:16:38 <mmcgrath> next ticket is 20:16:41 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1792 20:16:42 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1792 (RHIS Communication) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1792 20:16:50 <mmcgrath> They know, I'll create another ticket to make sure though 20:16:53 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1793 20:16:54 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1793 (Modify Template:FedoraVersion) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1793 20:16:59 <mmcgrath> ianweller: you want to do that one again? 20:17:41 <ianweller> sure 20:17:43 <ianweller> well 20:17:50 <ianweller> i may not have the chance, i'll prolly be at school 20:18:01 <ianweller> stickster knows what he's doing though 20:18:18 <mmcgrath> k 20:18:40 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1794 20:18:41 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1794 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1794 20:18:44 <mmcgrath> that one's not until after the release 20:18:50 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1795 20:18:51 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1795 (Enable caching wiki) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1795 20:18:56 <mmcgrath> I'll get this one just before the release 20:18:57 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1796 20:18:58 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1796 (Disable wiki caching) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1796 20:19:01 <mmcgrath> I'll get this one just after :) 20:19:04 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1797 20:19:05 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1797 (Add new release to stats gathering script on log1) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1797 20:19:09 <mmcgrath> smooge: ping? 20:20:27 <mmcgrath> ok, I'll bring some of those up on the list 20:20:33 <mmcgrath> any one else have questions for the release? 20:20:57 <mmcgrath> allrighty 20:21:05 <mmcgrath> #topic Search Engine 20:21:08 <mmcgrath> a-k: take it! 20:21:10 <mmcgrath> whats the latest? 20:21:13 <a-k> Sure. 20:21:25 <a-k> For a while, I think we're just going to be chewing our way through the list of candidates. 20:21:48 <a-k> I added Java-based engines as viable candidates (on the wiki) until we know they don't work with GCJ or OpenJDK. 20:22:09 <a-k> I added a color-coded table to the wiki page to track our investigations, for easy reading. 20:22:24 <a-k> That's about it for this week, I think. 20:23:15 <mmcgrath> k, thanks for the update. 20:23:20 <mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? 20:24:04 <mmcgrath> mdomsch: hey. 20:24:06 <mmcgrath> do you want to get 20:24:09 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1791 20:24:10 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1791 (Add MM redirects) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1791 20:24:11 <mmcgrath> as usual? 20:24:16 <mmcgrath> might already be done :) 20:24:36 <mdomsch> must be done; need to drop the redirects on release day 20:24:39 <mdomsch> so leave it open until then 20:24:54 <mmcgrath> coolz. 20:25:03 <mmcgrath> witht hat 20:25:06 <mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor 20:25:09 <mmcgrath> anyone have anything else? 20:25:27 <sijis> i do.. last release i put up links on sixxs for ipv6 downloads 20:25:41 <mmcgrath> sijis: ahh yes, you want to be on that for this release too? 20:25:50 <sijis> would i have to do that this release, or are we pushing hosting the ipv6 ourselves? 20:26:02 <mmcgrath> we're not hosting ipv6 yet I don't think 20:26:07 <mdomsch> sijis, we don't have an ipv6 tracker yet 20:26:09 <mmcgrath> mdomsch: the ipv6 torrenter never got implemented right? 20:26:11 <mmcgrath> yeah 20:26:17 <mdomsch> we're close... 20:26:23 <skvidal> mdomsch: how close? 20:26:47 <skvidal> mdomsch: do you have the tracker? 20:26:48 <mdomsch> the review submisission on opentracker should be almost there - just waiting on the submitter to take my advice 20:26:54 <mdomsch> one sec 20:27:08 <skvidal> mdomsch: b/c I need to take a look at what (if any) data it writes out for stats 20:27:14 <mdomsch> he did already back out the use of dietlibc, which was causing failures 20:27:30 <skvidal> wow, dietlibc - I thought(hoped) that had died off 20:27:41 <mdomsch> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523540 20:27:42 <buggbot> Bug 523540: medium, medium, ---, dmaphy, ASSIGNED, Review Request: opentracker - BitTorrent Tracker 20:28:03 <mdomsch> nope, libowfat was built against dietlibc, which was unable to bind ipv6 sockets 20:28:11 <mdomsch> now libowfat is built against libc, and was fine 20:28:15 <stickster> mmcgrath: Sorry to double back on old topic -- please feel free to assign the wiki version template changes to me 20:28:49 <sijis> mmcgrath: yeah, ill publish that there on release day 20:28:54 <mmcgrath> stickster: k 20:28:55 <mmcgrath> sijis: thanks 20:28:59 <mmcgrath> anyone have anything else to discuss? 20:29:01 <mmcgrath> If not we'll close in 30 20:29:17 <mdomsch> skvidal, look at http://domsch.com/linux/fedora/opentracker/ for working packages to play with 20:29:21 <skvidal> I found it 20:30:06 <smooge> crap pong 20:30:13 <smooge> went to eat lunch and it ran over 20:30:20 <skvidal> smooge: sounds like a good lunch 20:30:26 <skvidal> mmcgrath: speaking of trackers 20:30:28 <smooge> especially with me forgetting about DST over with 20:30:30 <skvidal> mmcgrath: and torrents 20:30:39 <skvidal> oh nevermind 20:30:47 <skvidal> I'll ask the fcomm folks elsewhere 20:30:48 <mmcgrath> ? 20:30:50 <mmcgrath> 'm kay :) 20:31:03 <mmcgrath> smooge: oh hey, I was wondering if you wanted some tickets for the release? 20:31:10 <mmcgrath> in particular 20:31:15 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1789 20:31:16 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1789 (Verify Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1789 20:31:18 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1790 20:31:19 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1790 (Verify RELENG permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1790 20:31:19 <mmcgrath> and 20:31:23 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1797 20:31:24 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1797 (Add new release to stats gathering script on log1) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1797 20:32:11 <smooge> okie dokie 20:32:51 <mmcgrath> for 1789 Oxf13 says F11 + 10% 20:33:01 <smooge> yeah thats pretty standard 20:33:10 <mmcgrath> Ok, if no one has anything else, we'll close the meeting in 30s 20:33:13 <smooge> I did an estimate of the releases for the beta just in case 20:33:28 <smooge> oh I have something 20:33:42 <smooge> on Available Reports.. I think we need to add in F13 tickets 20:33:56 <smooge> oh wait never mind.. thats next release 20:34:03 <smooge> someone already did the thing I was thinking 20:35:01 <mmcgrath> :) 20:35:02 <mmcgrath> alrighty 20:35:05 <mmcgrath> well with that 20:35:07 <mmcgrath> #endmeeting