20:00:19 <mmcgrath> #startmeeting Infrastructure
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20:00:24 <mmcgrath> #topic Who's here?
20:00:37 <Ac-town> me
20:00:44 * a-k is
20:01:42 * mmcgrath keeps making tickets while people come by
20:03:40 <mmcgrath> Ok, well.  lets just get started
20:03:47 * nirik is here.
20:03:53 <mmcgrath> I'm goign to go over - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9
20:03:57 <mmcgrath> for the release
20:04:03 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1483
20:04:04 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1483 (Project-tracking: decisionmaking process (F12)) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1483
20:04:05 <mmcgrath> ricky: ping
20:04:21 <skvidal> oo meeting
20:04:25 * skvidal almost forgot
20:04:47 <mmcgrath> skvidal: you're not alone
20:04:52 <skvidal> :)
20:05:02 <mmcgrath> Ok, so ricky seems busy we'll skip that for now.
20:05:17 * lmacken rolls in
20:05:31 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1787
20:05:32 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1787 (Change Freeze) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1787
20:05:43 <mmcgrath> This is in effect until the day after the launch
20:05:45 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1788
20:05:46 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1788 (Websites) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1788
20:06:08 * mmcgrath attempts to summon some websites people.
20:06:38 <mmcgrath> Ok, we'll skip that one too for now.
20:06:44 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1789
20:06:45 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1789 (Verify Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1789
20:06:46 <mmcgrath> smooge: around?
20:07:15 <nb> oh im here
20:07:48 <mmcgrath> man, this is going to be a short meeting.
20:07:51 <mmcgrath> we'll sip that one
20:07:57 <mmcgrath> Oxf13: you around?
20:08:08 <Oxf13> yeah
20:08:19 <mmcgrath> Oxf13: can you add some size estimates to https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1789 ?
20:08:36 <Oxf13> mmcgrath: I don't have anything better than "size of F11 + 10%"
20:08:49 <mmcgrath> k
20:09:01 * nirik wonders if it shouldn't be smaller due to xz
20:09:08 <Oxf13> nirik: more packages
20:09:15 <Oxf13> and drpms
20:09:33 <mmcgrath> Oxf13: are any drpms shipping with the actual release or just updates?
20:09:36 <nirik> true, but we had drpms for f11 too, right?
20:09:55 <Oxf13> nirik: I don't think we had drpms in the everything tree, I could be wrong
20:10:07 <Oxf13> mmcgrath: I think the drpm set thati's in rawhide will get copied over to the Everything tree
20:10:28 * sijis is here.
20:10:36 <mmcgrath> sijis: thanks, one sec :0
20:10:43 <mmcgrath> Oxf13: when would they get used?
20:10:59 <nirik> ha. there is 1 drpm in the f11 everything tree. ;)
20:11:11 <Oxf13> mmcgrath: people on current rawhide moving on to F12
20:11:27 <Oxf13> scrubbing them makes my life a bit... difficult as I think I'd have to re-create repodata for all of the Everything tree
20:11:27 <mmcgrath> how much space is that goign to take up do we think?
20:11:30 * ianweller is here
20:11:30 <mmcgrath> is it really worth it?
20:11:33 <Oxf13> as opposed to just copying/hardlinking it over
20:11:41 <mmcgrath> ah
20:11:50 <mmcgrath> k.  well we'll just plan on F11 + 10% for now
20:12:04 <mmcgrath> sijis: ok, I was going to ask you about
20:12:07 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1788
20:12:09 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1788 (Websites) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1788
20:12:18 <mmcgrath> sijis: what all is going to change, what isn't for the release?
20:13:16 <sijis> in regards to spins.fp.o and get.fp.o?
20:13:26 <ggruener> hi all
20:13:50 <sijis> all the other sites haven't been touched, so they should be ready for release day.
20:14:09 <sijis> the only question is if spins.fp.o will be and i think it will be close, if not right after.
20:14:27 <sijis> i highly doubt get.fp.o will be done by then
20:14:46 <mmcgrath> k, if it won't be 'done done'.  What are we going to do to get it ready for release day, we'll have new images and links and things to put in place
20:15:48 <sijis> i haven't honestly thought about it.. but thinking we'll have to updated the links on the current spins page and then do a cutover a tad later
20:16:28 <mmcgrath> k
20:16:34 <mmcgrath> I'll leave that all up to you guys
20:16:38 <mmcgrath> next ticket is
20:16:41 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1792
20:16:42 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1792 (RHIS Communication) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1792
20:16:50 <mmcgrath> They know, I'll create another ticket to make sure though
20:16:53 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1793
20:16:54 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1793 (Modify Template:FedoraVersion) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1793
20:16:59 <mmcgrath> ianweller: you want to do that one again?
20:17:41 <ianweller> sure
20:17:43 <ianweller> well
20:17:50 <ianweller> i may not have the chance, i'll prolly be at school
20:18:01 <ianweller> stickster knows what he's doing though
20:18:18 <mmcgrath> k
20:18:40 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1794
20:18:41 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1794 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1794
20:18:44 <mmcgrath> that one's not until after the release
20:18:50 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1795
20:18:51 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1795 (Enable caching wiki) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1795
20:18:56 <mmcgrath> I'll get this one just before the release
20:18:57 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1796
20:18:58 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1796 (Disable wiki caching) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1796
20:19:01 <mmcgrath> I'll get this one just after :)
20:19:04 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1797
20:19:05 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1797 (Add new release to stats gathering script on log1) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1797
20:19:09 <mmcgrath> smooge: ping?
20:20:27 <mmcgrath> ok, I'll bring some of those up on the list
20:20:33 <mmcgrath> any one else have questions for the release?
20:20:57 <mmcgrath> allrighty
20:21:05 <mmcgrath> #topic Search Engine
20:21:08 <mmcgrath> a-k: take it!
20:21:10 <mmcgrath> whats the latest?
20:21:13 <a-k> Sure.
20:21:25 <a-k> For a while, I think we're just going to be chewing our way through the list of candidates.
20:21:48 <a-k> I added Java-based engines as viable candidates (on the wiki) until we know they don't work with GCJ or OpenJDK.
20:22:09 <a-k> I added a color-coded table to the wiki page to track our investigations, for easy reading.
20:22:24 <a-k> That's about it for this week, I think.
20:23:15 <mmcgrath> k, thanks for the update.
20:23:20 <mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss?
20:24:04 <mmcgrath> mdomsch: hey.
20:24:06 <mmcgrath> do you want to get
20:24:09 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1791
20:24:10 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1791 (Add MM redirects) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1791
20:24:11 <mmcgrath> as usual?
20:24:16 <mmcgrath> might already be done :)
20:24:36 <mdomsch> must be done; need to drop the redirects on release day
20:24:39 <mdomsch> so leave it open until then
20:24:54 <mmcgrath> coolz.
20:25:03 <mmcgrath> witht hat
20:25:06 <mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor
20:25:09 <mmcgrath> anyone have anything else?
20:25:27 <sijis> i do.. last release i put up links on sixxs for ipv6 downloads
20:25:41 <mmcgrath> sijis: ahh yes, you want to be on that for this release too?
20:25:50 <sijis> would i have to do that this release, or are we pushing hosting the ipv6 ourselves?
20:26:02 <mmcgrath> we're not hosting ipv6 yet I don't think
20:26:07 <mdomsch> sijis, we don't have an ipv6 tracker yet
20:26:09 <mmcgrath> mdomsch: the ipv6 torrenter never got implemented right?
20:26:11 <mmcgrath> yeah
20:26:17 <mdomsch> we're close...
20:26:23 <skvidal> mdomsch: how close?
20:26:47 <skvidal> mdomsch: do you have the  tracker?
20:26:48 <mdomsch> the review submisission on opentracker should be almost there - just waiting on the submitter to take my advice
20:26:54 <mdomsch> one sec
20:27:08 <skvidal> mdomsch: b/c I need to take a look at what (if any) data it writes out for stats
20:27:14 <mdomsch> he did already back out the use of dietlibc, which was causing failures
20:27:30 <skvidal> wow, dietlibc - I thought(hoped) that had died off
20:27:41 <mdomsch> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523540
20:27:42 <buggbot> Bug 523540: medium, medium, ---, dmaphy, ASSIGNED, Review Request: opentracker - BitTorrent Tracker
20:28:03 <mdomsch> nope, libowfat was built against dietlibc, which was unable to bind ipv6 sockets
20:28:11 <mdomsch> now libowfat is built against libc, and was fine
20:28:15 <stickster> mmcgrath: Sorry to double back on old topic -- please feel free to assign the wiki version template changes to me
20:28:49 <sijis> mmcgrath: yeah, ill publish that there on release day
20:28:54 <mmcgrath> stickster: k
20:28:55 <mmcgrath> sijis: thanks
20:28:59 <mmcgrath> anyone have anything else to discuss?
20:29:01 <mmcgrath> If not we'll close in 30
20:29:17 <mdomsch> skvidal, look at http://domsch.com/linux/fedora/opentracker/ for working packages to play with
20:29:21 <skvidal> I found it
20:30:06 <smooge> crap pong
20:30:13 <smooge> went to eat lunch and it ran over
20:30:20 <skvidal> smooge: sounds like a good lunch
20:30:26 <skvidal> mmcgrath: speaking of trackers
20:30:28 <smooge> especially with me forgetting about DST over with
20:30:30 <skvidal> mmcgrath: and torrents
20:30:39 <skvidal> oh nevermind
20:30:47 <skvidal> I'll ask the fcomm folks elsewhere
20:30:48 <mmcgrath> ?
20:30:50 <mmcgrath> 'm kay :)
20:31:03 <mmcgrath> smooge: oh hey, I was wondering if you wanted some tickets for the release?
20:31:10 <mmcgrath> in particular
20:31:15 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1789
20:31:16 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1789 (Verify Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1789
20:31:18 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1790
20:31:19 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1790 (Verify RELENG permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1790
20:31:19 <mmcgrath> and
20:31:23 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1797
20:31:24 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1797 (Add new release to stats gathering script on log1) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1797
20:32:11 <smooge> okie dokie
20:32:51 <mmcgrath> for 1789 Oxf13 says F11 + 10%
20:33:01 <smooge> yeah thats pretty standard
20:33:10 <mmcgrath> Ok, if no one has anything else, we'll close the meeting in 30s
20:33:13 <smooge> I did an estimate of the releases for the beta just in case
20:33:28 <smooge> oh I have something
20:33:42 <smooge> on Available Reports.. I think we need to add in F13 tickets
20:33:56 <smooge> oh wait never mind.. thats next release
20:34:03 <smooge> someone already did the thing I was thinking
20:35:01 <mmcgrath> :)
20:35:02 <mmcgrath> alrighty
20:35:05 <mmcgrath> well with that
20:35:07 <mmcgrath> #endmeeting